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Title: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 12, 2009, 17:37:05 PM: Just got back from the vets with Riley. About 4 or 5 days ago I noticed loose motions in the litter tray, I had no idea which one of them it was and they were both acting normally - eating, playing, alert etc. It seemed to go away until last night when he had diaorrhea 5 times in a row in the space of half an hour. He is still his normal self, racing round the house, eating well etc. I've not changed their food and he only goes in my garden so no chance of scavenging.

He's had a steroid injection, some Prokolin (aka kitty face paints) and has to eat chicken for a few days. I've just had to hide his biscuits from him too :(
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Maddiesmum on February 12, 2009, 17:58:09 PM: Aww get well soon Riley :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Janeyk on February 12, 2009, 17:59:15 PM: Hope Riley is better soon poor boy :hug:
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Post by: bonnielass on February 12, 2009, 18:00:17 PM: Hope Riley is soon feeling better :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: pappilon on February 12, 2009, 18:00:51 PM: Poor Riley, i hope he feels better soon. :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Christine (Blip) on February 12, 2009, 18:41:22 PM: Did the vet opine what the cause might be, Helen? Hope the little chap is better soon, anyway :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Gillian Harvey on February 12, 2009, 18:51:47 PM: Hope he's ok soon :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Den on February 12, 2009, 18:58:43 PM: Oh no, poor baby.

Get better soon Riley!
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 12, 2009, 19:17:35 PM: :thanks: for all the well wishes :hug:

I've just cooked Riley his chicken, I was planning for them both to have chicken so had bought them a breast each on the way home. I then went to get some out of the freezer for tomorrow and realised they were out of date - BB Nov 08 so I gave Lu normal food and Riley chicken. Riley wanted Bozita and was trying to squeeze under the 1/2 an inch gap under the kitchen door to get to Lu on the other side who had Bozita, Lu didn't want his Bozita and I suspect he will finish Riley's chicken :doh:

Quote from: Christine (Blip) on February 12, 2009, 18:41:22 PM
Did the vet opine what the cause might be, Helen? Hope the little chap is better soon, anyway :hug:

Nope, he said he has no idea what may have caused it as he has not been scavenging or changed his food and they were wormed 1st Jan but that the main thing was that he couldn't feel anything abnormal ie lumps, which is of course a good thing.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: swampmaxmum on February 12, 2009, 19:23:34 PM: poor wee lad. Hope he is feeling much better soon and his tum's just fine :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Kirst on February 12, 2009, 19:28:16 PM: Poor Riley!

I hope his tum gets better soon. :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls on February 12, 2009, 19:34:48 PM: Hope Riley gets better soon :)
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: alisonandarchie on February 12, 2009, 20:03:48 PM: Poor Riley hope he gets better very soon :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 12, 2009, 20:39:57 PM: get well soon riley :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: psychopunk on February 12, 2009, 22:35:23 PM: :get well 3: Riley!!
My 7 month old kitten Pips has the same problem - loose poops for last 4 days. No change of food, wormed, doesn't go out. But before going to vets I want to try the boiled chicken diet for 2 days. I'm a vegetarian myself and have no idea about cooking meats. For how long do I how to boil the chicken? And what do you think could be the cause of these loose stools?
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Gillian Harvey on February 13, 2009, 00:01:31 AM: Quote from: psychopunk on February 12, 2009, 22:35:23 PM
I'm a vegetarian myself and have no idea about cooking meats. For how long do I how to boil the chicken? And what do you think could be the cause of these loose stools?

I wouldnt boil it. I'd just bake it in the oven, depending on what cut you use, but around 30 mins for a chicken breast. Many reasons for loose stools, often just straigtforward tummy bug. But I would recommend a vet visit because kittens can quickly get dehydrated with ongoing diarrhea.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: MrsR on February 13, 2009, 07:26:35 AM: How is Riley this morning?
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Maddiesmum on February 13, 2009, 07:37:36 AM: Hope Riley is ok :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: sheryl on February 13, 2009, 09:51:10 AM: Awwww get better soon Riley :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: clarenmax on February 13, 2009, 10:11:34 AM: Awww poor Riley, hope he's feeling much better soon :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Millys Mum on February 13, 2009, 11:21:01 AM: The chicken would be ok to use ;D it wont go off as such in the freezer but could get freezer burn, but cats dont mind if the texture isnt perfect.
I hope Rileys better soon :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Mark on February 13, 2009, 11:28:50 AM: I hope Riley is making logs by now :Luv2:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: psychopunk on February 13, 2009, 14:02:20 PM: Quote from: Gillian (Ambercat) on February 13, 2009, 00:01:31 AM

I wouldnt boil it. I'd just bake it in the oven, depending on what cut you use, but around 30 mins for a chicken breast. Many reasons for loose stools, often just straigtforward tummy bug. But I would recommend a vet visit because kittens can quickly get dehydrated with ongoing diarrhea.

Thanks Gillian! I prepared the chicken this morning and Pipsqueak loved it. He doesn't have a very bad diarrhoea, just loose stools twice a day. If it doesn't get better or gets any worse I'll take him to the vets.

And how is Riley today??
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 13, 2009, 20:00:56 PM: Quote from: Mark on February 13, 2009, 11:28:50 AM
I hope Riley is making logs by now :Luv2:

:rofl:

No logs as yet but no instant whips either :evillaugh: It's been a nightmare trying to get them to eat separately - they're not happy to be apart at all and wait either side of the door for each other, ignoring the food they've been given :innocent:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Yvonne on February 13, 2009, 21:27:38 PM: Glad to hear that the boys are ok. Hope Riley's tummy settles down very soon.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: 2d on February 13, 2009, 23:13:36 PM: If chicken's been in the freezer and has gone off, you can tell as soon as it's defrosted, cos it stinks to high heaven!

psychopunk , I had the same problem - stick a skewer or similar in it at the deepest / widest part - if it's cooked any liquid that comes out will be clear. Or you can cut it through the widest part.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Tan on February 14, 2009, 11:54:05 AM: HI Hun

How is he today? Hope his tum is better. Give him and Lu a cuggle from me :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 15, 2009, 16:34:55 PM: Am pleased to report that Riley seems much better now, he's like to thank everyone for their concern :)

Quote from: 2d on February 13, 2009, 23:13:36 PM
If chicken's been in the freezer and has gone off, you can tell as soon as it's defrosted, cos it stinks to high heaven!

The only problem there is that I have lost my sense of smell completely due to a medical condition so unless it's green and hairy I have no idea if anything is off :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 15, 2009, 16:38:08 PM: I couldnt smell things for years and its better to chuck stuff than eat something bad.....I also couldnt taste.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 15, 2009, 16:40:20 PM: Me too, I had an op in September which worked for a few months but I've had no sense of smell now for around 6 weeks. Have a Hospital appt on Thursday but I think they'll only confirm what I already know :(
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Christine (Blip) on February 15, 2009, 16:43:43 PM: I'm glad Riley's better but I'm very sorry to hear that you've lost your sense of smell, Helen :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 15, 2009, 17:57:05 PM: Spoke to soon :scared: Just been upstairs and found a very runny poo in one of the trays :(
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 15, 2009, 18:55:03 PM: Oh dear but good job you cant smell!

Hope his tummy settles :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: psychopunk on February 15, 2009, 20:03:12 PM: Quote from: Tiggy's Mum - Helen on February 15, 2009, 17:57:05 PM
Spoke to soon :scared: Just been upstairs and found a very runny poo in one of the trays :(

The same here, while on the chicken diet it was ok, but today Pipsqueak did a runny poo again. That means vet visit next week! I really hoped I wouldn't have to stress him out by it, but his health comes first.

Tiggy's mum Helen you wrote that you took Riley to the vets and he's had a steroid injection and Prokolin. What does it mean? Was it to treat diaorrhea or something else as well?
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 15, 2009, 20:17:41 PM: Poor Pipsqueak :hug:

Quote from: psychopunk on February 15, 2009, 20:03:12 PM
you wrote that you took Riley to the vets and he's had a steroid injection and Prokolin. What does it mean? Was it to treat diaorrhea or something else as well?

They were both to help the diaorrhea, the steroid injection was to calm any inflammation in his gut and the Prokolin paste is a pro-biotic and helps bulk the stools - apparently :shy:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Baggy on February 15, 2009, 21:41:09 PM: Poor little runny Riley-bum. Hope this clears up soon :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Rosella moggy on February 15, 2009, 21:49:24 PM: So sorry I missed this Helen. Big hugs to Mr Riley boy and hope he is back to normal very soon
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Kittybabe (Ruth) on February 15, 2009, 22:04:35 PM: Bless his little heart :hug: Hope his tum sorts out sooner rather than later.

:hug: to you to, R x
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on February 15, 2009, 23:04:43 PM: Get well soon Riley xxx :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Bazsmum on February 16, 2009, 01:46:49 AM: Sending healing vibes to gorgeous Riley's tum~~~~~~~ :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 16, 2009, 07:28:08 AM: Quote from: Bazsmum on February 16, 2009, 01:46:49 AM
Sending healing vibes to gorgeous Riley's tum~~~~~~~ :hug:

Adding to those from me and Paddy :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley
Post by: clarenmax on February 16, 2009, 08:57:22 AM: Awww, get well soon RIley hun, lets get rid of that poorly tum :Luv2:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 16, 2009, 10:20:24 AM: Have just got back from the vets with both boys :( Last night Riley pooed (liquid poo) in his bed and then in his tent, Lu was sick twice and although I didn't see him do it he had diaorrhea on his leg fur. I thought for a minute he'd gone in the litter tray and got some of Riley's poo on him but when I looked closer you could see it was round his bumhole too.

They had a thorough examination and the vet said if I hadn't told him about the diaorrhea he would have declared them 100% fit and healthy. They're both still their normal selves and were both purring for cuddles this morning. They've been given 5 days of antibiotics (metronidazole) and if that doesn't work then it's poo samples all round! The vet did suggest doing fecal samples first but that would mean the AB's would have to be delayed by 3 days and I want them to get better sooner rather than later. He said Pro-Kolin wouldn't be useful as they are having AB's at the same time and that there's no need to feed chicken as they are used to Bozita and have never had any issues.

I just feel so sorry for them, It's their Birthday on Thursday too :(
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Dawn F on February 16, 2009, 10:34:26 AM: bless them :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: clarenmax on February 16, 2009, 10:36:27 AM: Awwww, poor boys :hug: :Luv2:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: sheryl on February 16, 2009, 10:46:33 AM: Oh no - get better soon beautiful boys :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 16, 2009, 10:49:54 AM: Just gave them their tablets - what a palava! They both refused it in a defurr-um and then Dairylea so it must be pretty nasty tasting stuff. I had to resort to giving them it the hard way. Lu (who I thought would be the most difficult) was a dream and I evened opened his mouth again to check he'd swallowed as it seemed to easy. Riley was another matter, he struggled and kicked and although the tablet went in 3 times it came out 3 times. He was foaming at the mouth poor thing :( I then tried a defurr-um again but this time sealed it up with the discarded half of the treat. He still refused it but was happily eating his Felix stick treat so I rubbed a felix treat over the defurr-um treat and he fell for it!
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on February 16, 2009, 11:08:04 AM: Ahhhhh poor babies give them a hug from me and hope they both feel better soon xxxx :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Janeyk on February 16, 2009, 11:12:27 AM: :hug: awww, poor little kitties, hope the meds work and wishing them well soon xx
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: ChrisB on February 16, 2009, 15:56:25 PM: Do hope the boys are soon feeling better and good luck with the tablets, it can be so difficult.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 16, 2009, 16:32:38 PM: Poor boys and hope the abs work and quickly :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Kirst on February 16, 2009, 16:37:25 PM: Poor boys!! It wasn't so long ago my lot had a tummy bug but they all picked up quite quickly - I am sure Lukey an Riley will too. :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: pappilon on February 16, 2009, 17:13:42 PM: Oh poor boys, sending get well wishes to Riley & Lukey :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: bonnielass on February 16, 2009, 17:23:58 PM: Sending lots of healing vibes for poor Riley and Lukey :Luv: hope they soon feel better :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Team Svartalfheims on February 16, 2009, 18:16:55 PM: Myself and the Team are sending the boys lots and lots of get well soon hugs xxxx
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on February 16, 2009, 18:32:44 PM: Awww poor boys and poor you! Hope they're back to normal soon :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Millys Mum on February 16, 2009, 19:24:05 PM: Metronidazole are bitter, i put marmite round them before pilling to help seal the nasty in or broke into an empty capsule, aslong as they dont taste them they wont foam up ;D
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 16, 2009, 19:35:17 PM: :thanks: for all their well wishes, I know their problems aren't as serious as other cats on Purrs are going through right now but it doesn't stop me worrying about them :shy:

MM, is Metronidazole a good antibiotic? The bottle says 200mg but the vet has broken them into quarters so each dose is 50mg, they're on it twice daily for five days - does that sound about right?

Quote from: Millys Mum on February 16, 2009, 19:24:05 PM
Metronidazole are bitter, i put marmite round them before pilling to help seal the nasty in or broke into an empty capsule, aslong as they dont taste them they wont foam up ;D

Lu's slipped down without touching the sides (a fluke I think!) so no frothing whatsoever but Riley was literally drooling and that's just from it being in his mouth. I've just been shopping and bought a few new 'weapons' - King Prawns for Riley (Lu hates them), Bernard Matthews wafer thin turkey ham for Lu and also Mark just posted on another thread about Webbox treats being chewy so I've bought a few flavours to try. They tried them once before and weren't interested but I can't remember what flavour that was so have bought a couple of different ones to try.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Janeyk on February 16, 2009, 19:40:23 PM: Quote from: Tiggy's Mum - Helen on February 16, 2009, 19:35:17 PM
:thanks: for all their well wishes, I know their problems aren't as serious as other cats on Purrs are going through right now but it doesn't stop me worrying about them :shy:

MM, is Metronidazole a good antibiotic? The bottle says 200mg but the vet has broken them into quarters so each dose is 50mg, they're on it twice daily for five days - does that sound about right?

Quote from: Millys Mum on February 16, 2009, 19:24:05 PM
Metronidazole are bitter, i put marmite round them before pilling to help seal the nasty in or broke into an empty capsule, aslong as they dont taste them they wont foam up ;D

Lu's slipped down without touching the sides (a fluke I think!) so no frothing whatsoever but Riley was literally drooling and that's just from it being in his mouth. I've just been shopping and bought a few new 'weapons' - King Prawns for Riley (Lu hates them), Bernard Matthews wafer thin turkey ham for Lu and also Mark just posted on another thread about Webbox treats being chewy so I've bought a few flavours to try. They tried them once before and weren't interested but I can't remember what flavour that was so have bought a couple of different ones to try.

When our Smokey had to take tablets I used to break a king prawn in half and stuff half a tablet in each, he loved prawns so they went down a treat, hope they are better soon :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on February 16, 2009, 19:46:01 PM: Don't know whether its still available but I found Sutherlands potted beef brilliant when I had to give Tiny regular medication for his thyroid. Its sticky enough to hold a tablet and tasty enough (to cats - although it is human food) for them to wolf it down
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Baggy on February 16, 2009, 19:47:34 PM: Oh no, poor boys. Tableting one cat is bad enough, hope they fall for the treats...
Our vet also suggested a smear of butter or Marmite on the broken edge of tablets to stop the foaming.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Millys Mum on February 16, 2009, 19:48:58 PM: Its good for alot of bacteria and i think it has anti inflammatory action in the bowel too so another plus. It treats giardia too which is a common cause of tummy upset.
I think thats the same dose my lot had when i had a case of dicky tummy jumping between them, they used to bring neighbours garbage home so i do wonder what they ate and i didnt see :sick:
It works quickly unless that was coincidence and they had nothing :innocent: they would have been stalked for samples had it continued lol
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 16, 2009, 20:48:40 PM: Riley 0 - Webbox treats 1 Think I'll have the King Prawns for myself :evillaugh:

Lukey 1 - Webbox treats 0

Lukey 1 - Wafer thin turkey ham 0

Lukey 1 - Chicken breast 0

Lukey 1 - Butter 0

Lukey 1 - Dairylea 0

Lukey 1 - Defurr-um treats 0

Lukey 0 - Brute force 1
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Liz on February 16, 2009, 20:50:02 PM: Nice to see who's in charge Helen! :naughty:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 16, 2009, 20:52:27 PM: Oh dear, Lukey being difficult :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 17, 2009, 07:00:18 AM: Quote from: Liz on February 16, 2009, 20:50:02 PM
Nice to see who's in charge Helen! :naughty:

Was just thinking the same meself, but sending every good wish for the boys this morning. :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Topsy Turvey on February 17, 2009, 07:26:49 AM: Poor little lads. Hope they get better very soon x
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: clarenmax on February 17, 2009, 08:58:02 AM: Hope the boys are feeling much better today :Luv2:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 18, 2009, 09:29:59 AM: Am pleased to report a fine specimen of a poo was removed from the litter tray this morning, just need a number two (in more ways that one!) and then I'll be happy :)
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 18, 2009, 17:29:52 PM: Good Luck :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: psychopunk on February 18, 2009, 22:53:32 PM: ;D Say hello to your two handsome kitties!! How one small poop can make us very happy... :)
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 18, 2009, 22:56:56 PM: How's Pipsqueak now PP?
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... & now Poorly Lukey too
Post by: psychopunk on February 20, 2009, 20:17:14 PM: Thanks for asking! All of sudden he's back to normal :wow: and just when I was gonna take him to the vets... Anyway happy baleted birthday to your beautiful boys!! :Party 3:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 27, 2009, 10:01:01 AM: Riley's poorly again :( Have had perfect poos since the antibiotics 10 days ago but last night he had diaorrhea again twice. The vet said about stool samples if the AB's didn't work so will have to pick up the poo shovelling kit later :sick:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Janeyk on February 27, 2009, 11:06:29 AM: poor boy, fingers crossed they can sort things out xx
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on February 27, 2009, 11:19:48 AM: Oh no pooor Riley :hug:

And good luck with the collection of pooh...been there and done that :sick: Just try and think of something else while you do it :evillaugh:

xxx
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: sheryl on February 27, 2009, 11:21:55 AM: Oh no - poor Riley - get better soon handsome :hug:

Is there something in the garden Helen that he could be getting at which could be upsetting his Tum?
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: clarenmax on February 27, 2009, 12:08:16 PM: Awww, poor Riley with his poorly tum again - get well soon little one :Luv2:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Millys Mum on February 27, 2009, 12:37:15 PM: Ooo what a lovely job, its hard to scoop mucus :sick: :rofl:
A 3 day sample is best as not everything is shed every time ;) store in the fridge between collections, i had to secretly wrap up so my family didnt know there was poo in there :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 27, 2009, 13:56:21 PM: Quote from: sheryl on February 27, 2009, 11:21:55 AM
Is there something in the garden Helen that he could be getting at which could be upsetting his Tum?

Not that I can think of, hardly any plants and no standing water.

Has anyone else had problems with diaorrhea that responded to antibiotics then came back? Purrs is a mine of information but I sometimes think too much knowledge is a bad thing and now I'm worrying about more sinister things :scared:

Am really not sure I can put it in the fridge MM :sick: The garage is pretty cold so I'll ask if that's OK instead - especially as I'm on steroids so I've got my smell back that's the last thing I want to smell when I open the fridge :sick:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: bunglycat on February 27, 2009, 14:04:04 PM: Winston got it a month ago had a injection and had antibiotics and it didnt clear up- had to take him back and he had another injection and more antibioticcs and when he finished them i gave him some Lacto b for a couple of weeks after and touch wood he is fine again.
No idea how he got it either ?!
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 27, 2009, 14:06:55 PM: Thanks Gill, do you know what the injection was? Riley had a steroid jab and pro-kolin (probiotic) paste on the first visit. Then on the 2nd visit he had 5 days of antibiotics. Did the vet give Winston different antibiotics or just another course of the same ones?
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: sheryl on February 27, 2009, 14:36:21 PM: Has he been wormed lately Helen - it could be parasites :sick: in his little Tum?

When Raffiki and Mellika had a jab for the runs it was an anti inflamatory - the AB tablets made them worse but Lacto B helped.

Love and huggles for Riley :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 27, 2009, 14:41:01 PM: Yep, they were wormed 1st Feb with Drontal and besides they've never caught anything other than a drinking straw! I don't know if the vet is jumping the gun a bit with stool samples rather than trying stuff like Lacto-B - I'm not overly fussed about finding out exactly what is wrong with him I just want him to feel better :(
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 27, 2009, 15:41:13 PM: I think he is just taking precautions and they often come back negative,

Franta has a bit of a dodgy tum for last 3 days or so but reckon its one of the foods or just too many biscuits.

I hope that Riley gets better soon :hug:..............have you fed him any new types of food at all?
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: bunglycat on February 27, 2009, 16:13:41 PM: Yes, he kept with the came antibiotic -but it seemed to takes ages to get better - i am sure the Lacto B helped as much .
Will have a look at what antibiotics it was as cant remember at the moment.
I am going to the vets later for some flea stuff, a worming tablet and poor old Smarties asthma has started up again and he hasn''t had it for almost 2 years -so got to get his tablets too.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Janeyk on February 27, 2009, 18:44:00 PM: Quote from: Tiggy's Mum - Helen on February 27, 2009, 13:56:21 PM
Quote from: sheryl on February 27, 2009, 11:21:55 AM
Is there something in the garden Helen that he could be getting at which could be upsetting his Tum?

Not that I can think of, hardly any plants and no standing water.

Has anyone else had problems with diaorrhea that responded to antibiotics then came back? Purrs is a mine of information but I sometimes think too much knowledge is a bad thing and now I'm worrying about more sinister things :scared:

Am really not sure I can put it in the fridge MM :sick: The garage is pretty cold so I'll ask if that's OK instead - especially as I'm on steroids so I've got my smell back that's the last thing I want to smell when I open the fridge :sick:

I haven't but adopted 2 cats who, we were told had sensitive tums (1 more than the other) and unless they ate Purina One had diarrohea, oddly enough they were fine if they ate that Timmy especially, anything other than that went straight through him.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: swampmaxmum on February 27, 2009, 21:02:05 PM: sorry to hear about Riley (and you: sounds nasty :hug:). Have you tried Diarsynal (sp?) paste for the diarrhoea? It worked very well on Max once. Maybe if it did respond to a.bs, the course just wasn't quite long enough. Hope his tum is better asap poor boy.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 27, 2009, 22:34:02 PM: Purina One is what Franta gobbled LOL
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Baggy on February 28, 2009, 01:02:00 AM: Oh no, poor Riley. Can't offer anything helpful, but give him a tickle for me :hug:.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Mark on February 28, 2009, 09:39:05 AM: Hope he has firmed up a bit today :hug:

One of the problems with constant loose poos is anal glands can get bunged up as well. Alice had this problem.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 28, 2009, 16:50:10 PM: Quote from: Mark on February 28, 2009, 09:39:05 AM
Hope he has firmed up a bit today :hug:

I don't get it :shify:

The worst of the diaorrhea was in the early hours of 17th Feb, they went to the vets 9am that morning and were given 5 days of antibiotics. All future deposits were firm so problem solved so I thought. Thursday 26th PM I cleaned the tray and found two perfect specimens so I know all was well until then but then Riley then had diarorrhea twice just a few hours later in the early hours of Friday 27th, I picked up the sample pot and have had no deposits from either of them since, loose or otherwise!
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Christine (Blip) on February 28, 2009, 17:06:09 PM: Has anything changed in their environment?
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on February 28, 2009, 17:16:45 PM: Quote from: Christine (Blip) on February 28, 2009, 17:06:09 PM
Has anything changed in their environment?

Nope, same food, same litter - no stress, both still happy, playful and affectionate, It's a mystery...
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Janeyk on February 28, 2009, 17:48:54 PM: Just typical isn't it :-: well at least you have the pots if need be, hope it was just a blip Helen
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: alisonandarchie on February 28, 2009, 17:50:03 PM: Hope it clears up Helen :hug:

Archie had stomach upset after stomach upset but thankfully it settled
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Millys Mum on February 28, 2009, 19:40:21 PM: Theres germs in soil so it could be a garden bug, hope you get a delivery soon
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Bazsmum on March 01, 2009, 00:09:00 AM: Hope the boys are feeling better soon..... :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 01, 2009, 17:32:48 PM: Came home today to two deposits... both completely normal :wow: Fingers crossed they stay that way ;D

Quote from: janeyk on February 28, 2009, 17:48:54 PM
hope it was just a blip Helen

I don't think it's very fair to blame it on Blip, she's never even met the boys :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Christine (Blip) on March 01, 2009, 17:38:35 PM: Quote from: Tiggy's Mum - Helen on March 01, 2009, 17:32:48 PM
Came home today to two deposits... both completely normal :wow: Fingers crossed they stay that way ;D

Quote from: janeyk on February 28, 2009, 17:48:54 PM
hope it was just a blip Helen

I don't think it's very fair to blame it on Blip, she's never even met the boys :evillaugh:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Good news, Helen ;D
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Janeyk on March 01, 2009, 17:40:12 PM: Quote from: Tiggy's Mum - Helen on March 01, 2009, 17:32:48 PM
Came home today to two deposits... both completely normal :wow: Fingers crossed they stay that way ;D

Quote from: janeyk on February 28, 2009, 17:48:54 PM
hope it was just a blip Helen

I don't think it's very fair to blame it on Blip, she's never even met the boys :evillaugh:

Yey ;D good news, blip it was ;) I was waiting for that :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: clarenmax on March 01, 2009, 17:48:24 PM: Good news ;D
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 05, 2009, 16:48:44 PM: It's back :( He was OK for 10 days after the antibiotic then he had diaorrhea again, I collected a poo pot the next morning (6days ago) and since then he's been absolutely fine, I even rang th evets yesterday to say there would be no need for a test. Last night there were two 'good' poos at the same time so I knew that they were both fine and then this afternoon poor Riley has had diaorrhea twice :( I've collected a sample from today and will have to get 3 days worth before it can be tested.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on March 05, 2009, 16:55:31 PM: Poor Riley and poor you :rofl: I hope you get sorted soon.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Janeyk on March 05, 2009, 18:10:39 PM: oh dear, can you not pinpoint it to anything he has eaten recently? hope the sample can find out what is going on :hug: I would just keep taking the samples Helen even if he is ok you have 1 bad one.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 05, 2009, 19:20:01 PM: How many lots of abs has he had now cos it could be them!

I have just given Franta his first dose of Lacto B and am keeping fingers crossed.

:hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 05, 2009, 19:42:31 PM: Quote from: janeyk on March 05, 2009, 18:10:39 PM
oh dear, can you not pinpoint it to anything he has eaten recently? hope the sample can find out what is going on :hug: I would just keep taking the samples Helen even if he is ok you have 1 bad one.

Nope, there have been no changes in food. The only thing that might have started him off again is that they finished a bag of dry (chicken flavour) so I started a new bag of salmon flavour yesterday. It's the same food they've been eating since they were a few months old though so not likely to have caused it I wouldn't have thought?

He's only had one 5 day course of anti-B's Gill - it cleared it up for 10 days, then one day of diaorrhea, then 6 good days now another bout :tired: I don't want to try Lacto-B just yet as need to get 3 days of unadultered stool samples first and wait for the results.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Millys Mum on March 05, 2009, 19:53:34 PM: Sorry you didnt get away with not scooping :evillaugh: sometimes bugs can be present and not cause diarrhoea and others suffer so i think a test is best even if hes normal again before the end of it!
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 05, 2009, 20:07:48 PM: I'm definitely having the test done now, I didn't scoop semi solid faeces into a tube for nothing :evillaugh: I saw Lu going in a clean tray after the diaorrhea episode and his poos were perfectly normal so at least I know that it's definitely Riley.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 05, 2009, 20:40:32 PM: Its miserable isnt it cos Franta is worse at moment and Susanne has just posted it sometimes get worse before getting betterr and the Lacto B can take 3 days to work......was hoping for a quicker miricle.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 09, 2009, 18:26:51 PM: 3 days of semi solid faeces have been squashed into a bottle and taken to the vets :sick:

About 4 or 5 days after I collected the bottle he still hadn't had diarrhoea again so I rang the vets to let them know he didn't need a sample testing. When it came back I rang again saying that I was going to start the collection after all but they obviously hadn't written this on his notes. I dropped the bottle off at the crack of dawn this morning and it wasn't til late this afternoon that they rang to say did I want it testing as there was a note on his files saying I wasn't going to have it done. I can't think of any other reason for dissecting semi solid lumps of diaorrhea and cramming them in the same bottle before taking it to the vets can you? :innocent:

Have been keeping a poo diary too, I'm glad I started this thread now as I can go back to see what happened when. It's really sporadic and there doesn't seem to be any logic to it :doh: A couple of times in the last few days I've seen Lu coming out of a tray and on cleaning it was empty apart from one normal poo so I know he is definitely still OK which is one good thing.

February

11th – 4/5 days ago soft motions (not diarrhoea) but not known which cat. Late PM Riley had diarrhoea x 5 in tray. Still happy, alert, playful, eating etc

12th – Riley to vets – Steroid jab & pro-kolin

13th – OK

14th – OK

15th – Late PM Riley diarrhoea x 4 in bed, tent and tray - Lu sick then diarrhoea x 1 in tray

16th – Both cats to vets – Metronidazole for 5 days

17th – OK

18th – OK

19th – OK

20th – OK

21st – OK

22nd – OK

23rd – OK

24th – OK

25th – OK

26th – All fine two normal poos in tray AM. When got home PM diarrhoea x 2 in tray

27th- Collected sample bottle

28th – OK

1st – OK

2nd – OK

3rd – OK

4th – OK

5th – Riley diarrhoea x 3 in tray- sample taken

6th – Diarrhoea in tray - sample taken

7th – Diarrhoea in tray - Lu definitely OK - sample taken

8th – Diarrhoea in tray AM, Soft motion in tray PM – Lu definitely OK - sample taken

9th – Sample to vets
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Christine (Blip) on March 09, 2009, 18:40:02 PM: Is there nothing at all that links Riley's diarrhoea days? Even some external factor not to do with food?
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Janeyk on March 09, 2009, 18:42:45 PM: Sometimes it can still be a mystery if things are affecting a few hours or days after, best of luck with this xx
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 09, 2009, 18:52:10 PM: Nope, nothing. The garden is catproofed so no other cats could have passed anything on, there's no standing water or nasty plants - it really is a mystery :shify: Apart from having poo-ey feet on occasion (why do they have to tread in it?!) Riley is his normal self. The lady I spoke with this afternoon said to ring on Friday but the results might not be back as I think the last post was probably missed today as I didn't return her call til gone 5. She asked if I wanted her to price it up, I said I was insured but out of interest how much was it - £52 which is much better than expected.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 09, 2009, 18:55:21 PM: I think maybe a time on lacto b may be worth trying, it takes a while if they are very bad like Franta was but we are nearly there now.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 09, 2009, 19:08:52 PM: I need to see what the results of the test are before self-treating it but if it comes back negative for anything that needs to be treated with anti-B's then I'm going to ask about probiotics.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 09, 2009, 19:12:43 PM: Think thats a good idea Helen cos lacto B will not do any harm, but could clear up a problem if the right bacteria have gone downhill for any reason.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 09, 2009, 19:15:49 PM: Poo flash Poo flash Poo flash Poo flash Poo flash Poo flash

Litter tray cleaned out earlier this afternoon, one normal-ish looking poo extracted (presumed whis was Lu's). Have just heard scraping so waited with scoop in hand to see Lu pop out of a previously empty litter tray and on scooping discovered.... a poo! So.... was the 'normal-ish' poo from earlier on indeed Riley's? :shify: Is he trying to make me out to have a severe case of hypochondria? :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 09, 2009, 19:16:46 PM: Oh Helen :rofl:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 10, 2009, 07:45:42 AM: OK I think I'm being had here :shify: Bearing in mind that Lu was witnessed leaving a normal deposit at 19:15... another perfectly normal poo was discovered at 07:00, less than 12 hours later and too early to be a second one of Lu's surely?! I think Riley is taking the mick out of me :innocent:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: swampmaxmum on March 10, 2009, 12:52:21 PM: On loo watch with Lu, (sorry!), poor boy and poor you. May all his deposits be normal. I think sometimes it's just a mystery but hope his tests come back normal :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Kirst on March 11, 2009, 09:52:31 AM: Oh dear Helen!! Have you considered CCTV?? :evillaugh: ;)
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: clarenmax on March 11, 2009, 10:25:18 AM: I was gonna suggest, you need to set up the webcams again but on the trays this time, to see who is doing what :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Janeyk on March 11, 2009, 10:35:53 AM: Blimey what a tangled web :shify: good luck sorting this out Helen
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Rosella moggy on March 11, 2009, 12:00:33 PM: Cure for hypochondria (if that's what it is :shify: )...... get another 4 cats Helen. I got not time to worry about their health anymore. Do nothing but scoop poo and no idea whose is whose :rofl:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Liz on March 11, 2009, 14:01:39 PM: Get another 41 and try and figure out who isn't solid!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shocked:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Rosella moggy on March 14, 2009, 10:45:17 AM: How are they doing Helen? Is everything OK now?
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 14, 2009, 16:20:53 PM: Well the last runny poo sample was collected on Sunday before taking it to the vets on Monday... Since then there has been nothing but completely normal poos in the tray :innocent: Rang the vets yesterday but the results weren't back so will have to ring on Monday but the main thing is that Riley runny bottom doesn't have a runny bottom any more :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Rosella moggy on March 14, 2009, 21:22:15 PM: Long may the absence of runny bottoms continue :)
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Christine (Blip) on March 15, 2009, 12:37:16 PM: 'Just one of those things', maybe :hug:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again
Post by: Janeyk on March 15, 2009, 23:22:00 PM: good luck for tomorrow xx
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 16, 2009, 16:10:52 PM: Hmmn, just had the results back...

The test for worm eggs and protozoa (parasites) has come back negative, as has the test for salmonella. The test for camplobacteria (sp?) takes longer to culture so won't find that out til Thursday but the vet was suggesting he might have a food allergy.

I'm finding that really hard to believe as they have eaten the same food (with no problems whatsoever) for 18 months and also the fact that in the middle of Riley's diarrhoea Lu had diarrhoea too which surely suggests some sort of infection? He said that food allergies can develop at any time and that the fact they've been fine for 18 months means nothing :-: He was saying that I should think about changing his food (even though he's been fine for over a week now) but as I said to him they're on pretty much the best food for dodgy tummies now - no grain, high quality etc. I'll obviously wait til Thursday to see about the camplobacteria (sp?) but to say I'm not a believer is an understatement!
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Team Svartalfheims on March 16, 2009, 16:15:28 PM: You could always get the allergy tests done even if just to rule it out as the insurance will cover it. It's just a blood sample that gets sent off to York and you get results back in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 16, 2009, 16:18:56 PM: Do you know how that works then Lottie? With human allergies don't they have to be exposed to the allergen via a skin prick test?
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Team Svartalfheims on March 16, 2009, 16:26:28 PM: No it's just a blood sample. Costs about £450 to have the full panel of environmental and food allergies done but Axa will cover it (as Halifax are underwritten by Axa and they covered it) http://www.animal-allergy.com/html/pet-owners/

You get a full report back of everything they tested for allergies and intolerances to (IgE scores indicate a true food allergy and IgG scores indicate an intolerance) and a score of between 0 and 5 to how allergic/intolerant to the substance.

The full allergy panel tests for all sorts of tree, shrub, weeds and grass pollens, human dander, dust mites, storage mites, moulds, fleas and various meats, fishes and other food stuffs like milk, wheat, soybean, corn etc
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 16, 2009, 16:31:01 PM: :thanks: Lottie, have you had one of yours tested then?
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Den on March 16, 2009, 16:37:44 PM: Helen has your vet test for giardia? That causes diarrhea .. which is either accute, intermittent or chronic. Appetite isn't affected and there aren't really any other symptoms of it. It is really hard to diagnose because it doesn't show up in all stool samples and it needs to actively be looked for and even then can be easy to miss.

