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Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: Mark on January 23, 2008, 08:21:22 AM
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The vet said her fecal samples are clear (subject to results from camphylobacter results in a few days) so wants to try her on a sensitive diet. I already had some RC s/o both wet and dry that I ordered from vetUK. Yesterday she ate some although she wasn't mad about it. When I went to give her a bedtime snack, she was very vocal and rubbing round my legs etc. I felt bad but just left her with the s/o food. This morning, it was untouched and she was going crazy for food. I cleared the dishes and gave her fresh but the same food. She won't touch it :( - I relented and gave her some RC sensible 33 (last of the bag) which she is eating. The question is, is the 33 good enough - I know it is a sensitive diet but not as extreme as the s/o. I will order eagle pack this morning and see how she gets on with it but in the meantime.......
I know some people say just leave it but I know cats can be really obstinate. My mum's cat ^sukie^ was supposed to be on a special diet but refused it. Her vet told her to give in after 5 days :scared: - but she gave in on day 3 as she knew there was no way she would touch it.
(I did give her a bit of roast chicken last night as I'm sure that is OK?)
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my vet recommended sensible 33 for tilly when she had her bengal tum - if alice will eat it it's better than nothing
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I think I will get some more to tide her over until the Eagle Pack arrives. I can't force-feed her the s/o food - the good thing is I can get the 33 in pet shops.
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I gave in - she was so pitiful :(
I was raking around the cat food cupboard seeing if there was anything I could give her. I looked at Hills senior wet, Tesco Naturals, provet etc then found Morrisons own "The Best" lamb - it is 90% lamb with minerals & vitamins added (no cereal or dairy) - hopefully that will be OK? - she is eating it anyway :Luv2:
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I got the worst cat food ever on sunday at morrisons - your cat or my cat or something it looked like it had already been digested!
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I bought some of it last year - the hedgies didn't mind it - which is just as well as the cats were disgusted :evillaugh:
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ooh they are awful but don';t we love them. If only they knew that what we give them is for their own good.
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Mark, Postal pet products have just phoned to say that they have run out of starter packs and won't be getting anymore in. If you have the same trouble, I have ordered a big bag of dry which comes with some free tins. PM me and I can always send you a couple of tins and some dry to try.
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Thanks Lesley :hug:
When did you order yours? - I ordered mine about 10am today and I haven't had a call from them. I was just about to head off to PAH to see what I can get to tide her over.
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I ordered mine about 11 am yesterday but I ordered on line - did you order by phone or on-line? Their 24 hour turnaround is a bit of a joke cos he has now told me mine will be sent tomorrow so won't get it until Friday!!
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I ordered mine today online so more than likely they haven't even looked at my order yet. I will have to see if there is anywhere else that sells it for the long term but they are listed as the UK outlet :tired: - It's a shame zooplus don't sell the duck one.
It's annoying as when you click the "order" button, it come up with something like "We are working on your order right now!" :tired:
Doubly annoying that you can get it from loads of places in America and it's less than 1/2 the price there.
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I looked on the American site and the one I really want is the Anchovy Salmon and something which they recommend for diarrhoea and IBD but can't see that on the Postal Pet Products site. Looked on the french site, but couldn't understand a word. :-[. I hate it when you find something you really want and then can't get it :censored:
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Is it one of these?
http://www.reptilica.co.uk/index.php/category/Eagle_Pack_(en_794)
No free delivery on here though
This one has Anchovy and sardine meal
http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/cats/dry_cat_food/eagle_pack/14640
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have any of you tried a thing called forza 10 (I think) I got some at the show at olympia and it was a new sensitve food
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I bought some for Willow and she wouldn't eat it - there are different ones but I bought her the sensitive.
http://petfoodwarehouse.co.uk/browse_494
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I couldn't find the anchovy and sardine one on the Zooplus site, am I being dumb? :-[
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No - I was reading the ingredients, that's how I realised :evillaugh:
I wanted to see if it had glucasamine in but it seems only the duck one does
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http://www.eaglepack.com/Pages/HS_CatFish.html
This is the one I am looking for.
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I was just about to post the same link - the one I linked to just has them as a minor ingredient. Maybe the one Dawn mentioned might be OK as that is mainly fish?
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I just googled and it is on a PDF of petpostalproducts July 2007 newsletter as a new product. Their website is a mess so maybe best to phone them and add it to your order - that's is it's not too much trouble for them :evillaugh:
They show the blue bag here but there is no order button :Crazy:
http://www.postalpetsproducts.co.uk/shop/index1.html
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Mark, i have more than 10 tins of, Hills D/D Venison diet , the RVC prescribed for Boy so i got the full tray of 24 from the vet but after two weeks he stoped and refused to eat it, so if you want i can send you some tins and you can try for Alice to see if she likes it and if she does then you can get some more?
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Hi Pav,
If you don't mind, it would be great to try a couple of tins before ordering in bulk. I am tearing my hair out (well I would if I had any :evillaugh: ) trying to think what to give her. I keep changing the RC food but she is refusing to touch it - I had to give her something tonight so tried the Tesco "luxury" food they all refused before - I know it isn't ideal but at least there are no cereals or dairy in it. She refused the chicken ones but grudgingly ate some of the fish one.
Thanks :hug:
If there is anything I can send in return? - I have stacks of Hill's k/d & Trovet renal wet that Clapton won't eat.
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Great, i will send it to you tomorrow.
I was given RC for both Jim and Boy , they didnt want to know!!
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Thanks :hug:
I struggle with RC - Kylie refused the obesity one. She is fine eating the Hill's one though - then again she has been eating Hill's for about 4 years ;D
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Am not sure if it would be of any use, but Sainsbury's have just started to do a new food in individual pouches with 14% meat content and a probiotic. It's called "perfectly meaty"...
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Thanks Baggy. I have some of their "Perfectly Fishy" pate trays which they will eat when in the mood. I think one of the things with sensitive diets is no wheat or wheat gluten which seems to be the issue. Also pure, easily digestible proteins like duck. At the moment, she is tucking into Whiskas senior Tuna as they love the new seafood whiskas senior. I will attempt her diet again in a couple of days when the other food arrives.
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Mark, someone I know who is an expert on cat nutrition doesn't rate duck for tummy issues, as it is the richest of the poultry family. And I have had issues with the RC Sensitivity in Duck flavour, not sure if it was the duck or the gravy though.
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It's so confusing - I have ordered the Eagle Pack duck & oatmeal which they say is the ultimate sensitive diet due to duck being easily assimilated protein. :Crazy:
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All the posts on the US forum on tummy issues have said to use proteins cats wouldnt normally have come into contact with - fish is one of the biggest allergens, so that would be worth looking at. You might want to look into Orijin for a dry food, Susanne would be able to give you details, I think she gets it from Zooplus, I 'think' it is grain free.
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Maybe that is why the Hill's in Venison?
Papillon is sending me some. depending on how she takes to it, I will order some. I will try to stick with one food for as long as possible otherwise I won't know what is causing it. Funnily enough, over the last couple of days, she is pooing normally and it is normal colour. She is just eating RC sensitive and Whiskas senior in Jelly at the moment rather than the mix & match Clapton likes.
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Maybe she justs needs one type of regular food :-:
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Could well be - If it happens to be the Eagle Pack, that's fine - it's a high quality food, with digestive enzymes - also as a bonus, it has glucosamine (sp)
Anyway, she is making dark brown solids ;D
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Glad she likes the Eagle Pack Mark, mine arrived today. Managed to get some of the Anchovy one so will try that on Tarka tonight, he's getting bored of his RC sensitivity now and his pooh has gone soft again anyway so helpfully this will help, together with the slipper elm tablets I got him, which smell realy nice :shocked:
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Odd that I got my sample pack even though I ordered a day later than you. Sounds like they do them every couple of days quite randomly :evillaugh:
I am praying that she will eat the Eagle Pack wet as I have yet to see her drink water :scared:
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Mary has had a bad tum lately blood in runny smelly stools been given hills rc by vets But she wont touch it i left it down over night but still thier by late morning so wound up bying tesco finest box of 12 closest thing i can get to normall chicken.
I knew as soon as i saw it she wouldnt touch it paste type food but at least the vet said i could return anything i havent used if wont touch it.
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Have you tried James Wellbeloved Mark? I do agree with MM, you seem to have tried a lot of different things, and not all cats can tolerate that, so you might find that she doesn't need the mega expensive stuff, just one thing for a couple of weeks, maybe combined with natural yoghurt/probiotics. That was all Rolo needed, he can tolerate 3 kinds of dry food now, and 2 kind of wet food. He has been here 3 months though, and I didn't dare change any food for well over a month after finding somethign that didn't affect his tummy.
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I have tried JWB and for the last time. I have lost count of how many bags I hacve either given away, thrown or fed to hedgies (even they aren't too keen :evillaugh: )
I am trying to keep her on the Eagle Pack as it contains prebiotics, probiotics, digestive enzymes and glucosamine (her legs are wobbly) although she ate some, she is on hunger strike but going crazy for food. I ended up giving her some whiskas senior as she was starving. Her little tummy is swollen and she yelped when I picked her up :'(
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I agree with you Mark, if she's starving herself, it's better for her to eat something rather than nothing. I don't agree with all this she will eat it if she's hungry, cats can die because of this attitude. I hope you manage to sort something out for her :hug:
Mark, someone I know who is an expert on cat nutrition doesn't rate duck for tummy issues, as it is the richest of the poultry family. And I have had issues with the RC Sensitivity in Duck flavour, not sure if it was the duck or the gravy though.
That's strange as the Eagle Pack is aimed at cat with dietary problems and they also give advice on the phone but like anything else, it may work for some and not for others. I would say the problem you had with the Sensitivity food would be to do with the gravy rather than the flavour, alot of cats don't tolerate food with gravy, or at least most of mine don't.
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If it were me id feed one type of normal wet and one type of normal dry, a brand she likes and see how that goes for a couple of weeks. You wont be worrying then that shes hungry and unhappy.
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She seems happy enough now and is purring for england. I am just giving her Whiskas senior wet and Eagle Pack dry. Firm poos, no gurgling and a happy kitty - a bit premature, but her tummy looks a bit smaller ;D
Thanks people ;D
As a bonus, I bought down all the bags of rejected food with a view to giving them to Willow. Clapton was fussing for food so I mixed some Burns dry into the bowl of food he already had - he ate it and wanted more ;D - I then gave him some Burns on its own and he ate that too ;D - his first quality food in 2 years ;D
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Good, who would think firm poo could be so satisfying :shify:
Good boy Clapton for eating some quality grub :1st place:
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Glad to hear she is improving hope she keeps it up -
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Hi Mark, just wondering how is Alice ? Is she eating the prescription food now? :)
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No luck with the prescription food. Alice is eating what suits Alice :tired: - some senior and mostly regular felix. She is really fussy and will sniff at senior food but clear the plate if I give her regular felix with water added. As her poos are firm (ish) and she is well in herself, I think all I can do is keep her happy. She had full bloods done and doesn't have any kidney issues etc I do worry about her and Clapton not eating the proper food but if they are happy and well, there's not much I can do. When their bloods are done again, I will have to review things but as you know, you can't make them eat something they don't like :Luv2:
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just my 1p's worth but it sounds like you are doing the right thing Mark. They get so unhappy if you try to force them to eat some nosh they don't like.