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Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: swampmaxmum on April 10, 2008, 19:19:40 PM
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This morning I noticed Swampy had not done his usual copious pee in the tray. He'd done a dribble down the side, a tiny amount landing outside the tray. At lunch time he did pee once, a bit, although maybe not as much as usual. He's not been since. He would normally have peed 4 times by now, some bigger than others. I'm very worried that he has crystals. I'm not sure how urgent it is, as there is some alarming stuff about "rush the cat to the vet or he can die" on the internet. He has an appointment for 10.15am tomorrow morning. Can I wait until then or should i ring the emergency vets? He is behaving normally. Is it ok to wait and see if he pees overnight? Should I give him water?
How is this treated? How long does it take to clear up normally? I am supposed to be going away on Monday for a few days, including for a medical appointment for myself, but must cancel if he is unwell. This is the first time this has happened. Any help or advice would be great. Thanks everyone.
PS on the phone to the emergency vet when Swamp did a little one, so he says wait until tomorrow unless he keeps going and nothing comes out or is in pain. What would the vet tomorrow normally do? I'm not only nervous because am supposed to go away mon to thurs, but our roads are all closed on sunday because of the London marathon :(
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K, if he's happy enough though and he's just not pee'd and he's behaving as normal, then you need to make the call of whether or not to take him. But obviously because of his history I would keep a very keen eye on him. If he's keen to go to the loo but nothing, then take him in asap. If your gut is telling you to get him treated then I would. He's a special case as many of us know. Let him have access to fresh water, maybe add some to his food to help him along, but only if you know this will help him for sure.
Let us know how he gets on. x
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he's eaten badly this morning. only a little bit of k/d and a teaspoon i/d. then drank an awful lot, more than even normal. His appointment's at 10 so hope he pees before then as normally with that water intake he'd pee a fountain. he's having a bit of a senior day so far - silent miaowing and agitated, predators everywhere - but is now zzzz. Very worried. I know I'll probably be told to 'watch him and see' and it's the weekend, I can't get out of here on sunday (roads all closed for the stupid marathon) & I'm supposed to leave at 8.30am monday.
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I get him checked out especally if his been prone to some kind of blocking in the past, I don't want to frighten you but Jess was weeing small amounts and was still partially blocked.
Let us know how you get on :hug: :hug:
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Really hope everything is OK with Swampy :hug:
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Hi Swampy's mum
Hope everything went well at the vets this morning. If you're worried about Swampy, perhaps the vets will keep him in for a few days while you are away. I don't know very much about his medical problems.....haven't been on Purrs very much over the last year or so.....but I do know lots about FLUTD.
Lots of love to the little fella for a speedy recovery. :get well:
Best wishes,
Roz
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just got back. Vet says I must take in a pee sample today or tomorrow (assuming....) and that right now his bladder doesn't feel blocked. Hard to say why he's stopped his copious peeing but wait and see. I told him I was going away on monday and unfortunately the vet's not here after tomorrow morning, so keeping everything crossed that it will settle down. I have to keep him on renal food. He got a Vit B and more nandrolone as his cold is awful but his weight's good.
he said it's an emergency if he keeps going to the tray and straining and crying while producing nothing or just a dribble. Then I must (or OH must) get him to the vet within 24 hours.
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Aww poor Swampy I hope he wee's for you soon, I know what its like to be on litter tray watch,
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Hope Swampy soon does a great big pee
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Come on Swampy, lets have a nice bit pee from you please :hug:
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Any news?
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he said it's an emergency if he keeps going to the tray and straining and crying while producing nothing or just a dribble. Then I must (or OH must) get him to the vet within 24 hours.
With tom cats it is! Sending Swampy positive vibes~~~~~~~~~ :hug: :hug: :hug:
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sadly not a tom cat since he was 5 months old! Nothing yet.....we wait. The nandrolone didn't make him hungry like last time so hope nothing IS brewing.
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sadly not a tom cat since he was 5 months old! Nothing yet.....we wait. The nandrolone didn't make him hungry like last time so hope nothing IS brewing.
Sorry meant male! :shy:
:hug: :hug: :hug:
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Sending you and Swampy lots of love and positive vibes. :hug: :hug:
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small clump in the litter tray this evening so he has peed a bit. Still not as much as he normally does so please keep sending the positive pee vibes his way! Thanks everyone :hug: I hope so much it's just a temp thing and that it's not the beginnings of a blockage.
The nandrolone hasn't helped him eat more (not like last time) but it did make him jump on Max and grab him by the scruff - poor Max looked very startled.
