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Cat General => General Cat Chat => Topic started by: Gillian Harvey on February 16, 2007, 17:20:56 PM

Title: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on February 16, 2007, 17:20:56 PM: Well my heart says I should adopt 2 colourpoint (my fave!) persians of 12 and 13 whose owner has died and the husband is ill so can't cope with them now. My head says, I've already got 10 (had more than that before) but sort of got used to 'only' having 10, not sure about going through all the introductions again, and of course 2 more sets of vet bills and 2 more mouths to feed.

The plus side is that I know the original breeder (it was her that contacted me to see if I'd have them) so I know the temperament will be lovely, easy going, sociable and prob easy to integrate. I really feel sad for them because their mum died suddenly just before xmas and their dad is going downhill fast, he has carers coming in several times a day, so their little world has been turned upside down.

I know only I can decide whether to have them or not - but just wondered if anyone had any thoughts, pros, cons etc etc?
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: JackSpratt on February 16, 2007, 17:35:17 PM: Ahhh, Gillian! I'm a person based purely on emotion! Everyone around me has to be my "rational thinking." If you feel you have the time, patience, and money and don't feel it would cause too much trouble with your current cat family, I say go for it! :)
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on February 16, 2007, 17:55:13 PM: Quote from: JackSpratt on February 16, 2007, 17:35:17 PM
Ahhh, Gillian! I'm a person based purely on emotion! Everyone around me has to be my "rational thinking." If you feel you have the time, patience, and money and don't feel it would cause too much trouble with your current cat family, I say go for it! :)

LOL! - trouble is I don't have anyone around to be my 'rational thinker' - I have to try and do both! Thanks for your input - here's some pics of them, Jasper is the redpoint (terribly messy eyes - just want to get my hands on 'em and clean 'em up!) and Zeta is the blue-cream point.

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Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Millys Mum on February 16, 2007, 18:07:10 PM: If you can afford another 2 then go with the heart! :catluv:

:Flowers: :Flowers: :Flowers:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: saffron on February 16, 2007, 18:32:53 PM: if you have the time & can afford it then go for it, not alot of difference between 10 or 12 is there ;)
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: JackSpratt on February 16, 2007, 19:14:45 PM: I'm terribly sorry, Gillian! We don't appear to be giving you the logical part either! ;)
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on February 16, 2007, 19:30:19 PM: Heck you lot - not much rational thinking here then! Need to go and have a think with one of these :tea: - or even better, one of these ! :beer:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: saffron on February 16, 2007, 19:43:14 PM: one of these :beer: followed by :beer: :beer: then get the cats :cheer:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on February 16, 2007, 19:51:57 PM: Quote from: saffron on February 16, 2007, 19:43:14 PM
one of these :beer: followed by :beer: :beer: then get the cats :cheer:

Yikes Saffron! - can you imagine the phone call to the lady after I'd had all those, 'I love dem puddy tats, gonna come and pick 'em up right now - hic' ;D
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 16, 2007, 20:29:15 PM: Rationally. can you afford them
Do you have the space
Do you have time to groom another too and everything else that another two means
How will the other 10 react
have they known any other cats and how happy would they be with 10 new friends
What will happen to them if you dont have them
Not so rational
Would you like them
They look gorgeous
Will another two make so much difference

:evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Liz on February 16, 2007, 20:49:39 PM: With you they have somewhere to live in comfort with an already trained slave, speakiang a a Mum of 37 plus a couple of strays you will never notice after a while and 12 don't eat that much more than 10.

So go with your heart they will be so greatful and your other furkids will love you again soon! :innocent:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Rosella moggy on February 16, 2007, 20:53:52 PM: Gill, you wicked catperson .... draped in the "rational" cloak, methinks you just found 2 beautiful creatures a home? Sorry Gillian, I think the clinchers are

Gill: What will happen to them if you dont have them? Followed by

Lyn: At least if they went with you they would be going to a good knowledgable home?

Oh dear! Sorry I'm no use am I!
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 16, 2007, 22:15:05 PM: Completely useless :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: COSMIC CREEPERS on February 16, 2007, 23:13:03 PM: AV EM AV EM ALLLLLLLLLLLLL :evillaugh:

i WANT TO GET MY HANDS ON THOSE POOR LITTLE BLINKERS :'(

BE THERE NEW MUMMY :Luv:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: saffron on February 16, 2007, 23:34:38 PM: ok ok tell the lady you had an early party for the 2 furbabes, you know you want them go..go... get em girl :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: I would help but too far away from you
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: saffron on February 17, 2007, 14:24:15 PM: So did you have :beer: :beer: :beer: & collect those beautiful babes???????
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on February 17, 2007, 14:46:24 PM: he he! Just seen the rest of these messages - hopeless, the lot of you! ;D

Quote from: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 16, 2007, 20:29:15 PM
Rationally. can you afford them
Do you have the space
Do you have time to groom another too and everything else that another two means
How will the other 10 react
have they known any other cats and how happy would they be with 10 new friends
What will happen to them if you dont have them
Not so rational
Would you like them
They look gorgeous
Will another two make so much difference

:evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:

Afford them? - hmmm, well just!
Space? - yep think so, 3 bed house, 3 rooms downstairs not bad size, lots of giant cat climbing posts, outdoor space - large safe fenced areas, plus long garden
Time to groom? - yep, lost 2 old persians last year, so its like back up to numbers againi ;D
Other 10's reactions? - well prob some of them hissy at first, but all been used to new faces
2 new ones reactions? - well, that I just don't know - they've only ever been used to each other, however I have taken on cats that havent been used to others before without too much probs.

If I don't have them? - I dunno what will happen to them, its possible they might find the perfect home (even more suitable than mine :evillaugh:
Do I want them? - Yeh, I think I probably do! (notice I've said 'think' and 'probably'!)
2 more make much diff? - no, not really.

So, I'm going to phone later today, or tomorrow - just to have a chat about the cats you understand! :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Cheesecat on February 17, 2007, 14:50:18 PM: Awww this is the exciting bit, lots of potential!

Let us know what happens, they look gorge :)
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Rosella moggy on February 17, 2007, 14:53:05 PM: You are a star. Whatever happens, hope it all works out for you all; all 13 of you (wow! I've got quite enough with 3)
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: saffron on February 17, 2007, 15:00:07 PM: I think a call made later today will be good (I'm bias) :rofl:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: ccmacey on February 17, 2007, 15:00:27 PM: Let your heart lead you and let your head guide you once they are in your home, If you feel you can do it, then you will. I'm sure you are more than able to look after these old babes, After all it is happiness that makes the heart content. :)

Ps- if you only got room for 1 I would willingly take Sam, he's adorable. :Luv:

:car: I'm on the way, lol.
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on February 17, 2007, 18:09:41 PM: Quote from: Gillian (Ambercat) on February 17, 2007, 14:46:24 PM

So, I'm going to phone later today, or tomorrow - just to have a chat about the cats you understand! :evillaugh:

:rofl: :rofl:
Let us know when you are picking them up !!!
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: shecat on February 17, 2007, 19:11:18 PM: Why Tomorrow,

come one come come on :hug: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
My mum said tomorrow never comes so Ive always found now does nicely. :catluv:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on February 17, 2007, 19:26:07 PM: OK, OK! I've phoned her (Jane, the daughter in law) very nice lady, had a good chat, she said she couldnt take them on because she's got 2 cats, haa! Anyway, she's going to broach the subject with Reg (the elderly owner whose wife has died) - he knows they've got to go, but he doesnt know yet that a 'potential' home may have been found. Very sad for him giving them up after all these years.

Mum's put a downer on it (theres my voice of reason!) she thinks it will upset my lot as I havent introduced any new ones for a few years now.

Quote from: ccmacey on February 17, 2007, 15:00:27 PM

Ps- if you only got room for 1 I would willingly take Sam, he's adorable. :Luv:

:car: I'm on the way, lol.

Oooh, I'm putting Sam under lock and key :sneaky:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on February 17, 2007, 20:35:41 PM: Quote from: Gillian (Ambercat) on February 17, 2007, 19:26:07 PM
, she's going to broach the subject with Reg (the elderly owner whose wife has died) - he knows they've got to go, but he doesnt know yet that a 'potential' home may have been found. Very sad for him giving them up after all these years.

Why does he have to give them up ??
(feeling sorry he the old man now :()

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Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Rosella moggy on February 17, 2007, 20:51:42 PM: Quote from: Gillian (Ambercat) on February 16, 2007, 17:20:56 PM
I really feel sad for them because their mum died suddenly just before xmas and their dad is going downhill fast, he has carers coming in several times a day, so their little world has been turned upside down.

Sad Michelle but sounds necessary
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Yvonne on February 17, 2007, 21:44:49 PM: Quote from: saffron on February 17, 2007, 14:24:15 PM
So did you have :beer: :beer: :beer: & collect those beautiful babes???????

Where do you get all those lovely smileys??
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 18, 2007, 01:08:18 AM: This is exciting ;D

Shes had two cats so couldnt take em :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I got 4 and you got 10 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Ummmmmmmmm when are they arriving ;D
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Ela on February 18, 2007, 10:07:21 AM: Quote
Shes had two cats so couldnt take em

Does that mean when anything happens to her father in law that that if the house is his and she has one she won't want it? You can bet your life it doesn't.
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on February 18, 2007, 11:04:57 AM: Quote from: Millys Mum on February 16, 2007, 18:07:10 PM
If you can afford another 2 then go with the heart! :catluv:

:Flowers: :Flowers: :Flowers:

I agree - I would have more if I could afford it.
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on February 18, 2007, 13:54:43 PM: Quote from: furbabystar (Michelle) on February 17, 2007, 20:35:41 PM
Why does he have to give them up ??
(feeling sorry he the old man now :()

I know Michelle, I do too, but he just can't cope with the grooming and eye cleaning now, he's lost the use of one hand so makes it v. difficult and has back problems. I even offered to go over every couple of months to bath the cats if that would help him to keep them, but that doesnt seem to be an option, and I do wonder if the family is pushing him into this a bit. Currently the daughter in law is coming in to comb them (don't know why that couldnt continue) - but I suppose in the end they would need a new home anyway.

Quote from: Ela on February 18, 2007, 10:07:21 AM
Does that mean when anything happens to her father in law that that if the house is his and she has one she won't want it? You can bet your life it doesn't.

You cynic Ela! :evillaugh: - that thought had entered my mind too though!
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on March 01, 2007, 20:10:42 PM: Well, these guys are coming to stay in 2 weeks time :yesss:

Although they are 12 and 13 yrs old - they've only ever had their initial kitten vaccinations, so decided it would probably be best to have the full cat flu course before coming to me, rather than just the booster, to be on the safe side. So they had their first jab yesterday, next one in 2 wks, then over to me that weekend.

So watch this space! :attention:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on March 01, 2007, 20:28:22 PM: brilliant !!!!

Knew you would have them LOL

2wks will go quickly and then they will be home with you.

Pics........pics.........pics........ As soon as you get them please :rofl:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 01, 2007, 20:47:04 PM: oh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, yes pics needed ;D
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: COSMIC CREEPERS on March 01, 2007, 21:57:28 PM: av lost track gillian

are u avin em now :evillaugh:

or just looking after em for a while
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: saffron on March 01, 2007, 22:38:55 PM: brilliant news,hoped you would have them :yesss: :yesss:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on March 02, 2007, 07:31:51 AM: Aww, I didn't think you would be able to say no!!
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Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on March 02, 2007, 07:45:44 AM: Aw - well done! I knew you'd end up having them! Can't wait to see pics of them.
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Ellie on March 02, 2007, 08:23:34 AM: So pleased you are getting these furbabes :)

Can't wait to see the pics ;)
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on March 02, 2007, 11:32:24 AM: There are pics of them in their current home I posted earlier on the 2nd page of this thread! But will post more when I get them home.

Quote from: COSMIC CREEPERS on March 01, 2007, 21:57:28 PM
av lost track gillian
are u avin em now :evillaugh:
or just looking after em for a while

Yep, definitely having them permanently!

So now I've got 2 weeks to explain to the others that just because there are new ones coming won't mean I'll love them any less! :Luv:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Millys Mum on March 02, 2007, 17:45:02 PM: Yay!!
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Cheesecat on March 02, 2007, 17:57:40 PM: Exciting! :)

Can't wait for the pics :Luv:
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Baggy on March 02, 2007, 19:45:30 PM: :yayyy:

This thread has made me laugh so much, so glad you're taking them Gillian!
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: COSMIC CREEPERS on March 03, 2007, 19:31:06 PM: ;) wheres the pics gillian
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on March 04, 2007, 15:09:03 PM: Quote from: COSMIC CREEPERS on March 03, 2007, 19:31:06 PM
;) wheres the pics gillian

I posted them earlier in the thread, but here they are again! The daughter in law took the pics with the flash - so they've got scarey eyes! but their eyes are blue of course.

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Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: COSMIC CREEPERS on March 04, 2007, 19:33:55 PM: av u managed to sort those poor eyes out now

how was the old man giving them up , do you think he would get a domestic short hair old cat from rescue that he could manage to care for and to keep him company or is he not bothered for a cat at all
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on March 04, 2007, 20:15:06 PM: Quote from: Gillian (Ambercat) on March 02, 2007, 11:32:24 AM
So now I've got 2 weeks to explain to the others that just because there are new ones coming won't mean I'll love them any less! :Luv:

Fingers crossed they'll all get on. At least yours are all used to being around other cats so hopefully they'll accept 2 more in the mix!
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on March 05, 2007, 12:20:28 PM: Quote from: Susanne (urbantigers) on March 04, 2007, 20:15:06 PM
[Fingers crossed they'll all get on. At least yours are all used to being around other cats so hopefully they'll accept 2 more in the mix!

Thats what I'm hoping Susanne! I introduced a little white Persian Crystal once and the first time I let her out of the room she went straight downstairs, mingled with the others at teatime and no-one batted an eyelid! Doesnt always happen like that though.

Quote from: COSMIC CREEPERS on March 04, 2007, 19:33:55 PM
av u managed to sort those poor eyes out now

how was the old man giving them up , do you think he would get a domestic short hair old cat from rescue that he could manage to care for and to keep him company or is he not bothered for a cat at all

Havent got 'em yet Cosmic! couple of weeks, because they've still got to have their second cat flu jab. I don't know about the old man, he's not really well himself and not very mobile, so its not just a case of grooming and eye care, its the general day to day care of a cat I think. Its a shame.

The daughter in law is bringing them over to me, she said her father in law wasnt really mobile enough to come too.
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: COSMIC CREEPERS on March 05, 2007, 19:53:56 PM: oohhhh poor man i bet hes still a little sad :(
Title: Re: Heart or Head?
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on March 05, 2007, 20:19:26 PM: Quote from: Gillian (Ambercat) on March 05, 2007, 12:20:28 PM
Quote from: Susanne (urbantigers) on March 04, 2007, 20:15:06 PM
[Fingers crossed they'll all get on. At least yours are all used to being around other cats so hopefully they'll accept 2 more in the mix!

Thats what I'm hoping Susanne! I introduced a little white Persian Crystal once and the first time I let her out of the room she went straight downstairs, mingled with the others at teatime and no-one batted an eyelid! Doesnt always happen like that though.

Maybe they'll not even notice the addition of 2 more. Can cats count? ;D