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Cat Rescue & Rehoming => Rescue & Rehoming General => Topic started by: Ela on May 29, 2008, 08:05:36 AM
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A week or so ago I received a phone call from a man who said his relationship had broken up and he could not keep a 15 year old cat and 2 x 16 year olds. I asked him where he lived and after he told me I advised him that really it was not an area we dealt with but told him to ring the cat rescue nearest to him, he said they did not want to know so I asked him to ring a Cats Protection shelter. They like all rescues do have a waiting list but at least eventually they will be taken in. For some reason I did 1471 after I put the phone down. A few days ago I rang the man and asked if he had placed the cats on the Derby list, he said he had. On Tuesday I received a call from a vet to ask if I know of a Mr X, I said yes and told her all I knew, apparently he had made an appointment to PTS. Although we are full to bursting have a huge list of cats waiting to come in and some in a cattery we need to pay for, we decided that one fosterer would try to move thing around and take them in. We then rang the vet who then advised the owner. He had changed his mind and said he did not want them in a pen and would rather they ‘go’ together. The vet then told the owner of a sanctuary who has some cats out on the land, (she forgot to mention that they would need to be contained initially for a while) unfortunately they cannot help, so the man arranged for the little ones to be PTS this afternoon. I asked the vet if they could ring the sanctuary themselves and advise them that we would pay for all vet care for life and provide all food if they could take them in. I have not heard back about this, But I have left a message on their answerphone and asked them to ring me back as soon as they receive my message. Last night after fat club I rang the owner, the answer phone was on so pretending I knew nothing just said Oh! hello its Elaine from CP and then offered to come and take pics of the little ones and place them on my site. An hour later I thought I would have one more go, so rang again and the owner answered again pretending to know nothing I said I had left a message on his answerphone & had he heard it. He said no, so told him of my plan, he then said but I have booked them in the vets tomorrow, I said Oh! are they ill he did not really answer, so I said well we would pay and once homed we always pay for life for any age related illness. I advised him we find good homes for loads of golden oldies. I cannot make him sign them over so in the end I just asked as sweetly as I could muster do you know my number, he said yes so I replied well if you want me to help please ring me tomorrow. My hands are tied and I feel helpless.
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I do hope he changes his mind Ela.
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This is indeed heartbreaking, poor cats and poor you - I do hope that something can be resolved other than pTS.
sending positive vibes your way :hug: :hug:
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poor cats, i hope that this has a happy ending
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I do hope the man changes his mind :(
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So sad - won't the vet keep the cats for you? - hopefully they can tell a white lie? - it should be illegal to PTS healthy cats >:( :'(
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I was wondering the same, will the man not sign over to the vet?
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I was wondering the same, will the man not sign over to the vet?
The vet could not possible keep them, all their cages are used each day. and in any case oulthe owner doies not want them in a pen,as one rescue told him all they would do would be to lock them in a shed until they die or a pen where they would throw themselves at the mesh. How a rescue could say that just because they did not want to help is beyond me.
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no sorry I meant have them signed over and then get a rescue involved, I suppose if the owner thinks they will end up in a pen and doesn't want that your hands are tied
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I can't say too much at this time but I have come up with an idea and I think it has worked. I will adopt them. After all I have loved and lost 2 in the last few weeks.
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:) :hug:
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Sometime we're fighting a losing battle when other rescues paint such a bleak picture for the owner. I am sure they only say these things to try and get the owners to keep the cats but sometimes, as in this case, it backfires with possible dire consequences.
Good luck to you Ela, I know you will do your best to get them safe.
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good luck with this Ela, hope it all works out in the end. I don't know why some rescues have to paint such a bleak picture to owners.
fingers crossed things go ok for the little ones but either way you will have done your best Ela. :hug:
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Good luck Ela, I am keeping my fingers crossed for these babies
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Poor babies - good luck with the plan, Ela.
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Just been telling my partner about this story, and I'm so sorry to sound so nieve again but I just can't believe someone would have their cats PTS just because they don't want them anymore :( It's just so unbelivably sad. I'd so glad your going to take them in Ela - If it were me I just know I would have done the same thing if it meant saving these little kitties lives. Well done you! I look forward to the updates.. and maybe even some pictures!
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Go for it Ela, well done you for caring!
Hope it goes ok :hug: :wish:
Cathryn- It happens all the time- my 3 were under sentence of death for spraying the previous owners new babies things! and my new foster boy was under sentence of death due to the owner having serious mental health issues and her CPN advising she did it to ease her mind!
People will often do it sometimes as its the easy route, sometimes because it forces other people to do the work for them >:(
Lazy, ignorant f*wits!
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That's really great if you're able to Ela. Nothing like a couple purrpots to help you heal :hug:
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People will often do it sometimes as its the easy route, sometimes because it forces other people to do the work for them
Lazy, ignorant f*wits!
>:( >:( >:(
I am just totally lost for words that people would do that!! The least they could do Is just leave them at a rescue.. surely? I don't know very much about fostering (at all) but at some point in the future I think I am definately going to consider it.. the more I read these sad stories the more important it seems that emergency placements are out there.
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A little harsh I think when we do not have all the details to hand. There is no mention of the owner not wanting the cats any more only that a relationship has broken down which could mean that the owner is homeless or needing to go into rented accommodation which will not allow pets.
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Yes your right, sorry. I just got the impression that was the case. But of course there must also be genuine reason why people can't continue to look after there cats as well! I was more annoyed that people, in general, will have their cats PTS in situations when perhaps this drastic measure is not needed. But then I don't even have any cats yet so I certainly don't have the knowledge and years of exeperience you guys have :)
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A little harsh I think when we do not have all the details to hand. There is no mention of the owner not wanting the cats any more only that a relationship has broken down which could mean that the owner is homeless or needing to go into rented accommodation which will not allow pets.
But surely not as harsh as putting lifetime members of your family to sleep when someone is offering you a lifeline, as Ela has been trying to do for the past few days.
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which could mean that the owner is homeless or needing to go into rented accommodation which will not allow pets.
Had that been the case I would have said so.
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But of course there must also be genuine reason why people can't continue to look after there cats
Sometimes there is absolutly no valid reason a person wants their pets apart fom the fact that they are not wanted anymore. A sad fact but very true.
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Are they safe Ela?
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I can think of at least one person who can't be bothered with a pet but also doesn't want anyone else to have it
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Ok – let’s call a truce
If I don’t know the full story then I like to give people the benefit of the doubt
Good luck with these cats – I hope they can be saved
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Ok – let’s call a truce
If I don’t know the full story then I like to give people the benefit of the doubt
Good luck with these cats – I hope they can be saved
Truce agreed :hug: :hug:. You have to forgive us in rescue, we hear so many horrible stories of people just dumping, ignoring or having their cats pts - it gets to the stage that whatever they tell me I take with a pinch of salt now anyway.
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Are they safe Ela?
They are with their owner but I will take them on Sunday. You know the sad thing is I think he does love them but after what he was told by another rescue, he thought they would be better of PTS than left in a shed.
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That's wonderful news!
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Well done Ela :hug:
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Well done Ela!
I'll eat humble pie over this guy and take back my comments :-[. Seems to me that whoever he spoke to at that rescue centre is the one who needs to be dressed down for severe tactlessness!
A lot of adult cats around here that Lesley gets called about are under PTS threat only to find out that the problems are surmountable with a little work or we've just been told a flagrant lie in order for the owner to pass the buck. Needless to say it doesn't encourage faith in human behaviour! :(
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Well done Ela, I cant wait to see the photos :naughty:
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I am glad that these will be safe, good on you Ela.
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Are they safe Ela?
They are with there owner but I will take them on Sunday. You know the sad thing is I think he does love them but after what he was told by another rescue, he thought they would be better of PTS than left in a shed.
From that point of view, I can understand that, in that case. Better I keep some of my thoughts to myself, but may I say well done to you, Ela :hug:
Please keep us updated when you are able.
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Brilliant news about the cats
But seeing as it was a caseof the owner loving his cats wonder how he would feel having his story told on a public website !
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He will have no idea, sadly I have heard the same story many times and I am not even saying which part of the UK he lives in.
I think your question could apply to many a post on this and other forums.
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Great news! ;D
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very true Ela... pleased to hear that everything is working out fine all round.
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Brilliant news that you will be adopting the cats on Sunday! :hug: :wow:
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Just seen this Ela, well done to you, that's fantastic :hug:
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The 3 little ones, have now been signed over to me. They are delightful and most certainly don't look their age.
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Aww, can't wait to see pics Ela.
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The 3 little ones, have now been signed over to me. They are delightful and most certainly don't look their age.
Good news, Ela :)
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That's great news Ela, looking forward to seeing your new arrivals :Luv2:
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Brilliant news about the cats
But seeing as it was a caseof the owner loving his cats wonder how he would feel having his story told on a public website !
I really think rescues need to publicise what goes on as long as names aren't named. Perhaps if more people are aware of the misery 'out there' then it will encourage them to help in some way.
Well done Ela, still waiting for piccies.
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Thinking about it, I had better not put pics on here but If you want to see them please just e-mail me and I will send some as soon as Stuart has taken them.
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Does the person who they lived with use the site? I think most people who are following the thread ould love to see these three. :)
I can understand their misconception of how cats in rescues live. Having worked at the "nameless place" near me, I noticed the cats there weren't socialised at all. Just the basics were done - apart from when they let me loose on my on to look after the cattery. ;)
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No they are not on the internet, but I have my reasons for no placing the cats pics on the site.
I can understand their misconception of how cats in rescues live.
Sorry, I can see no connection re this comment how and I and all my fosterer's keep our cats. All our foster cats have pens that cost thousands of pounds, have heated beds, radios and most things except a loving family that their little hearts could desire. Also some of the fosterer's have cat cuddlers that visit sometimes on a daily basis. Those fosterer's like myself who do not have cat cuddlers in is because we or members of our family spend lots of quality time a day with the cats.
The previous owner of the cats in question only had this idea because of a rescue in his area who told lies simply because they did not want to take in golden oldies.
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Hi Ela, I personally would love to see pics of these golden oldies :Luv2:. You have done a wonderful job taking them in, it would be a shame not to share the pics, to think they were on the brink.. well.. you know. (please! Tehehe).
Pssstt... my kittens are arriving next wednesday!! Woohoooo.
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I can understand their misconception of how cats in rescues live.
Sorry, I can see no connection re this comment how and I and all my fosterer's keep our cats. The previous owner of the cats in question only had this idea because of a rescue in his area who told lies simply because they did not want to take in golden oldies.
I am sure JackSpratt wasnt thinking of you and the team in Chesterfield CP, Ela.
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JS wouldnt have been talking about you Ela, but some rescues aren't as good, and sadly people do think that we all keep them in small pens, and the fact that a rescue told him that would be the case, it is no wonder he didn't want that to happen to them. I took my sis to a local one yesterday and was nearly in tears, I was soo glad that we use fosterers. Could you e-mail me the pics when Stuart has taken them, I do have a soft spot for oldies (had to deliberately avoid looking at them yesterday!!).
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I think the title of this thread should be changed from 'heartbreaking' to 'heartwarming' :Luv:
I hope the three settle in well; they've really landed on their paws!
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No they are not on the internet, but I have my reasons for no placing the cats pics on the site.
I can understand their misconception of how cats in rescues live.
Sorry, I can see no connection re this comment how and I and all my fosterer's keep our cats. All our foster cats have pens that cost thousands of pounds, have heated beds, radios and most things except a loving family that their little hearts could desire. Also some of the fosterer's have cat cuddlers that visit sometimes on a daily basis. Those fosterer's like myself who do not have cat cuddlers in is because we or members of our family spend lots of quality time a day with the cats.
The previous owner of the cats in question only had this idea because of a rescue in his area who told lies simply because they did not want to take in golden oldies.
Ela, my post stated why I understood this persons perception of rescues. It was in no way aimed at any rescue using this site.
Anyway, glad these three are safe. :)