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Sending lots of :hug: :hug: to you and Swampy. Do hope he's better soon.
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Lots of good vibes for Swampy :hug: :hug: :hug:
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I do hope Swampy feels better soon. :hug: :hug:
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Come on Swampy we need a nice big wee
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He peed this afternoon and while not a tray-filler, not too bad. The positive vibes seem to be helping. Now could you good peeps do something about his appetite? Nandrolone hopeless this time around and he's struggling to nosh enough. The catsitter came around and was a bit casual and announced someone will be replacing him one day so I'm of course neurotic. I suppose 4 days isn't that long but ohhhhh how I worry about my furbabe Swampa.
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Eat and pee eat and pee eat and pee Swampy PLEASE
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More positive vibes coming Swampy's way~~~~~~~ ;) Eat, pee and be merry! ;D
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How's Swampy today?
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peeing now, but not eating much - just refused breakfast 2, having eaten a bit less than normal at breakfast 1 at some ungodly hour. I have to go to the airport now - if he's not right I'll have to come back early. I wonder if the nandrolone can have the opposite effect as he seems worse on it, not hungrier. He's not upset by bags etc (going away) as the little bag's out of the way anyhow. Cold's bad and last night his meowmy poked the tube of fucithalmic IN his eye when he jerked his head.
Positive vibes needed purr-lease!
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Positive vibes on their way. Come on Swampy now you are peeing get the eating sorted and stop worrying everyone :hug:
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Lots of good vibes for Swampy :hug: :hug:
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Got back to find him refusing to eat -he ate tues and wed, but not yesterday (when replacement catsitter came and just plonked down a thick plate of k/d >:(). Waiting for tomorrow to see if it continues, then off to the vet first thing otherwise. He's lost 200g being looked after by OH and catsitters as don't think they got nearly as much down him as it takes soooo long even on good days when he will eat.
I tried Science diet turkey which he ate a teaspoon of and he's had 4 'back of spoons' of renal but that's it...mega sloooow tongue licking. Also jammed a 1/4 pepcid down him at the 3rd attempt.
Only good thing is that he now seems to be peeing normally. So am still worried but for different reasons now.
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Glad he is peeing okay now but dos'nt sound good on the eating front....argh swings and roundabouts! :hug: :hug: :hug:
Sending positive vibes Swampy's way~~~~~~~ ;)
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Poor Swampy, why cant catsitters do what they are told grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Poor Swampy .... so pleased he is peeing and hopefully now his mummy is back he will start eating again.
Sending lots and lots of love and cuddles to His Swampyness :Luv2:
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Aww, good luck with him.
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He only ate a tiny bit yesterday so went to the vets today. He got vit B, antibiotic injection (again) and a Periactin. He still only ate about 1/8th of an alutray of Specific and a tiny teaspoon of k/d. That licking up the really small bit of food (the periactin seems to have made him lick but not eat) went on for 45 mins with a break or two. We don't think it's his cold because although it's bad, it's no worse than at many times before when he's eaten well. It started suddenly anyhow this not eating, on thursday. He's also scratching at his bed with his front paws, which doesn't make any sense. The vet thinks that it's his dementia and he may be giving up. I have to try to get something down him and spend the day with him to reduce his agitation. It breaks my heart. He was doing so well on tues and wednesday but apparently it can go like that. I'm trying not to give up hope and to keep calm as it seems to affect him if I'm upset.
I may try some sardines in tomato sauce later. Vet says to warm the tin in hot water, then try. It's so awful to watch him come to the kitchen and look interested and then not eat. If he'll lick, I'm going to keep on trying the blended renal food too as that's soup like. I'm not sure what to do and nor is the vet.
He says if he give him cortisone tabs, that his cold will get even worse as it will lower his immune system. If anyone can help with ideas, much appreciated right now.
PS I modified my first post to change the title but it didn't work?
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Sending positive vibes to Swampy. Hopefully the injections will have some effect soon. :hug: :hug:
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i hope you can figure something out, but you might have to start thinking of his quality of life.
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Tell me what you want the title as and I will change it for you. ;D
It seems that swampy has gone downhill since you went away and maybe he is scared you are going to leave again, I would suspect its stress related.
I hope he picks up :hug: :hug:
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I think to "Swampy's not well at all" Gilly! ;)
C'mon Swampy....... :hug: :hug: :hug:
Defo seems stress related! ;)
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thanks yes, that's right. I modified the first post in the thread but it only changed it on that post. Although am quite tired and inept!
Swampy ate a little k/d chicken minced nosh (a 1/4 can in 2 meals - off a plate!!!!!) this morning. He won't touch his usual food so he's getting k/d instead. His coat looks shiny again too. I hope it's the antibiotics and vitamins kicking in and not a delayed 1 day reaction to the appetite pill, as the vet said that's a one day dose. (worry, worry of course). He was really helped by doing a mega phlegm whoops all over the rug this morning. His cold is a massive and untreatable problem. He can't have antibiotics all the time, but we may have to do a vit B injection weekly.
So far today there's not been any senior behaviour either, so please keep on sending all those good vibes his way :hug: and from the Swampcat :hug: :hug: (World's Most Kissed Furbabe).
Yes I feel very guilty about going away even though it wasn't a holiday. The first catsitter seemed to get on fine, the replacement not good (or it may be coincidence & he was ill).
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Sending lots of get well vibes for Swampy. I hope he picks up :hug:
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Sending healing vibes to Swampy :hug:
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More positive healing vibes coming Swampy's direction~~~~~~~ :hug: :hug:
>Dont feel guilty as you were not able to foresee what happened! ;)
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warm and caring vibes from my lot here. don't feel guilty, you can not be there 24 hours a day for anyone. Please don't beat yourself up. :hug: I am a firm believer that cats pick up on their humans' moods, so positive thoughts from you please! :hug: :hug:
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am a firm believer that cats pick up on their humans' moods, so positive thoughts from you please! :hug: :hug:
I second that! ;)
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Sending positive vibes to Swampy and :hug: :hug: :hug: to you.
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Lots of good vibes to Swampy :hug: :hug:
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I hope Swampy is feeling better today :hug:
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he ate a little k/d this morning. I've not really fed it as an entire diet so am not sure how much he would have to eat to maintain his weight or a reasonable weight. Anyhow he ate quite a bit of a can (less the stone like hard bits: why do they put those in? >:() yesterday, but he refused to eat while a friend was here for lunch. So lots of tlc, cuddles and I will try to be positive (ahem). At least I'll be home all day as fell over (nothing to do with wine at lunch) on an uneven pavement, turned my ankle and can't get down the 55 stairs today (Swampy may enjoy his mum hobbling around using a golf umbrella as a stick :rofl: ). His cold's awful though so maybe it was that combined with psychological issues. I know care for the elderly's a day to day thing. Thanks for all the messages of support and positive vibes :hug: it really helps.
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Sending lots of positive vibes to Swampy :hug:
And ouch, your poor ankle :-: Make sure you ice it to bring any swelling down, and keep it elevated if you can, it will help :hug:
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Poor Swampy,
Positive vibes coming your way :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Trying to feed him on and off throughout the flat (2 diff foods) from 7.30 to 9.15 and he's eaten under 1/4 can of k/d. He was sick early this morning and his cold is really bad today.
Is there anything for nausea that would work as I'm sure when he has this bad post nasal drip he swallows so much muck and that is why he is off his food. I've tried SEB but it didn't work well and he hated the huge capsule too (can't put it in his food). Pepcid doesn't seem to help his appetite.
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Hope Swampy picks up soon :hug:
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Gosh he's been having an awful time of it of late as have you! C'mon Swampy...we are all willing you to eat! :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Hope swampy starts to get his appetite back soon :hug:
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How is Swampy today? Hope he is feeling much better! :hug: :hug:
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Were you really up at 3am Bazsmum? :Crazy: worse than me!
Swampy did ok yesterday. Today's difficult again. Breakfast was taken in several locations and sloooowly - 45 mins with several breaks to eat a small plate, not even 1/4 can. He's a bit agitated and pawing at his bed again.
yesterday he found the front door open and I found him investigating my downstair's neighbour's stone lizard ornament thing that they leave on the landing. I carried him up and he megapurred. Most exciting thing that's happened to him for ages.
I hope he feels better later but thanks for asking, at least something's going down the hatch, even if not enough. What's difficult is that he doesn't have a "favourite food".
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Come on Swampy - sendind loads of good vibes and a portion of my HUGE appetite you wat! :hug:
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Hope Swampy ate a little better today.
Sending :hug:
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Were you really up at 3am Bazsmum? :Crazy: worse than me!
Yes my body clock is all to pot! :Crazy:
That's gonna be difficult if he dos'nt have a fave food....hope he manages to geta substantial amount down him! :hug:
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He's eaten a 1/4 can this morning, thanks for all the good vibes. I think maybe he was helped by Max polishing off his food when I turned my back, as he then went to sit on a chair and ate another tablespoonful! He now won't really eat his old diet of renal pouches and i/d. Only k/d with tiny bits of warm water. As that's unlikely to last, I've got to find something he finds irresistible.
Vet has given me sardines in tomato sauce for if he stops eating k/d or anything. I suppose I would extract the sardines and don't give him any tomato sauce? It's so difficult isn't it. He used to adore fresh chicken, take my hand off for it, now won't even touch a morsel.
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At least he ate something today. Hope he keeps it up and that your ankle is a little better today. :hug:
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Re: pilchard's in tomato sauce....unless there is a reason healthwise for not having it (although I doubt this very much with the vet giving you this) then there is no need to remove the sauce as my cats eat that also! ;)
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Sending a big healing hug to you and swampy :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Re: pilchard's in tomato sauce....unless there is a reason healthwise for not having it (although I doubt this very much with the vet giving you this) then there is no need to remove the sauce as my cats eat that also! ;)
Yes, definitely with the sauce - I think thats what attracts cats more than the sardines! If I have a meal with a tomatoey sauce, they are all very eager to clean the plate for me :evillaugh:
Hope Swampy keeps eating its horrible when they don't have an appetite isnt it? :hug:
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:hug: :hug: to you all for the positive vibes. I'm sure they are helping. He got a new can opened tonight as the old one looked manky (opened this morning but still, lots of hard little bits left) and he ate quite well tonight, about 1/6th can. I'm squirreling away his sardines in tomato sauce stash. He won't know what it is (never even had fish) but it stinks I suppose.
Ankle's much improved, thanks for asking!
let's hope we all have a good weekend and the sun shines!
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Lets hope the sun shines on Swampy and he eats more and more :hug:
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Yes hope the sun shine's on Swampy and all the poorly pusses! ;D
Glad he is eating better.....Keep it up Swamps! :hug: :hug: :hug:
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after a mega puke on the carpet this morning, caused probably by his cold, he's eaten reasonably again and is now happily installed on the windowsill lying on a cushion (only place we get sun from spring to autumn is the windowsills as we're under the roof :-[). The new young mum feral pigeon just below him is getting a terrible crick in her neck from watching him for hours on end to protect her egg, it's quite funny as Swampy can't really even see her out there and is ignoring her but she's very alarmed! I know we are supposed to loathe pigeons but she's young and quite sweet, v diligent pigeon-mum (until she gets big and monstrous and poos on the car that is) :Crazy:
happy and sunny weekend to all furbabes, poorly and not poorly. Enjoy it while it lasts!!
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Hope Swampy and yourself have had a good weekend healthwise and other? :hug:
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so far (and I get superstitious typing this) a good couple of days, a few rather senior moments aside. This morning however he did a weird disciplining rather dodgy number on Max. If I can work out - IF - how to post my video clip* of it I'll do so (don't hold your breath folks, it's a mac too so even more ???? for me). I know I should take it day by day, but am so hoping that warmer weather will help his cold = his health in general. Right now though, I enjoy the good days with him - even if Max doesn't! They are curled up together so can't be too bad.
* 50 secs AVI file. too big? No way will I work out how to edit it. :Crazy:
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Try loading it on photobucket and then shove the link on here ;D
Pleased for any good time you and swampy have :hug:
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Glad to hear that Swampy is having an okay time at the mo and that you are having some relief through this! :hug:
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thanks! many of you know the knot in your stomach when you approach with a plate of food to see if or just how much gets eaten! I've given up on the pouches now, he's pouch phobic since the catsitter (must have tried to force him to eat I think); just the chicken k/d's going down - no more spoons, off a hand-held plate but still 'mobile meals' taking 25 mins on a good day for a small plate. If Hills change their minced chicken food again, I will explode (or they might :censored:). I don't know how long it will last but am hugely enjoying the better days and am hoping that warmer weather brings fewer cold symptoms.
Btw anyone have any idea why Swampy paws frantically at his bedding when he's had enough to eat or wants a 'time out' from my holding his plate? It's a new thing and a bit odd. If I comfort him, he stops.
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Re: The pawing......he's either saying Ive had enough food or trying to cover it up for later! ;)
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Glad Swampy is eating and enjoying some sun
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Thanks! I think you are right, it's 'I've had enough' although sometimes he can be persuaded to eat a little more. Today's been more difficult because with this ahem "nice sunny bank holiday weather" his cold's kicked in again :( they are both snoring in a folded up duvet. very tempting idea.
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Here's hoping you are all having a good bank holiday.... :hug: :hug: