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Title: Chick crumb ingredients
Post by: Millys Mum on January 29, 2009, 13:54:10 PM
Is anybody concerned longterm it could cause excess vitamin issues in a cat? From licking dust etc from paws.

Iv used a sack of duck/goose starter (same as chick crumb but minus the coccidia treatment, all their chick stuff had that in  :tired: ) and was looking at the label

vit a 10,000 iu/kg felix has 1,110 iu/kg
vit d3 3,000 iu/kg felix has 140 iu/kg
copper 25mg/kg and felix has 3mg/kg

Was wondering if any body else had pondered it, as we know feeding liver daily can cause issues and that wouldnt be as concentrated as the crumb is  :-:
Title: Re: Chick crumb ingredients
Post by: sheryl on January 29, 2009, 14:08:09 PM
I always make sure that I buy the crumb with no hormones and I really dont think that paw licking is likely to cause long term damage - I mentioned to my vet that I use chick crumb and she thought it was a "great idea"  TBH I hardly ever see any of mine washing their paws after using the tray

Some of the clumping litters are so dusty that I would worry more about causing my cats respiratory problems
Title: Re: Chick crumb ingredients
Post by: Gillian Harvey on January 29, 2009, 14:15:24 PM
Its one of the reasons I stopped using them in the end, plus I'd made a mistake and had been buying medicated crumbs (at the time this particular brand was so much cheaper and I stupidly believed the pet shop when they said they WERENT medicated - and didnt read the label myself). I'm convinced that ingestion of some of the medicated crumbs over a period of a few months (until I realised) contributed to Gwynnie's problems. You can't avoid ingestion entirely when they wash themselves etc, so I stopped using them altogether.
Title: Re: Chick crumb ingredients
Post by: Millys Mum on January 29, 2009, 14:24:18 PM
If your right Gillian it happened very quickly  :scared:

The vitamin a is what i was mainly pondering about being fat soluble it hangs around alot longer and the crumb has 10 times more in it
Title: Re: Chick crumb ingredients
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on January 29, 2009, 15:35:19 PM
Is anybody concerned longterm it could cause excess vitamin issues in a cat? From licking dust etc from paws.

Iv used a sack of duck/goose starter (same as chick crumb but minus the coccidia treatment, all their chick stuff had that in  :tired: ) and was looking at the label

vit a 10,000 iu/kg felix has 1,110 iu/kg
vit d3 3,000 iu/kg felix has 140 iu/kg
copper 25mg/kg and felix has 3mg/kg

Was wondering if any body else had pondered it, as we know feeding liver daily can cause issues and that wouldnt be as concentrated as the crumb is  :-:


If one kg of Felix has 1110 iu of Vitamin A then 1 x 100g pouch, which is eaten in it's entirety, has 111 iu.  100g of chick crumb would have 1000 iu, how much of that 100g would be ingested through paw licking?  I think even suggesting that 1g would be ingested is very unlikely but if it was, then it would contain 10 iu which would be equivalent to a tenth of a pouch of Felix.

To even ingest 1g they would have to shoot out of the litter tray and start licking immediately, I think the minute they set foot on carpet any dust residue would be long gone.
Title: Re: Chick crumb ingredients
Post by: sheryl on January 29, 2009, 15:47:05 PM
My thoughts exactly Helen but you have explained it mathematically (I would have got in a right mucking fuddle trying to explain what I meant)
Title: Re: Chick crumb ingredients
Post by: Dawn F on January 29, 2009, 15:50:58 PM
I'm not worried about it, I use an unmedicated brand and frankly who knows what they get on their paws in the garden etc
Title: Re: Chick crumb ingredients
Post by: Millys Mum on January 29, 2009, 16:17:18 PM
Thanks helen, the maths makes sense for normal cats  ;D but any like my lola will snack on it  :sick: dont know why she does cos it doesnt smell as nice as wbcl