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Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on November 03, 2008, 12:14:06 PM
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Franta is off to the vets tonight ready for an op on his mouth and full tests tomorrow.
He is a 15yr old birman and I am I think worried out of all proportion. He is back to his normal self now after the traumas of the last two weeks and it seems so sad to upset and stress him out by taking him to the vets.
The nice lady vet says one of his kidneys is so small that she can hardly feel it but he is not showing any symptoms of kidney probs. We know he has a mouth problem and am hoping that he may eat a bit better when he recovers but think its the battery of tests that worries me the most and that my Kocka ended up with kidney probs after a GA and she was a bit younger and a moggy.
Birmans are not known for their great length of life so 15 is very old for them, although occasional ones live to 20.
I am so stressed its been picked up by Frantas bro who sleeps with me and he has been wiling and meowing at me cos he didnt want me to get up........most unusual cos he usually cant wait to get all the bed and pillow.
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Hope all goes well for Franta - try not to worry too much (stupid thing to say I know really). :hug:
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I don't think you are stressed out of all proportion, I would be off my head too, but I just hope that all will go really well. Presumably they are only doing tests that have to be done? Hopefully it's a really good sign that Franta's been much better for 2 weeks and he will sail through it all and his mouth will be much better very soon too and the household back to normal. It's just so stressful being a doting mum so just send you big hugs :hug: positive vibes coming from us all for his quick recovery and for you too. My Max is just like Franta's bro in that when I get upset and stressed he hides and gets upset, but ultimately he's ok, as Franta's bro will be too - impossible to hide how you are feeling! x
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I hope the procedure goes smoothly and Franta's recovery is speedy. There's no point telling you to try not to worry, but I will anyway :hug:
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Sending lots of love and get well soon vibes for the lovely Franta. :hug:
It is impossible not to worry but try to stay positive :hug:
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Positive thoughts and best wishes for Franta today xx
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Hopefully the mouth op will help his other issues.
Pointless telling you not to worry.
Good luck Franta & Gill :hug:
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Awwwww, I'm sure Franta will be just fine, and as others have said, there's no point us telling you not to worry, as I'm sure, like you, we all worry when our little ones are in for ops/tests, but do try to stay positive :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Good luck this evening and for the op and tests tomorrow, try not to worry - yes I know, impossible! :hug:
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Good luck!!! :hug:
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Hope it all went well for Franta :hug:
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Good luck Franta and a :hug: for you too!
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:luck: for tomorrow, will be thinking of you both :hug:
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Thank you from me and also from Franta :hug:
He is now safely at the vets and we had 30 mins cuddle time in the car outside cos we were early, managed trip in an hour before the traffic was too heavy.
He was very chilled out in his carrier when I left him but he wasnt gonna walk out ;D
took his own food for his dinner tonight and hope that the op will help him to eat better.
Gonna take Ducha with me tomorrow when I collect Franta so they can start cuddling in the car and hopefully Ducha wont hate Franta for two weeeks like Franta hated Ducha.......sigh.
Its strange without him, its so quiet and his cushion is all forlrn and empty. I will be so pleased to have him home and shouting at me for one reason and another ;D
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hope everything went/goes well - have to say I just love your Franta, he's the perfect chocolate box pud!
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Good luck for tomorrow - hope everything goes well. It's normal to worry, but if Franta isn't showing any signs of illness and hasn't lost weight or anything like that, there's unlikely to be any serious problems.
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Best of luck for Franta...................... Beavis sends special Birman head butts and a very loud meow xxxx
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Thinking of you both xx
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Thank you all and hope you are right Susanne. The only thing apart from his mouth is his very small kidney but he just doesnt have the symptoms.
I think I better go eat now but he is always around when I am eating...pushing and shoving and trying to see whats on my plate and then not wanting it although he seemed to like the smell........sigh
have to say Franta and Sasa are not missing him at all!
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:hug: will be thinking of Franta x
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Gill, thinking of you and Franta and hope all goes well.
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BIG hugs for Franta :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Thank you and its really appreciated ;D
I hope they are going to appreciate him howling at them tomorrow for his breakfast, although I am led to believe that cats are better behaved away from home :evillaugh:
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:hug: for you, and good luck for Franta!
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Fingers crossed for the luscious Franta..... :Luv:
:hug: :hug: :hug: for you Gill
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Fingers crossed for his dental and tests today
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Good luck Franta, hope you're a good boy today :Luv: :Luv:
Sending you a :hug: as well Gilly, he'll be home before you know it xxx
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good luck Franta and Gill - hope you are worrying about nothing
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Sending Franta massive cuddles for today and a :hug: for you Gill xx
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all the best :hug:
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Let us know how it goes :hug:
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All the best for today,I totally understand your worry,I'm sure he'll be ok though :hug:
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Hope all goes well for you and Franta and don't forget the treats which you will need :hug:
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Sending lots of love and cuddles for you and Franta today xx
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Best of luck Franta.
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Best of luck for today - do you know what time they will be doing the op Gill, and when you can pick him up again?
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Sending lots of love and headbutts from the gang to you and Franta today. Hope all goes well. :hug:
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Thanks all :hug:
I have not heard from the vet so now is the time to ring they said :wish:
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Have rung vets and they are still doing him :(
They told me he would be done this morning but looks like they have left him to last and they say to ring back in an hour >:(
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sending lots of love and furry wet nose bumps to you and Franta from all of us here.
I'm sure he'll be back and nudging his way into your dinner in no time! :hug:
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Why is it one forgets how to ask questions when you are worried?
Just rang vets and they say he can be collected at 1815 but I need to see the vet.......I know I wanted to see her but now I have an offical appointment......should I be worried more?
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I don't think you should worry too much hun, its probably more about the after care etc, I know I had to talk to Max's vet when he had his extractions a few years ago :hug:
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They probably just want to go over with you exactly what they have done, any tests they've carried out and why they've done them and what they have found so I would try not to panic too much (easier said than done I know and I always panic)
Sending big :hug: to you and gentle head kisses to my lovely Lord Franta.
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I had an official appointment with my vet after Mig had his teeth done. It was to just discuss what he had done. So I wouldn't worry :hug:
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I do hope you are right cos this didnt happen afer Duchas and he didnt have all the tests that Franta has had.
Oh dear , I thought today was going well and now I am not so sure,,,,,,,,and have bloomin hurt back this morning.
Better go and find something to rub it with as its gonna be so late now when I am collecting him.
Was gonna take Ducha so that they could get to know each other again on the way back but now its gonna be so late, I dont know if I should.
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I shouldnt worry Gill, my vet always makes a short consult appointment with me when I go to collect a cat after any procedure. The vet will want to run through the test results with you - thats a good thing :hug:
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I shouldnt worry Gill, my vet always makes a short consult appointment with me when I go to collect a cat after any procedure. The vet will want to run through the test results with you - thats a good thing :hug:
Ditto to all that.
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Thanks ;D
Do you think I should take Ducha now?
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Yes, i have nearly always had to see the vet when one of mine has been in for something and its just been routine every time except when he told me about Smartie having a heart condition.
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I probably wouldnt Gill, I'd think I'd wait till Franta is home and both on familiar territory, but you know them best and how you think they'll react to each other. :hug:
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All I know is that Franta would not have anything to do with Ducha for about 2 weeks after Duchas op, despite exchanging the scent. It upset Ducha who used to go up to Franta and headbutt him and rub against him, so was trying to avoid that.
However its gonna be dark and cold and I dont want to upset Ducha, maybe Franta will be fully awake when he comes home now cos it will be about 4 hours after his op and may want to cuddle more with me.
Thanks for the advice........I have become incompident to make decisions now.........sigh
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I'm sure the vet will just want to talk about how things went etc,I know we always seem to think the worst,its just our natural instinct to worry when our babies are at the vetI think.
Regarding Ducha,I'm not too sure,if it was me I think I'd just to collect Franta and bring him home to his brother,if your taking Ducha too then you might be stressing him (going in the car etc) without the real need to do it,just my thaughts,feel free to correct me if I am speaking out of turn.
Heres a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig :cuddle: for you Aunty Gillie from us lot and unfortunately the dogs too,mind their fur is nasty and sticks to your clothes,not like us cats :innocent:
Ging,Grwndi,Rameses,Cuddles and Cymro
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I agree with what everybody else has said, I'm sure the consult is just routine, but we all worry ourselves sick when our babies are at the vets so we know exactly how you feel. :hug: :hug: Not long now and he'll be home tormenting the life out of you again :)
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I had to see the vet when Charlie was neutered and when he had his ear wash. Just routine and he went through what he had done, what he had found and the blood test results. Try not to worry too much. :hug:
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Everything crossed for Franta :hug:
It will be so good to get him home :hug:
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Hope Franta enjoys being spoilt safely back at home! :)
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How did he get on Gill? :hug:
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Topping up the hugs Gill :hug:
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Hope all went well Gill :hug:
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Hope that Franta is safely back home now and everything went ok. :hug:
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you will have to forgive me for typos etc cos I am so worried bout franta.
I took in a happy meowy bouncy cat and he is hoem now since about 1930 and he could hardly walk and was falling over and I wasnt told that he was gonna be like this still. He isw currently flat out, literally.
He has had 2 teeth out and some little ones that were loose but he has problems and has been xrayed. Its his kidneys and one is very small and xrays showed that he has a stone in the small one and also something else cant remember , may be crystals possibly blocking up route to that kidney.
They have taken urine and it shows minimal struvite crstals which rthey dont think are a problem but everything has gone off for analisis plus blood. His blood pressuer was high end of normal but sjhe said its OK for a cat of his age and a birman.
I was given antibiotics for him but I cant find them, they were a big box, dont even know what they were called cos didnt look, thought I would wait till got home.
I all confcused now cos of him being so bad when IU got himk home.
He was on a drip right until I picked him up and she said if he wanted to eat tonight to let him, so thats why I didnt expect him to be like he is.
She said that they may need to takwe another urine sample but that would have to be while he was out again cos they would insert a needle staright into his bladder so its sterile but this depends on the results that come in.
I have seen all the zxrays and she says if it was decided to remove the crysxtals then he would need to be referred on.
My head is spinning and am also having probs cos my back has got worse since this afternoon and its a problem driving now, cos have hurt a nerve and now have sciatica in right leg..........my drfiving leg.
Cant coontact the vets again until the morning and the vet that traeted Franta on her day off.
When I rang at 1500, is op and stuff was all over so we are now over 5 hours since the op and other stuff finished and would have thought he would be coming round by now.
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:hug: poor thing, Schui was on a drip the whole time of his teeth removal and he has many ailments. he's probably still recovering from the anaesthetic Gill and the upset of it all, I hope he's perkier tomorrow but do ring the vet if not.
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Awww Gill - maybe hes very woozy after the op.. if he hasnt picked up soon maybe it would be an idea to call the emergency vet..
When fredcat had a sedative last he was just like how Franta sounds now , but he picked right up after it wore off. :hug:
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Gill glad he is safely home now, what a worry.
Am sure its normal for him to be dozy, he should improve overnight. Archie was like this after his ops and he is younger.
I would just let him have a good rest :hug:
Also sorry to hear about your back :hug:
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i am sorry that he is still so sleepy after the op, I have only had that with one of my cats, it was a rescue vet and they used a different kind of anaesthetic, she was fine by the morning though. It is normal for dentals to be done last due to the bacteria in the mouth. Fingers crossed for the blood results, shame they couldn't do them in house
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:hug: :hug: Oh Gill, they are a worry. :hug: :hug: Hope Franta's feeling better tomorrow.
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Sorry to hear Franta is still wobbly ... keeping everything crossed that he will be perkier in the morning. :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Fingers and toes crossed that Franta is feeling much perkier soon :hug: :hug:
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Hopefully it's just the anaesthetic that has knocked him back a bit, I know when I had my OP the anaesthetic really knocked me for six for the first 24 hours or so :hug:
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Hope Franta is feeling better soon.
When i took Smartie and he has the lump removed and his teeth cleaned , i picked him up about 5pm and he was really wobbly , and he was a bit wobbly for 2-3 days afterwards too .
I just let him sleep it off , but checked him about every 10 mins and all through the night too .
Sophie was also very wobbly when i fetched her back from having a tooth out and still slightly wobbly for a couple of days .
They are 11 years and 14 1/2 , so maybe it takes longer to recover when they ar a bit older.
Winston was even a bit unsteady and sat near his water bowl all night when he had an impacted fang removed and he is one big heavy cat - he is 10.
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I can only say that Blip was groggy for several days after she had her upper canine removed. Even with pain relief, it must hurt like heck :hug:
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Yes he's bound to still feel a bit groggy and wobbly until the anaesthetic wears off completely. do you know how long the results of the urinalysis and bloods will be? Maybe you will be able to get a urine sample from him (with the saucer routine!) rather than having him put under again if another sample is needed? Hope he will feel better soon :hug: When your head is clearer tomorrow, ring the vet and get her to run through things with you again if you are still not sure about anything - I know its hard to take it all in at the time. :hug:
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Oh Gill :hug: :hug: :hug:
Have been stalking you on "members last posts" to see what's going on. Poor Franta. I know it's a terrible worry when they get older and so understand you not being able to take things in when confronted with so much unexpected upsetting info all at once. Do you know if they gave Franta a Metacam jab as if they did at least you can be quite sure he will not be in any discomfort when he properly comes around. I think it's pretty normal to do so with dentals. I'm sure you'll find the anti biotics soon enough when you've had a chance to chill out a little. Very unlikely that you need to give antibiotics tonight in any event. If you've got a receipt that should tell you what you've paid for.
I was beside myself with worry when Freddie had all but 2 teeth extracted. I was told to let Freddie eat if he wanted to but he had 2 licks of the prescription diet I picked up and that was it for the 1st evening. I was worried sick but he was a lot better the next morning. Freddie's was a lot more invasive but he was significantly younger. Can only say he was a different cat after he recovered. Also worrying news about Franta's kidney but really nothing to be done about that just now. Time enough to get more information when blood test results come through. Like Paddy said a few days back (think it was Paddy) one kidney can be enough.
Being back at home should help him rest. Can't have been much fun being away from his family overnight.
Very sorry to hear about your back as well :hug:
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Thanks all
I have been in chat and cos on lappie can only be one place at a time.
Franta is up for a while and then he lies down again, doesnt seem to know what he is doing.
havent paid anything yet cos all this is ongoing.
No apparently they cant do a test like that gillian cos they want a sterile specimin, depending on results awaited, and only way for this is to go into the bladder. apparently with some cats they can just do it without anything but she says noty franta.
He isn up and wandering like adrunken sailor and yes he haqs had painkillers, was put in the drip whicjh he was on until i collected him.
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Sorry to hear you're so worried about Franta :hug: They all respond to anaesthetic differently, so I'd guess it's just taking him a bit longer to come around from it and that he will be fine in a couple of days.
I hope the tests dont' reveal anything too worrying.
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In might not seem it but it sounds like he is doing very well :hug:
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He is starting to wake up I think but legs not very co-ordinated. has wandereed round the room, had a scratch on a post and now back behind sofa resting.
I feel so sorry for him as he was so happy before he went.
will have to ring vets tomorrow about antibiotics cos have lost them completely but suspect its a waste of time cos wont beable to get them into him and he is not wanting to eat or drink. He has been on a drip for hours though.
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Everyones gone to bed grrrrrrrrrrrrr
I am worried about Franta again....he is making lots of little noises and hope that its not his lungs. Also hope its not cos he is in pain.
he wont eat or drink which is not surprising but diont know what to watch for in case he needs to be rushed somewhere tonight.
He is more awake and he is now on the table by my side and he got up there all by himself............maybe he just gets exhausted when he has move around a bit.
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how is dear Franta this morning Gill?
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How is Franta ??
Hope He is feeling better today :shy:
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Try not to worry Gill all cats react differently. When I had my three one came round as if there had never been a GA and the other two wobbled and slept on and off for a few hours. Think about when we have one and how we feel afterwards, it is a bit shock to the system. Also the painkillers may make Franta sleepy. Hope there is a big improvement this morning.
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Sorry Gill, fell asleep on the sofa and only just woke up again. :doh:
Hope Franta is feeling better this morning. Have they given you a syringe to help feed him or to give him liquids.
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Hope he is feeling better today, but if he was on a drip so long, not eating or drinking last night wouldnt have been an issue, I have only had one cat that needed a further boost after a dental, all the others have been fine, but if he has one small kidney, it will take his body longer to process the anaesthetic - if you are still concerned today, do ring the vet back
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Gill, how's our little blue eyed man this morning?
Don't be feeling guilty. If this treatment hadn't been done, it would end up being a much bigger job in the long term, which wouldn't be good for a more mature gent like he is. :hug: :hug: he'll forgive you once he's up and about again - he loves his Mum! You're the source of all his cuddles. Paddy sends his very best, and hope to hear from you later. :hug: :hug:
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Sorry I went to bed Gill :(
Second what Sue says. You had the dental done coz he needed it but natural for you to be second guessing yourself while he's recovering :hug: Very unlikely that Franta in pain if he's had the metacam jab. I'm quite sure it lasts at least 24 hours and, in injection form, kicks in really quickly. Prob don't want to overdo the metacam in case he has any kidney ishoos?
I do hope he's more himself this morning. I know you said your vet wasn't on duty today but I'm sure she's not the only one there to offer advice today if you need it. Have to say I took the easy way out when it came to giving Freddie his anti biotics and brought him to vets for VNs to do it coz I could bear to think I'd hurt him. But Freddie had virtually all his teeth removed and Franta's only had a couple and a few little ones. Taking his ABs is though I assume important coz of bacteria in the mouth area. Also have you picked up some of that AD stuff for the lovely boy? He doesn't need to eat much of it coz it's so nutritious. Freddie was quite down for about 3 to 4 days but he had a lot more teeth out.
Good cuddly vibes to the man of the moment :cuddle:
btw sending blood tests away a good thing as more reliable than in house I think.
Hope your back giving you less hassle today and hope you finally managed to get some sleep as you need to look after yourself so you can administer to the patient :hug:
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Gill do hope Franta was alright during the night :hug: Sorry I flaked out :(
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I'm only just catching up with this thread, kindof looks like everyone has said what I was going to but thought I'd add a few things.
The metacam is a 24 hour painkiller, but if you are worried that Franta is in pain when it is starting to wear off, I'm sure the vet would be able to help. I know when we got Caspers metacam, our vet said it was very important not to exceed the once a day dose no matter what.
Hope Franta is feeling better today!
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Mornin Gilly, how's our boy Franta doing today? :hug:
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Hi Gill, hows Franta doing now...any better? Did you manage a quick nap at all :tired:
hopefully he's had something to drink, which will help his poor throat a bit...oh dear bless him, poor love :Luv:
At least you can now get hold of a reasonable vet (not them :censored: at Vets Now) and get some advice :)
If your Sciatica's giving you too much gyp, perhaps they can be persauded (sp) to do a home visit?
Fingers crossed x
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Thanks for messages all.
Am waiting for a vet to ring me cos although he is up and can walk around now , he still isnt very good and not eating or drinking.
No chance that they will come to me cos its a nearly 50 mile round trip and my back is not good eiether.