It probably sounds a bit better than him having an allergy.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 16, 2009, 16:43:27 PM: He didn't specifically mention Giardia but he did say they were no signs of protozoan parasites, which Giardia is. It wasn't the 'normal' vet, when you have any tests you have to ring up at a certain time and speak with any vet who is on duty. The vet who saw the boys together and gave the metronidazole was VERY thorough (he's one of the partners) so if the results come back negative for camplobacteria (sp?) I'll try and speak with him specifically.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Team Svartalfheims on March 16, 2009, 16:52:45 PM: Yes we've got a dust mite and maize allergy here! Have PM'd you :)

I must admit I did laugh when I saw that York test for allergies to human dander. What on earth do you do if your pet is allergic to you? Do you have to Petal Cleanse yourself I wonder :Crazy:
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Den on March 16, 2009, 16:53:09 PM: Oops sorry didn't realise Giardia was a Protozoan. Really hope the cause of his bottom issues are found.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 16, 2009, 17:03:54 PM: Quote from: Den on March 16, 2009, 16:53:09 PM
Really hope the cause of his bottom issues are found.

I don't even mind if the cause wasn't discovered, as far as I'm concerned he is fine now and I'm happy for it to be put down as 'one of those things'. I don't know why but it's really annoyed me suggesting he has an allergy, sounds like a cop out to me and if I don't have the allergy tests done (that's if they even suggest them) then he will be labelled as having a food allergy which I genuinely don't think he does. I'm going to make sure he gets fed one of each flavourwise of Bozita over the next few days and see if there's any reactions.

:thanks: for the PM Lottie
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on March 16, 2009, 17:10:10 PM: Quote from: Team Svartalfheims on March 16, 2009, 16:52:45 PM
I must admit I did laugh when I saw that York test for allergies to human dander. What on earth do you do if your pet is allergic to you? Do you have to Petal Cleanse yourself I wonder :Crazy:

:rofl: :rofl:

Can't remember, but is Riley on Lacto b? or were you waiting for all the results of blood tests? If it is inconclusive, I would get some lacto b and keep him on it for a while (even if his poo seems ok). When Jaffa has a bit of a problem, I put him on lacto b and kept him on it for several months, even though he seemed better. Then I decided to stop it and he's been pretty much ok ever since.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 16, 2009, 18:48:16 PM: Quote from: Susanne (urbantigers) on March 16, 2009, 17:10:10 PM
Quote from: Team Svartalfheims on March 16, 2009, 16:52:45 PM
I must admit I did laugh when I saw that York test for allergies to human dander. What on earth do you do if your pet is allergic to you? Do you have to Petal Cleanse yourself I wonder :Crazy:

:rofl: :rofl:

Can't remember, but is Riley on Lacto b? or were you waiting for all the results of blood tests? If it is inconclusive, I would get some lacto b and keep him on it for a while (even if his poo seems ok). When Jaffa has a bit of a problem, I put him on lacto b and kept him on it for several months, even though he seemed better. Then I decided to stop it and he's been pretty much ok ever since.

You said previously that you didnt want to give lacto B till the results were in and that would be my first port of call, next..........did that make sense :shify:

Franta has had lacto B for about a week and seems to fine now but did stop it too early and he showed signs of having a problem again. Put him back on it and last night he was fine.....so keeping fingers crossed.

Fantastic stuff especially as can out in food without a problem ;D
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Millys Mum on March 16, 2009, 18:56:01 PM: Glad hes negative so far, giardia would have shown up helen so dont worry, the metronidazole you have given would have treated it anyway!
Campylobacter is the spelling you want ;)
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Den on March 16, 2009, 19:04:05 PM: Quote from: Millys Mum on March 16, 2009, 18:56:01 PM
Glad hes negative so far, giardia would have shown up helen so dont worry, the metronidazole you have given would have treated it anyway!
Campylobacter is the spelling you want ;)

Giardia doesn't always show up and often slips under the radar. Also some strains are becomming resistant to metronidazole or require longer courses to kill some of the hardier ones. Panacur is supposedly a much better at treating it.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Millys Mum on March 16, 2009, 19:05:58 PM: Nah panacur is useless, it doesnt shift worms either >:(
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Den on March 16, 2009, 19:08:08 PM: Quote from: Millys Mum on March 16, 2009, 19:05:58 PM
Nah panacur is useless, it doesnt shift worms either >:(

Have to agree to disagree on that I'm afraid. My personal experience is that Panacur definitely shifts worms :sick:

Edit - forgot I have heard of metronidazole being used followed by a course of Panacur.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on March 17, 2009, 21:53:12 PM: Wll the vet (a different one) rang this afternoon and said that the test has come back negative for campylobacter (thanks MM!), he then started to talk about food allergies again but said that the vegetable and animal deriviatives in each batch might vary so it could be that something has changed with the food in that way. I then mentioned about Lu having been poorly in the middle of it too and I basically said that seeing as he was better and that the test has come back with no nasties then I'll just carry on as we were which he agreed was the best course of action, no food change required.

I actually dug out all the empty cartons from the bin (:sick:) to backdate his 'food diary' and will make sure they have the ones they haven't already had over the next few days just to discount the allergy theory.
Title: Re: Poorly Riley... again - UPDATE
Post by: Millys Mum on March 18, 2009, 19:24:24 PM: Glad you havnt got any lurgies Helen ;D