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Title: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: Gwen on December 04, 2007, 22:41:04 PM
I know we all problably worm our little ones regularily but my nan always goes on about meat (from tins but obviously pouches too) cause cats to develop worms.

Is this true?
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: Reynard on December 04, 2007, 22:47:31 PM
I wouldn't think so, Gwen.

Cats get worms either from ingesting infected fleas (why worming and defleaing should go hand in hand) or from eating prey that they catch.

I have to worm Pearl on a regular basis due to the sheer number of mice and birds that she eats.

I also have to worm Toby at the same time as he has a propensity to washing madam's derriere...  :sick:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on December 04, 2007, 22:49:18 PM
Never heard that one before! Very unlikely I would say - most tinned/pouch cat food has been processed beyond there being any  vitamins/minerals etc left in 'em anyway, never mind anything that could cause worms!

Cats can get worms from fleas, or from eating prey.
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on December 04, 2007, 22:50:10 PM
Hey Witty - SNAP!  :rofl:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: Reynard on December 04, 2007, 22:56:14 PM
Hey Witty - SNAP!  :rofl:

LOL Gillian! Great minds etc...  ;)
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: Gwen on December 04, 2007, 23:02:47 PM
Thanks guys :)

Must be an old wives tale then but I mustnt dare tell my nan as shes always right :rofl:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: blackcat on December 04, 2007, 23:14:11 PM
back in the good old days you could get some nasty worms or intestinal thingies from pork if it was not properly cooked (which is why your nan probably cooks pork till it it white and dry) but never heard of it coming from canned meat or pouches - old wives tale definitely!!
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: fluffybunny on December 05, 2007, 13:06:56 PM
Agreed - definitely not from tins, they are heated to ridiculously high temperatures to ensure that any bacterial spores are killed off.  I guess there's more potential risk from pouches where the contents are 'gently steamed' in the pouch as I have no idea what sort of temperatures they reach, but if it's enough to 'cook' the contents then it's highly unlikely there'd be any nasties left alive in there either... 
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: Ela on December 05, 2007, 13:46:12 PM
I would most definitely agre,  an old wives tale.
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: CurlyCatz on December 05, 2007, 13:50:33 PM
No i'd say impossible because it has to be taken up to certain temperatures and such like in the cooking process. (think of pasteruised milk, abit like that)

Mind you my lovely (not so) next door neighbour argued and still would till the cows came home that female dogs can only get worms by mating with an infected male dog  :-:  Mind you that is the same man who also argued until i was blue in the face that foxes only have 1 lung  :tired:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: Ela on December 05, 2007, 13:55:55 PM
Perhaps he is the man I saw in a pub once that insisted all white cats were deaf and all tabby cats were male. At the time I have about 10 female tabbies.
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: unseeliechylde on December 05, 2007, 14:38:45 PM
Anything fed to animals in the uk legally has to be fit for human consumption. Most animals that are used for meat are regularly wormed, and the cooking process will kill any eggs or larvae. Animals can get worms via fleas and prey, but they can also pick them up by eating grass, as grazing animals do, due to ther animals passing eggs in their faeces. Worm egges and larvae can survive for short periods on damp grass, and may be ingested when the cat eats grass.
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: CurlyCatz on December 05, 2007, 14:42:28 PM
ALL big brand tinned foods are tested by humans.  There are folk who have that as their full time job  :sick:  I know that to be fact coz i've met some who delighted in telling us their favorite flavours and even admitted to eating it out of work  :sick: 
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on December 05, 2007, 16:49:38 PM
There are folk who have that as their full time job  :sick:  I know that to be fact coz i've met some who delighted in telling us their favorite flavours and even admitted to eating it out of work  :sick: 

Welll.....I suppose if  you've got nothing else in!  :sick:  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on December 05, 2007, 16:54:37 PM
thats disgusting  :sick:

My vet in London who first told me about ad diet said it was like pate and he knew another vet who had tried it with crackers  :sick: :sick:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: fluffybunny on December 05, 2007, 18:31:01 PM
 :rofl: That's gross!   :sick:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on December 05, 2007, 19:04:29 PM
ALL big brand tinned foods are tested by humans. 

I had heard that but I read an article in one of the cat mags a while back in which it was stated that contrary to popular opinion that is no longer the case.  Stupid idea if you ask me - what has human taste got to do with cat food?
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: CurlyCatz on December 06, 2007, 11:59:13 AM
Well it was when i was down at the pedigree waltham centre a few years back, A few of the guys had been doing that job for 15 + years.  I am guessing they may also had more to do with the formula/ingredients or making of the food than just testing it coz i cant see anyone getting paid fulltime like they were to sit and eat dog/cat food all day long  :-:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: berties mum on December 06, 2007, 14:36:41 PM
My vet once told me that pet food has to be fit for human consumption because there are impoverished people who eat it because they can't afford anything else.  I don't believe that personally - there's loads of food cheaper than tinned cat food!  But no, I don't think cats can catch worms from their food - I've even read that there's no real need to worm indoor cats unless they've had fleas, and surely that advice would be different if food posed a risk?
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: blackcat on December 06, 2007, 15:49:10 PM
I think the days of poor people eating cat food are long past. Ever since cats became members of the family their food has increased in price accordingly. So it is cheaper to buy spam than cat food. I was once stopped by a friend at the supermarket cos he saw all I had in my trolly was bread and cat food. He knew i had been doing it hard financially, so put two and two together and made five  :rofl: 'Oh, Jo, I had no idea things were that bad' sez he  :rofl: :rofl: Took quite a bit of talking to convince him what was going on cos he knows I am a stubborn cow and would be unlikely to admit it if things were that bad, gave us a lot to laugh about for years afterwards  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: berties mum on December 06, 2007, 17:00:38 PM
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Oh, that's hilarious!!!  I buy a lot of cat food with two cats of average appetite and Minnie The Munching Monster - do you think that's why the cashiers at my local supermarket always look at me with pity?  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: blackcat on December 06, 2007, 17:02:23 PM
only if you don't wash off the jellymeat that spilled down the front of your cat-patterned windcheater :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: berties mum on December 06, 2007, 17:07:14 PM
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  Yeah, I really must stop dressing like a tramp  :rofl:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: blackcat on December 06, 2007, 17:15:36 PM
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: the mad cat lady strikes again!!
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: Gwen on December 06, 2007, 17:24:11 PM
You guys are total nuts :rofl:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: berties mum on December 06, 2007, 18:04:43 PM
You guys are total nuts :rofl:

I don't know what you're implying  :rofl:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: blackcat on December 06, 2007, 18:19:21 PM
yeah - wots wrong wiv cat food anyway!!  ;) and cat-covered clothes!!
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: berties mum on December 06, 2007, 19:22:16 PM
And cat food-covered clothes!  :rofl:
Title: Re: does tinned meat cause worms?
Post by: blackcat on December 06, 2007, 19:34:46 PM
 :rofl: :rofl: