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Title: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Canterbury_cats (Sharon) on April 16, 2008, 14:52:18 PM
I have just had a call from a lady who has 3 five month old males she wants neutered (fine with that) ... But when i asked about the female mum she said no she wants to breed from her again..

I explained CP policy on preventing kittens and asked her the reason why she want get mum done.. Then she got abit difficult...

What am i to say... ? How can someone have the cheek to ring me... Get mum spayed and we will do all of them.. for free if needed but to tell me she wants to make money from future litters i am lost for words and no sure what to say or do.. I suspect the males may be starting to spray now, but if they were females then she wouldnt be ringing me...

We have a free neutering campaign in May for one of our areas and i am sure this want be the last call i get like this...

Advice pls....
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Dawn F on April 16, 2008, 15:06:35 PM
is she signing the boys over or selling them?
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Canterbury_cats (Sharon) on April 16, 2008, 15:13:14 PM
She didnt say and i didnt ask, she just said she had 3 male kittens ready to be neutered!
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Dawn F on April 16, 2008, 15:38:18 PM
bit of a no win situation I suppose  - she doesn't seem that sucessful at selling them anyway if she still got three boys left
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Kittybabe (Ruth) on April 16, 2008, 15:41:52 PM
Say you would be willing to neuter the males for free if the female was as well. If not, then you cannot offer it free of charge, as CP has a responsibility to the care of the cats. You can't force her to, however, 3 neuters is better than none. That will give you an opportunity to try to convince her otherwise?
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Canterbury_cats (Sharon) on April 16, 2008, 15:57:40 PM
I told her we would do all FOC if she had the mum done as well. But she refused!!
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 16, 2008, 18:39:22 PM
This is so terrible, and as Ruth says three neutered is better than none but she is obviously a back street breeder  and this is just encouraging her.

I am so pleased I do not have to make the decision here  :(
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Mark on April 16, 2008, 18:52:38 PM
You could call her bluff and say all or none and let her sweat a while.
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 16, 2008, 18:54:56 PM
One worry is that she may just dump the smelly unneutered toms  :(
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: blackcat on April 16, 2008, 18:58:58 PM
all or nothing. People like this need to face the reality of what they are doing. If she was interested in their welfare she would agree. As she is clearly not, then report to the relevant authorities ...
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Mark on April 16, 2008, 19:00:01 PM
Maybe just gauge her reaction?

She will probably get a better price for them neutered  :tired:

Trying to see a good side to her (quite difficult) she is trying to get them done so maybe there is a little spark of humanity there?
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 16, 2008, 19:01:28 PM
ummmmmmm what authorities would that be bc!
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Teresa Pawcats on April 16, 2008, 19:07:09 PM
At the end of the day we all have to put the cats interests first and 3 neuters is better than none and also being helpful to these morons is more likely to keep her on side; I would take the vouchers round in person and size up the situation. And no I dont like being held to ransome but sometimes we have to give an inch to gain a yard if you get my meaning.
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Kittybabe (Ruth) on April 16, 2008, 19:08:07 PM
T it's not often you call someone a moron. I love it when you do  :evillaugh:  Though Sharon maybe it might be advisable not to call the woman a moron to her face  :-:  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: blackcat on April 16, 2008, 19:13:15 PM
ummmmmmm what authorities would that be bc!

those who shall not be named but begin with an R. I know, a long shot, but it is, after all their statutory responsibility ... :tired:
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Mark on April 16, 2008, 19:17:43 PM
Not sure they can enforce neutering though - unfortunately  :tired:
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 16, 2008, 19:19:53 PM
I suspect they are sadly not interested, unless there was a houseful of breeding cats in bad conditions.................I do wonder what they do sometimes...........sigh
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Teresa Pawcats on April 16, 2008, 19:23:45 PM
Its suprising what can be achieved with 1 friendly visit  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Kittybabe (Ruth) on April 16, 2008, 19:57:56 PM
Sharon... take Mark with you  :naughty:
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 16, 2008, 19:58:47 PM
And /or Pinkbear  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Mark on April 16, 2008, 20:37:48 PM
 :scared:
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 16, 2008, 20:46:45 PM
I think the lady would be too Mark  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Wants kittens neutered but stiill want the mum to breed from? What to do?!
Post by: Canterbury_cats (Sharon) on April 16, 2008, 22:31:32 PM
i tried to ring her back to get details but she gave me a duff number so thats it really.  But i am not going to relent to people like this.. Either we do or nothing or indeed take the little ones in and rehome... i know that not all of you will agree with that stance but some education wouldnt go amiss.. I was going to send her some of or info on mammary cancer in unspayed females and also FIV stuff.

Since we distributed our flyers today in Whitstable i have had 6 calls already.. So thats promising...

Now here is something you dont here that often.. Since December we have had no kittens in our care.. Nope not a thing.. Personally thats a good thing, but one reason is because everyone is still selling them in the papers for 60 quid!! Hence these calls get to me..