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Cat General => General Cat Chat => Topic started by: bonnielass on August 15, 2008, 08:05:18 AM
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please pray for me, i have to take another cat to the vets this morning,Snuggs is mum to my missing Wizzy, she has poylips in her ears and recieves medication every 6/8 weeks but i think something has happened as she has now gone off her food (2 days ) and is very listles,her ear normally weeps but suddenly its stopped which is not a good sign,im absolutely terrified what the vet is going to tell me,i only just lost Ninja last week and Meg 4 weeks before that,plus Wizzy.i really dont think i have the strength to cope with another loss,especially Snuggs as she is my shadow and understands ecerything i tell her,shes been my confidant,comforted me when ive been sad,got into mischief and then made out it wasnt her,shes 9 yr old .
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Prayers are with you both. Let us know how you get on bonnielass x :wish:
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Fingers crossed it isnt as serious as you think.
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It may not be as scary as you fear - I certianly hope not - let us know what the vet's opinion is :hug:
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Hope the vet gives you positive news.
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my positve thoughts & vibe are with you all the way :hug: xxxx
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Keeping everything crossed for you and will brief my pudds this evening when I get home to send their most positive feline vibes in your direction.
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Leigh
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Good luck today - hoping the vet can put your mind at rest and get Snuggs eating again :hug:
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Sending prayers and positive vibes your way :hug:
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All my prayers too, will be thinking of you today :hug:
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Prayers and hugs coming your way for little Snuggs.
Mary and Bonnie.
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Positive vibes coming your way
love
Tab
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back from the vets, Snuggs has more polylips growing, some up her nose ,on her throat and round her back end,(she was bleeding a little bit at the vets ),the vet has put her on steriods and an antibiotic for the weekend to see how she goes and i have to take her back on monday, we will then decide on the next course of action,please keep your fingers crossed i can start her eating again as that will give her the strength to fight the infections caused by these polylips,the vet says she has no swelling anywhere else or on her glands so we will just have to wait and see
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Hi Sandra,
Suzie has responded so well to the steroid injection I so hope that it has such a positive effect on Sbuggs' apertite. The Hi-Life "Petit Pate" is good stuff, Suzie is really enjoying it and it slips down easy. Waitrose and Sainsburys sell it in mixed packs Tuna/Jelly, Tuna/Shrimp, Tuna/Chicken and Tuna Imperial in one and various chicken/turrkey combinations in another assorted pack.
Still sending you and Snuggs the most positive of vibes.
Cheers
Leigh
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Thanks Leigh im going shopping this afternoon so i will get some and try it,fingers crossed,mind you if she wont eat it im sure one of the other 5 will,but i will try anything and im sure with all these positive vibes coming her way she will come through this. :hug: sandra to you and yoursl
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Hi Sandra,
Finger's crossed, with Suzie's condition the "growth" is partly obstructing the intestine and thus food was building up and coming back up. The pate is very mushy but also smells pretty apertising (I've been around cat food too long) :) , one gets a sense of what smells like it should be appealing but as we all know it doesn't always work that way but strangely it always works that way with my cooking which never smells that appealing to the cats :) I believe that the steroids amongst other things, reduce the inflamation and thus make it easier for food to be swallowed/digested and mushy food slips through easier than the rough stuff, I also recently bought a liquidiser so that I could chop up food for her but so far she's enjoying the hi-life food which doesn't need much, if any, mashing. She is toileting normally and hasn't had the runs or anything so another positive factor.
All the best
Cheers
Leigh
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Sending lots of a love and positive vibes that the steriod injection will perk up her appetite and get her eating again.
Big hugs to you and Snuggs :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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thanks Sam at the moment she is laid in the garden in the sun, asleep yesterday she wouldnt come out, so im keeping my fingers crossed
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Hope everything goes ok, my old cat went mad for sardines in tomato sauce. I could not get anything down her but she smelt the sardines and away she went.
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she is laid in the garden in the sun, asleep yesterday she wouldnt come out, so im keeping my fingers crossed
That sounds positive, hopefully the meds are starting to have an effect and her appetite will be kick started :hug:
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Have you tried her with applaws -tuna or chicken? -
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Only just seen thread, hope the steriod injection works wonders :hug:
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Lots more hugs to you and Snuggs - hope she has a good weekend and it goes well on Monday. :hug:
Mary and Bonnie
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she'll be eating you out of house and home in no time if Leigh's experience is anything to go by!
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update on Snuggs, its now 9hrs since she went to the vets and had her injections, and there is no change, she still doesnt want to eat, still got no interest in anything,i have fed her via a syringe with some royal canin convalescence support food,after trying her with sardines,tuna,salmon,hi-life pate, in fact you name it ive tried it, all to no avail, not sure what to do next?
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Hi Sandra,
Very sorry to hear about Snuggs, do you think that liquidising some food might help ? maybe she could lap it up .
good vibes still winging their way to you both
also the steroids might take a while to kick in so don't get too upset
I will PM you my phone no. in a sec. please ring me if you'd like
all the best
Leigh
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:thanks:Leigh, i really appreciate that ive made a note of it and will give you a ring if theres any change :(
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A pleasure Sandra, I know how upsetting it is, wishing you the best of luck, give her a stroke from me.
Best wishes
Leigh
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I hope the steroids and antibiotics kick in soon and she gets her appetite back :hug:
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Thank you all for the tremendous support your giving me in this very stressful time,words can never express how much it means to me :thanks:
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Leigh ,ive just seen a photo of Alfie,if you bring the tabby down on his nose a bit then you have Snuggs,my baby
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Thinking about Snuggs and hope she picks up soon :hug:
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Keep your chin up and remember we are all going to say a prayer tonight im sure for Snuggs.
Hopefully when the medicine kicks in there will be a change.
XX for Snuggs. XX for you.
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Update for snuggs, this morning i have managed to coax her into having a little bit of chicken, it wasnt a lot but she ate it thats the main thing and during the night she jumped up onto the bed and snuggled down with me for a while , she has nt done this for about 5 days so hopefully we may have turned a corner ;D
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Good morning,
That's excellent news Sandra, looks like the medicines are starting to take effect, it's so lovely when they start to feel better and get their old ways back. Suzie's been doing the same and joining me on the bed a bit more. Funny how Snugs is so much like Alfie, he's my first white/tabby cat he always looks very very "persil" white clean.
I'm going out for the day with my mum but will catch up with your news later. I'm keeping eveything crossed that Snugs feels better and continues to enjoy her food.
All the best
Leigh
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Great news Sandra ;D
When my Clapton had his steroid jab, he was barely eating - he was skin & bone - but over a few days, his appetite built up and he hasn't looked back - he eats more than all the others thesedays despite having CRF. Even though her appetite may being coming back. Like us I suppose their stomach shrinks when they haven't been well - so little & often is probably the way to go. :hug:
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Oh thats fantastic news, hopefully he will get stronger and stronger now. I ll keep everything crossed for you. :hug:
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That's wonderful Sandra, must be such a relief. Keep it up for your mummy snuggs
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Sorry I have only just caught up with this thread. Glad Snugs has eaten a little during the night,lets hope the medication the vet has given has started to work :)
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Yes, that sounds promising, keep us posted :hug:
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just got home from work,Snuggs hasnt eaten anything while ive been out but ive managed to get a little bit of turkey mince down her by hand feeding, will try again in a little while
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just seen this thread too. I hope Snuggs keeps eating, even if it's just a little bit. All the best :hug:
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this morning she wouldnt eat so as i knew i was going to be out all day at work i managed to get 8ml of high concentrate formula down her (not without a fight) then she ate about an ounce of turkey mince,tonight ive managed to hand feed her about 2 ounces of turkey mince so at least she has had a bit more today,im back at the vets monday so hopefully they will be able to do more for her fingers crossed
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How did Snugg's visit to the vet go today?
Mary
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Not to good, the vet wanted to give her some tablets that i have read bad reports about ,the same as Metacm, they can cause liver/kidney failure so i refused,she is actually a little bit brighter today and has managed to eat quite a bit of turkey mince today, but i think the problem is with her teeth, she had several teeth out a while back but ive noticed when she eats you can hear her grinding her teeth,so im going to leave her for a few days and see how she goes ,then im going to find a new vet as i dont have confidence in this one anymore,especially after Ninja,as i said to Leigh how can one vet in the practice diagnois pneumonia on friday then the other say its a mass on his lungs( x-rays confirmed this ) on sat
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sounds as if you & Snuggs have real problems and I'm so sorry. It's so important to have total confidence in your vet when your cat is unwell. I hope you can find someone good and understanding. All the best to you and Snuggs.
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i would certainly look for a new vet, and hope that it can be sorted. What were the meds? Do bear in mind everything has side effects, even steroids can affect liver and kidneys.
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I would change vet too.
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I would caution only that lung disease is very difficult to diagnose - my friend has a mass on her lung which was suspected to be cancer but turned out to be a persistent infection. It took X rays, a bronchoscopy and a CT scan to determine this, though, so personally I would not be too hard on the vet(s) if they offer differing opinions. Just my caution, as I say.
Re medication, I have recently taken the decision to put Blip (10 years old) on Metacam because, to be brutally honest about my own decision, I would rather her life was shorter and pain-free than longer and suffering from the pain of arthritis. If something works, it can have side effects but every individual is different.
Anyway, hugs to you both.
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when i took Ninja to the vets the first time on the friday he was having difficulty breathing, but no runny nose, eyes, sneezing or wheezing, she gave him an anti inflammitary injection also antibiotics, during the night ,he detereated so he went back to the vets on sat morning where the other vet in the practice said it wasnt pnuemonia and immediately had an x-ray done,it showed that Ninja heart was on the wrong side of his body( the right side ) and that there was a mass pushing everything up which was restricting his breathing, hence the panting she gave me antirobe tablets and also prednisolone tablets, as he was having difficulty breathing i pointed out it would be very hard to get these into him,so she told me to crush them and give to him via the syringe with the formula she had given me to try and get him to eat(it was like broth ) at 4am on sunday morning i had to take him to an emergency vet to be pts as he rapidly went down over the course of the day, 4 weeks previous to that i lost Meg (my dog ) she had auto immune disease, they first of all thought it was her spleen causing an internal bleed, when they operated they found it wasnt but in fact her body was turning on itsself and destroying her red blood cells, on tues she was very ill and wed morning they did an emergency blood transfusion, wed she was like a new dog, bouncy, full of life,she was also put on prednisolone,thurs night she was lathargic, didnt want to know me or her sister(raps) i couldnt believe it was the same dog,her muzzle was swollen to 3 times its size she was panting like there was no tomorrow and drinking water for england, the vet said i could take her home as she would probably pick up better at home, when i did so she just laid in her bed completely out of it, by friday night she was so weak she couldnt stand up, she wet herself and couldnt get out of it, i rang the my vet and told him what she was like, i said she seemed to be drugged up, he said that was a side effect of the prednisolone, i asked him if i couls stop them as i wasnt very happy,he told me if i stopped them it would kill her as they have to come off slowly,that was at midnight, 10hrs later she died, i wasnt with her because i had to work, luckily she was with my neighbour at the time of death, when i checked on the internet for prednisolone it said the max dosage for a dog was 5mg with 12 hr intervals, Meg was on 25mg x2 a day she had all the classic symptons of an overdose, exsessive panting, drinking,, swollen muzzle,lose of balance, lethargy,,i ended up with a bill of over £600, they then refused to treat anymore of my animals until i paid the bill,so i went to a different vet , the rest as they say is history,thats wht i dont trust vets.im sorry this is so long but i was trying to explain
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i can understand you not liking vets very much BL, but they aren't all that bad. Excessive drinking is a normal side effect to steroids though. Sadly sometimes vets get it wrong - but if you think about it, they are expected to know a lot - we wouldnt go to our regular GP for a dental or a hysterectomy, would we? And they are dealing with health issues, which aren't always text book.
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While i agree with you to a point i usually always go with my gut feeling, and 99% of the time i have been right, the symptons Meg had were classic overdose and while my vet agreed that it was the tablets causing her symptons he said he stood by his diagnosis,but according to the internet 1 overdose wouldnt kill but prolonged use would, she was on it for 5 days at 50mg per day instead of the recommended 10mg,i still feel if i had taken her off them she may just have pulled through, after the transfusion she was fine it was only when they put her on the prednosolone that she deteriated
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Hi Sandra,
How is Snuggs doing today?
:Luv2:
Leigh
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Hi Leigh, she is a bit better :thanks: over the last 2 days,has eaten quite a bit plus had some cream,ive been having some healing done on her as an alternative to injections and it seems to be working, shes happier and her ear also seems to be drying up instead of weeping all the time.so we will see how it goes,hows Susie doing?is she still going along okay,i hope so and im sending her some of these healing vibes fron Annie and a big hug for her :hug:
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That's good news. Hope Snuggs continue to improve
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Hi Sandra,
That's great news, I am so pleased Snuggs is eating better give her a :hug: from me. Suzie is doing really well, she's still eating very well, she polished off the better part of 5 tins of her favourite flavours of Hi-Life yesterday late afternoon/evening/overnight/this morning and she is more energetic.
I'm a believer in healing, I once had a back problem years ago and had healing after the pain killers didn't help and it really worked and the pain virtually dissapeared.
All the best
:Luv:
Leigh
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Glad she seems to be doing OK
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thank you all for your support its really appreciated, Snuggs was so much better yesterday but seems to be having an off day today, she has only eaten a little bit altho she seems reasonably bright, the good news in this healing seems to be working on her ears with the poylips,she is not shaking her head so much and its only weeping a little bit and not continously like it was before so fingers crossed
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Glad to hear Snuggs is doing OK ... fingers crossed she will continue to improve xxxxx
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How is Snuggs doing?
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:thanks: for asking she is doing a lot better, ,she is eating quite well now, and she actually wanted to play the last 2 nights ;Di she has not been back to the vets, instead she has been having distance healing by Annie Marston and altho i wasnt to sure at first im now convinced its working, she is much happier ;D and her ears are not weeping half as much as they normally do, and its now 10 weeks since her last long lasting injection (normally lasts 6/7 weeks) and apart from that 2 day one 2 weeks ago she has not had any other medication so im sure its down to Annie
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Well, you will forgive my cynicism about that, bonnielass, but I am thrilled that Snuggs is doing better for whatever reason.
I really cannot stress enough that anyone concerned about the health of their cat should consult a veterinary practitioner in the first instance.
Anyway, I sincerely hope that Snuggs continues to prosper :hug:
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I would never jepordise the health of any of my animals, but im afraid my experience over the last 6 weeks with vets :( has done little to give me confidence in them and if i can find an alternative method without risking their well being i certainly will do so
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I do understand how painful your experiences have been and my heart goes out to you, bonnielass :hug:. But I would beg you to find a vet you can trust for little Snuggs. Perhaps one or other of our members can recommend a good one that they use if you let us know your area?
:hug: to Snuggs too.
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Hello Bonnielass
Have just been catching up with this thread and am so sorry to hear of the problems you and Snuggs have undergone.
This is particularly hard for you coming so hot on the heels of your recent losses too, and I really feel for you.
Am very interested in your experiences of the distance healing for Snuggs. Am a registered NFSH healer myself and a reiki practitioner in my spare time. I've used healing in the past on my own animals, with varying degrees of success, and they've reacted very positively to hands-on healing that I've been able to give them. I would normally recommend using healing in conjunction with conventional treatment and wanted to say, don't be put off speaking with your vet or challenging their diagnosis or treatment if you feel there's grounds for doing so.
As some on here will know, I've had some very lively discussions with my own vet when I've not been happy with a suggested course of action or I've wanted more information. Even if you ultimately feel you need to change veterinary practices then I wouldn't hesitate. Christine's suggestion's a good one if anyone seeing this lives near you and could provide any recommendation.
Am sending hugs to you and to Snuggs :hug: :hug:
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Hi up until a few weeks ago i was very sceptical about the practise of healing as you hear so many conflicting reports, but after i lost Meg ( my collie) i used the internet to access information about various drugs that are used both in cats and dogs and what i read was very disturbing in some instances,the worst cases involving both Metacam and PREDNISOLONE,, I became concerned with the amount of antibiotics and steroids were being used, and while i agree in some cases they are a necessary thing i also feel that a lot of vets prescribe them willynilly( i know im going to get some flack for this ) as i know from my experience with Ninja, he was prescribed drugs the day before i lost him :'(i didnt know till later on that the vet had told my neighbour(he brought him back from the vets on sat ) that she didnt expect him to last the night, so why prescribe drugs that were absolutley no use, (antirobe and prednislone) antibitotic and steroids,, when Snuggs became unwell i took het to the vets and she was given a 2 day antibiotic and a steriod injection, which did absolutely nothing for her,i contacted Annie Marston who i had previously met several weeks before at another ladies house who was having some healing done on her cat and explained about Snuggs, she has done several healing sessions with her and now she is a lot happier, without drugs, she is playing again and is almost back to her old self,i am very impressed with Annie and would have no qualms about recommending her, she is also going to teach me about healing,
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I think it's marvellous that the healing is working well for Snuggs but I am sure you will also keep Snuggs monitored by your vet
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I think you'll enjoy learning about healing, especially with animals, Bonnielass. It can be very rewarding, and it debunks the old myth that it's "faith healing" because it's not. I would rule out nothing provided it caused no actual harm, because our babies are too precious to give up on.
I'd still have a word with your vet though and discuss your concerns about the treatment for Ninja and why you feel it's an issue. You need to be able to either build up that trust with them again in the event of future dealings with them, or to move on and find a vet you can trust.
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Im looking into alternative medicine and also the healing side of things, obviously if its anything serious then a vet would be a priority but i feel that a lot of things can be treated naturally, my animals are my life :Luv2: and i would never ever do anything to put them at risk ,but it will take me a while to trust another vet,i know my animals and know what they are thinking before they even think it, i also get a gut feeling when something is wrong :sick: the same as i knew with Meg that the drug she was on was killing her, but the vet said if i stopped it immediately it would kill her,but by then it was too late, she had classic signs of overdose and died :(this new vet diagnosed Ninja with pneumonia infact he had a mass on his lungs, diagnosed 24hrs later and died 16hrs later,so now do you see why i have no faith in vets, the majority only seem to be in it for the money and not the well being of the animal
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I do petal, and I can tell that you're instinctively in tune with your animals too, which is a great start for learning to heal. You might also like to read up on a technique called the Tellington Touch, which works very well with horses and dogs. :hug:
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Thanks i will look it up straight away :thanks: