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Cat Rescue & Rehoming => Rescue & Rehoming General => Topic started by: MBll on February 02, 2008, 19:44:07 PM
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I have removed the link & added the email address if anyone can help?
Is there anyone in the area that can help?
surrogate mother for 2 day old kitten desperately needed
Hi, does anyone have a pregnant queen as our cat gave birth to kittens early yesterday morning and sadly died last night leaving a kitten with no mother. We would obviously want the kitten back after the crucial period is passed.
gordon40uk@googlemail.com
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oh how sad - I do hope they find someone whose cat can help them.
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I've sent a plea out and emailed her some advice.
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Just received this back from the lady who posted. I've never heard of feeding them cow's milk and sugar :Crazy:
Hi thanks for your response, she had 4 kittens and 3 died, mum seemed
very dosy and still very fat so we took her to the PDSA. According to
the vet after examination she still had kittens inside her but she
believed them to be stuck so the vet decided to operate. 2 hours later
we got a phone call that the cat was still on the operating table and
that they had found more kittens but they were all dead, that her
kidneys had virtually packed in and that she had a serious infection.
According to the vet we could have got her back but she would have had
no milk and would have been terminally ill. We were told by the vet at
the PDSA to feed the kitten cows milk and sugar. The kitten is
thriving but we feel a surrogate mother gives her a better chance at
life.
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it's an old trick, but I would have thought only in the short term until they got proper kitten formula... I mean you can get it from the vets nowadays, but way back when the cowsmilk/sugar was often your only option...
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It's surprising what you learn but I always thought cow's milk was bad for them :tired:
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I now have a contact number which is going be quicker & easer if anyone can help
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Has she tried the local smaller rescues? Maybe they could help.
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I've also got it Mags, if anyone contacts me off my contacts, I'll let you know :hug:
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I think the sugar helps them digest it, but like i said, these days there are special formulas, so am surprised the vet did not recommend one.
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Has she tried the local smaller rescues? Maybe they could help.
Yes, she's contacted the Cats Protection and they are putting a plea out.
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Just sent oout an appeal
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fingers crossed - goats milk is supposed to be better than cows milk.
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It's a shame I'm so far away, could have been the first babe in the intensive care unit, sounds like she might need it. Hope somebody is able to help her.
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I could be wrong peeps... but I've a funny idea that this is the kitten that has just landed at my door! ???? :shocked:
Sorry I've not been on the forum in a few days guys. I've been rushed off my feet with a mother with complications during birth and still now!!! (been a really long few days with her) and my best friend has been rushed into hospital with terminal cancer SO not the best of weeks :'(
Anyhoo.. if it is this kitten that I have here which I think it is judging by the story he is safe and sound for now. :) I'll be rearing him for now and see how he gets on. The lady does genuinely care for the little one and has tried her best. Sadly the constant mixed messages she's been getting have her in a tizz! :doh:
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I emailed this person & give her some contact numbers including CATS, she has posted giving an update which is this
Many many thanks to everyone who contacted us with numbers, advice and support. We have now found help with the kitten from Sarah at www.cuparcats.co.uk/ so the kitten is now in very experienced hands and we will keep everyone updated as to the kittens wellbeing.
Sarah can you let jan know that im asking for her.
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yip... I will do RR.
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Aww great news kitty is in safe hands now. what colour is the little darling? can we see a wee pic of her please
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Yes he is safe and sound and a good wee thing really. ;D First chance at the correct kitten formula and you'd think he hadn't been fed for a month! lol bless him.
he is doing well and is asleep just now. Here is a wee pic I took last night when he came in. Apparently he is persian as both the mum and dad were. Poor wee soul is the last survivng kitten from the litter but he is a wee fighter so fingers crossed he can pull it off. I'll certainly give him all I can just hope that will suffice in the end! :)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t289/CATSRescue/misc/DSCF1960.jpg)
I'll keep you posted with pics, etc as he goes.
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Well done for taking him in Sarah and I'm sending you all the luck and positivie thoughts in the world for this little one, I know what heartbreakers they can be and what hard work they are for such little souls. :Luv2:
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thanks lesley :hug:
we'll just have to see how it goes but as I said to the lady last night I'll pull out all the stops for him as I would any cat we have here in our care. Unfortunately he wasn't able to suckle from his mother at all following birth so he hasn't received any of the colustrum or goodness from mum.
all fingers crossed here anyways. will keep you posted tho.
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Does the colostrum have to be taken as soon as the kitten is born?
I have seen these Colustrum & vitamin kits http://www.nutrecare.co.uk/latest_detail.asp?prod_id=1498&id=141&grpid=1498&msg=&offset=480
Or item 797 on here for 100grams of colustrum which I guess can be added to Cimicat or similar?
http://www.smyleepets.co.uk/SmyleeMain/vb-product.asp?CategoryID=46
They also have various dry kitten milks which I would imagine are better than Cimicat?
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Aww he is adoreable . gald someone didn't bring him to my door like they did with little astra as I def keep him too. :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:. Sarah please keep us updated on this wee one. I wish him lots of luck that he is strong enough to pull through
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Sarah he is georgeous, he's in the best hands. hope all is well with the dynamic duo, i was going to pm you :hug:
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I will keep you all updated on this tiny tots progress. He's doing grand today and seems to be more restful this afternoon and his tummy is far less bloated than it was. He's a good wee eater now bless him!
Angie - dynamic duo are doing grand (she says as it nears the 8th!!) Just been mega hectic here as I have another mum with kittens who had complications, c-section and isn't the maternal type and is making a lot of extra work for me. Not to mention she has very very little milk so having to hand feed that lot too to top up. Not sure if this little lot will make it but I'll do my best for them :)
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Sarah, sounds like you are having it tough at the moment, wish I could help but I don't think we could be farther apart. :hug: :hug: to you.
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Aww will keep fingers toes eyes and everyhting crossed for this lot, keep up the good work :hug:
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Sarah you're a saint! :hug:
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its nice to know you even thought it Lesley! and thanks to everyone else too :hug:
Hopefully this isn't a sign of what is to come this summer in terms of kittens and pregnant mums. Will be one helluva year if it is especially starting this early!
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You really do such a fantastic job - this wee one looks like a cutie and I know he is in the best hands. Good luck with the new MUm too - I really hope it works out for them all, I really don't know how you manage it!! :luck: :wish:
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Cor! :wow:
It's like a puddy's emergency room we've got up here. :evillaugh:
Well done to all concerned for plucking puss from the brink. Here's hoping the little tot grows up to be a huge and happy boy. :naughty:
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Sarah does the lassie want him back or willing to have him rehomed? Hes a wee cracker
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He's gorgeous and he's the spitting image of how Baby Sean was bless him :Luv2: :Luv2: Good luck with him Sarah, I'm sending positive vibes that he makes it :hug: :hug:
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She wants him back RR. I do think she genuinely cares for him and called last night to see how he was and sounded ever so relived to know he was still alive.
I do hope that this time round tho that she gets him neutered sooner rather than later and will of course be advising her on options etc. Perhaps not a perfect outcome but I believe he will be loved and cared for if he can make it through.
(why am I up at 3am.. mmmm... bottles and hot water bottles! ;) sadly we also lost another of the wee kittens off the mum earlier as she has lay on it and suffocated / crushed it along with another sibling. Other sibling alive for now but not looking good. Needless to say I've had enough of mum and taken the babies away for now.)
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Aww, fingers crossed for everyone.
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well the wee man is doing fine today. Still vocal and feeding well. He also has a room mate.
We lost the other kitten that mum crushed through the night so I have taken away her last remaining kitten and it gives the wee ginger boy some company too with someone to cuddle into.
will try and get a couple of pics later for you all.
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Aaaah, sorry you lost the babies Sarah, but at least these two have company and I find they thrive better when there is more than one when they are "orphans". Lots of cuddles and hugs to both of them and to you.
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Poor babies but you can only do your best hun :hug: Pleased to hear the little one is doing well and great that's he's got a little pal :Luv2: :Luv2:
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very true Lesley.... the wee one left out of the other litter really seems to be perking up now he is completely on hand feeding and has a wee pal. fingers crossed it continues!
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Here is a couple of the latest piccies of....... pip and pop
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Oh bless! What cute little names too :Luv: :Luv:
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H1 Hunnies, i'm gonna split the thread and pop the discussion over to the rescue section so you can continue the it if you want to or pm each other, whichever you wish. It's good to see you able to dissuss your diff views in Rescue as i am sure each rescue can all work in different ways to help the cats. It's interesting for us non rescues peeps to learn of these things but also respect if you prefer to keep it to pm's. :Luv:
Discussion thread moved to here in Rescue room :) http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php?topic=11923.0
Sending me love out for these little ones Sarah :Luv: Would you like the title changed to their names hun so we can follow their progress ;D
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Thanks Tan an excellent idea.
Just want to send lots of positive vibes to Pip and Pop and indeed Sarah and to say I will remember you all in my prayers.
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that would be great Tan... make it a bit easier to see what the topic is about. xx
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omg how tiny! good luck little ones
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Health and behaviour would get it more views :shy:
As a means to educate the more reads the better.
I hope pip and pop continue to do well :Luv:
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Pip and Pop are just gorgeous - they are dinky!! All the best with them x
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Aww, fingers crossed with them.
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OMG they are so tiny. :-: I can't remember the last time I saw babies that small. Best of luck for them!
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Hope they are both well today :hug:
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hi folks :hug:
Both are holding their own and feeding well. Each day they survive is a step in the right direction we always hope. The improvement in the white one (Pop) since having the company of of Pip has been great and her colouration is improving slowly and her strength gaining with the extra exercise and stimulation.
Not much else to say for now really... as they are still SOOO young but they appear to be happy little tikes.
Pic today! :)
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Sarah, they are beautiful - lots of purrs and cuddles to you all - do hope that Pip and Pop continue to do well.
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Awwww :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
Keeping everything crossed they continue to do well :hug:
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Sarah thats great hope they continue to do well, they look devine :hug: keep up the good work :hug:
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They look great and have never seen kittens so small ;D
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Ahhhhhh. I'm so thrilled that they are doing so well :Luv: :Luv: . All credit to you, too
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little update
after his feed tonight little pip decided that he would let us here him purr......
for the first time
awwwwww cute
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Only just seen this thread, they are adorable! :Luv: :Luv: Awww thats lovely they are purring now ;D How old are they now?
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they are exactly 8 days old tonight! :) how are your babies Lottie? :hug:
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:Luv: ickle purrs, well done pip, pop hope you get very vocal soon :Luv2: you know what I mean :hug:
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Well I have some bad news folks I'm afraid. We lost little Pip. :'(
Although happy and moving about OK-ish yesterday he was getting less agile overnight and eventually gave up his wee fight for life this morning after a blockage in his bowel (we believe) caused a rupture when it cleared suddenly. It could also be purely down to damage to his intestines due to the array of different (and dreadful) substances being put down his wee throat the first couple of days or to the over aggressive stimulation which left the wee fella raw at the back end and may have caused an infection to go into the gut which the anti biotics couldn't clear in time. He really didn't have the best of starts at all and its a miracle he made it to 8 days in all honesty.
We have done all that we could for the wee fella including having him seen by our vet a couple of days ago after being concerned that his bloated tummy and toilet problems may cause complications although limited as to what can be done for a kitten so young and small.
We are saddened but know we have done everything we could for little Pip would despite his short time in this world has left his mark. We now have to concentrate on pop.
One thing we are very sure of is that the death of Pip is in NO WAY related to Pop, who continues to do well for now but who also has an extremely long long way to go before we could happily say he is in a safe zone. :scared:
We are continuing to keep our fingers crossed for Pop and hope that he can continue his fight for life. :shy:
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Sarah sorry to hear about Pip Nite Nite wee man sleep well. :hug:
Fingers still crossed for Pop :hug:
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Sarah, I am so, so sorry. As I said before, these little babes can bring such big heartbreak for such little mites. I know you did everything possible for him and these babes have such a sad start to life the odds are always stacked against them. We must all take heart for the victories, for they are due to our hard work, the sad, sad losses are more often than not due to events before we ever get to them.
My thoughts are with you and Pop, continue to thrive little man. :hug: :Luv: :Luv:
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oh the poor wee man - RIP leittle fella.
So sorry to hear of his loss but know you did all you could and stepped it when it seemed their were no options available. :hug:
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Oh Sarah I am so sorry :'( :'( :hug: It's amazing how much of a mark they can make on the world around them in only 8 days isn't it. As you said you did everything you could and you made sure his time was filled with love. I have got everything crossed that little Pop goes from strength to strength and I hope he's not feeling too lonely. Has he got a little alarm clock in with him? (just thinking the tick tock is vaguely similar to a heartbeat)
Have fun at the bridge Pip, look out for my babies as I'm sure they'd love to play and cuddle up with you xxx
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I'm so sorry to hear the sad news about brave little Pip. Sad for you too after all your loving care for him. :hug:
Very best wishes for Pop.
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So sorry to hear this
:RIP: Pip
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I am so sorry to hear this, but at least he knew love and warmth, it could have been so different for him, and that is why we do it - however hard it is when we lose them, at least we have made an impact on them and given them the best chance we possibly could. RIP little one.
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So sorry . RIP Little one. :(
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So sorry to hear this :'( :hug:
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thanks Guys, I really appreciate all your kind words :)
Pop is continuing to hold his own and eating well. He is getting a little stronger and we are sure he has grown a little too. All we can do is keep going as we are and hope that it is enough to get him as far as his wee body will take him. We have all fingers, toes and paws crossed and will keep you posted on how things are going.
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Aww, I do hope he continues to thrive.
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Just a wee update folks. Pop is now 11 days old and no sign of the eyes cracking open yet so my original suspicions of him being a few days premature have been confirmed. :shy:
Sadly the wee smout has an eye infection so keeping an eye on that and treating with antibiotics. Besides that he is perky and happy and holding his own. ;D
All fingers, toes, and paws are well and truly crossed here for the wee darling who is now purring his wee heart out. ;) we'll just have to wait and see what this week holds in store for him!
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Fingers and everything else crosses here :hug:
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I've not been reading this thread for fear of reading...well, what I read really. Sarah, you did an amazing job and I'm sure Pip was aware of the love you showed him despite his tender age.
:RIP: Pip.
Is Pop the little guy who was on the free site? Hope he's continuing to thrive.
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thanks JS.
No, pip was the little one from the free site who I was amazed made it to 8 days !! bless his little heart. :'(
Pop is from another litter who's litter mates all died for various reasons (mainly mum) and was about 4 days premature we reckon at least. He is certainly holding his own and is fighting on and full of cattitude already at only 11 days old!!! lol :rofl:
We have absolutely everything crossed for Pop at the moment and are hoping we are on top of the eye infection. He is feeding well, in fact very well. so all we can do is to continue to nurse him and hope that he can make it through. He still has a very long way to go yet but we will certainly do our best for the little smout. :)
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Hope all is well with Pop today :Luv: and you of course Sarah :hug:
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Hey Angie, we're fine today thanks! :)
Pop is such a wee character already bless him. So fingers crossed as he has already left his wee mark on our hearts!
His eyes opened late last night so that was wonderful and another step in the right direction. His eye infection is settling down now which is good news.
He is sleeping soundly at the moment... in fact... rather like a brick!! out for the count and completely burst! He has such a hard life you know! :rofl:
Will post piccies later. Hubby got one late last night when his eyes just opened so it was so cute.
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So pleased Pop is continuing to do so well :Luv:
Look forward to piccies ;)
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oh Sarah thats fantastic news :hug: cant wait for the picci's :Luv:
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here we have the latest pix o pop
pop1
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Eyes only opened seconds before this one was taken
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Oh, the little darling!
Grow strong little man :Luv2: :Luv2:
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Awww Sarah, so pleased he's doing well, he looks such a little sweetheart :Luv2: :Luv2: Well done hun and keep up the good work :hug:
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So small, but incredible ;D
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Aw bless! :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
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Aww - do be careful with the camera flash and his eyes though, wouldnt want to damage them.
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we are Desley, don't worry :) They actually turned out surprisingly well considering they were taken with hubbys phone camera.
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:Luv: :Luv: :Luv: Wonderful Sarah, what a champ :Luv:
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If you look close enough in the last pic you can see how big his feet are. He has grown loads in the last week and is such a strong and very cheeky little chappie :Luv2:
Will try and get some more recent pics later on and put them up for you all.
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aww bless his cotton socks :hug: ..........maybe you should call him Thumper :rofl: :rofl:
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He's gorgeous! :Luv: Give it a few more weeks and you'll wonder how he was ever so tiny
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I know they grow SO fast!!! He is just full of catitude bless him and is going to be a right handfull if he makes it through.
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Hi Guys,
Long overdue I know... here is a wee update on Pop.
He continues to do well and is a right cheeky monkey. Full of attitude (typical for hand rears for us) and very determined. Bless him. Hubby is taking to calling him Herbie at the moment as in the car as I seem to have went through a phase of calling him my little 'love bug' Don't ask... cos I just don't know where that came from! :rofl:
Anyhoo... the important bit is a couple of pics. He's about 6 weeks now and the following first 2 pics were taken when he was about 4 weeks and the last taken about a week ago.
Hope you like... he is so cute you could just eat him! lol
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He still has HUGE feet! lol
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He is just adorable!
I'm so glad he's make it through ok!
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Wow, he looks like Chocolatepoint! :shify:
He's adorable. :naughty:
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Aw bless...gorgeous furbabes! :Luv2: :Luv2:
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He's a lilac point bless him... but very odd as he has curly coat! mmm.... either way though he is absolutely scrummy. Look just like his mum! awww bless ;)
We have noticed that his bad eye is slightly smaller than his other... but hopefully this will correct itself. If not though it certainly doesn't hinder him in any way as he is a right little torag! lol
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What a gorgeous boy he is. :Luv:
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Heavens above - I'm in love!!! :Luv2:
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Aww Sarah he is wonderful well done :hug:
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Aww, he is lovely.
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A very long time in coming... here is an update on Pop! (sorry guys!)
He has turned out to be a right handful... that we can tell you and full of life. Now 9 weeks of age he is into everything and has us on our toes to say the least! lol
Here are a few pics taken over the last couple of weeks.. not sure if they really show how chilled and comical he is... but they make us smile! ;D
Enjoy!
Herbie's (Pops) fave place... his carrier for transit in car! Chilled or what!
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Chillin Time 2
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Such a hard life it is being a cat you know! (He actually went to sleep in this position... really funny at the time)
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What a little sweetheart he has became - so glad he made it :hug:
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Awww Sarah, he is sooooooo scrummy :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2: Glad to see you back :hug: :hug:
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thanks Dawn... yes he is scrummy! typical male mind you... chilled out waiting on service! lol he has a new home all lined up but he will be with us for another few weeks until they are in a position to take him.
He is one exceptionally happy kitty... and a joy to look after. If your feeling a little down or tired he knows how to make you smile! :)
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Aww, lovely pics. Glad he has a home sorted.
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He's gorgeous - look at his blue eyes!
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Sarah, good to see both you and Pop (Herbie). He really is gorgeous; I am surprised you can let him go. :Luv2:
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well done Sarah, what a great result considering his start in life :wow:
Good to see you are back on board - brimming with health and vitality, I hope ;D
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well done Sarah, what a great result considering his start in life :wow:
Good to see you are back on board - brimming with health and vitality, I hope ;D
health & Vitality... what's that! lol ;)
We've had a wee lull to catch up on things so had a little time to myself today. Mind you just back from getting 3 kittens that were stuck in a wall space!! little darlings.. will post pics later.
Herbie is an absolute gem and will really miss him when he goes. I know it'llbe hard to see him go but thankfully he is only just moving a few miles down the road and I know the new slave will keep me posted and let me see him from time to time :D
You all know what it's like.. 1 goes out and another 5 come in! :shocked: bless!
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Well folks, that's it, Herbie has now gone off to his new home after a 'wee' glitch in taking a reaction to his first vaccine, which he has almost fully recovered from and doing much better.
He seems to be making himself at home in his new abode and we all miss him terribly here! Hopefully I will have some pics of him in his new home very soon for you all.
Still can't quite believe he made it... but he did... the little fighter. :)
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Well done Sarah for giving him such a start in life, they are all so precious, but these little ones really pull at your heartstrings. :luck: Herbie, have a wonderful life and make sure you new meowmy lets us see photos of you. :Luv2:
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Well done Sarah. :) :) Good luck in your new home, Herbie.
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Aww, I am glad he made it and is enjoying his new home.
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Aww the poor little love :Luv2:
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Well a very belated update but an update none the less! ;)
We popped out to see Herbie (Pop) again the other day and he is doing fantastically well and is one cheeky, wild little boy! hee hee but just sooooo :Luv2:
Here are a few update pics for you. Bit jumbled up some of them but the last two are from the other week. Not the best quality as taken on hubbys phone but hopefully you will enjoy them! ;D ;)
These were taken the week or two before he left us.
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This is a pic of him with my Cino boy before he left
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First week in his new home
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He looks wonderful, Well Done.
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he does, although he's actually more chocolate colour now than the lilac he looks when these pics were taken. He's a little monster though! and has his new slaves wrapped round every little paw! ;)
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ooo all excited... off to see wee herbie (pop) this avo... will try and get a few more pics to let you see how he is doing now! :)
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What breed of cat is Herbie - he is adorable - so cute.
Thanks
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Herbie is actually a Ragdoll JM :) very cute isn't he? got a couple of good pics of him at the weekend not had time to sort them out yet though.
Hes a cheeky wee monkey and was into everything and anything!!! bless him... just love him to bits! :Luv2: he's such a special wee tike!
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MKR - He is a credit to you - Beautiful - I want him - lol :Luv: