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Cat Rescue & Rehoming => Rescue & Rehoming General => Topic started by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 29, 2008, 21:56:09 PM
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There was a little confusion over the Persian's name, the guys mum said she was called Phoebe but she's actually called Baby and what a babe she is :Luv: :Luv: I think she is a dark tortie, I can't really tell :Crazy: She is in a real mess poor babe and thank god she is now going to get sorted. She is booked into the vets for Tuesday along with Becky, she is actually about 10 years old, Mike said he was married 8 years and his wife already had Baby and she was roughly about 2 then. She is a little fuss pot and loves having her chin scratched but she's also very shy at the moment which is understandable. I've left her in the carrier and put that straight in the cage so she's got somewhere to hide. I have a funny feeling she will be snapped up, she is just soooooo scrummy and her face is adoreable. I've taken piccies but they're not brilliant as she's trying to hide her face at the moment :Luv: but as soon as I can take some better ones, I will do :Luv2:
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Aww bless her, she's in good hands. :)
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Oh she IS in a bit of a state isnt she? - Yes, she looks like a tortie - dear little
Pheobe Baby :hug: Well done Dawn, bet it was a horrible journey?
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I just want to cry looking at those pics :'( She is even matted on her cheeks poor love :'( I pencilled her in for Tuesday at the vets not knowing what state she was in but I'm so glad I didn't wait until Monday to phone, usually when they say a cat has matts, you know they are in a state and the fact the RSPCA were involved, I wasn't sure what I was expecting.
The journey was awful, it peed it down and you couldn't see a bloody thing, I hate driving at night when it's raining >:(
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I thought she might be a tortie too but the state of her coat is very bad.
Poor girl she will feel so much better once she has been cleaned up and hope they are careful when they shave her cos sometimes cysts lurk under that type of coat.
I hope Baby will be fine :hug:
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Poor poor sweetheart but thankfully she is going to have a (probably her first) good night with you tonight. :Luv2:
Looks like a beautiful little cat who will no doubt flourish with some love - and the relief of a de-mat.
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Just in case - i pm'd you Dawn.
I would like to give her a home if thats possible - she is gorgeous :Luv: and would have a forever spoilt home here.
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Just in case - i pm'd you Dawn.
I would like to give her a home if thats possible - she is gorgeous :Luv: and would have a forever spoilt home here.
I'll speak to you over the next couple of days :hug: She is a little babe and she's now allowing me to give her big fusses :Luv: :Luv: She should be fine with other cats, she lived with a number of them as her owner was a breeder. I'll be able to suss her out more when she's been to the vets. I'll be phoning her old vets up on Monday to get confirmation on her vaccinations as Mike is pretty sure she is up to date, if not, I'll at least get her first one done and dependant on time scale, her second one as well. She will also be microchipped as well as she's used to going out, so may try and make a dart for the outdoors when she's rehomed :sneaky:
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Hi Dawn,
Thats great -thankyou.
All mine go outside anyway -i have a very large back garden- but would obviously keep in her in for a few weeks first.
Will be off now as feeding and looking after next doors cat as she is on holiday.
Its pretty safe round here too -unless you live here or visit there is no through road to get to anywhere else, so not a lot of traffic.
Can pm you my phone number too.
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Awwww bless her :hug:
Thank goodness Phoebe Baby is with you now :)
Sending her lots of love and gentle cuddles xx
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Have sent you a pm Dawn with my phone number .
Been trying to think of a new name for it -don''t really like baby !
Maybe i will have to have a poll too !! :rofl:
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I've spoken to Mike and asked what he thought would be best for Baby. I know I pm'd you earlier saying I wanted her as an indoor but thought I'd get his feel on things as well rather than rule out what sounds to be a fab home :shy: He said Baby had about 8 "homes" where she was, they live in a nice quiet area but being a typical Persian, she is, putting it nicely, dopey :shify: and she has had a couple of near misses with cars. She will also go up to anyone which isn't always a good thing as anyone could easily pick her up and put her in a car, so in light of all this, he does feel that an indoor home with a cat proofed garden is the best thing for her, and this is something I have to say I agree with. I would have loved for you to have her but sadly I wouldn't be comfortable rehoming her with free access to the outdoors :(
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Dawn I wonder if she went to lots of different people because she wasnt getting the attention at home? Persians are very people oriented, and if he's a lorry driver - presume he's away a lot/works long hours and what with the marriage break up and everything, she was probably just craving attention from other people. I expect with the right home she wouldnt feel any need to wander at all.
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I really don't agree with allowing persians to free roam - I'm sorry if any others do here but there are some right nasty people out there and I would just be on edge constantly. There is also the fact that persians are - well a bit thick and don't tend to be as 'streetwise' as some other cats. Yep you could say I am generalising but I personally couldn't take the risk.
The best solution is a safe catproofed garden in my opinion :shy:
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I expect with the right home she wouldnt feel any need to wander at all.
I think personally the worry is still there the fact I know she wanders. I guess this is down to the great indoor/outdoor debate really. I try and rehome most of my cats indoors and I always rehome pedigrees as indoors, more so because they have a higher risk of disappearing than a moggy. I'm not saying a moggies life is worth any less, but a pedigree on the loose, some people see £ signs and as Candice says, there are some evil people out there, I know as I've had 3 of my cats on the receiving end of it. I have told bunglycat I will give it some thought as she has said she is prepared to keep her indoors but whether she'd hack it with the others going out is another story. At the end of the day, I want to do what I feel is best for her or any cat in my care, she has to be priority. I know the evils of the world and have had first hand experience, and maybe people don't agree with keeping them in but I'm not sure I would feel comfortable not doing :shy:
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I had to sign a contract with Chapelhouse Persian Rescue that mine would be indoor only - which was fine really because I had no intention of letting them out.
A lot of breeders stipulate indoor only too.
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I do feel awful now but when Candice had FooFoo off me, it was on condition she was an indoor and I just assume rightly or wrongly, people on the forum know how I feel about letting them out :shy:
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Not all breeders insist on indoor homes, the breeder of Gwynnie didn't, nor did the breeder I got Joe, Sam, Lucy and Ben from - there is no need for persians to be indoor only just because they are persians. Mine all go outside, they have a cat proofed area near the house which I can close off from the rest of the garden at night time - but the rest of the time they all have access to the rest of the garden. The persians don't roam out of the garden - in theory they could, and they do climb fences and like to sit on high up places which may be next doors shed, but they like to be in sight of their own territory (and me LOL!). They are not 'roaming' cats in the sense of the word, like for instance my free spirit Harry the mog is!
But Dawn, when you're saying indoor - you're not meaning only indoor are you? - you mean with access to a 'safe' garden or cat run perhaps don't you? Indoor to me, means just that - indoors with no outdoor access which I'm afraid I've never believed in.
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The 4 persians i have don''t roam freely - i do have a large back garden- it has a 6 and a half foot fence down one side , a 5 foot wire fence at the bottom ( theres a field over the fence there ) and a 3 foot fence the other side -when you come to the back door its surrounded by about a 15 foot wall and a 6 foot gate .
The only way they can get out is if they go into the field over the back fence -or into the neighbours on the lower side fence -this neighbour is an friendly old man who does not mind if they do go in his garden as he only cuts it about once a year - it looks like a field !!! :rofl:
Funnily enough -maybe due to them having such a luxurious home here ( there are outdoor scratchers in the garden too and a bench and cushion for them to sit on ) they actually don''t go out of the back garden at all.
If they wanted to go out the gate -it would mean me pysically opening it.
i am at home all day and every time any of them go out into the garden -so do i .
I stop what i am doing and watch them or sit on the bench with them.
Come 6.30 pm they are all in and the door locked ( i don''t have a cat-flap)
They are only outside when i am at home - i have never left them outside unattended .
I do live in a very safe area and there are lots of cats on here and there is no through road.
I am also willing to get a very large crate so she could sit in the garden and get used to it and i would stay with her.
I have never lost a cat yet in 30 years of ownership - the cats i have had in the past have died through illness ( kiney disease -1998 and FIP , AND Leukemia about 1994 , way before there was a vaccine for it)
I absolutely worship my cats and only live to make their lives happy .
Will leave it with you - but she would be so loved and cared for here .
I would like to cat proof the garden if i could afford it -but it is rented property ( 2 bed semi - been here nearly 10 years )
Also its a very large garden ( well it seems it when cutting it ! :rofl: ) and there are 3 very big trees right across the middle bit .
No idea how this could be done -and what happens if i move -could it come with me ? ( the cat proof fence !!)
I would never move anywhere that i couldn''t take my cats , near a busy road -or anywhere i would not consider suitable for them - me - as long as i have them thats all that matters - i can turn a house into a home !)
Just trying to tell the situation as it is as obviosly no -one can see - but i can post pics if someone can help me resize them !!!
I posted the pics before as they were resized - but no idea on how to do it with Vista -XP was easy .
Sorry for the really long post !!!
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If you email the pictures I will put them up for you ;D
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Thanks Gill -thats great - heres one i found of Winston in the garden -this is already resized ( some were done before i swapped to Vista)
Whats your email please Gill.?
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Winston is gorgeous ;D
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But Dawn, when you're saying indoor - you're not meaning only indoor are you? - you mean with access to a 'safe' garden or cat run perhaps don't you? Indoor to me, means just that - indoors with no outdoor access which I'm afraid I've never believed in.
With access to a cat proofed garden, as I think with Phoebe but I don't know until I suss her, the fact she was going out for so long, totally indoor might not be suitable. Views on indoor/outdoor are always going to be different. I do have some of my own cats that are totally indoor and they are extremely happy but I have the odd one of mine that does mither to go out, it depends on the cat. I had 3 of mine poisoned so my views on indoor/outdoor are different to what they were 3 years ago but I'm also aware of how many pedigree/moggie cats disappear off the face of the earth as well, so this is also an issue for me.
Bunglycat, I could tell talking to you, your cats are all extremely loved and pampered :hug:
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Thanks Gill -thats great - heres one i found of Winston in the garden -this is already resized ( some were done before i swapped to Vista)
Whats your email please Gill.?
I just love that piccie of Winston, he is soooooo scrummy :Luv2: :Luv2:
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Funnily enough -maybe due to them having such a luxurious home here ( there are outdoor scratchers in the garden too and a bench and cushion for them to sit on ) they actually don''t go out of the back garden at all.
If they wanted to go out the gate -it would mean me pysically opening it.
i am at home all day and every time any of them go out into the garden -so do i .
I stop what i am doing and watch them or sit on the bench with them.
Come 6.30 pm they are all in and the door locked ( i don''t have a cat-flap)
They are only outside when i am at home - i have never left them outside unattended .
I do live in a very safe area and there are lots of cats on here and there is no through road.
I am also willing to get a very large crate so she could sit in the garden and get used to it and i would stay with her.
That sounds almost exactly how I am with my lot! If they are out in the garden its usually because I've gone out in the garden to do a bit of gardening or to hang the washing out - they like to be where you are don't they? When I open the gate from the cat proofed area in the morning they all rush out, examine the garden to check that everything was how they left it!, then rush back in again for breakfast. Then its sleep all day, another little excursion into the garden late afternoon, back in for tea, then sleep all evening LOL! The gate to the garden is then closed mid evening, until morning again.
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Click on mt name and my email addy in profile ;D
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Where did you get that tree wotsit that Winston is sleeping in? I can imagine my lot loving one of them in the summer ;)
If you are interested in cat proofing then I would suggest you speak to Roz at Secur-A-Cat and explain you garden to her - she is very helpful. It sounds like you have a much larger garden than I have - postage stamp comes to mind! You could also take a look at Purrfect Fencing.
The Secur-A-Cat system is definitely moveable - I'm going to have to replace my fencing this year so will have to dismantle and then put back up :tired: The thought of unscrewing the 100+ of screws and then rescrewing them is not something I'm looking forward too :shocked:
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Gill -i have emailed you -there are about 5- 6 pics -so a big file -thankyou very much for doing this.
Just wanted to show the size of garden and how happy they all are ( seems Winston is always in the photos !!!)
Money is not good with me as not in work due to health issues ( not on deaths door though !)
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I bet they still uploading from your end :rofl: :rofl:
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No , it has gone - where though ?? :rofl: :rofl:
I think one or two may be ok for size !?
The thing that Winstons sleeping in is a bit wind battered now -it came from The Supreme cat show at Birmingham about 5 years ago.
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The3y have arrived and will cross over two posts ;D
Cats are gorgeous ;D
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The rest of the pictures
And Smartie the grey oine says this enough to make a cat laugh ;D
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Wow Gill !! Thats great and dead quick -How do you do that ???
Thankyou -they look great - poor Soph not on any ! She only potters outside for around 10mins a day -bit more often when the weathers better -she is nearly 14 .
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Here''s a resized Sophie i found -can't leave her out !!! She is a bit camera shy - i get the camera out and she disappears or follows me !!!
and Smartie helping with the washing .
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What lucky furbabes :wow: I love the little cat houses as well, where did those come from :shy:
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Will have a look at the fencing -but its only wooden fencing down one side and strong mesh/wire at the bottom and side .
The trees are right across the middle and both end ones are very close to the fence and are about 20-25 feet high .
If it could be done -i would look about trying to sell some stuff to get the money together .
I did some cat shows for a couple of years - i gave some to rescues and some paid the vet bills.
I have quite a large amount of diamonte cat designs and t-shirts left -if i could sell all them it would probanly pay for the cat-proof fencing if it can be done ??
I would say the garden is at a very rough estimate 80 feet long and around 60 feet wide - that is very roughly -will have to measure !
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ebay Dawn ! I think they were about £45 delivered about 3 years ago -they have vet bedding in ,fleece on top and one has the thermal squashy metallic cushiony thing in under the fleece as Winston like sitting in it even if its cold!
They have great snuggly beds inside to - great beds , deep warm and fleecy also off ebay .
The school my neice works at is Flintshire High school - i rang and ask her tonight.
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ebay Dawn ! I think they were about £45 delivered about 3 years ago -they have vet bedding in ,fleece on top and one has the thermal squashy metallic cushiony thing in under the fleece as Winston like sitting in it even if its cold!
They have great snuggly beds inside the house too - great beds , deep warm and fleecy also off ebay .
The school my neice works at is Flintshire High school - i rang and ask her tonight.
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ebay Dawn ! I think they were about £45 delivered about 3 years ago -they have vet bedding in ,fleece on top and one has the thermal squashy metallic cushiony thing in under the fleece as Winston like sitting in it even if its cold!
They have great snuggly beds inside the house too - great beds , deep warm and fleecy also off ebay .
The school my neice works at is Flintshire High school - i rang and ask her tonight.
Could you try and find out who the seller was, they look fantastic ;D Which Flintshire High School as there are a few or was it Flint High School
Will have a look at the fencing -but its only wooden fencing down one side and strong mesh/wire at the bottom and side .
I think if the garden was cat proofed, I would have no issues whatsoever in you homing Phoebe, everything else is just perfect :Luv: :Luv:
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that garden looks pretty persian proof to me and a garden that size would cost a fortune to cat proof.
i wish i had fences that high, well on one side at least.........sigh
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Will have a look tomorrow Dawn -not sure if he still sells on there as i haven''t seen any more like it .
Yes, think its Flint High school.
Don''t know how i could get the garden cat proofed really - if i could sell all those cat designs and t-shirts -that would help and then someone may have to look at it to see how it could be done.
The wooden fence is about 6feet and the bootom about 5 feet and the other side around 3 feet - its just so big and awkward due to the trees!!
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Here are the snuggle beds -this seller is great and still sells on ebay -also had igloo off her which is really great too.
One of the pics of the cat diamonte -there are about 10 different designs.
Just had a thought -the cats could only get over the fence if they jump onto the concrete posts -they have never jumped on the wire as it moves - i have only ever seen Winston go over and he jumped onto the posts - if we could put somthing in front of the posts !??
They will never get over the wooden one -its way too high and straight - so nothing to climb onto !
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They are living in Pud's Paradise :Luv: :Luv: Can you pm me the seller of the snuggle beds, mine would love them ;D
Flint High School is about 6 miles away from me, I really don't envy her working there :scared:
Just had a thought -the cats could only get over the fence if they jump onto the concrete posts -they have never jumped on the wire as it moves - i have only ever seen Winston go over and he jumped onto the posts - if we could put somthing in front of the posts !??
They will never get over the wooden one -its way too high and straight - so nothing to climb onto !
It may be worth having a chat with Roz and seeing if she can suggest something, hopefully she can :hug: Is Winston the one that goes in your neighbours garden?
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Have sent you a pm Dawn with ebay seller on .
Off in a minute -got to go and tax my car tomorrow.
Wish i could win one of these competitions i keep entering every day -£10000 should sort the garden out for me .
As i said though -i have no problem with mine going out of it !
Dawn, you are more than welcome to come over for a bite to eat and take a good look round here anytime you can if you would like to do.
They are living in Pud's Paradise :Luv: :Luv: Can you pm me the seller of the snuggle beds, mine would love them ;D
Flint High School is about 6 miles away from me, I really don't envy her working there :scared:
Well Tracey is pretty dominant and Very bossy - so maybe they are good for her !!?? :evillaugh:
Just had a thought -the cats could only get over the fence if they jump onto the concrete posts -they have never jumped on the wire as it moves - i have only ever seen Winston go over and he jumped onto the posts - if we could put somthing in front of the posts !??
They will never get over the wooden one -its way too high and straight - so nothing to climb onto !
It may be worth having a chat with Roz and seeing if she can suggest something, hopefully she can :hug: Is Winston the one that goes in your neighbours garden?
How do i get hold of Roz??
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Thanks hun :hug:
How do i get hold of Roz??
I'll try and find her number for you tomorrow, off to bed now as I've got vets tomorrow :hug: :hug:
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I've had a chat with Roz today and I've sent her the link to this thread, she said she'll pop on later and if you want, I can put you in touch :hug:
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Thanks Dawn -thats great -will have a chat with her.
How is phoebe today ?
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She's fine :Luv: She is a little growly when she spots the other cats but it's early days and everything's strange to her at the moment. She is going to have her last feed shortly as I don't really want her eating too late as I think she'll be under quite a while in the morning, so it's just to be on the safe side. I will get some more piccies later as well, I've got her out of the cat carrier now so should be able to get a couple of good ones of her gorgeous mush :Luv: :Luv:
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Yes, my vet tells me not to feed after 6pm - But last time Smartie pinched some biscuits from upstairs i forgot to move :sneaky: and it was about 6.50pm ,so had to ring the vet straight away to check it was still ok for the morning andf she said yes -so i think saying 6pm was a little cautious?!
Gladshe is ok -hope all goes well with anasethtic .
Think Smartie was under a bit as he had teeth cleaned and the op !.
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My other vets say 6pm but this one state 7pm. I'm not sure what she'll need doing tbh :shy: Shah took an hour and half to do when he was in, and I have a horrible feeling Phoebe won't be far behind, she will also need teeth checking and if any work needs doing on them, it will be done at the same time. I'm sure she'll be fine, she seems healthy but underneath the fur, you don't really know what's lurking and until it's all come off, I won't know how skinny or fat she is :tired: I was having a feel last night but with her matts, it hard to tell just how much weight she has on her.
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Well, at least i didn''t have that problem with Smartie -nice healthy weight around 13lb and Winston -well around 16 lb !!! He actually looked really cute when he was shaved all over -his matts were as bad as Phoebes ! Owner hadn''t combed/brushed him for about 2 years !!!
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anyone on here called Roz tonight ?
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If Roz comes on its usually very late ;D
Her Purrs name is Roz
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And you can check by going to the bottom of this page
http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php
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Thanks Gill - just wanted to ask about the cat -proof fencing-but think i would have to win some money to pay for it !!!
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You can always send her a pm ;D
There was one in the auction last Christmas and cant remember how much it was worth now , about £350 plus P&P I think and it would do a a small garden and think you would need two plus.
If you look in the auction and search down the threads Roz explains it all there and think it was Helen Tiggys Mum that won it.
I know they are very good but above my pocket too and my garden about 100' x 24'
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Just a thought, have you tried the rescues in your area for a Persian? I'm not trying to put you off but I'm just thinking with the distance involved, if things didn't work out it's a long way for her to come back :shy:
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Hi, Yes, i have Dawn -but there wasn''t any .
I really want to give a home to one thats had a rough life and been neglected - so the cat can have a forever loving and spoilt home and no-one will ever let him/her down again.
I don' t mind if they have one eye or 3 legs - just another persian i can spoil. :Luv:
I have just recieved a message from Roz and will give her a ring tomorrow as i am home all day tomorrow and wednesday.
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Here's another pic of the gorgeous Phoebe :Luv2: :Luv2:
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She is so beautiful - i can''t believe she has had to live outside - is she thin too ?
Wonder what she has been fed on /eaten ?
Winston turned his nose up at M+ S prawns last night - BECAUSE they were the large ones (even though i broke them up for him) - he prefers the smaller ones and i couldn''t get them last time !
I took them upstairs last night /this morning with biscuits and water ( as i do every night in case they get hungry ) and the minute i put the light out and couldn't' see him - he ate them all ! - i switched the light on when i heard someone eating them :sneaky: - i knew it was him as the others don''t like them at all !!
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I can feel her backbone easily but it's hard to tell under all her fur. She was fed by a few of the locals as well but I think alot of it being outside was her choice by the sounds of it. The other thing Candice and I were thinking, if she's matted, maybe being indoors was a little too warm for her or she craved the company with her owner not being there, it's hard to say but at least Mike's done the right thing for her and she'll have a fab future to look forward to :Luv:
Most of mine love prawns especially Tiger who is one of my ferals, I actually tamed him down using prawns, he just couldn't resist :evillaugh: Food wise I'm not sure what exactly she was on, he said she had cat biscuits and loved pouches but I'm not sure what brand, I didn't ask as mine are all on the Royal Canin anyway so any that come here, that's what they get.
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Winston has Felix pouches , but never eats a whole one at a time and then totally will not eat the rest of it later ! so, it goes to waste (enough waste to feed 3 more cats at the end of the day -goes outside for other cats and hedgehogs as i feel bad throwing so much good food away every day -there a real big bowlful every night !
Soph and Bungly will eat a bit of felix , but mainly whiskers supermeat and thats all Smartie will eat -supermeat chicken.
They all have biscuits - Royal canine persian , James Wellbeloved and Smartie is mainly on Hills c/d , but i mix a small handful of the others in as he isn''t that keen on it.
They get ham for a treat and Winston fish/prawns ( the other 3 don''t like either fish or prawns) .
Mine get plenty of my company as i only go out about twice a week in the day and never at night !
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Other thing I meant to mention, I checked with the vets today and there is no records of her so I will be getting her vaccinated as well. I was really surprised at this as Mike was sure she would have been up to date but this was his wifes domain, but being a breeder it's a little naughty and I'm now wondering if she's actually been spayed :tired: This is another thing the vets will have to check tomorrow, I'm hoping she will have a visible scar but depending on how long ago she was done if she was, this might not be obvious :sigh:
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or she craved the company with her owner not being there, it's hard to say
I mentioned that before! - as I said, it highly likely that once in a stable home she won't want to wander, and with all the space Bunglycat's got available - I doubt she'd ever want to leave the boundaries of the garden! ;D Persians arent known for wandering - if they do its for a reason, like lack of attention in their own home etc.
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I have heard instances where they have tried to get out, Fabes decided to make the great escape once and Candice had a right job getting him back :shy:
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If I tried to keep Olivia in I think she would ge berserk. I am very fortunate in that everyone knows of the mad cat woman in their street so all my cats are very safe including Olivia. She does have the typical persian dippiness though. She goes out the front catflap, over the side gate, round to the back and then sits for hours waiting to be let in through the dog gate. When you finally let her in she goes out the front catflap, over the side gate, rount to the back and sits at the dog gate again. :doh:
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I have heard instances where they have tried to get out, Fabes decided to make the great escape once and Candice had a right job getting him back :shy:
I don't know how he managed it but he got on top of the garage, by the time I scrambled on top of the wheelie bin and onto the roof he jumped down :tired:
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Yes, i am also known as the mad cat woman round here too -although there are people on here with more cats than me .
In fact the couple that live at the bottom of the street have taken in 6 i think now that people have left behind when they moved and the street opposite -they have 10 - 2-3 with 3 legs and one with one eye - also all strays !
I have also "rehomed"! a few that have been neglected or left behind .
I know a really nice lady about 8 miles away who has a lovely cattery and also does Lincoln cat care and i have turned up on several occasions with cats and she has re-homed them for me .
One was a very neglected , matted and starved tortie persian - would have kept her -but the owners lived just round the corner :sneaky:
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Hope Phoebe is okay tonight after having all that done at the vets .
Poor little girl - hope she had a visible scar from spaying -awful to have to be opened up and then found it had already been done before ! :(
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or she craved the company with her owner not being there, it's hard to say
I mentioned that before! - as I said, it highly likely that once in a stable home she won't want to wander, and with all the space Bunglycat's got available - I doubt she'd ever want to leave the boundaries of the garden! ;D Persians arent known for wandering - if they do its for a reason, like lack of attention in their own home etc.
Cats are lazy creatures, they only wander when they want something, at her age she isnt likely to go far at all. Hopefully bungly will get to know soon whether to carry on their search elsewhere
Lesley, your Olivia sounds adorable :Luv:
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Phoebe has come back bald bless her :evillaugh: She has a scar from being spayed so that's a relief, all teeth are fine, her anal glands were heaving :sick: :sick: so they've now been emptied, she weighs in at 4 kgs, she's also been microchipped today and she looks adoreable :Luv2: :Luv2:
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Ahh, bless her - glad they found the scar -would have been awful for her otherwise !
Please she came round from anasethtic too -sending her big :hug: :hug: :Luv: :Luv2:
Rang Roz -but no-one there this afternoon.
Measured the garden !- 75 feet down the side and 33 feet wide -the bottom bit at 33 feet wide also has a very big elderberry tree taking up a fair bit of space ( forgot about that tree !!) Not suitable for cat climbing either -too thin and bendy branches !
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How is Phoebe today ?
Any new pics yet -when you have time !
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Sorry, had a lot on my mind today :tired: Phoebe is adoreable and is so much happier since she's been shaved bless her :Luv: :Luv: I had to resort to buying her some Go Cat this morning as she's not really been eating the RC food that I've put in with her, but she demolished that as soon as she saw it :-: Hopefully by the time she leaves here, she will have decided RC is a much better alternative ;) I'll take some piccies later and post them on here :hug:
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Thanks Dawn- just rang Roz again -but no answer -left a message and also emailed her just now .
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Any pics yet of little Bald Phoebe ? :Luv:
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Here she is :Luv:
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Awwww BLESS her!!!
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Beautiful baldy girl - she would make a fab girlfriend for Fabes don't you think :rofl:
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Oh my goodness - she's nakeeeed! LOL! :evillaugh:
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Beautiful baldy girl - she would make a fab girlfriend for Fabes don't you think :rofl:
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She certainly would, they would look gorgeous together and Fabes meets with my approval :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
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at least Fabes has his VERY stylish fur boots for the cold!
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I love all CS's persians, they are all absolutely scrummy but I have a real soft spot for the gorgeous Fabes :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
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Hi Gill,
Just caught up with this thread and am feeling really guilty now....like I've been skiving off school..... :naughty: I think I was doing my post when you rang yesterday and today I was visiting my dad in hospital. I have tried returning your calls (honest...) but it would seem that we are doomed to keep missing each other. :doh:
I promise I will telephone you tomorrow morning and discuss the cat-proofing system with you. I am now up-to-date with the lovely Phoebe or Baby and have to agree with everyone else that she is beautiful.....if a little lacking in the hair department. :evillaugh:
I'm sure she won't mind swapping the delights of the local Rugby Club for a plateful of fresh prawns. It sounds like she's been quite a resourceful little 'babe' during her free living period. Let's hope she hasn't picked up any bad habits while she's been running about town....not if she's to go to a decent, respectable household where the boys have been reared in the gentle arts. I blush to think what might happen. ;)
Did you mean Lucy at Lincoln Cat Care? I know Lucy quite well and she has her garden cat-proofed with our system. In fact, she was one of our first customers. She's a lovely young woman and works tirelessly for the cats.
I've noted how large your garden is....and will go through it in more detail tomorrow.
Best wishes,
Roz
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Roz - i have to go out in the morning !
Will be back for 3.30 and in all the rest of the day !
I don''t know Lucy ? all i know is Jenny from Carlton Cattery as i met her when she Lincoln Cat Protection when i first moved up here - thats where Smartie came from.
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Oh my, - what a pair :rofl: :rofl:
Smartie won''t compare -he only has a bald bum ! and thats starting to grow back now - Winston looked like her when i first got him and had him shaved -only had little boots , bottom half of his tail and his head -looked really cute .
When i took him back for his second injection ( never had any since he was a kitten and he was 4 then !!) someone insulted him and ask if it was a poodle in the basket -poor boy !
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someone insulted him and ask if it was a poodle in the basket -poor boy !
When I had Shah in the vets, a lady said "oh, look at that little scottie dog", I then informed her he was a cat :rofl:
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Have spoke to Roz today about the fencing -am just in the process of emailing her some pics of the garden i took today - not resixed i am afraid -so will take a bit getting there !
Also got pic to email to you (too big to put on here and can''t resize it !( will have to find time to learn to do this )the pic is of Winston in his wooden house wioth patio !
How is she today ? Bet she is feeling better by the day now ! :Luv:
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Awww I love that piccie and I want one of those houses ;D Phoebe is absolutely fine, and seems to have settled in a treat. She's got a little heated bed which she absolutely loves and she's eating a lot better now as well :Luv: :Luv:
Here's the piccie of Winston so everyone can see how gorgeous he looks with his little house :Luv: :Luv:
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Hi ,
Had a busy day - but have spoken to my brother and he says " he is quite capable of cat -proofing my garden for me " !
I am not sure which way to go at the moment -solid fencing panels -or have seen a 6 foot high roll of strong wire fencing -similar to whats already there - thought we could double up halfway down or something and do the bendy bit at the top to stop them climbing ( although i doubt they will ) i only see Winston jump onto the posts to get over ,he doesnt jump on the wire as its bendy !
The other is to get fence panels and the put mesh wire or trellis stuff on top .
Will be checking out prices tomorrow .
The old guy next door (house not detached to mine though ) might be moving out in July as he retires and going back home down south ( not sure if its this July or next year)
The house will be done up and sold then -so will get that done now anyway -don''t know who will move in !?
Will try and get something i can either sell or take with me when i eventually move - could be 3-4 years away -depending when i get offered somwhere .
So, in short - yes i will be cat -proofing the garden .
The fields at the bottom iof my garden i found out today are going to have some trees planted in them and a lake ,sometime in the next 2 years !!!
So sorry to read about Beanie , Dawn - bet you are gutted and angry ! :(
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That's fab news about the garden, you've made my day :hug: :hug: :hug:
So sorry to read about Beanie , Dawn - bet you are gutted and angry ! :(
Thanks, Beanie really got to me the moment I saw her, I feel gutted but hopefully she won't have died in vain.
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Must admit -the old guy has been great -wish he wasn''t going - never heard him , rarely saw him and he didn;t give a dam if Winston went in the garden ( or me fetching him back either :naughty: )
Anyone could move in when it goes up for sale though -so might put fencing panels down and block it off alltogether .
Maybe half and half at the bottom as the view is so good and wouldn''t want to block that out completely .
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Does that mean you'll be wanting a homecheck soon :naughty:
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Looks that way ! ;D
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:happy dance: That's brilliant, I am sooooo pleased :)
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Hi Gill,
I'm delighted to read that you haven't been daunted by my e-mail to you last night explaining about the problem with the height of the fence that divides your garden from your neighbour's. And you have even been onto your brother to discuss the installation. I'm well impressed! It looks like Phoebe is on her way! ;D
I'll wait to hear from you re the fence panels. You could go for the same chainlink fencing but increase the height to 1.8m (6ft) ...our system works well with chainlink...or you could have some new wooden panels fitted. Either way, it will work just fine. I was just worried that the whole thing would work out so expensive for you.
I'll follow Phoebe's progress (towards Lincoln) with interest.
Best wishes,
Roz
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Hi Roz,
Well , don''t know how long i will be here -maybe a few more years !
As the guy next door will definately be leaving either this July or next ( seem to think its this July -will ask him tomorrow if i see him)-anyone could move in and may not like cats -so it will have to be done and may as well get it sorted now !
I don''t know what cost will be - will have to plough through it somehow and sell a few things if necessary and get what i can and then a bit more at a time.
The bottom fence is actually 4 foot ( measured it today -so will be sorting that out too .) thinking of wooden panels for the bottom ( taking the wire up thats there and putting that above the wood to get the height to 6 foot !?- don''t want to take away the view too much at the bottom .
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Hi Gill,
Another nightbird!
You can just replace the whole thing with the same chainlink but higher. Then you will be able to see the lovely view that you have now and if they intend to plant trees and build a lake, then it doesn't sound as though they will be building housing estates on it at some time in the future...which is always a worry anywhere these days!
Keep me posted on any developments.
Best wishes,
Roz
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Hi Roz,
Yes, just got out of the bath and the cats have all been groomed tonight -so have had a smallish bowl of ham each for being good .
Going to bed in a mo :yawn: :yawn:
Saw a roll of this chainlink type fencing on ebay -i think it was 25 metres yds long and 6 foot high for around £70 delivered -but no posts - not sure if thats a good price or not !?
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Thanks for all your help with this Roz :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Hi again Gill,
Those pampered Persians!!
I'm not up to speed on the price of fencing either but I can ask the guys tomorrow. You will need posts: either concrete or metal would suffice for chainlink.
Like you, I'm off to bed in a mo.....just done the rounds...topping up food bowls to help the little gits get through the night. It's a hell of a life ha ha! :tired:
Speak tomorrow.
Roz
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Yaaayyyy!! Great news :) :)
I put up Roz's system myself so I'm sure your brother will sort it in no time at all. :)
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Anyone know cheapest place to buy this chainlink fencing or any 6 foot fencing -needs to be around 100 foot !
Saw a 25 metre roll on ebay for £69.99 delivered - is that cheap ?
Thanks
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How is Phoebe doing now Dawn ?
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Just wondered how Phoebe is and Shah in his new home .
Have pmd you today -fencing arriving tomorrow ! ;D
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Phoebe is absolutely fine, quite verbal and a little fuss pot :Luv: :Luv: I've not introduced her to the other cats as yet but will be doing over the next week or so. Good news about the fencing :hug:
Shah will be going to his new home on Saturday so we will keep you all posted :)
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Fencing has arrived and is being put up next week !
Will post pics when its all done .
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;D That's great news :hug:
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Hows Phoebe doing mixing with the others - are they getting on okay ?
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I've not tried her yet but will be doing over the next few days ;)
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Just wondered how Phoebe is doing now - is she mixing ok ?
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She's not brilliant but is getting better. I'm sure she'll be fine as long as she has her own space but in saying that, she's just this second jumped onto the dryer and is lying next to Midge :Crazy: She will need time to settle with the others but if you take it slow, I can't see any problems, she's only been loose with mine for a few days and she's so much better :)
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how's the catproofing going bungly??
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Not- at the moment !
Every time i think its going to get done -it rains all day !
The fencing is all stacked up ready to be done.
The man who lives at the bottom of the street is doing it for me and he tried twice last week in between his night shift and it poured with rain wed, thurs and frid all day !!!
He is on days this week , so hopefully depending on weather , this week end or early next week.
Its very frustrating -but we had a thunderstorm yesterday and rain and its just been raining again just now !
It will only take him a day , but i feel like i have been waiting for ages !
He is only charging £50 to do it , so i can''t keep hassling him -he spends the week-end with his wife and small daughter together as they don''t see each other much with both working - so he doesn''t like doing dd jobs on saturday , so maybe sunday or beginning of next week - depending on the rain.
I can't expect him to work all day in the rain for £50 really !
Can''t wait to get it done though - will be able to sit with patio door open at night and know they cant get out of the garden .
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it's definately not a cold weather job, we nearly froze our fingers off! hope the weather stays clear for you soon!
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Hi Dawn,
Any update /photos of Phoebe ? :Luv2:
Fingers crossed ,fencing should be done this week-end ( lets hope weather doesn''t change before then !)
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Phoebe's fine, still a little growly but getting better all the time. I'll post some more piccies as soon as I get chance :hug:
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When finances get sorted out -thinking of getting some kind of pen ( i have room and its a sheltered spot with brick wall about 12 foot high on 3 sides -looks ideal to fit a pen into and opposite my back door) then i can do a bit of rescue here -it might help some cats in the future !
Bet Phoebes coat is growing now - Smarties bald spot is nearly grown back !
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Any piccies ready yet?
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The fencing has been started today and its over half done :yayyy: :yayyy:
At last and it went really well -should have stuck wih my brother doing it in the first place and it would be finished by now !
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Update on Phoebe. She's doing really well and is an absolute sweetheart but after careful consideration, she really needs to be an only cat. She has tolerated the odd one of mine but the next thing, she'll be whacking them :sneaky: I think although she may or may not tolerate another, I feel with her age and everything, if she's going to be truly happy, that would not include another cat. Cat proofing is also a definite :tired: The last few weeks she has escaped twice, the first time she was gone getting on a week, had to put an ad in the paper just in case anyone had taken her in, and then she sauntered back as if nothing had happened :sneaky: The second time she got out, she came back the following day so although she would return, she needs safe outdoor access but definitely not free reign. I'm gutted that she doesn't like other cats as I know Bunglycat could have given her the perfect home but Phoebe's happiness has to come first, and I'm sure somewhere out there will be the perfect addition to Bungly's family. I will take some more piccies of Phoebe and hopefully post the next couple of days, I've been up to my eyes in it and feeling absolutely drained at the mo so have got a lot to catch up on :hug:
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Thanks for the update Dawn - still looking forwards to pics of the little madam !!
I will just wait until another needy persian that does like other cats comes in -i think with Winston it would have to be a gentle female -not a male though.
Bungly came after him and she has not got a nasty bone in her body - never spits at the others and adores Winston and follows him about .
Had a nice long talk with your Hubby - i guess he told you.
Fencing is almost finished -all panels are up and they are coming back in a few days to chain link the bottom ( i am going to put screening of some sort -brushwood sandwiched between -as there is already 4ft high chainlink there and this done halfway down will double it and take it to 6 and a half feet high and screened about 3 foot in the middle without spoiling the view )
Can still buy the netting and straps them later to put on the posts all round and it will be properly cat proofed with a double gate too at the top end ( fortnox!!)
Will take pics when all done.
Got pics in the purrs cat show with them in the garden in a few pics.
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shame Pheobe has turned into such a madam! Don't worry Bungly, persians seem to need rehoming very regularly so I don't suppose you'll have to wait long
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A couple of pics of the gorgeous Phoebe :Luv: Her fur is growing slightly now but I think it will be a while before she has a full coat ;)
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Oh Dawn, she is so beautiful -why does she have to be such a madam and not like other cats - she would love it here ( Winston has prawns on saturdays -i am sure she would have enjoyed them!!)
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I'm gutted about it Gill :( I know you would have given her a fab home :hug: She is a contrary Mary, Benjy is lying next to her on the dryer at the moment and she's fine with him but you can bet your bottom dollar, she'll be whacking him shortly :sneaky: I spoke to her previous owner about her last week, he said she was with another cat up to a few months ago but the other was in charge and kept Phoebe in her place. It's hard to say what's happened to her when she had free access, maybe she was attacked by other cats so she's a little wary of them now :shy: She may just need longer to settle with other cats but the problem is, it's a long way for her to go if it doesn't work out :tired:
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Hmmmm a naughty tortie then ;D
She is sweet ;D
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Well Winston does keep the girls in check ( and Smartie as he is so soft !) :rofl:
Sophie does hide behind doors and jump out on Winston and then they take it in turns to chase each other round the bedrooms ( not bad going considering Sophie is 14 !), Bungle just follows him and throws herself on the floor and rolls at his feet !!! :Luv2:
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I adopted a 15 year old persian, Milly, whose owner couldnt cope with the fact that she was beating up her other two cats. Well, she took a good year to settle in with all my lot (I think I had 11 or so at the time) and she would lash out anytime any of them dared to walk past her - I was always on hand to divert the behaviour, although the others didnt seem particularly bothered by her - they used to give her a sort of a 'yeh, whatever' look LOL!. She eventually settled in completely and would curl up and sleep with the others quite happily, in fact she would seek them out, especially Joe as she'd formed quite a bond with him. She was 19 when she died and Joe was bereft for a while and kept curling up behind the settee in the exact spot she'd taken to sleeping in when she became ill.
So it is possible for a cat that appears to not like other cats to settle in well with a group, as long as the intros are done carefully, it can just take time.
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When i first went to get Winston - i did ask the man if he was ok with other cats and he said "oh yes ,he''s fine" the little boy piped up "no he isn''t dad , he beats them all up !!".
I just did the intros very gradually and yes , they didn''t get on for a long while .
When i let him outside , he would sit in the field and any cat that dare approach my house within 100 yards , he went after them and i caught him fighting ( and heard him , he has a distinctive voice !) on several occasions .
He is now 10 years old and i haven''t seen him do this for a few years now - and he gets on great with the others too .
He still doesn''t like it if a cat comes too close to the house , but he just stares at them now , but doesn''t bother giving chase.
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A revival here now !
Looks like Phoebe will be coming to me after all :yayyy: :yayyy:
Had the fencing all finished now too ( will post pics later on when i get time)
Dawn thinks she should be ok and maybe its because she doesnt have her own space at Dawns and thats why she is crabby with her cats .
Finfers crossed now she should be here in another week or so when Dawn has time to bring her over nd see my place.
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A revival here now !
Looks like Phoebe will be coming to me after all :yayyy: :yayyy:
Had the fencing all finished now too ( will post pics later on when i get time)
Thats brilliant news :wow: I'm sure Pheobe will be fine with yours once settled in. Looking forward to seeing pics of the fencing - and Pheobe of course! :hug:
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It must be daunting living with a large number of cats, your 4 should be alot less scary
Cant wait for pics of fencing :wow:
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Great news ;D
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It must be daunting living with a large number of cats, your 4 should be alot less scary
Oi, my cats are all loveable and gorgeous, they're not scary :sneaky: ;)
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Oh thats great news , I know Dawn really wanted you to have her! :hug:
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It must be daunting living with a large number of cats, your 4 should be alot less scary
Oi, my cats are all loveable and gorgeous, they're not scary :sneaky: ;)
En masse it must be a shock :scared: :scared: :rofl:
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Hey, she hasn''t seen the size of Winston yet !- let alone the other 3 :rofl: :rofl:
She may turn round and prefer Dawns cats !! ;D
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I've got a couple of big lads but both soft lumps especially Billy ;) Billy is even scared of Becky and she's like a rat on stilts :evillaugh:
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I think Winston is all talk really :rofl:
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fanstastic news bungly!!!
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Brilliant news Bungly, im sure Phoebe will be very happy with you x
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That is wonderfull news, i am sure Phoebe will be very happy in her new home. :hug:
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Hopefully Phoebe will be making her way to Lincoln the week after next, this is on condition she doesn't plan any more escapes until she is safely behind cat proofing :sneaky: Here's a pic taken of her tonight especially for Gill :Luv:
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I know I am the wrong Gill but she is gorgeous ;D
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I second that...beautiful marking/colouring! :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
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Shes gorgeous!!!!!!! :Luv2:
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she is lovely, I'm sure she'll be very happy
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Thankyou for thatDawn .
She really is gorgeous.
Looking forward to seeing her very soon, hope the tribe take to her :scared:
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how is phoebe settling in Bungly??
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Hi,
Well, she only arrived on Monday evening.
She had a bath Tuesday ! she was actually pretty good and got a bowl of ham for being a good girl.
She doesn''t like you doing anything to her -from being picked up -to cleaning her eyes and as for combing :shocked: not at all and she has a fair few knots in what bit of hair she has.
Apart from that she is fine , eating etc .
She didn't like the pen at all ,so she has the back bedroom to herself at present , she is in the pen in the garden at the moment which she doesn''t mind too much as she is outside and the others can see her.
She has been a bit hissy and swearing to them through the pen , so will just taker it easy and see how it goes.
She is beautiful -but bossy !!!! Obviously been left to her own devices too long with not enough attention and hands on .
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bless her, still its early days, she'll be one of the family before you know it!
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I'm sure she'll have you trained in no time :evillaugh: She is a little sweetheart but will need time to settle. The problem being where she came from, she spent a lot of time outdoors doing her own thing which hasn't helped matters, I think she spent a lot of her time at the Rugby Club and also the Bingo Hall and went visiting different people bless her. She does enjoy her fusses and I'm sure she'll settle :hug:
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the rugby club - she's probably withdrawing from beer!
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Yes, she loves a fuss and greets you when you go in the room.
Had a shock though -went in earlier and just opened the window slightly (its on a catch so can only be opened a few inches if necessary ) as it was hot in there .
Went back a few mins later and she had disappeared - i thought -no , impossible she cant have got through that small gap and all the way down from the bedroom onto the patio .
Couldn''t see her anywhere in the bedroom , called her - she came out backwards from down the side of the computer desk ( tiny gap about 4 inches !) -couldn''t believe it - thought she had vanished !!
Dawn, did you get message about flea stuff and vaccination certificate .?
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Just wondered how the lovely Phoebe is she settling in, has she 'tested' the catproofing yet? :rofl:
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Well ,in all honesty she hasn''t been overly bothered about going out !?
She has been in the garden in a pen most of last week and i left the bedroom door open today and all she does is sleep !- must be the weather .
She has completely taken over my nice comfy computer chair and i am back to the hard wooden one !
She is asleep at present next to me with the fan gently blowing over her - Winston came in the room earlier and she didn''t even move.
I am sure there is plenty of mischief in her though - still to come no doubt !!!
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to persians tend to go a bit quiet in the hot weather? can't really blame them I suppose, my mil had a blue one but he was a sun bather (she lives in Italy) and he used to lie on the roof terrace in 40 degrees!
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Well Smartie is a bit of a sun worshipper -upside down ,legs in the air and has been in his heated bed until a week ago !!! Will lay in front of the fire all night too when it starts getting cold -even though i dont always need it on myself - i have sat there in shorts before , so he could have the fire on !!
The others aren''t as bothered.
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Funny aren't they. Skye loves a breeze and to be cool so we have to have a window open for her - even when its freezing cold. Summer and Smartie love to lie in the Sun and hog the radiators (expecially in the kitchen where it gets megga hot). Doesn't matter about me or hubby :rofl: :rofl:
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Just a quick update Phoebe is doing okay - been taking it easy on contact with the others , but so far ,no major problems :Luv2:
She isn''t keen on having her eyes cleaned and the only grooming she doesn''t mind is her head and chest !
Dawn, please can you let me know when she last had frontline on ( don''t want to do it too soon !) and also if she ate any wet food >
The only thing apart from her biscuits she has eaten has been some ham -which she loved - would like her to eat some wet food , but an idea woold be good if you have given her any .
Mine have Whiskers supermeat and Felix pouches , but she hasn''t liked any of them .
She mainly has the back bedroom to herself and i let her out for a few hours to look round , so will see how it carries on.
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She was frontlined roughly at the end of May. As far as the wet food, she mainly ate the dry whilst she was with me, her owner said she would eat anything but that's what she seemed to prefer, I wouldn't worry about her not eating the wet food, some prefer dry and others prefer wet. Glad she's settling in okay :Luv2:
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Thanks Dawn, just need vaccinating certificate posting when you get a minute.
Wormed her yesteday without too much trouble - that was a suprise as she isn''t keen on having much done !!
She hasn''t done a lot - i think she is still settling in -she eats and sleeps and comes a bit livelier at night and has a play.
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Just a quick update -up to now there has been no major problems !
Winston and Phoebe can swear for England though and Sophie can spit forever - but Smartie bless him and Bungly have been as good as gold and just give Phoebe ( Fee,Fee ) the occasional quick look and then carry on.
She still likes her own room and goes back in when she has had enough - was going to post a pic i took -but its too big and i can''t resize it ! Done it - i think!
Dawn, please put her vaccination certificate in the post when you get a chance .
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glad things are settling down slowly - they are so conservative aren't they :evillaugh:
maybe send Dawn a stamped addressed envelope, she isn't on the board a lot at the moment so may not see your message
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Just thought i would let everyone know that Phoebe - now Madame FiFi !!- is very settled and everything is fine now.
Winston has stopped swearing at her and i think Smartie lurves her !!! :Luv2: :Luv2: I have found them sleeping on the bench together on a few occasions and last night she lay in front of the fire with him -and Smartie NEVER shares the fire spot !!!
She is getting better at letting me clean her eyes and not been overly bad at letting me groom her - she is a pretty good girl really and sooooooo beautiful ! :Luv2: :Luv2:
So, i consider i have been very lucky they are all now fairly well integrated together .
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FiFi is gorgeous and pleased things are going well ;D