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Cat Rescue & Rehoming => Rescue & Rehoming General => Topic started by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 25, 2008, 20:22:09 PM

Title: Two grey kittens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 25, 2008, 20:22:09 PM
I put this picture on CC over weekend and knowing how some of you love grey cats thought you would like to see them  ;D

http://www.catchat.org/chestnut/cgibin/prview.cgi?id=2008022101
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: LesleyW on February 25, 2008, 21:49:05 PM
They are gorgeous and I am sure they will be snapped up, greys always go first when I have them in.
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on February 26, 2008, 15:21:48 PM
AWWW how GORGEOUS are they.
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Ralph's mum (angie) on February 26, 2008, 15:31:33 PM
 :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: clarenmax on February 26, 2008, 15:46:47 PM
How gorgeous are they  :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Millys Mum on February 26, 2008, 17:10:39 PM
Aww  :Luv: they will charge more for them  :shocked: £175 each <faints>
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 26, 2008, 17:21:59 PM
I wondered where you got that from and have just found it, wow are they expensive.  :(

I only add pictures and these were the first ones.

I have just changed the link cos thet seem to have moved it or something.
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Team Svartalfheims on February 26, 2008, 17:26:43 PM
Lovely cats  :Luv: Are they really £175 each?! I am assuming at that price that they are not moggies?
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 26, 2008, 17:35:31 PM
Yes they are moggies and for pedigrees they have not given a rate, say it will be variable! The basic kitten price is £125 each and this does not include ginger or white as they cost more but not as much as blue/grey.

Who says colour doesnt matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Team Svartalfheims on February 26, 2008, 17:51:03 PM
Just found their website and they will charge £200 for a white kitten, £175 for a red one and from £175 for blue kittens. I really am shocked that the costs varies according to the colour of the kitten.
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Millys Mum on February 26, 2008, 17:53:08 PM
And if you have a cat flap you dont need a litter tray  :Crazy:

God knows how much their unpapered peds would cost  :Crazy: :Crazy:
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 26, 2008, 17:54:01 PM
Yes and notice that our good friends the black and black and white are the cheapest, presumably torties too.................not that I call £125 each cheap.

At that price I could not afford to get any cats!
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Team Svartalfheims on February 26, 2008, 17:57:44 PM
Some breeds of pedigree kitten are around £250 and given a choice of buying a moggie kitten for £200 or spending an extra £50 on a pedigree kitten that I knew the health status of its family etc I know which I'd do!

Looking at their prices for a moggy kitten their unpapered ped kittens would prob cost the same as a papered one from a breeder!
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Millys Mum on February 26, 2008, 17:59:45 PM
It means those greys will go to who ever can stump up the £350 plus for their colour not necessarily the ability to provide the best home.
I could care for them amazingly but not for that amount of money

I really am shocked that the costs varies according to the colour of the kitten.

Do the math at homing nearly a 1000 cats!
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 26, 2008, 18:02:19 PM
I have to say I am not happy about this and didnt know when I agreed to add the pictures.

I guess we are back to if you got money, you can buy what ever you want!
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Millys Mum on February 26, 2008, 18:08:41 PM
I have to say I am not happy about this and didnt know when I agreed to add the pictures.

I guess we are back to if you got money, you can buy what ever you want!

Yep you sum that up well Gill   >:( >:(
One thing in their favour is they dont pts oldies but to home a 1000 cats at much higher prices than other rescues makes me  :shify:
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Team Svartalfheims on February 26, 2008, 18:15:21 PM
"But best to put the litter tray next to the feeding area. One normally follows the other!"

Great, so people will either be angry as the cat has weed all over the floor well away from its food or the poor mite won't eat  :(
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on February 26, 2008, 18:16:54 PM
I agree - I think it's awful and very wrong to charge a different amount depending on the colour.  Apart from being very expensive, all that does is give a message to people that particular colours are rare and valuable.  Which means that someone is probably going to get the bright idea that they should breed from them, then they too can charge that amount for each kitten  >:(
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 26, 2008, 18:27:36 PM
The question is now, what do I do?

Do I continue to put up the pictures or say I wont do it any more.

Why cant things be straight forward, all I wanted to do was help! Maybe I should not be taking the moral high ground...........
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Mark on February 26, 2008, 18:38:57 PM
Sounds very odd to me - Catchat isn't a shop window and I wonder if they know people are charging like that?

We "hope" to get £50 towards costs but that is regardless of age, colour or whatever.

And oddly, they don't do homechecks - they tell people to bring proof of address and a carrier with them if they want to take the cat straight away -
how strange worrying  :Crazy: :scared:

It does make sense that without money they can't exist but a donation should be exactly that - I really can't get my head round the colour thing but I suppose it is a case of supply & demand.
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: blackcat on February 26, 2008, 18:45:27 PM
does sound very commercially motivated - and interesting that they combine their rescue work with the running of a luxury cat accommodation business. Wonder if the luxury cats get their food shoved beside their litter tray?
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Mark on February 26, 2008, 19:04:27 PM
Dodgy feeding advice as well

"It is essential to get them eating complete dried foods [only] as soon as possible - a cat needs 30% protein, not available in any tinned/sachet food. For the first two weeks, mix tin and dried food together [if the cat was not already on dried food when it leaves the sanctuary], slowly removing a half teaspoonful of tinned food every few days and increasing the dried food, until 2 months later the cat is eating only dried food. Not only is it cheaper for you, but doesn’t go off in the summer, and is far healthier for the cat!   Royal Canin & Arden Grange supply all new owners with a free Kitten or adult pack including a bag of top quality food. Obviously fresh cooked chicken and fish are an excellent supplement! "

What makes it worse is they don't even make a point of saying clean water should be available at all times

I think someone needs to have a word with them.
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on February 26, 2008, 19:10:38 PM
I think someone needs to have a word with them.

I agree.  They're maybe just a bit misguided.  The advice about food sounds like they're making a classic mistake of not calculating the protein content of wet and dry foods on dry matter basis (wet foods usually turn out to have more protein than dry - the percentage on the label only appears low because of the water content).  They are giving a lot of poor advice to new owners who may know no better.  And charging different prices for different colour kittens is crazy, imo. 

Where are you lot getting this information from anyway?  I can't see a link to it on the page that Gill linked to?
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Mark on February 26, 2008, 19:18:38 PM
just googled chestnut cat sanctuary.
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on February 26, 2008, 19:33:51 PM
I've sent them an email about their feeding advice.  It's really bad that they're recommending dry food based on such an erroneous fact.  I'm not suggesting or expecting them to completely change tack and suggest a wet only diet (even though I think that is the best) but I think it's very bad of them to suggest that people try and switch their cats over to a dry food only diet.
Title: Re: Two grey kittens
Post by: Millys Mum on February 26, 2008, 19:45:40 PM
CC pages have web site addys at the top of the page  ;)

Feeding advice, litter tray positioning, getting rid of the tray when you fit a flap, lets hope you dont take a nervous cat who wont toilet outside where its scary.

Their cattery does look nice tho.....

Gill, i dont think its taking the moral high ground, even ped rescues dont charge that much! I know what i would do and i would tell them why  :evillaugh: