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Title: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 26, 2008, 13:18:59 PM
Hi folks,

(http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Turner_1.jpg)

Let me draw to you attention to this year`s Turner Prize entry by the internationally renowned émigré Czech artist  and sculptress Růžena Knedlik entitled "Pocta do Soulu na kočku" which translates roughly as "Homage to the soul of a cat". I quote from the online Arts magazine "Art Matters". "The 3.5m sculpture cast in bronze depicting six opened cat food boxes is said by the artist to represent the innermost representation of the cat".

Now I know that it has become "de rigeur" to have an piece of abstract art gracing one's wall or garden, we've had car tyres, unmade beds but seriously I've now seen it all"   

Cheers

Leigh
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Christine (Blip) on May 26, 2008, 14:01:31 PM
Actually, Leigh, may I confess that I rather like it?  :shy:  Although I am not sure that it speaks to me of the soul of a cat  ;)
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: dolcetta46 on May 26, 2008, 15:34:29 PM
Great arts often leave much up to the imagination of the viewers for their own interpretation.


I am completely speechless.


and my comment leave much up to the imagination of the viewers for their own interpretation.
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on May 26, 2008, 15:46:15 PM
I also quite like that  ;D

I am confused however , she has called her sculpture a name in Czech but has dumped the female end off her name which should be Knedlikova or Knedlkova, accent over the a at end of course  :shify:

Of course we know a cat has in its soul the desire to be pampered and well fed  ;D
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Teresa Pawcats on May 26, 2008, 16:18:33 PM
Has quite a relaxing effect on me and a nice warming glow, yes really like it but would be much improved with one of my cats asleep on top.

Yes I can see it now Fort Minimopsical  :rofl:
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 26, 2008, 17:09:43 PM
Hiya,

I like my version, life imitating art and it cost me a lot less  ;D ;D

(http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/felix_boxes.jpg)

Cheers

Leigh

Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Christine (Blip) on May 26, 2008, 17:13:48 PM
Yes, I must say that I like that equally as well, Leigh, and it is perhaps more accessible to the general viewer?

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 26, 2008, 17:15:39 PM
Hi Chris, I don't know about the general viewer but it is certainly more accessible to my cats  ;D
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Angiew on May 26, 2008, 17:21:56 PM
I think there is something of the "V" sign to it, so it does seem to sum up most cats attitudes  :Crazy:
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Teresa Pawcats on May 26, 2008, 17:25:11 PM
I think this is what originally inspired to artist  :rofl:

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Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Christine (Blip) on May 26, 2008, 17:26:46 PM
I thought I knew you, Teresa!  I had no idea you were so artistically gifted  :rofl:
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Teresa Pawcats on May 26, 2008, 17:30:50 PM
Actually Christine it was Minimopsicals very own work  :rofl:

I seem to remember Angie commissioning a similar sculpture  :rofl:
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 26, 2008, 17:33:46 PM
Blimey Teresa!, No wonder she looks nervous, I've heard of the leaning tower of Piza but that's something else!, if I was her I'd have turned the cat bed upside down and taken shelter inside it.  :rofl: :rofl:

Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Catjane on May 26, 2008, 19:42:25 PM
Sorry but I can't see it myself!  And anyone who thinks the soul of a cat is represented only by food doesn't know cats.  I don't like 'art' that is blatantly thrown together and then you're supposed to feel stupid or un-artistic when you can't understand what it's supposed to represent.  Like those coloured squares that three-year-olds could paint ... what's that all about?  I sometimes have the urge to produce something in 5 minutes and see if I can win the Turner prize!  Would be soooo funny if I did  :rofl:
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 27, 2008, 08:50:48 AM
Hi Catjane,

I couldn't agree more!, the artist whose name amusingly translates as "Rosie Dumpling" obviously doesn't understand cats at all. IMHO this is just another terrible case of "art for art's sake, money for heaven's sake". Art Matters magazine goes on to quote the artist as follows "To me the cat's spirit is so intrinsically bound up in the complex inter-relationship between its food and the packaging" (end quote).

What a lot of pretentious twaddle, I'm sorry but I really don't know how these pretentious  :censored: get away with it, it makes my blood boil!!!.

Angry of Kingston. 
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Mark on May 27, 2008, 09:30:55 AM
Hiya,

I like my version, life imitating art and it cost me a lot less  ;D ;D

(http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/felix_boxes.jpg)

Cheers

Leigh



And a lot more useful - I'm sure the boys would agree  :)
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 27, 2008, 10:36:18 AM
Most definitely Mark, I showed the two pictures to my cats and they weren't interested in the sculpture at all but the real cat food boxes got their interest therefore I can only conclude that they are very discerning art critics.
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: maryas on May 27, 2008, 12:24:05 PM
Hmmmmm.........  I think I'm speechless  :rofl: :evillaugh:

Mary
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 27, 2008, 12:52:24 PM
That's how I felt when I saw it Mary, I think I shall lobby my MP and write to the Times.

Bah Humbug!!!

Even more angry of Kingston
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Christine (Blip) on May 27, 2008, 15:25:45 PM
I've heard of the leaning tower of Piza but that's something else!

No, Leigh, I think you may be thinking of that influential work 'The Leaning Tower of Pizza' (my emphasis).  Created by the bibulous artist from Italy, Rubesco Chianti, this masterpiece, formed from discarded pizza boxes, is thought by many to represent the finest contemporary example of the relationships between consumption, guilt and redemption.

 8)
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 27, 2008, 15:57:34 PM
Hi Chris,

Now I for one don't have a problem with Chianti's work. Although in all honesty I don't count myself amongst the cognoscenti of his work I don't have a problem per se with the creation of art from packaging in fact I'd go so far as to say that it is probably doing the Italian street cleaning profession a service in much the same way as my humble effort with the cat food packaging and in both cases the contents have served some useful purpose and been enjoyably consumed, however, here is where I find myself at odds with Knedlik's work and, dare I say it, with that of Chianti's. In both cases the artist have chosen to use pretentious titles for their work and, in Knedlik's case the fact that no "real" packaging was used remains to me a total anathema.

Still very angry of Kingston.   
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Christine (Blip) on May 27, 2008, 16:11:54 PM
Now I for one don't have a problem with Chianti's work.

I quite like some of Chianti's more modern work, Leigh, but in general I am more attracted to his rival Barolo.

Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 27, 2008, 16:23:18 PM
I'm with you there Christine, I don't think that one can readily compare Chianti and his contempories from the Tuscan school with Barolo and others of the Cuneo school. Although of course we both remember the bitter sobriquette surrounding his most controversial work (translated as) "Supermarket trolley with one wonkey wheel at dusk - A study in solitude" and his outraged comments which, at the time, earned him the title amongst the paparazzi as "The King of Whines" surely a most delicious play on words.

(http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Barolo.jpg)

Moderately less angry of Kingston
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Catjane on May 27, 2008, 17:21:51 PM
I'm with you there Christine, I don't think that one can readily compare Chianti and his contempories from the Tuscan school with Barolo and others of the Cuneo school. Although of course we both remember the bitter sobriquette surrounding his most controversial work (translated as) "Supermarket trolley with one wonkey wheel at dusk - A study in solitude" and his outraged comments which, at the time, earned him the title amongst the paparazzi as "The King of Whines" surely a most delicious play on words.

(http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Barolo.jpg)

Moderately less angry of Kingston

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Christine (Blip) on May 27, 2008, 17:34:06 PM
his outraged comments which, at the time, earned him the title amongst the paparazzi as "The King of Whines" surely a most delicious play on words.


Then again, there were those of us who thought it was simply a case of sour grapes
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: maryas on May 27, 2008, 20:22:47 PM
I think I'd prefer a case of attached pic rather than a case of sour grapes  :naughty: :evillaugh: :rofl:

Mary

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Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Christine (Blip) on May 27, 2008, 20:24:21 PM
I think I'd prefer a case of attached pic rather than a case of sour grapes  :naughty: :evillaugh: :rofl:

Mary

To some of us, that is sour grapes  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: maryas on May 27, 2008, 20:27:40 PM
Oh no, not to me - I'll be having plenty on the 12th of June in Italy - can't wait - always tastes better there - my friends know a guy that has a vineyard and it's fantastico.  ;)

Mary
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Christine (Blip) on May 27, 2008, 20:30:22 PM
Oh no, not to me - I'll be having plenty on the 12th of June in Italy - can't wait - always tastes better there - my friends know a guy that has a vineyard and it's fantastico.  ;)

Mary

 :hug: we stayed on a vineyard in San Donato (Black Cockeral country and no mistake  ;)) a few years back and certainly enjoyed the produce!
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: maryas on May 27, 2008, 20:42:48 PM
Sounds like there might be a drunken story behind that!!  :evillaugh: :rofl:

Mary
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 28, 2008, 13:07:27 PM
Hi folks,

Christine I found another vintage Chianti simply entitled "Lightheaded". I think this was from his impressionist period.

(http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Chianti.jpg)

I personally think (slipping into best Melvin Bragg accent) that "The artist is shown here in frivolous mood, evoking in the viewer a subtle juxtaposition of light and dark emotions".

Cheers

Leigh
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Christine (Blip) on May 28, 2008, 16:50:40 PM

I personally think (slipping into best Melvin Bragg accent) that "The artist is shown here in frivolous mood, evoking in the viewer a subtle juxtaposition of light and dark emotions".


For me, this work shines as an electrifying response to Chianti's critics.  It fuses ample evidence of his current concerns with a lightness of touch and a switch of mood.  There are those who see it as a volte face but watt a mistake they are making!

Hope this is not seen as too shameless a plug for Chianti.
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 28, 2008, 17:01:50 PM
Hi Chris,

I agree totally, you are obviously switched on to his work, the artist does indeed make light-work of such a complicated subject to me this work is positively illuminating it possesses a radiance and incandescence of its own.
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Christine (Blip) on May 28, 2008, 18:00:15 PM
How wonderful, Leigh, that we can conduct such a lively and energetic exchange on this hot topic, sparking ideas on elements of Chianti's output
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 28, 2008, 18:07:35 PM
Indeed Chris, IMO Borolo's "Supermarket Trolley with one Wonkey Wheel at Dusk - A study in solitude" can't hold a candle to this truely enlightening mastepiece by Chianti. 
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Christine (Blip) on May 28, 2008, 18:27:02 PM
OHMyword, no! The power of the piece is magnetic...
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Teresa Pawcats on May 28, 2008, 18:44:38 PM
I must admit this thread has become much to High Brow for me, think I need to seek out my crayons and dunces cap :rofl:
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 28, 2008, 19:10:20 PM
Agreed, Borolo's early works were enthused with a burning passion but, sadly, his later works are lacking this fire and, IMO, he has grown into a bulbous bon viveur.  I like Chianti's more immediate, direct, current approach it is obvious to me that he considers his art a conduit for expressing his feelings alternating currently between frivolously light and sombre dark emotions.

It's all light-hearted Teresa  ;D
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: maryas on May 28, 2008, 21:01:19 PM
How can any of this be taken seriously especially with that stupid Mr Bean at the end of all Leigh's replies!!  :rofl:

I still think the red Chianti in a glass is the best!!  :naughty:

Mary
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 29, 2008, 08:59:13 AM
Hi Mary,

Well all I can say is.................

(http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ECHO_BEACH.jpg)

Cheers

Leigh
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: maryas on May 29, 2008, 18:27:57 PM
Almost lost for words AGAIN....... all I can say is I love trifle and I love the black cat in the pics.

OH, and I think YOU deserve the Turner prize OR at least a Blue Peter badge.  :rofl: :Luv2: :rofl: :Luv2: 

Mary 
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: Christine (Blip) on May 29, 2008, 18:54:40 PM
OH, and I think YOU deserve the Turner prize OR at least a Blue Peter badge.  :rofl: :Luv2: :rofl: :Luv2: 

Mary 

No, no, no - a Blue Leigh badge, Mary, pay attention!  :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: maryas on May 29, 2008, 18:57:37 PM
Nice one!!!  Maybe I need a few glasses of Chianti so that I know what I'm doing!!  :naughty: :evillaugh: :rofl:

Mary
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 30, 2008, 09:58:03 AM
LOL  :rofl: :rofl:, I've got a "Blue Leigh" T.Shirt  ;D

(http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Blue_Leigh.jpg)

 ;D

Blue Leigh Theme (http://www.tv-timewarp.co.uk/midi_files/ExternalLinkFilter/BluePeter_MikeOldfield.mid)

Leigh
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: maryas on May 30, 2008, 10:26:24 AM
Oh dear, dear, dear me...............  You don't need much encouragement do you Leigh?  :rofl: :rofl: :evillaugh: :Luv2:

Nice one chuck.  :hug:

Mary
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 30, 2008, 11:04:21 AM
You don't need much encouragement do you Leigh?

That depends on what you're refering to Mary, I'd need an awful lot of encouragement to get me into an Olympic bobsleigh, a motorcycle "Wall of Death" or a shark-infested ocean for example  ;D ;D

Cheers

Leigh
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: maryas on May 30, 2008, 11:16:52 AM
i have every confidence in you to do anything, I am sure you could do any of them with your eyes shut if you really tried!  :evillaugh:

Perhaps you should just stick to being a great dad to your puddies.  :Luv2: :hug:

Mary
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 30, 2008, 11:32:43 AM
I'd need more than my eyes shut!, I'd need some of

These (http://drynight.com/detail.aspx?ID=6)

But maybe not for the shark-infested ocean scenario as they're absorbancy might drag me under  ;D


 ;D

Leigh
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: maryas on May 30, 2008, 14:17:43 PM
You get worse!!  I thought you couldn't........but you can!  :rofl: :hug: :naughty:

Mary
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 30, 2008, 15:39:13 PM
Hiya,

I got Suzie another 12 pouches of the Royal Canin "Sensitivity" wet food and a bag of the same in dry food which came with a free pouch of the wet food and a free storage tin which looks rather nice.

There's a picture of the tin on this page http://www.petplanet.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=5697&dept_id=354&co=tiscali (http://www.petplanet.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=5697&dept_id=354&co=tiscali)

TTFN  :hug:

LAFS
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: maryas on May 30, 2008, 15:52:45 PM
Nice tin - now you've got a ginger puddy cat too.  :hug:

Mary
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: LeighK on May 30, 2008, 16:10:29 PM
And if Suzie doesn't like the biscuits I can always use it to keep my marbles in, I've been loosing them for years  ;D
Title: Re: Now I've seen it all!!
Post by: maryas on May 31, 2008, 06:11:50 AM
Aw, you bet me to that punch line Leigh!!   :rofl: :Luv2:

Mary