I have tried AD diet with him this morning and he was interested but maybe had a tiny lick and that was it. He went down to his big bucket of rain water but again he didnt really drink, He tried some grass but didnt have any, and think that says he is feeling too sick to eat but grass would help him in his little mind cos would make him sick amnd therefore better.
Franta is not a purry cat but think he is trying to purr, another sign that he is trying to comfort himself. He still making all these little noises that he was last night and now has just sorta turned to doze.
Its an hour since I rang and I told them I wanted to bring him in this morning but have an hours journey and they now close in 30 mins......well the appointments grrrrrrrrrrrr
Just gonna ring them again.
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Poor old Franta - if his tummy is feeling a bit delicate and his mouth is sore he probably doesnt feel much like breakfast! He sounds better than he did last night - hopefully he will continue to pick up through the day xx :hug:
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poor Franta, hope he starts to perk up soon
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Awww, his mouth will be sore Gill. He wasn't interested in the AD food? Can you get hold of liquivite? S'worth a try!
Sending you a big hug. :hug: And Franta too.
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Just spoke to the vet and he is gonna collar the vet who did the op when she comes in cos she has not had time to write stuff up in frantas notes. I have an appointment for 1600 today if he is not improving and aslo depends on what antibiotics he was given.
Richard thinks it will be a 48 hr one but I dont think so cos Rachel was talking about getting antibiotics into him today.
Richard thinks he will improve during the day and says a lot of this is down to his age but if I am worried any more , just to take him in. I have to ring in between 1400 and 1500.
He says that because of the drip , him not drinking is no problem because he will get flooded and he is also not concerned about him not eating yet.
He thinks all the symptoms he has are down to the GA and that he is probably feeling very nauseus sick.
I think probably because of the anti biotics, he may have to go back this afternoon.
He is headbutting now but I think his little throat is so dry and he just gave a kittle cough like he is trying to clear it.
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aww, bless his little headbutts :Luv2:
hope he starts picking up today Gill x
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Just caught up on this thread now Gill.... :hug: bless little Franta Gill. I hope its just a reaction to the GA, most likely is and he is just making you feel as guilty as possible for his day out at the v.e.t.s!!! ;) :hug:
Let us know how the wee man is doing I'm sure he'll be fine once things settle :hug:
Hope you too are feeling better today and your back isn't giving you as much jip! :hug: to you and Franta boy :hug:
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OOOOooo Franta, you beautiful boy. You're a brave little soldja. :hug: :hug:
Gill, Paddy does that when he's been for a dental - eats grass to make himself sick. I know Pad's generally had very light anaestehtics previously because of his risk factors, so has won round perhaps quicker than Franta this time, but I suspect he may begin to pick up a bit more by tonight. However, I agree if you're worried then give the vet another call.
I so wish you lived in that little house near us, 'cos then we could run you to the vet. :hug: :hug:
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Come on Franta try and eat and drink a little for meowmy,shes worried about you :hug:
Gill you need to keep your strength up too so make sure you eat and sleep also ok? :hug:
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:hug: to you both hun.
Gotta be a big thing for him at his age to go through and it must take a few days for him to start to feell better. Try not to worry too much hun, I know it's very hard not to :hug: :hug:
Give him a cuggle (a gentle cuddle) from us all
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Ahhh poor little man .... good news that he is up and about this morning and hopefully he will continue to improve during the day.
Big hugs to you both xxxxx :hug:
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Thank you all :hug:
He has been out to try and eat grass again and is trying to purr.......he is on his cushion again.
Yes think he is feeling sick.
Just taken some more painkillers for back grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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I hope he is just feeling a bit sick after the GA Gill, hopefully as that wears off he'll feel a bit more lively and want to eat something.
Make sure you look after yourself too hun, and hope your back is feeling less sore once the painkillers have kicked in :hug:
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Love and healing vibes for the lovely Franta- I hope you feel all better soon sweetheart xxx
Big :hug:for you Gill - I hope your back gets better soon Hun xxx
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Glad Franta has picked up a bit. His throat may be irritable after all the tubes were put in during op. This is what happened to Archie after one of his ops. :hug:
Thinking about you both :hug:
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:hug: :hug: for you and Franta. When you're feeling well below parr yourself and have the additional worry about what might be wrong with his kidneys its no wonder you are worried out of your mind about him but I'm sure his reaction is just normal for the work he has had done. Hope he shows signs of improvement soon and the vets can put your mind at rest without you having to drive back out there. If they don't need to see him again and he doesn't need the antibiotics till tomorrow it might be worth asking if they can post them to you.
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your back's probably flared up from the tension. Hope it's better soon Gill. I'm sure the GA has made him feel yuk and hope that it wears off fast :hug:
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Hope Franta is improving and feeling like eating something now :hug:
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No he still hasnt eaten although I ..........stopped by terrible noise from next door, drilling into wall at deafening level and then two lots going at same time.................I am so stredssed shaking!
franta has just meowed for the fist time and done a lot of stretching and cleaned his eyes.
I now have to ring the vet cos he said Antibiuotics are important so if he hasnt had the two day one he is gonna have to go back.
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We all gonna be nervous wrecks today methinks! :hug:
If they post the antibiots today first class as Carol mentioned, you can start them first thing tomorrow, that shoulld be alright I would have thought?
Stretching and cleaning sounds good :)
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Just rang vets, he said to ring at this time and wasnt there!!
Anyway she rang him at home and rang me back and Franta is on long acting antibiotic so will be Ok until tomorrow and we have moved hois appointment from late afternoon to 1100.
Prob is Gillian I have no way getting antibiotics into him cos wont let me near mouth and he is not eating or drinking.
he seems to be getting more active now and has got offf the desk again so I think my little man is coming back ;D
Just the question of how I can get him to eat now and gonna start a new thread for this.
I so appreciate all the support and yes Gillian nervous wreck fits me!
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he seems to be getting more active now and has got offf the desk again so I think my little man is coming back ;D
Good on yer Franta - now why not have a little something to eat and maybe your meowmy might join you. I'm right aren't I Gill - you're not eating properly either are you?
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Ummmmm yes you are right lol
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Maybe if you eat something, Franta will play follow-my-leader ;) :)
Seriously though, its great that he's a bit more active now, and that you haven't got to get to the vets again today :hug:
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Royal Canin Recovery or Hills A/D made really runny by lots of stirring and adding a tiny drop of tuna water to make it even stinkier or warming it up might encourage him and will be nice and gentle on his mouth if it's very sore.
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yes am pleased and just going to look for some food.
His right eye is swollen and think thats why he cant close it properly....a bit of conjunctiviteous but hope it willbe gone tomorrow.
Worry worry worry :shify:
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Gld to hear he's up an about a bit more - now maybe you an he could share a tin of tuna????? ;)
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c-h-o-cs for you I think and something soft and enticingly stinky for him! That long acting antibiotic is a regular round here and seems to work quite well actually - much better than pills. Hope all goes well for you both now and your nerves. Know just how it feels :hug:
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Eat something fishy near him,he'll soon come pawing for some food I bet,well mine would :evillaugh:
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I tried the Ad diet and didnt add tuna water but just water and not interested at all but still have a virtually full can in fridge so will try again later.
I am just so tired :-[
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try and get some rest Gill... Franta will pick up on your anxiety too hun :hug: although I know its easier said than done.
As others have said the long acting a/b is pretty good stuff.
something smelly and or smelly and warmed up is always a good bet to try, fish, chicken etc. Our old boy Sandy that had his dental a few weeks back and had us worrying played a similar not eating trick until we put down a sachet of whiskas oh so fishy.... didn't last long! :)
Just gotta hit that right drool note with them? Come on Franta mummy is worrying... think you've made her feel guilty enough!
big :hug: :hug: to you both. Hope your back is feeling better Gill xx
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definitely get some rest, Gill. You can't look after Franta if you don't look after you. Hope she gets better soon :hug:
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Yes you both are very wise . :thanks: And I am kinda resting now, well watching out for fireworks cos of the other cats but think all is under control ;D
But yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss he has had a little drink of water and half a tablespoon of AD mixed with water ;D ;D ;D ;D
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glad Franta is starting to pick up Gill :), hope your back improves soon too x
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Thank god Frantas finally eating...I was worrying as well after our chat :scared:
Hope you've had something to eat as well, now the worst of the worry is over it's time for you to take care of yourself....
Good luck at the vet tomorrow :hug:
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Good luck for today Gill. Am hoping you won't need to go back to the vet and that franta will have picked up enormously. However, if that's not quite the case then am adding enormous cuddles to this post for you both :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :cuddle: :cuddle:
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Good luck from me too Gill xx
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Hope Franta is much better today and doesn't need the vet. If vet visit needed hope it goes well :hug:
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How's our boy today hun? :hug:
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hope all's going much better with you both today :hug:
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Hope you and Franta are feeling much better and are we fed this morning! :)
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:hug: :hug: One for you and one for Franta. Glad he had a little to eat and hope you got some rest.
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Thinking of you and Franta today, Gill, hope everything goes okay :hug: :hug:
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Thanks all, I do so appreciate the support ;D
We have just got back from vet and my head is hurting after 40 miles of meowing!
He has had another antibiotic injection and she says hi mouth is not asd bad as it was but must still be painful cos he shouted at her when she was trying to look. His eye seems much better today and she thinks that he may have a dodgy tear duct that coped most of time but coudlt cope with all the lubricant they put in while he was under GA.
In fact he was a very angry cat and didnt stop shouting most of the time.....I think he was taking his revenge out on her and did managed to scratch her! He managed to escape off the table and was trying to get back in his carrier, all in all he just didnt want to be there! Neither did I!
The test results should be back tomorow but he has to go back on Monday anyway.
They found the antibiotic box in the car park but not till this morning, and it had been run over, squashed and rained upon. She thinks it must have got caught up in one of the staff car wheels.
She has given me some powdered cat milk for him and some biscuits for him to try and they had just sold the last tin of AD so couldnt get one of those for emergency. Lots of discussion about food to try to get him to eat better but he still hadnt lost weight.
Unllike Richard yesterday she was concerned that he ate nothing until late yesterday and he definately doesnt like the felix anymore and the big cats are not keen either.
Have bought him various foods to try to tempt him over the weekend.
So now I am back to being exhausted and back is sore again after driving.......sigh
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Oh poor Franta and :hug: to you.
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At least that solves the mystery of the antibiotics, so even if you feel sore, you are not going crazy as well. :Luv2:
Is it worth trying him on some mashed up pilchards warmed up, just to get his appetite working again. Also, mine cannot resist cooked chicken, they literally bite my fingers off and crawl over each other to get at it. I get the ready cooked from the cold meat cabinet in the supermarket.
At least he must be feeling slightly better to put up such a fight in the vets, that's got to be progress.
Don't stress yourself out too much Gill, Franta will sense it as well, though I know it's easier said than done.
Lots of :hug: :hug: :hug: to both of you.
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Thanks for the ideas Lesley ;D
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Bless him, Gill - am not surprised he was vocal about his experiences :hug: :hug: Bet neither of you are looking forward to going back on Monday. Hope now though he'll pick up quickly and be demanding cuddles again very soon. I know what you mean about tempting his appetite - also know it's nothing new to you because of Kocka, but fingers crossed he'll have more of an appetite by tonight. :hug:
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Sorry Gill, only now able to catch up on our boy.
Has he eaten any "significant" amount today yet and have you for that matter? I really don't like checking your "last posts of this person" coz feel like I'm stalking ya for info but seem to keep doing it all the same. Hope you don't mind :innocent: Promise to stop when I know the boy is back on all 4 paws. BIG BIG :hug: to the lovely lad :Luv:
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On vets advice bought a little tin of gourmet pearl gold ocean fish pate....cant afford that very often LOL.
He has had some of that and found it really nice but it was sorta clogging up his mouth I think cos of all the licking he was doing. I have put the rest back in the tin for another go later. He has also eaten some of the course pate that felix do in trays but think they have changed that too so not as nice as the lot I gave him before.
All in all he is eating slightly better but still not enough. I must also try the cat milk that the vet gave me for him, its powdered and only enough for two sevings but may tryb to split it into 4. I reckon this is also a food.
No I dont mind you checkin ;D
Have I eaten ............ummmmmmmmm ummmmmmmmmmmm ummmmmmmmmmm not a lot lol but just going.....really :shify:
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It was the smell of that Gourmet fishy stuff that out you off wasnt it!! :evillaugh:
Glad Franta is on the up - now make sure you look after yourself! :hug:
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Glad to hear Franta has eaten, keep it up little man
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so glad to hear Franta has enjoyed a little food Gill, hopefully better each day now xx
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Glad he is eating , hope he starts picking up now :hug: :hug:
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Really Happy that Franta has eaten some food
May this be the start of the road to recovery for Franta :Luv:
Give Franta a little head rub from Misty and Me
and you remember to get some rest Gill ;)
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glad the news is better and hope you are feeling less sore and stressed too Gill.
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Am back in the office so posting the Animonda Carny today. With luck you should get it tomorrow: he might enjoy that.
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I have just taken Franta back to the vets cos he just will not eat enough, and nothing this morning. So he has had about a quarter of one of those little tins of gormet gold pate since coming back yesterday. He is also not drinking.
He is hungry and wants to eat but just wont after smelling the food.
Tried 2 different foods this morning , including macrel fillets in tomato sauce, which he loved the smell of but wouldnt touch.
I think he is feeling sick as after eating yesterday he was belching and stomach was all sorta spasming and today his stomach is spasming.
I spoke to the vet and she has his test results back and he has kidney issues but dont know any details but she is worried if he doesnt eat and drink enogh then his kidney will fail. So its likely he will be put back on a drip and she says they have ways of getting them to eat.
I am feeling very down and he is stressing out in the car now and just meows solidly all the way and then he scratches the carriers to try and get out but he doesnt want his tray oh anything. He just doesnt want to be there.
He just is not the same cat that I took in on Monday and I feel bad now for letting them do the op but I thought it would help him to eat. :(
The vet says there is no reason for him not eating now to do with his mouth and I thought the antibiotics maybe were affecting him but she says no.
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Oh Gill I'm sorry that Franta is still not eating, they can give some kind of injection can't they stimulates the appetite - I hope he starts to get better soon
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He had B12 injection before he went in for the op and it made no difference at all......I thought then that his mouth was too sore.
He is definately hungry but sniffs the food and turns his back on it.
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:hug: Gill - hopefully the vets can help him out and get his appetite going again.
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Poor little Franta. I hope they can get him eating again PDQ and that it's a matter of him having been out-of-sorts and not eating properly for a bit.
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So sorry to hear that Franta is back at the vets Gill - love, huggles and healing vibes for him xxx
Big :hug: for you Hun xxx
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Sorry to hear that Franta is still not eating, and that he's back at the vets again :(
Hope they can find something to stimulate his appetite again, and that they can give you further advice with the kidney issue as well :hug:
I know we've said it before, but do try not to worry (although I know its just about impossible)
Big headrubs to Franta, and :hug: to you, hope you're back's a bit better now xxx
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Thanks very much all ;D
I think its gonna be a long weekend without him cos he is my only little cuddlebum.
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Let me know what they say about the kidneys as well, what with all of Max's results and things coming through recently, am happy to compare notes/advice etc :hug:
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I will cos Franta is a bit of a strange case with one kidney almost not there and the stone and crystals and it helps to talkk to others .
:thanks: Clare
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Aw Gill, I see what you mean - as I only read the 2 posts in other places I didn't realise the little blue eyed charmer was so ill.
When you see him give him such a big kiss and cuddle from me and Bonnie and tell him he has to get well because Bonnie is having a party in December to celebrate being with me for 1 year and I've decided that it can be her birthday too as she was 10 when I got her and don't know when her birthday is.
:ahh: :get well: :best 2: :lick: :cuddle:
Mary and Bonnie xxx
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Sorry to hear Franta is still having problems, Gill. Will be thinking of you both over the weekend. :hug: :hug:
I'm sure though you hate being apart from him, he is in the best place at the moment.
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The vet has just rung and Franta has eaten loads and then been massively sick with a giant furball in it, Also has pooed every where and he is in a real mess.
They had given him valium cos it helps them to eat and thinks and I agree, that its the furball thats been causing the problem. I had told her that the first thing he tried to do once out in the garden again after the op, was to eat grass, so felt that he wasnt feeling good and he was trying to make himself sick.
Of course GAs also make them constipated so both ends have now been cleared.
More blood has been taken and she says the results are good in that the GA has not affected his kidneys albeit one of the levels is at 12 when it should be 10......cant remember!!!!!!!!!
All in all she is happy with him but wants him to stay in overnight and probably until Monday, cos We already have an appointment and it will save me and Franta going backwards and forwards again.
She said they havent cleaned his trousers yet but they will sort him out shortly.....think they are waiting to see if he has another outburst!
I have to ring in before 1200 tomorow to see how he is and they wont be giving him any more valium today but will give him some more food later. He ate kd and kidney biscuits in large quantitys so that sounds very good, as long as the valium hasnt just made him eat anything!
Feeling relieved a bit now and he is in the right place to be watched over and pampered cos I think they quite like him but already have found out about his shouty little ways ;D
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Poor Franta, hope he starts to perk up soon :care:
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Oh Gill, that is good news, I am so pleased ;D
Poor Franta he doesnt like mucky trousers :hug:
Sounds like he is over the worse now ;D
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That's a big relief :) (not least for Franta, I'm sure). Good news.
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you get it out Franta, there's a good lad xxxxxxxxxxx
Mary and Bonnie xxxx
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I'm really pleased he's eating and fingers crossed he perks up now he's cleared both ends of himself!
The Team are sending him a massive group hug about his messy trousers :grouphug:
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Yay, good boy Franta :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
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Thank you, thank you ;D
I hope they clean him up quickly cos he wont like his smart trousers being in a mess .
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That sounds more positive Gill :hug:
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Ahh, poor boy - cats do not like dirty trousers , esp. persians !
So pleased he is eating and got everything out that needed to come out !!
Hope he is home and fit and well on Monday .
:hug: :hug: to Frants
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Better out than in Franta.....................tho it is very undignified having dirty trousies!!!!! :evillaugh:
So glad he seems to be on the up" :Luv2:
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So gald there has been a breakthrough :evillaugh: Maybe you can get a bit of rest now and a good meal.
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Just had a sandwich which was lovely................probably cos I starving :rofl: :rofl:
I do feel so relieved and aI bet Franta does too :rofl: :rofl:
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I'm sorry to hear the poor lad has been so poorly and that he has to spend the weekend at the vets :( When Mosi gets a furball he goes off his food, so fingers crossed that he will get back to eating normally now that he's got rid of that!
I'm keeping everything crossed that his kidney issues aren't serious and that he is home with you soon :hug:
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Poor Franta, hopefully the vet can sort it out quickly.
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Poor Franta :( must have been feeling rotten bless him but I'm so glad that he's getting sorted now :hug:
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Beavis always goes off his dinner when he has a furball. He also gets more vocal as if he expects me to sort it out! :-:
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Thank you on behalf of Franta ;D
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Gill, so pleased things are improving for Franta and hope he is home soon.
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Thinking about this handsome chap alot. Very much hope Franta can come home today Gill. I can imagine how much worry you will be going thru till he's home safe, sound and eating properly. Hope you slept OK last night. :hug:
Oh dear on rereading your post I see you said vet suggested he probably stay in till Monday. Can see that trips to and from vet a pain (quite literally with your back) but also very unsettling for Franta perhaps?
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Have just rung vets and am waiting for the vet to ring me back.
Franta will not be coming home before Monday and am a little concerned about him again cos the nurse said he was alright at the moment! He is still on a drip and being medicated so sounds like he hasnt been alright during the night.
Poor little man and he was bloomin fine before the op, although that furball may have been lodged which caused him to eat less grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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The drip will be just to get fluids into him which he will need if he's not been eating then has had the runs and vomited. They probably just want to monitor him since they've got him there, and the alternative would mean him travelling back and forth :hug:
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I hope so :thanks:
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The vet last night talked of putting Jaffa on a drip to help get fluids in him and encourage him to urinate. I think it's fairly normal, esp with older cats, to put them on a drip when they're hospitallized. Cats so often won't eat or drink when they're in a strange place.
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Vet has just rung and he says Franta needs to stay on the drip over the weekend and has had a little food during night and this morning but not to worry cos he is doing OK.
He reckons that furball may have had to be surgucally removed if Franta hadnt brought it up!!
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He reckons that furball may have had to be surgucally removed if Franta hadnt brought it up!!
blimey - must have been a big 'un!
I'm glad he's ok. Stressful though it must be for him, he's probably getting familiar with the people and smells now and will be fine there over the weekend.
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I have a theory that bringing up a sizeable hairball leaves a cat with a sore throat (or oesophagus maybe). That would put him off his food. :hug:
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Operate to get afurball out - must've been massive - you sure you've not got a cat missing Gill :rofl: :Luv2:
So glad he's picking up. Sounds like he's in the right place for them to monitor his eating and drinking and giving him the drip when needed.
Bet mIia and Sasa are getting loads of cuddles from you - they will keep you going..
Fingers and paws crossed.
Love Mary and Bonnie. xxxx
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Thanks ;D
Actually they are nowhere to be seen and Ducha is upstairs as usual............none of them miss him, only me :(
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They do, but they are not showing it cos they don't want to worry you. And we all certainly miss him. :Luv2: :hug:
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he must feel much better now and he'll soon be home again :hug:
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So pleased Franta is on the mend :hug:
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Gill, I know so muich how you feel about this - you take in a relatively happy cat, and end up feeling you've exacerbated the underlying situation.
Am sending Franta a big PPPprrrrffffpppt from his mate Paddy and a gentle ear tug from me. :hug: :hug:
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Yes Sue you are so right and I feel guilty about destroying his happy little self.
Thanks to Paddy and you ;D
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Thing is Gill, we're in a no win situation - don't take them in, and they suffer. Take them in and they suffer in a different way. No good answer..... :hug: :hug:
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Yes thats true ......sigh
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So glad to hear Franta is doing better! :hug:
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Fingers crossed he will be fine to come home on Mon Gill, you had no option but to do the dental, as dodgy teeth can affect kidneys, so he would have been even poorlier if left. IT is normal for them to be on drips, and at least he has eaten while there, so his mouth is feeling better.
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Yes Sue you are so right and I feel guilty about destroying his happy little self.
But he will soon bounce back and I'm sure he will feel better without that humoungous furball! :hug:
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Yes I do hope so Gillian :hug:
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Awww, don't feel bad Gill, Franta needed to have the dental, and I'm sure he'll bounce right back very soon :hug:
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Just popping by to send best of good vibes to you and Franta Gill. Gillian is right about the hairball. He may not have been able to get rid of it on his own and it's good that you didn't leave things over the weekend as it could have been an emergency which is not good at Franta's age.
Healing headbutts to that gorgeous fella :Luv:
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Fingers crossed he will be fine to come home on Mon Gill, you had no option but to do the dental, as dodgy teeth can affect kidneys, so he would have been even poorlier if left. IT is normal for them to be on drips, and at least he has eaten while there, so his mouth is feeling better.
Desley is right we had Byron's all removed when we first got her (at 22) as they were upsetting her tummy and she has been much better since. Also our Squeaky unfortunately couldn't have his removed as he had a bad heart and we think his teeth made him very poorly.
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Hope Franta continues to do well and is home where he belongs soon :hug:
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Hope Franta comes back home tomorrow! :hug:
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Fingers crossed that 'ol blue eyes can come home tomorrow! :Luv:
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Gill, me and Paddy have got everything crossed for Franta to come home today. We want ole blue eyes back, so can just imagine how you're feeling. :hug: :hug:
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Hope Frant is feeling much better and ready to come home today :hug:
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Fingers and toes crossed here too that he can come home today :hug:
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Please,please Mr Vet can Franta come home today :wish: :wish:
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C'mon Franta - your mum needs you back at home. :hug: to Gill.
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Just come home with Franta ;D ;D ;D ;D
He has not been a good patient and as I walked into the vets I could hear him shouting and he started all the other cats off!
He is still not eating well apparently but Rachel wants him to come home cos she thinks he is so stressed by being there this is not helping. There is no medical reason for him not eating that they know of and if he will not eat at home, they will have to give him more valium to try and kick start him.
She showed mr the fur ball he brought up on Friday :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: For him that was small :shify:
He doent really have kidney problems but just one kidney that probably doesnt work much but he does need to drink more to keep hydrated.
They are gonna send the xrays to Bristol for advice but then that will have to be weighed against his age, his breed and the effect of GA etc.
At present there apparently is no reason to be concerned but if the other kidney starts to deteriate we will have to deal with that. She says if it does it will go in stages, so just not bang and failure.
I have told her we must do what is right for Franta bearing in mind his age and I wouldnt want for a major procedure to happen if this is gonna cause so many bad effects , it out weighs the good and she agrees. She also is now aware of his little mentality and what a little horror he can be LOL
This morning in his temper he has wrecked his cage, tipped his water bowl over, and his food and his litter tray and was just endlessly shouting. He didnt want to be there and made that very clear. He shouted and scratched his carrier all the way home and has gone outside straightaway to check his garden and assert his independence.
We go back on Thursday unless I am 100% happy with him but if there is aproblem before that he is to go straight back.
I think he still has a fur ball cos he was trying to be sick out side.
So now I just watch and wait and hope he will bloomin eat!
I am however so please to have his blue lookin peepers gazing at me agian and have him home.....Misa doesnt agree :rofl: :rofl:
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Oh Gill, am so glad you got your big Baby Boy back! ;D And I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh, but I can just imagine his language - "I Wanna go home - hey - yoo listenin out there? Anybody? I want me Muuuuuummm!!! I bin here days - days, you hear? Like a Priznur. Not nice fud, dunt wanno water.. (kick, scuff) Lemmeeeooowt! " :mad2: Muuuuuuum!!!! :car:
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Yes Sue :rofl: :rofl:
Actually I think his language may have had a few :censored: words too...............he was very angry ;D
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:evillaugh: How can someone so innocent looking be so naughty.
So glad he's home. Now Mr Franta start eating properly or the cats army will be called!!
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:evillaugh: Knowing full well what a p*ssed off birman sounds like I feel quite sorry for the vets!
Gla Mr Frabta is home where he belongs! :Luv2:
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So pleased he's home again hun :Luv:
Hopefully he'll be much more relaxed now he's back with you and start eating properly :hug:
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So pleased to hear that he is home Gill. Have you tried him with katalax to see if that helps with any remaining furballs or the "De-furr-Um past, Forest loves that and will lick that up before eating anything else. :rofl:
Hope his appetite will improve now he is home again. :hug:
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Well Mr blue eyes - we still think you are adorable. Please eat what your mum gives you Franta or you'lll have to go shout and scream again. :evillaugh: :rofl: :Luv2:
WELCOME HOME FRANTA.
Lots of love Bonnie and Mary xxxx
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glad he is back Gill, hope he starts eating soon - wouldn't it be typical if he just fancied something you weren't offering!
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Glad Franta is home again ;D
Also glad he is still full of cattitude :evillaugh:
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Nice to know someone else has cats that wreck vets surgeries when they feel they have been there way to long! Welcome home Franta :Luv2:
The only advice I can give is to try human food, kitten food or anything else you can think of we have used all the above techniques with the fur kids and some work for each one but not all the same and try 10 seconds in the micro wave to warm the food through also try cat milk not the best thing but its liquid and has some calories I know Sweetie would only eat that and Purina biscuits when she came home from having 3 teeth removed at 16 and Miss Gracie was similar except she was a kitten foos and milk addict at 19 when she had her remaining teeth pulled.
Clio A Feral aged 9 lost 5 teeth last week and duly ignored all the nice soft food and crunched biscuits within 20 mins of coming home!
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I do not think Franta has eaten since he came home, just slept.
I tried cat milk last week Liz, the vet gave me some and he just sniffed and walked away, as did the big cats!
None of mine will eat defurrum or catalax and if i put it on their legs they leave it their and you know what happens then!!
I am hoping that he will be hungry later and the problem is if he refuses to eat then he will have to go back, they will pump valium into him which apparently makes them go for the food dish and eat everything in sight and then he had a massive accident from both ends.
He had only just come off the drip before I brought him home and he has been on one ever since Friday but he really wasnt eating at the vets they said!
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Smudge used to love gravy - how about trying him with that Gill, he will only have to lick it up, no chewing (unless you do lumpy gravy!!) :naughty: Or some fish boiled in milk.
Come on Franta - frame yourself my young man. :hug: :Luv2:
Mary and Bonnie :hug:
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I reckon I need a chef Mary LOL
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:yayyy: Glad he's home :yayyy: :rofl: at his antics at the surgery ;D
C'mon Franta - eat something! anything!
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I do not think Franta has eaten since he came home, just slept.
He had only just come off the drip before I brought him home and he has been on one ever since Friday but he really wasnt eating at the vets they said!
Its good that he's slept Gill, he's recharching his batteries! Has he eaten anything yet?
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He is tired out after his wrecking spree :rofl: :rofl:
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No he has not eaten anything at all and is fast asleep.
I wonder when I should be worried.
I think he must have been stressed all weekend and thats exhausting I am sure.
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Really hope Franta has a lovely long sleep and then wakes up really hungry and starts eating - poor boy, its taken it out of him all the stressing at the vets .
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Hope he had a good sleep and is feeling much better today
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Sleep is good Gill - it will help to relax and heal him because he probably hasn't slept properly while he was away - strange smells, strange place, not feeling great.... Am sending big tummy rubs for Ole Blue Eyes this morning and Paddy sends a gentle whiskery PPprrfffffpt to his mate. :hug:
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Fingers crossed he starts eating today. It might be worth trying Whiskas cat milk rather than the stuff from the vets, he might prefer the taste.
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Both my cats just love that milk and the Felix one I think it's really built Schui up since he was poorly.
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have to say, I tend to use PAH purely cos it is normally on offer so cheaper. I must give some to Jeannie tonight.
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:evillaugh: How can someone so innocent looking be so naughty.
So glad he's home. Now Mr Franta start eating properly or the cats army will be called!!
Indeed and thats an order :shify:
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Gill, to put it plainly - HE IS KNACKERED!!!! :rofl: :Luv2: You would be if you'd been on a riot like he did in the vet :rofl:
Hope he's up and eating now though. :Luv2: :hug:
Mary and Bonnie xx
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How's our boy Gill?
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hope franta is feeling much better Gill... andyou too! :hug:
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Well, he has has some jelly off the food, a biscuit or two and he now refers the kd ones!! :rofl: :rofl:
So has had two small lots of jelly and a couple of biscuits but he wanted to eat and was shouting, so thats better than before. He needs to eat loads more but I reckon as he de-stresses he will :shify: :shify:
Tonight he can have roast chicken if he likes, cos bought one on my galivant to Cardiff today.
All that rain and the bowl only cought about a bloomin inch!!
He is currently up on the desk watching the door....prob been aslepp all day LOL but I reckon once ABs get out of his system that will also help.
He obviouslt was also causing trouble with his drip at the vet cos it looks like they had to actually sticj the tube to his leg! He hasa a tiny bit of plaster stuck to hios leg which Rachel said he wouldnt let her get off and I cant, it seems stuck fast to his skin......any ideas how to get it off?
Spoke too soon he is back on his cushion by radiator!
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So glad he is eating and moving around a lot by the sound of it. Make sure he stays de-stressed. :Luv2:
Bet you are feeling tonnes better too, hope so. :hug:
RE: Plaster - if it was a human I would suggest vasaline or olive oil but with a cat......... not sure, maybe just some warm water and try scrapig it off with your finger nails. Good luck.
Mary and Bonnie xx
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;D Gill, am so pleased he sounds like he's feeling a lot better. With regard to the sticky plaster, I'd leave him be for now - just let him get used to being back home again, happy in his house and doing what he loves doing. :hug: :hug:
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Glad hes fianlly eaten something.................................lets hope his appetite kickstarts now! ;D
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My nanna sends pouches every so often for the cats, there was a single sale felix chicken pouch in the selection this time round that is different to the multipack ones, a clear jelly not hard and cloudy, may be worth trying them for him.
If its a small piece of tape on his hair i would carefully snip it off with small round ended facial scissors.
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no mm its actually stuck to his skin where they shaved it.
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My nanna sends pouches every so often for the cats, there was a single sale felix chicken pouch in the selection this time round that is different to the multipack ones, a clear jelly not hard and cloudy, may be worth trying them for him.
If its a small piece of tape on his hair i would carefully snip it off with small round ended facial scissors.
It's the same with Whiskas. Clapton and Alice love the singles but when I bought a poultry multipack, they wouldn't touch he chicken ones :Crazy:
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Some more jelly eaten and a few biscuits!
3 out of 4 cats ate roast chicken.............guess which one wouldnt!
I think he has got to relearn to eat!
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I think he wants a menu and silver service! :evillaugh:
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Probably ............sigh
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Oh Gill..... :hug: Pad turned his nose up at a nice bit of sirloin last night, cut up into tiny morsels. I do sympathise. :hug: Sending a big hug for Ole Blue Eyes this morning, and hoping he decides he wants a hearty breakfast. :cuddle:
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Come on Franta honey, you need to get gobbling :Luv:
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pleased to hear that Franta is doing a bit better Gill even if he is still giving you a bit of a run around with food!!! bless his little cotton socks!! mmm
Re the tape... leave it be just now to save stressing him out... it will come off and is bound to lose tack-i-ness over the next few days. If its not bothering him just keep an eye on it for now til he's feeling better! :)
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He has licked the jelly off a felix pouch and had a few kd bisciurts. Then he came to me shouting about half an hour ago, so I decided maybe he wants food and have opened one of the tins that Christine kindly sent, which look very nice inside and smells rather delicious.
He has now had a little bit of this and obviously likes the smell. When he eats anything that is not just jelly licking he seems to spend a lot of time licking round inside his mouth.....maybe he i still not sure about his mouth or wonder if its still hurting.
Dont think it should be but I am sure he is hungry.
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I suppose it's like when we've been to the dentist and we keep moving our tongues around in our mouths for weeks after cos something is different. I had a tooth out ages ago and I still put my tongue in the space.
I think you should get in touch with Gordon Ramsay and see what he suggests :rofl: :naughty:
Come on Franta eat, drink and be merry my little blue eyed boy.
Lots of love Bonnie and Mary
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my cats did that for a while too at first, sort of sticking their tongues out and round their mouths when they were licking their food - just the strangeness I would think.
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I am pleased to hear this thanks, cos thats just what he is doing.
Well when he is not sleeping!
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He has now had a little bit of this and obviously likes the smell. When he eats anything that is not just jelly licking he seems to spend a lot of time licking round inside his mouth.....maybe he i still not sure about his mouth or wonder if its still hurting.
Blip's mouth was sore for a week or so after her dental. I agree about the feeling of strangeness too. Hope he eats some more of the Animonda - if he likes it, I reckon it's a good-quality yet very affordable option.
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I hope he does too but not sure whether I will be able to tolerate the smell.........it making me feel hungry :rofl: :rofl:
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I was hoping not to have to take Franta back to the vets today but Rachel purrrrrsuaded me that he really needed to go.......sigh
She is not happy with the amount of food he is eating and very concerned about the good kidney if he doesnt have more antibiotics, she is worried with the little food this could cause liver problems.
So he has had another antibiotic injection but also injections of valium to try and kick start him eating again. Because he was so hyper last time she gave him a very small dose but he just wanted to leave and had no interest in any of the 3 sorts of food and spring water.
So he had to have another valium injection but still took him a long time to eat and had some ad mixed with water and eventually licked the gravy off a renal pouch, he had licked jelly of a felix pouch before he went.
The idea was for me to stay with him while he ate,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,all the shouting he did was...ummmmmmmm noisy! Then she wanted me to leave him for about an hour to let him sttle down and get over the wobbles that valium gave him.
So was waiting to get his liquid pain killer for the next couple of days incase his mouth is sore and he was shouting the place down, went back to see him and he was on his back legs rattling the cage door, so decided to bring him home.
Forgot to pick up some more kd biscuits grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and know that 2 mils of this liquid pain killer has cost £35 so dread to think what his bill is gonna be. Have given her back the antbiotics so hope they will be taken off the bill, but have a couple of tins of AD diet for him too.
In theory he should not have to go back, unless he will not eat or drink, in which case he will have to be admitted again! I have to ring her tomorrow to tell how he is getting on.
His xrays are off to Bristol for advice but could be a couple of weeks before they come back to the vets.
Now need to get some kd biscuits from somewhere, presumably if they are kd, they must be Hills? He is eating a few of them at a time in preference to his purina.
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Oh poor little soul! :hug: :hug: :hug: I bet he shouted. Too right he shouted. "I wanna gooooo hoooooome! Nooooowww!!!"
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Oh Gill, I've just got upset reading about Jameson and now Franta - hope the valium does him good and he starts eating and fingers crossed for the xrays. Bonnie's having a party on 15th December so he had better be strong enough by then. :Luv2:
Love Mary and Bonniexx
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Hope this latest visit will kick-start Franta eating properly, come on our blue eyed boy :Luv2: :Luv2:
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Hope the meds get him eating properly again :hug: does he go for smelly food - like hi life fishy stuff etc?
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No he doesnt go for smelly stuff and will not eat anything with lumps in, nor pate type food......sigh.
So I am really stuck with him licking the jelly off the pouches and hope that he starts eating biscuits again.
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Hope he starts to eat properly soon, what a worry they are Come on Franta :hug:
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Come on Franta , you are worrying your meowmy!! :(
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so sorry you and Franta are having such a bad time. Won't he touch the minced chicken wet k/d? Yes the k/d dry is Hills. I'm amazed he likes the dry as not many cats do. Would he eat sardines or pilchards in tomato sauce? Hope he's eating better really soon. Maybe if he relaxes he will eat? I tried my 2 a few months back on a free sample of Hills J/d (senior, supposedly arthritis food) which has smaller, moister type biscuit pellets and they both enjoyed it - just a thought (doubt it is still on special 'free' offer though sadly). It's double the phosphorus of k/d but still within senior range. all the best.
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although being a cat that likes fish tastes no he wont eat real fish or chicken......sigh.
i dont know about the kd stuff you mention but they gave gave him a renal pouch which he just kicked the gravy after being given valium
he has just had a bit more jelly, the kd biscuits are smaller than his usual purina one
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Por Franta and poor you - its such a worry when they are ill and can''t tell you how they feel.
