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Cat General => General Cat Chat => Topic started by: tryme on February 26, 2009, 19:40:36 PM
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This time its one of his back legs. I can see his bone I think. It looks like he has caught it on something bad. I know it sounds rude but I don't have the money to do an emergency vets trip tonight so will have to take him tomorrow. He's eating and drinking but not walking very well. He's eating lying down.
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I'm very sorry to hear that Felix has been injured, I have to be honest here though and say rude is not really the right word, its cruel to leave him until tomorrow. If it is as bad as it sounds, I expect he is suffering.
If it is your vets that has an out of hours service, call them tonight and ask if he can be seen tonight and you can pay for any costs in installments, many vets will offer this option. And please, if you can't afford emergancy/other vet treatment, get him insured - there is no way I could afford an operation or something if one of my cats needed it, so the first thing I did when I got them was to get them insured so I would always be able to get them treatment asap if the worst happened.
If there really is nothing you can do tonight, at least call the out of hours vet and find out the best way to make him comfortable.
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If you can see the bone it is very serious and he will be suffering so I'm afraid to say get him treated and worry about paying later
Most vets will take small payments and the Welfare of Felix is the priority her - Beans on toast can be nourishing and slimming
GET HIM TO THE VET
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Poor boy :'( please call on a vet and explain and if he keeps getting injured I would be tempted to keep in now :hug: let us know how you get on
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I have to be honest here though and say rude is not really the right word, its cruel to leave him until tomorrow
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i agree, rude is what i'd like to be right now. i'm sickened and disgusted that you could even think of leaving an animal with an exposed bone.
i'm sorry but that is just wrong, irresponsible and cruel.
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I agree with the others get him to a vet now because if you can see the bone and it becomes infected it will cost you a hell of a lot more than leaving him untill the morning.
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they said 250 because of call out fee etc. I HAVENT got the money. so I have no choice im afraid.
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Can I ask what was the purpose in the OP? was it just to worry us all sick about Felix?
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Sorry to say but I would sign him over to a charity to get immediate treatment, he will be in pain and suffering and sorry to say but no vet charges £250 just for a call out even at night
We have 46 animals to care for excluding our outside ferals and I am just back in employment after 6 months and ours have had all their required medical treatment and we have eaten cheap food and made sure they were fed and medicated - We have also lost 3 in that time and all were cremated and brought home
PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF FELIX GET OUT THE YELLOW PAGES AND PHONE AROUND EVERY VET IN YOUR BOOK AND GET HIM THIS TREATMENT
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From a quick review of tryme's posts Liz, I don't think Felix stands any chance of seeing a vet tonight :( . If true, this is so upsetting when a trip to PDSA is so obviously the way to go.
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I am sorry to say -you are going to provoke a lot of anger on here -IF you do not get this cat of yours ( your responsibility for his welfare !) to the vet immedietly !
If you do not i am afraid to say -you shouldn''t have a cat or any other animal if you dont !
How would you feel if someone had cut your leg and the bone was showing - i bet you would be expecting someone to take you to the hospital .
Its downright cruelty not taking him - you can pay in installments or something .
I would sell my soul to pay for my cats if they needed treatment !
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"tryme" where abouts are you ?
Have you rang around like the others have said.
They are all right what they say, if the wound is open then infection will may set in. My bridge baby come home with an open wound on her hind
& the vet said i was lucky i got her there straight away, as it could of got infected and all things would of been worse. He said it was a bite,
but my first thought was that she got it caught somewhere.
She didnt show any signs of pain and just lay down for the vet to look at her.
I feel ill at the thought of Felix being like this.
I am praying that you have managed to get hold of a vet :wish:
There is the PDSA, they have emergency vets there. Ring them?????
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Are we sure the poster is genuine? I just can't see why anyone would put up a thread like this, in general chat - not even asking for advice or help
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they said 250 because of call out fee etc. I HAVENT got the money. so I have no choice im afraid.
If this is genuinly true (and I see no reason to doubt at this stage), then do your poor cat a favour and either get insured, or let someone who can afford medical treatment look after him.
I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but from the injuries you mention, this cat needs to see a vet and NOW, not tomorrow.......
Our cats put their trust in us to make sure they are looked after, medical care should be first and foremost in this.
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i am truly disgusted by this. the thought of this cat being left with a bone exposed makes me feel physically sick. some people just don't deserve to have animals and this is one of them.
i sincerely hope this person never has children.
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Are we sure the poster is genuine? I just can't see why anyone would put up a thread like this, in general chat - not even asking for advice or help
which is why i have asked where they are ........... ? and see what happens from there.
I am sittin here my stomache is turning & i feel sick at the thought of felix lying down, going thru pain !!
YOUR CAT NEEDS A VET f :censored: f :censored: s :censored:
(sorry purrs for the out burst of anger)
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I totally agree. If the poor cat had been insured this wouldn't have been a problem. Don't expect to get any sympathy on here - if people can't look after their animals properly, they shouldn't have them >:(
In fact, you are risking prosecution.
What does the Animal Welfare Act do?
It makes owners and keepers responsible for ensuring that the welfare needs of their animals are met.
These include the need:
For a suitable environment (place to live)
For a suitable diet
To exhibit normal behaviour patterns
To be housed with, or apart from, other animals (if applicable)
To be protected from pain, injury, suffering and disease
The law also increases to 16 the minimum age at which a person can buy an animal and prohibits giving animals as prizes to unaccompanied children under this age.
Anyone who is cruel to an animal, or does not provide for its welfare needs, may be banned from owning animals, fined up to £20,000 and/or sent to prison.
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/act/index.htm
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im lost for words :-:
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everyone knows that i have little money so i sympathise with not having the money but i agree with the rest you should of got pet insurance i admit i dont have it but that is only because i am covered by the rspca and the pdsa
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Tryme, definitely call around. Some vets are more sympathetic than others regarding the cost of treatment.
I'm so sorry Felix is going through all this - he seems to do so regularly though. Do you have any idea how he keeps injuring himself so badly? He is neutered, isn't he?
I can understand peoples anger regarding Felix if his injuries are as severe as they sound. I can also understand your predicament; I don't have a lot of money but I will go without myself if necessary to provide my animals with what they need.
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I have one credit card, I probably won't have it much longer cos I haven't used it since I got it. The reason I got it, £250.00 limit, was so that if either of my cats needed treatment, the initial funds would be there. I would sell anything else I had to to provide care for my kitties, leaving them in pain would not be an option.
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i can't afford pet insurance but i make damn sure that if one of my pets need a vet they get one immediately. i live on benefits of £90 a week and have 13 cats, 2 dogs and 2 teenagers. i would rather stave than see one of my family in pain. i would beg, steal or borrow if i had to. money is not an issue when it comes to the care of my pets.
i agree with Liz, this cat should be signed over to a charity and given the chance of finding somebody who WILL care for him properly.
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dont get me wrong im not saying you HAVE to get insurance but if you dont you have to be willing to pay for the bills but mark is right you are going to be in violation of the 5 freedoms
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Be warned Tryme, if I find out where you live I will make sure someone pays you and your cat a 'social services' visit!
I'm on benefits and use the PDSA who are VERY GOOD...I notice from your previous posts you have mentioned the PDSA?
GO BACK!
I notice you make a lot of posts that take this form Tryme......let me assure you if you are playing silly butters, you will get short shrift.....there is a difference between not knowing something and ignorance, the last group are those who do not want to know or do not learn from a previous experience, ATM you are acting mightly like the last group >:(
However if you are not you MUST do something NOW!
Ahhh why am I wasting my breath...he won't log on for several days now.... :tired:
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Poor Felix :hug:
What vet charges £250 call out fee? I'm a bit puzzled by that. My vets charge about £70 for emergency consultation and I know some (like vets now) will charge more than that, but £250?
When you spoke to the vet did they sound like they would not even consider letting you pay in installments? I know that some vets do and some dont', but tbh, I would take Felix and then worry about paying afterwards. No vet worth their salt would refuse to actually see an injured animal that is there on the doorstep because the owner couldn't afford to pay. Whenever I've taken one of my boys to the emergency vet they don't demand money on the doorstep - they do examine the cat first. I do symathise with your prediament as I am pretty skint at the moment and have no savings, so there are times when I couldn't afford £250. But I would take my boys to the vet if it was needed and then worry about how to pay.
Did you manage to speak to a vet? When I ring my vet out of hours I get through to a call centre. They pass the details on to the vet who then rings me to discuss it and let me know whether a trip to the surgery is needed. That telephone consultation costs nothing so I hope you can at least get some advice on how to care for Felix overnight if you really can't get to the vet.
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I think there is a way that an IP address can be traced, just to the area i think ? im not technical.
I have also read tryme posts......
Its a case of sit, wait & watch for them comin online, and Pray Felix has seen a vet (but how can it be proved if Felix has seen a vet or not.
Im also wondering about the £250 call out etc...... Its not even that for a bloody horse !!!!
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my vet surgery charges £50 for an out of hours call out fee
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sorry but I have read the OP again, and I think we are being conned here
someone is enjoying watching us all get so upset - I cannot see any other reason for this thread
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I'm lost for words and almost in tears about the fact that a so called animal lover can watch a kitty in pain with his bone showing. Just pick up the phone and keep calling until you find someone who will let you pay in installments or give felix to someone who cares. My kitty only has a slight limp and even though vet advised we wait til morning I'm sitting in tears watching him so I honestly don't know how you can stand to watch an animal suffer.
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This all looks odd to me ! i have just read his other posts :Crazy: !!!
He always goes offline after you have told him to go to the vet too - he hasn''t any intention of taking this poor cat to the vet and should have the cats taken off him- seems to not know anything about cats and doesn't listen to any advice - sat here reading and i am :censored: :censored: :censored: angry !
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I googled Tryme's email address and according to the myspace info
19 years old, male student, In London where it is easy to find a vet or an emergency clinic.
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sorry but I have read the OP again, and I think we are being conned here
someone is enjoying watching us all get so upset - I cannot see any other reason for this thread
i sincerely hope you're right
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I googled Tryme's email address and according to the myspace info
19 years old, male student, In London where it is easy to find a vet or an emergency clinic.
good thinking, Mark - a classic candidate for an internet WUM
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I was thinking I was being cynical, but how do we know that Felix even exists? I haven't read previous posts and I have never had an accident prone cat, but as has been suggested maybe this is a wind up?
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I googled Tryme's email address and according to the myspace info
19 years old, male student, In London where it is easy to find a vet or an emergency clinic.
So therefore if this is true, than a student can use the PDSA.
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I really hope that this guy is a wind up merchant then. If he is a student there is no way he can afford to look after all theses animals properly.
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There's no way he could find student digs who would let him
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Ive never noticed a hidden member before on Purrs' ???
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i think itll be a good idea for us to give him till tomorrow to answer at the end day dont hink he will answer tonight no matter how much we post
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I think someone should pay him a visit !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think someone should pay him a visit !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just to see to Felix .... of course :sneaky:
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Of course ;) - if i lived nearer - i would ! - he would not like me when i am angry :rofl:
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because i am covered by the rspca and the pdsa
Covered for life, how so?
I dont have insurance, if anything goes wrong I just have to pay later. I have too many cats to be paying out just incase.
And the pdsa only covers people on housing/ council tax benefits ;)
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im not covered for life just while i am on benefits but as soon as i am off benefits they will be insured
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If a wind up merchant, then I'm very, very glad.
If not, then this is the kiind of person who should be banned from EVER keeping an animal. If true, take him to the vet NOW - worry about paying for it later.
Please God let it be a wind up merchant.
I've had cats and been poor - I went without so they got whatever they needed, and they went to the PDSA if they needed treatment (I was on hardship benefit at the time).
When Vlad got hit by a car, he wasn't insured. We had no idea how we were going to pay, but he was at the vet within half an hour - at night (well, evening).
The others are now insured.
When we first noticed Edward's limp (truly the first sign of his cancer), he was at the vet the next day, and I was in tears all night with worry.
My credit card bill didn't get paid for two months to enable me to pay for the vet to come out and put him to sleep at home, and to take him off to be cremated. I couldn't bear the thought of his last few minutes being scary.
Assuming this is real, take him to the vet NOW, or take him to a shelter so he can be looked after by somebody who's able to. Leaving him in agony till morning is simply inhuman, and intolerable.
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If its a wind up -he wants banning - if not he wants shooting -simple as that
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Perfectly put.
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They have just loggod on "February 27, 2009, 06:56:31 AM"
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just catching up on this, as i was totally :tired: last night.
I cant agree with you all more.
When my felix was ill, and the vet wanted to see him ASAP, his bladder was about to burst...........
a real careing loving owner would think "do what you have to," not "sorry kitty wait till pay day"
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They have just loggod on "February 27, 2009, 06:56:31 AM"
Who has logged on?
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The original poster I assume?
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not since yesterday on his profile :-:
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I've re read Tryme's posts and don't think this is a wind up. Hopefully he has now brought Felix to vet.
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OK, I understand you are all concerned about Felix as am I. But please don't insinuate aggression towards other forum members - that's not what this forum is about, and the fact people don't do that is what makes it special.
Ruth, I personally have had negative experiences with the PDSA and I know other people have too. Not all surgeries or representation are as useful as they claim to be.
Trigger, this person has posted about Felix before. Whether or not this post has been made to make people scared or anxious I don't know, but I don't think we should be tracking him down in the manner we are.
I hope Felix is OK and that Tryme returns soon to update.
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I re-read his posts yesterday night and am also inclined to think that someone who has been a member since 2007 and posted plenty of non antagonistic posts may well be genuine, albeit a very bad pet owner for making their poor cat suffer all night.
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felix has a vets appointment at 11 this morning.
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Glad to hear it. How's the little guy doing today?
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So glad that Felix is going to get some help - have you got any idea what keeps causing his injuries? Is there any way you could keep him as an indoor cat because he seems so accident prone? Good luck at the vets
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I didnt see this thread last night !!
Shame none of you didnt offer any advice while sounding off ah !
Like clean the wound and then cover it to help stop infection
And an emergency vet in London could cost £250....look at the person who was quoted £1000 for an thyroid Op !
Or my Lulu who cost over £300 at an emergency vet and was only given pain relief.
I am not saying that the cat shoudnt have seen a vet last night BUT this person couldnt afford it ....and I know quiet a few people on here who couldnt have got their hands on £250 either!!!
Its not often I am upset my people attitudes on here but i am really disappointed with this thread
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I totally agree with Michelle,
I missed this thread last night but I am also a bit surprised more "assistance / advice" was offered rather than just turning all heated and vigilante >:(
Tryme ... I'm pleased to hear Felix has a vets appointment and I hope it all goes well. Please update us when you get back.
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Felix is having a few stiches and is staying at the vets for a while. Came to £150 all together. The reason it would of been so expensive last night is because thevets was shut so we would of had to get a huge call out fee for one of the vets to come from home and then pay for the treatment etc and after all that he would of still had to go into the vets any way. I don't think the cut was as bad as we first though. He should be ok now which is good news.
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I think alot of people were panicking it is difficult to make suggestions without seeing the injury so just to call the vet and ask for a bit of advise is what some wanted to hear anyway the main thing is that the cat is being seen this morning and hopefully will be ok :hug:
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So pleased the little tinker is going to be OK :hug:
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Felix is having a few stiches and is staying at the vets for a while. Came to £150 all together. The reason it would of been so expensive last night is because thevets was shut so we would of had to get a huge call out fee for one of the vets to come from home and then pay for the treatment etc and after all that he would of still had to go into the vets any way. I don't think the cut was as bad as we first though. He should be ok now which is good news.
Glad he is ok :hug:
It might be aswell to look into insurance, it would probably only cost you about £8 a month and would give you peace of mind.
I dont have insurance as i have 11 cats but i am sure someone on here could suggest a good company
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the first thing we did was call the vets thats how we knew it would of costed so much for the call out fee etc. They said he wasn't in a life threatening situation by the sounds of things so we knew hed be ok til the morning
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I didnt see this thread last night !!
Shame none of you didnt offer any advice while sounding off ah !
Like clean the wound and then cover it to help stop infection
And an emergency vet in London could cost £250....look at the person who was quoted £1000 for an thyroid Op !
Or my Lulu who cost over £300 at an emergency vet and was only given pain relief.
I am not saying that the cat shoudnt have seen a vet last night BUT this person couldnt afford it ....and I know quiet a few people on here who couldnt have got their hands on £250 either!!!
Its not often I am upset my people attitudes on here but i am really disappointed with this thread
Sorry Michelle but when people read that a cat is injured with bone showing and it is not getting emergency treatment, how do you expect them to react?
I agree some advice could have been offered but there was really no other advice in those circumstances than to drop everything and get to a vet - but that's me.
It's exactly the same thing we say about posts on yahoo answers.
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can't give advice to a poster who leaves a worrying post and then logs off
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Glad he is ok and you did eventually get him to the vets but it might be worth trying to make a prior arrangement with your vet in case anything like this happens in the future and you are stuck for funds.
I can understand people getting mad, I can't say I've not had a go in the past but in a situation like this, if the person is adamant they can't get to the vet, no matter what is said on here, it's just not going to happen :tired: I don't know how making threats etc is going to achieve anything, if the owner just happens not to give a :censored: about the animal, by threatening etc, the animal may just end up getting dumped and having no treatment at all and what happens then? Anyone allowing their animal to suffer do want their arses kicking but the main thing is trying to persuade them to help the animal first.......you can say what you want afterwards :sneaky:
I do agree though, in a situation like this or any other emergency, the vet should have been called even if it was just for advice. If someone has animals, they have a duty to that animal for life, and that includes being able to pay for treatment when it's needed.
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the first thing we did was call the vets thats how we knew it would of costed so much for the call out fee etc. They said he wasn't in a life threatening situation by the sounds of things so we knew hed be ok til the morning
We didn't know you had got advice from the vet hun and that they had said he would be ok until the morning you never said and I think that is what scared people. So glad Felix is getting sorted :) though and like I said that's the main thing.
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This time its one of his back legs. I can see his bone I think. It looks like he has caught it on something bad. I know it sounds rude but I don't have the money to do an emergency vets trip tonight so will have to take him tomorrow. He's eating and drinking but not walking very well. He's eating lying down.
I reacted the way I did with the above description and don't feel in any way that I acted wrongly from the above description paramount before finance is the animals welfare not your wallet - like Mark perhaps I am seen as overly protective but I won't see any animal suffer for finance sake
I'm glad felix has had treatment but perhaps you now need to consider him becoming an indoor only cat as finances seem an issue - inside he will cost less unless he is accident prone.
i have both indoor only and indoor/outdoor so speak from experience and cost we have had several delinquents costing well in to 4 figures all treated without hesitation and payment worried about after the event
I would also be looking at finding a better vet who provides a cheaper callout and one with who you can build up a relationship should the cost issue/ can we afford to treat issue ever comes up again.
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Glad that Felix has been seen now.
I would definitely look into insurance from now on, particularly if he is a bit 'accident prone'. For the sake of a few £ a month, it has to be worth that peace of mind....
Do you know what caused his injuries?
Edited to add:
I think perhaps if you had stated in your first post that you have already sought veterinary advice, this would have invoked more helpful responses from peeps here. By simply saying that you couldn't afford treatment but Felix's bone was showing, then of course people are going to worry, and sometimes react adversley.
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Tryme, have you got an update? I'd love to know how Felix is. Also, pictures when the lad's feeling up to posing for the camera.
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I am pleased that this has been a good result in the end for Felix but would really council insurance for him, Its also easier to maske deals with vets when you have insurance ;D
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Firstly, I will apologise for any offence I have caused..... :-[
But I will say that had we known about the fact that vetrinary advice had already been sought then the reactions would have been much more tempered. That is the problem of forums, its not a face to face conversation so meanings and contexts are only based on what is on the page, this causes problems as has so clearly happened here....
Tryme, well done for being responsible and seeing Felix is attended to, however I do still think that there is a problem regarding the fact that Felix is regulary injured while outside on his adventures. Insurance is a must but it will not stop these injuries occuring in the first place.
Have a good look in your area, can you see anything that he could be catching himself on? Barbed wire, rusty metal in a tool shed etc? If it is in your power to get it sorted do so (even if it means getting a neighbour to clear up his mess). Prevention is better than cure, especially as it is affecting lives :(
If you can't do so, then please give consideration to the fact that Felix may have to have his wanderings restricted. Please don't forget that when you take on any animal it looks to you to keep it safe and fed (just like a child would), so many people out there do not do this and it leaves others to pick up the pieces when it all goes so badly wrong (our rescue members on here will atest to that).
Anyway, advice over, please keep us updated on Felix's progress.....we are a good bunch on here.. but we are also only human :-[ :)
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As others have said, I will apologise if anyone felt I was overly harsh, but I felt it a fair reaction the the original post. The only indication we had of Felix's condition was the remark about seeing the bone, which is going to scare any cat lover and provoke these kinds of remarks. I am glad that Felix has now been seen and had treatment but again I would advise for you to either get an insurance, an emergency credit card or pay some money into an account each month that could be used for emergencies like this. I also echo what others have said about Felix's roaming, maybe limiting this or preventing it would be in his own best interests.
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Glad Felix has seen a vet & hope he is better soon.
I also may have been harsh, but like others have pointed out, an animals welfare is important.
And tryme you didnt come back online,
I was ill last nite thinkin of Felix & have thought about him all day at work.
And with you going offline, then what are us all gonna think ???
Especially with thinking Felix has such a bad open wound you could see his bone!
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I think it's best if we all concentrate on waiting for an update about Felix. Hope the vet was able to help, Tryme.
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like I said already the vet was called, he gave us advice and said how much a call out would be etc and as it didn't sound life threatening he would be ok until the morning, which he was.
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Here's a pic of his 3 stiches.
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr291/runtone/Photo-0303.jpg)
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ouch
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ahh poor boy ... glad he is going to be ok :hug:
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Glad Felix is fixed and on the mend :)
Most likely Tryme was going through the head up a**e situation and didnt think of posting that they had actually phoned a vet, we know what its like when were paniced and confused and worried all at the same time, nothing ever comes out the right way.
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Glad he's on the mend. :) They like to make us worry.
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Glad felix is on the mend :Luv:
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glad to see hes ok
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Missed this yesterday - I am gload felix has been treated now. Incidentally when I had to rus Beavis to the emergency vet on a Sunday it was close to £200. And that was just constipation!!!! :Crazy: :Crazy:
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i am glad he has been seen now - and even if Felix had been insured, this might still have happened, as most emergency vets want payment there and then, and I can't see any emergency vet allowing staged payments as you arne't their client, they dont know you are trustworthy. I have two credit cards for situations like this, as I would then have to claim it back from the insurance company (and have used them at weekends with an insured cat),
i actually thought it was obvious they had spoken to a vet, as they quoted a price for him to be seen.
I would recommend keeping him indoor only from now on though.
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i actually thought it was obvious they had spoken to a vet, as they quoted a price for him to be seen.
It was obvious to me and probably others, but Tryme didn't say that it was the vet who had said the cat would be ok to leave until the morning and I think that was the worry. Glad Felix has been sorted now and hope he is kept safe :Luv:
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Felix isn't allowed out for 10 days unless we are watching him and for an hour at most each day. He's already proving to be quite the escape artist lol.
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Felix isn't allowed out for 10 days unless we are watching him and for an hour at most each day. He's already proving to be quite the escape artist lol.
It is so hard to keep them in when they want to go out....You just have to be really careful when opening doors :evillaugh:
Take it you have a litter tray ??
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It is so hard to keep them in when they want to go out....You just have to be really careful when opening doors :evillaugh:
Take it you have a litter tray ??
You'd think....when we first got a certain "naughty torti" we locked the cat flap so the cats we let out could get back in. Our little madam mastered pulling the cat flap towards her with the aid of her claws and the sealing strip, putting her head underneath the now leaning in flap and trotting off out! Jack, when we tried to fully lock the cat flap merely headbutted it until it gave way and wandered off down the garden! :tired: We don't rely on the cat flap lock now if we need to keep them in!
How's Felix this morning, Tryme?
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Tryme.... my cats used to be allowed outside, but sinec moving to an estate i have beeb scared to let them out, due to dogs etc around
in neighbours gardens.
We just had to be very careful when opening the doors. They are used to being indoor cats now (have 4 inc a naughty tortie)
They have plenty toys & scratchin posts & we make fuss & play with them, to keep them occupied.
Persevere, no matter how much he tries to escape. You will be doing it for his own good, and when he settles, he will love you the same for it :Luv: and some :Luv:
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I barracaded the flap once and Sasa crashed thriugh the lot and then disappeared for a week to teach me a lesson!
Yes she is a tortie!
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Felix is doing great but has huge amounts of built up energy. We stil have our other mistress sugar and he always tries to chase her like they did when they was kittens. Only problem is sugar has gone way past that stage lol.