I really hope he picks up and starts to eat very soon.
Some of mine have been tempted with cooked fish or a few prawns , or a bit of cooked chicken , raw mince, tuna, - Smartie didn''t eat when i first got him , but not through illness and all i could get him to eat eventually was chicken supermeat wiskers in the tins - and thats all he still likes ( and the rabbit one and his biscuits ) he has all the jelly of the top, bottom and sides with some of the meat and the rest goes outside for other cats that come round.
I couldn''t reply earlier as i was so shocked to read about Jameson and then it set me of in tears for a while .
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Beavis like fishy things but not fish itself too - he seems to really love the new felix marinades. If Franta hasnt tried those yet maybe worth a go?? :hug:
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He has finally started eating more kd biscuits butttttttttttttttttttt I am nearly out of them and the vet doesnt have any more. I have ordereed some yesterday but they will not be here before probably Tuesday and the vet cant get them any quicker.
Sooooooooooo the main food source is now gone!!
I have some royal canin renal biscuits which i have mixed in with the others and am hoping he will eat those and if so the vet will give me some.
However they smell totally different and dont look as nice or smell as nice............I despair, all this time trying to get him to eat and now he has started cant get the only food he will eat before next week!!
Am I angry.....I am :censored: seething!
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is there another vet you can get them from?? (that may be a stupid question but I thought I'd ask!!)
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Found this source, don't know what their delivery is like but it might be worth phoning and seeing if they can get a order to you quicker.
http://www.animalmedicines.co.uk/search_results.asp?search_type=free_any&search=k/d&gclid=CMm0z9fI9JYCFRmA1QodqXugXQ
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Tried them Lesley but they dont keep in stock!
I wonder if another vet would let me have them? I was wondering, will ring the other one that I know and see.
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got to be worth a try Gill
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Another Vet should let you have some, you don't need a prescription for it.
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Just rang the other vets that took Sasa as an emergency this time last year and they have one bag that someone did not collect and I can collect that later. ;D ;D ;D
Thank you for replying both, I am so relieved and will unmix these biscuits again ;D ;D
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So pleased you found some. I was going to phone my vet to see if they had any and would have posted them to you recorded delivery. :Luv2:
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that's what I was thinking Lesley - I've got a vet next door to work!
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So Frantas all stocked up for food,what about you Gill? :shify: Hope your looking after yourself :shify:
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I was going to put an appeal out on Purrs for them but the only way of guarenteeing a delivery tomorrow of up to 100 grams was gonna cost over £10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The postage rates are just ridiculous.
Thanks for your help Lesley and Dawn :hug:
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I was going to put an appeal out on Purrs for them but the only way of guarenteeing a delivery tomorrow of up to 100 grams was gonna cost over £10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The postage rates are just ridiculous.
Thanks for your help Lesley and Dawn :hug:
It wouldn't have bothered me paying to get them to Franta, he is worth every penny. Give him a hug from Auntie Lesley and tell him he better eat his biscuits now his mummy has gone to all this effort to get them. :Luv2:
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Give him a hug from Auntie Lesley and tell him he better eat his biscuits now his mummy has gone to all this effort to get them. :Luv2:
Now the last words are the important ones LOL....he is asleep again at the moment ......sigh
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Bless him - he has tired himself out! :Luv:
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So glad you managed to get these Gill. Can't have the beautiful boy going hungry. >:( Topping up his hugs (gently...) :hug: :hug:
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What a hell of a time you are having Gill. So pleased you got the bickies for him.
Come on Franta get eating and make your mum and all of us happy. :Luv2:
Love to you both.
Mary and Bonnie xx
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so glad you found some k/d munchies. The French are nuts for RC (well it's french) but even the vets there say it's a rare cat that eats RC renal dry - yuk apparently. Hope Franta is tucking in with gusto asap x
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well after trying him with the rc renal, he has stopped eating the kd grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
He is not eating anything much cept his fur.
Have five dishes with different food s on the desk, including pilchards but he just will not eat.
Still sleeping most of the time.
Have talked to someone tonight who says that if liver starts to go , I am looking at a matter of days so that is why vet is so worried about him not eating.
Just dont know what to do for the best :(
Why wont he eat.........he seems fine but just wants to groom and sleep.
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Is there any way you can syringe some milk or liquid food into him at all?
Not sure what else to suggest hun, Max can be temperamental when he wants to be, and he doesn't want to eat, there's not much that can tempt him except fresh chicken or tuna.
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Not really and I tried chicken with him last week and he was only cat out of 4 that would not eat it.
He wont eat ad either,,,,,,,,,just seems to have forgotten that food is nice,,,,,,,or how to eat.
He was fine on Friday before I mixed thiose biscuits cos vet didnt have any....now I have them he will not touch them.
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Oh Gill I pray to God that he picks up soon. You can't both go on like this.
Give him a big kiss and cuddle from me and Bonnie and have one yourself too.
Mary and Bonnie xxxxx
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Is there any way you can syringe some milk or liquid food into him at all?
Yes I wonder if you might need to try sryinging food into him now, I had to do it with Gypsy few years ago when she was so ill with cat flu she wouldnt eat, she didnt like it but it did kickstart her appetite. Maybe you could try something like a meat baby food (you have to be careful though cos a lot of them have onions in), just a thought. :hug:
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What about porridge?
Oh Gill, please say there is something that he will eat.
Mary and Bonnie xxx
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He has just eaten a bit of pilchard.
Will have to look for some baby food......no oinions.
Its all so stupid cos apart from him lazing about all the time he doesnt seem ill.
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ALL my healing thoughts for Franta. x
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Thank you very much :hug:
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Hope Franta gets his appetite back soon x
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:shify: Franta, is me, yer pal, Paddy. Now I knows der bit 'bout dis not eatin fingie, 'coz I duz it meself sumtimes, but iz not gud fer long times ter do, see? Pleeze yoo tries sum fud fer me terday? Pleeze? :-: :shify:
Paddy. xxx
Gill, hoping you can get something inside of him. I know how frustrating this is, and how worried you are. Just a thought - and I know you've tried allsorts - what haven't you tried him with? Sometimes a bit of lateral thinking's in order, and when they've been poorly, occasionally they'll eat something they've been sniffy about previously, so perhaps look at giving him a food he doesn't normally eat. Would it be worth trying a bit of plain white fish, lightly steamed? I know you've said although he likes fishy flavours he won't normally eat fish, so could be worth a little go?
Whatever happens, am topping up the Franta hugs and hoping you have a more productive day today with him, Gill. :hug: :hug:
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one of the probs is knowing when they have eaten cos food is down all night.
he has been getting selfservice on the desk and this is now gonna stop, except for his special biscuits and water.
food was eaten during the night and he isnt really very hungry this morning but has used a tray, popped into a very wet garden, used scratcfhin post. drank a bit of water, had a couple of biscuits and a bit of jelly, so as he feels quite heavy ,,,,,,,,i am hoping he has been a piggy during the night.
he is on my knee again......where else :rofl: i feel that he maybe is takin advantage so we are gonna stick with one food back in its normal place again and in a while i am going to take him upstairs to his bro where he used to snuggle during the day but has totally ignored for the last 3 weeks.
so the idea is to stop all the pampering and get back to normal....................hope it works !
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I would be willing to bet that he is loving the attention - it is also maybe worth feeding him in a seperate room?? We have problems when we got the kittens as Beavis would let them eat all his , so we started feeding him seperaterly - he soon learned that if he wanted dinner he had better get it there and then or it would end up in Gizzys tummy.
Whe he has had what he wants we open the room up again. There are always biscuits about for them all to graze on.
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so pleased things are better. They get used to pampering very, very quickly don't they (and why not, when they're poorly) so good luck with trying to re-establish the old routines! I do all meals hand held here and (able bodied) Max tries to demand his nosh is held in front of his nose on a plate too, the minx. Battle of wits, sometimes he wins (when he sings incessantly: horrible voice) and sometimes I do....
But it all sounds positive with Franta, hope you're having lovely lapcat purrs :hug:
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COME ON FRANTA - KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK - EAT, PLAY OUT, SLEEP AND FILL YOUR TRAY. :Luv2: :Luv2:
LOVE BONNIE AND MARY XXX
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Schui used to be a tubby (before he got poorly) and we couldn't understand as he was asleep all day then realised he was munching all night ;)
When he was ill and off his food I hand-fed him which worked a treat trouble is everytime I go into the kitchen now he follows me and looks at me then his dish :naughty: he's a sweetie though :Luv2:
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I think you need to keep him in a room by himself at night Gill so you can see what he is eating, and you might find it is enough to stop you worrying. Also might be worth trying different types of bowls, in case he is suddenly being fussy about that.
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Oh Desley I agree about the bowls... I remember once when I went on holiday I used to take Smudge into my neighbours house for them to look after him and she told me that he wouldn't eat out of one of the dishes she gave him. Anything is worth a try Gill cos it was his bowls that I gave her and he'd been ok with it before.
Mary and Bonnie x
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If you decide to syringe feed dont bother with baby food use a/d, its the perfect consistancy and balanced for a poorly cat, baby food is for babies.
If you keep him in one room overnight you may get a suprise and he is eating more than you think, got to be worth a try :hug: :hug:
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thanks for all the suggestions ;D
He is starting to eat biscuits...not the right bisciuts!!...but complete food biscuits and have seen him drinking. He has used a tray indoors too and is popping into the garden every so often but weather awful here at moment.....chuckin it down.
Have just put his cat food in front of him to have a lick and he told me.........I dont want that........well tough LOL.
Actuallt think he has had a fairly good nibble at biscuits and after so long I am sure his little tummy has shrunk and he never was a big eater, so am hoping that the temperamental little man is doiing better.
He is getting his food seperate now and then the wet food goes back to its normal place whether he has eaten any of not. I wanted to shut him in bedroom with Ducha and me but he wont go near Ducha at the moment and Have you heard a birman howl when they are shut in a room!!
Seriously I am trying not to stress him out again and that will stress him badly.
He is also not as tired today it seems but he doesnt like me going out.....think he just needs to get his life back to normal now and be happy again.
Yes he has been sooooooo pampered its crazy and now he expects it iof course but I have 3 other cats and the big cats need some attention too now, especially my big boy Misa.
Of course if I am concerned about him again I will be straight onto the vets but am hoping that we maybe are coming thro the sticky bit. I would be much happier if he ate more but eating something which is a complete food is the best news.
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Sounds promising Gill, hope he continues to improve :)
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Yep , I have hd the pleasure of a howly Birman - can completely understand why he isnt shut off then!!!
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So Glad he is eating again - hopefully he will continue to puck up! :hug:
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Pleased that Franta sounds to be getting back to normal Gill :) Our Smokey was never a big eater either hardly anything apart from prawns :-: so then when they are off it they look to hardly eat anything.
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Sounds as if he's making good progress now :hug:
I fret about Dinah if she doesn't eat her wet food, convince myself she's starved all day so cook fish or something tasty...and then notice she's eaten her own bodyweight in biscuits :doh:
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Yipee, carry on the good work Franta, bet you feel like a lead weight has been taken off you Gill.
Lots of love Bonnie and Mary xxx
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If you decide to syringe feed dont bother with baby food use a/d, its the perfect consistancy and balanced for a poorly cat, baby food is for babies.
I was well aware of that MM - it was a suggestion to encourage him to eat, you know?!!
Anyway, Gill, glad he's eating a bit more now. :hug:
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So glad to hear Franta is doing better Gill. You are probably more aware of what he is eating now than what he eats normally if you know what I mean. I have been worrying that MacLaren isn't eating enough and has been losing weight but I think it is more because I am fretting over what he is eating when really he is probably eating normally. (None of that seems to make sense but I hope you get the idea ;D)
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Glad he's doing better and is eating, even if it's not a huge amount :hug:
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i do get the idea lesley ;D
i think it was a good sugestion gilliand and havent for gotten, i have ad too. ;D
he has just licked some jelly which makes stupidly happy ;D
every little lick of something seems good to me ;D
he is on my lap again lol
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Nom Nom Nom Franta, come on blue eyed boy :)
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keep licking Franta :lick: :lick: :lick: :lick: :lick: :lick: :lick: :lick: :lick: :lick: :lick: :lick: :yawn: :yawn:
Love Mary and Bonnie xx
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He ate a lot of biscuits yesterday and this morning wasnt keen on his normal felix jelly but shouted and shouted until I gave him one of the new smaller more expensive marinated ones......cod flavour! He didnt like the salmon one much..........am I being abused or taken advantage of do you think?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Erms we are called slaves for a reason??? :evillaugh:
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Oh dear, Gill - I'm afraid it does sound like Paddy's been chipping in with his two penn'orth..... that's exactly what he's like. :tired:
But - am glad he's shouting for anything. Bet you are too. :wow:
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Yes Sue I am over the moon and have started shoutin back again...getting more like normal :rofl: :rofl:
However he is taking total advantage of me!! ;D
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Good boy Franta,keep taking advantage of your mum,she'll need to set up the Franta charity soon :rofl:
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but that's what cats do Gill - they were born especially for that :evillaugh: :rofl: :Luv2:
God boy Franta
Love Bonnie and Mary xx
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Gill its called payback for removing his teeth!
Glad he is getting more back to normal but you will have to open every flavour at his behest and just keep doing it afterall thats what slaves are for!
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I think you are right Liz :rofl: :rofl:
Also I have the annoying habbit of wanting to sit on my computer chair , which has decided is his current bed!
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Glad Franta is eating now .
I had to give up my lovely newish computer chair really comfy leather with high back - to FiFi !!! She took over it as soon as i got her and i am now relegated to the small hard pine chair !
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Oh gill I know that problem, Kocka used to have this one and I wasnt allowed to sit on it, sounds the same as yours.
Franta gets moved I am afraid cos I need it more and he kies on me anyway :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Brilliant news Gill. I know how worried you were, big hugs to you and Franta x :hug:
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Winston seems to come in here a lot too when i am on the computer -trouble is he lays and tries to roll all over the keyboard so i can''t see to type anything -bit of a pain when entering competitions !- also i have to move it when i am done as occasionally he has a tendency to mark !- not on my keyboard thankyou ! :rofl:
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thanks linda ;D
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Franta just wants to be wiv his meowmy! :wow: So glad he's noshing again. :hug:
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you definately right sue....and he is on my knee and wants to cuddle up and lay his head on my typin arm :rofl: :rofl:
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Well done Franta :disco: :disco: :clap: :catlove:
Bonnie and Mary xx
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Glad he is eating again
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Good boy Franta ;D
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Well done Franta :Luv:
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Come home after being out a while and he wont bloomin eat grrrrrrr.......I hope is just sulkin :scared: :scared:
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Franta come on we need you to get well. My birthday party soon, mum will be arranging it when she get's back from Prague and the we got Christmas. :blow kiss: :pressie: :xmas 4: :yawn: :fish: :catlove: :cook: :ahh:
Love Bonnie and Mary xxxx
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Gill, we need to know how old blue eyes is getting on before I go to Prague - this was on my long list of things to do before I go on Sunday morning :rofl:
Mary :hug:
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He is eating but not enough biscuits I feel.
Because he is still eating his bloomin fur he now looks thinner but I dont think he has lost weight.
Just dont know what to try with him really cos he well not eat meat or fish and consistantly only eats jelly from food!
I really need a way of weighing him and my kitchen scales dont go high enough and when I used to have human scale it didnt register light enough.
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I really need a way of weighing him and my kitchen scales dont go high enough and when I used to have human scale it didnt register light enough.
Remind me Gill, can you pick Franta up? I get confused :shy:
If you can, then weigh yourself first, then weigh yourself holding him, and the difference is Franta's weight.
Its the only way I can do Max at home :sneaky:
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That's how I used to weigh Dragan. Might not give totally exact but you are able to tell if they are gaining or losing
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Weigh me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My prob has always been I could never see the weight from on high!
yes can pick him up cos he is a littel one ;D
Thanks I need to find somewhere with big red numbers on a scale then.............and cheap!
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Will he go in a box or a cat carrier to weigh him the way Clare suggested?
Mary
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Clare didnt mention a carrier LOL :shify: :shify: or is me thats blind :rofl: :rofl:
Think you are tired Mary, you need a little break in a foreign city :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Lol, could also try the carrier idea as an alternative :)
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Youo all think I'm stupid don't you? :-:
DON'T ANSWER THAT IF YOU WANT TO LIVE :rofl:
I meant the idea of weighing the carrier and then the carrier with Franta in it rather than weighing yourself, you weigh the carrier !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mary :Luv:
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I dont think you are stoooooooopid at all ;D
The carrier does not weigh enough to register the weight properly so the only way, once I have some scales will be to weigh me and franta.....if he stps wrigglin long enough :rofl: :rofl:
First job is to find some cheep suitable scales that II can read from a distance ;) ;)
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You do know he's laughing those lovely socks of his off don't you? We're all caring so much about him and he just sits and licks his ruddy jelly :rofl: :Luv2: :hug:
Mary
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You are soooooooooooo bloomin right :rofl: :rofl:
And he shouts at me, even made me get up this morning to put the jelly out and took two licks and came and sat by my feet meowing.
He is the most pampered cat I have ever had :shify: :shify: well almost :rofl: :rofl:.....shouts and I rush to find out what he wants this time.........and nooooo he cant have my chair again cos my back hurts ;) ;)
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http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/8321798/Trail/searchtext%3EBATHROOM+SCALES.htm
Is that dial big enough Gilly?
Not a bad price either.
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Its a good price but nooooooooo I need some big red numbers that are digital I think, cos we are maybe talking of 100grams different.......sigh
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http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/8328605/Trail/searchtext%3EBATHROOM+SCALES.htm
How about these, very big numbers?
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And very big price Gulp........cannt afford that and why in black numbers ,,.......one needs them glowing in red :rofl: :rofl:
Some how I dont see a scale being bought at that kinda price and no point buyin a cheap one that I cant read when standing on it grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Thanks for looking :hug:
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I shall make it my quest to find you some scales :evillaugh:
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/minky-Round-Electronic-Bathroom-Scale/dp/B000Y17TG8/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=kitchen&qid=1227820515&sr=8-8
What about this one?
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Or, how about speaking scales, don't need to see the display then ;) ;D
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/105560/terrallion-speaking-bathroom-scales/
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Oh Clare you are good to her. You've got me at it now. How about something like this - weigh the carrier and then carrier plus Franta.
http://www.ourweigh.co.uk/travel-leisure.html
Mary :hug:
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Thanks both.......i think one of those will be great ;D
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Totally useless from your point of view Gill, but in the old Grainger Market in Newcastle they still have an old fashioned Weigh-house, where you can go ain and get properly weighed by someone.... :-[
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I've got relations in Newcastle and I was thinking the same :rofl: :rofl: :evillaugh:
Mary
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:evillaugh: I'd be too embarrassed.
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Geordies are more daring than everyone else :evillaugh:
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my goodness, what a terrible thought :rofl: :rofl:
i dont wanna be weighed at all, very scarey :shify: :shify: :shify:
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Geordies are more daring than everyone else
We know no shame....... :shify: