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Title: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: lisa77 on December 04, 2007, 19:50:43 PM
Leo is so clingy to me. He follows me absolutely everywhere. If I go to the loo, he will run after me & always go to the toilet too (Litter tray in there). If I go into the kitchen to cook I always shut the door as its not the biggest of kitchens & he will always meow to get onto the worktop to see what I am doing! He will sit right at the top of his cat tree which is near the kitchen door & he whines so loud that my neighbours must think he is in pain !

Just now he has walked into the bathroom & he is just meowing..at what I don't know.. (Usually if its in the bathroom he is anouncing to anyone that will listen that he is going for a number 2 !) I think this part of it is because he is more than ready to be nutered.

The crying when I am out of his sight is worrying.. Should I be worried or are other cats like this ? I read lots before I got him that Maine Coons tend to follow their owners but he is my resident stalker !

As long as he ok of course I don't mind.. but needed to check if there was anything I should worry about !?

Thank you x

Oh also not relevant but if I sing he goes absolutely mental.. runs around jumps up his cat tree & looks at me very strange !!!!
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: hOrZa on December 04, 2007, 19:55:13 PM
Mine are not Maine Coons but they still follow me all round my flat and let the whole world know about it if I don't let them in :)

I'm lucky in that the boys don't get on the worktops when I am in the kitchen but will think that if I'm in the kitchen then it must be dinner time :rofl:

hth
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: sheryl on December 04, 2007, 19:57:34 PM
Bless, he just loves his Mummy.  Maybe he wants a little fury friend  :sneaky: :sneaky:

To be honest our little Bengal girl is like that with me, permanent little shadow but I love it
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: blackcat on December 04, 2007, 20:06:11 PM
Mine go crazy if I sing - can it be the voice?  :rofl:

Esther cries if we all go off to bed and she misses the moment, but once she knows where we are happily curls up and sleeps downstairs. Smidgen shrieks with outrage if kept out of places he wants to go, but no, I think I would be a little concerned about how he might behave when I am not there (and how the neighbours might feel) if he does it to that extent...
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: dolcetta46 on December 04, 2007, 21:56:25 PM
Mine go crazy if I sing - can it be the voice?  :rofl:

My Oliver just go in hiding at the furthest possible point of our home if I sing, and that is one of the very few occasions he keeps himself away from me. ;)
99% of the time he is my little shadow, too, and he whinges loudly if I am not looking at him or touching him. 
I think Leo is a perfectly normal big baby Lisa, don't worry be happy! ;D
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: lilycat on December 04, 2007, 22:34:33 PM
He perhaps just loves you Lisa  :Luv:

Also to take into account is...how else can he find out whether or not you're doing anything involving Tuna or Chicken  :shify:?? A kitten must make sure  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: lisa77 on December 05, 2007, 09:37:31 AM
Phew ! Glad to know there are other feline stalkers out there ! Half of me thinks its also because I have spoilt him rotten since I got him.. He is defo No1 in my household.. he will ALWAYS come before me ! 

I had to pop to Argos the other night after work as I got in & he had chewed yet another PC cable ! (I always turn sockets off) but had covered the cables with a towel - which he wised up to ! Anyway I left the flat & realised that that was the 1st time I have been anywhere of an evening during the week !  My frinds think I am crazy !  :Crazy:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on December 05, 2007, 10:22:30 AM
I would only be concerned if he shows signs of separation anxiety when you leave him.  Much as we love or kitties, it isn't always in their interests for them to bond so closely to us that they can't cope when we have to leave them.  But it sounds as though Leo just loves his meowmy  ;D  Jaffa often follows me around.

Of course, if you're worried you could always get another cat.......  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: lisa77 on December 05, 2007, 11:49:07 AM
No I read about the separation anxiety.. although its simular he is fine if im out.. whenever I walk in he clambers out from wherever he has been sleeping with a big fat yawn ! I have even come home mid day before now when I had half day & the same - asleep !

I think he is a very nosey cat & that he has to see everything I do.. !  It may be worth getting another cat but with redundancy looming its prob not a good idea to add to my outgoings..

Hopefully in new year I will get this job working from home - lush !

Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on December 05, 2007, 13:04:04 PM
I dont think there is anything to be worried about Lisa

I would however think about a play mate for him (i know you were talking about that some weeks ago). Some single cats can get very lonely, it wouldnt have to be another Pred - I would just go for a moggie kitten.

Also his hormoans will be starting to kick in now too - I would get him "done" as soon as poss


failing that - the offer of him coming to live here is still open  :evillaugh: :evillaugh: (well i gotta keep trying :rofl:)
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: Sabrina (Auferstehen) on December 05, 2007, 13:14:00 PM
Lirael the burmese follows me everywhere and meows loudly when I'm in the house but she can't get to me.

Normally she's at the top of the kitchen cabinets when she's doing this.

Went into the living room last night to get something when I opened the door to come back into the kitchen I had 5 cats waiting for me.

Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: lisa77 on December 05, 2007, 13:56:21 PM
I dont think there is anything to be worried about Lisa

I would however think about a play mate for him (i know you were talking about that some weeks ago). Some single cats can get very lonely, it wouldnt have to be another Pred - I would just go for a moggie kitten.

Also his hormoans will be starting to kick in now too - I would get him "done" as soon as poss


failing that - the offer of him coming to live here is still open  :evillaugh: :evillaugh: (well i gotta keep trying :rofl:)

I was seriously considering getting another cat (rescue prob) but at the moment I need to secure a job before I commit to another.. also im not sure I have the room in the bathroom for another litter tray ! Leo is going to need an even bigger one soon.. & the one he has is an extra large !

He is all booked in for Friday for the chop.. not looking at all forward to it.. i will prob cry leaving him more than he will !
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: Millys Mum on December 05, 2007, 17:13:16 PM
Good plan not to rush into it, another buddy would be nice for him  ;D
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: dolcetta46 on December 05, 2007, 20:43:59 PM
Oliver is also doomed for his chop Saturday, the day after Leo.  They will have a lot to commiserate together!! :doh:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: lisa77 on December 06, 2007, 14:40:28 PM
Im going to hate starving him he is going to go mental tomorr morn :(
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: berties mum on December 06, 2007, 17:05:11 PM
Bertie and Bella are both really clingy, Lisa - whichever room of the house I'm in, they're there too, and if they lose sight of me, they cry.  Luckily we have no separation anxiety problems as they've got each other (and Minnie) when I'm out, but part of my reason for adopting Bella was that Bertie hated being alone.  Good luck for tomorrow  :hug:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: Maddiesmum on December 06, 2007, 18:07:40 PM
Oh he is so cute
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: lisa77 on December 06, 2007, 18:25:00 PM
I called the vet & asked if I needed to bring food for him for after op.. they said they would take care of it but I dont want them to give him cheap food that will cause him a runny boyyom..shall i take his food do you think ?

Im absolutely dreading tomorrow now.. how long will he hate me for ?
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: blackcat on December 06, 2007, 18:28:26 PM
If he is on a special diet you should tell them. If it is prescribed they should already know about it. If you have any concerns, then take it with you and make sure they know it is there. I am sure they will understand.
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: dolcetta46 on December 06, 2007, 18:29:16 PM
Lisa, calm down.... he will be okay!!  And I don't think any food is necessary, he will be too groggy to eat anything while recovering and waking up from the anesthesia.  Fill him up with all his favourites when he is home and fully awake!!
And he won't hate you as long as you don't tell him what you really have dohe to him  ;)
Good luck tomorrow!!
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: lisa77 on December 06, 2007, 18:33:48 PM
Thanks everyone.. I fed him at about ten to 6.. late as poss as they said dont feed him after 6. He is whining as I have taken both his dry food bowl away plus his wet food bowl ! (and he has only just eaten..) Tomorrow morn will be interesting !

Thanks everyone.. im sorry I am a born worrier !   Lets hope I can prize myself away to leave him tomorr morn !!!!!
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on December 06, 2007, 18:54:47 PM
I have a birman stalker and if I slip out of back door he will rush up to the greenhouse just in case I am going to get the chair out and then he can sit on me  :rofl:

He is like a little shadow at present and lying on Misas desk next to me, if I go into the kitchen he will be right behind and shouting.....how do I have the nerve to change rooms!

I am sure Leo will be fine although I do think 6 is a bit early to take away his food,,,,vets!

He will be home before he gets time to eat but if you think they may feed him , I would take his food and tell them if they feed him, they must use this food cos his tummy gets upset otherwise.

I used to tape instructions to the carrier as well amd also put a name on the food incase they all get separated.........sigh

I am sure he wil be fine tomorrow but you may have a loud night and hope you have eaten  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: lisa77 on December 06, 2007, 19:11:18 PM
Thanks Gill. That made me laugh  :rofl:

Its like sending kids off to school with their packed lunch !

So he will have stiches I take it ? Do they actually get rid of them alltogether or is it just a snip ?

Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: sheryl on December 06, 2007, 19:26:55 PM
I'll be thinking of you and the gorgeous Leo tomorrow, I was a bundle of nerves when mine were "done" but Raffiki was absolutely fine, came home and ate a huge meal and then carried on as if nothing had happened.  I didnt realize that the vets dont give boys a "full" anasthetic (sp) for neutering and that is why they come round so much quicker that girls.

He wont have any stitches (not unless your vet is 90  :rofl:) and when Raffi came home all he had left was like 2 little peas.  We were aloud to feed up until 9pm.
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: hOrZa on December 06, 2007, 19:27:16 PM
I fed him at about ten to 6.. late as poss as they said dont feed him after 6. He is whining as I have taken both his dry food bowl away plus his wet food bowl ! (and he has only just eaten..)
I did this too :)

Tomorrow morn will be interesting !
It was in my house lol I was the bad bad man who wouldn't give them breakfast lol, but I had fish for there teas when they came back from the Vets
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: lisa77 on December 06, 2007, 19:39:46 PM
I'll be thinking of you and the gorgeous Leo tomorrow, I was a bundle of nerves when mine were "done" but Raffiki was absolutely fine, came home and ate a huge meal and then carried on as if nothing had happened.  I didnt realize that the vets dont give boys a "full" anasthetic (sp) for neutering and that is why they come round so much quicker that girls.

He wont have any stitches (not unless your vet is 90  :rofl:) and when Raffi came home all he had left was like 2 little peas.  We were aloud to feed up until 9pm.

Thank you  ;) Thats great if he doesnt have stitches..
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: lisa77 on December 06, 2007, 19:42:12 PM

It was in my house lol I was the bad bad man who wouldn't give them breakfast lol, but I had fish for there teas when they came back from the Vets

Leo will cry like mad when I am getting ready & not giving him his food !  Earlier in the thread we wer talking about separation axiety.. I laughed to myself earlier & thought 'its me who has it not Leo !!!'   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: snarf on December 06, 2007, 19:56:43 PM

 Earlier in the thread we wer talking about separation axiety.. I laughed to myself earlier & thought 'its me who has it not Leo !!!'   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

prob me guilty there too- if i wake up and theyre not there ill get up to check them, just to remind them i exist  ;D

lucifer follows me and used to do the communal peeing thing, he does it with everyone who doesnt close the door quick enough tho  :evillaugh: that said there are times he just sits in the door yawning and looking bored like ive woken him up to "help me"
i get a chorus of constant shouting from both if im in the kitchen- even if im just washing up. if i go to bed and he doesnt notice he wanders round whineing until he can see im in bed then hell wander off again. but theres been nights ive felt like im being told to go to bed because he wants me out of the way  :shify:

spare cat just shouts at me 70% of the time. ive no idea what about, i thought it was food  but shell do it straight after ive fed her  :-:
my personal theory is that they think were abit simple and feel that we cant manage without them giving us step by step instructions and reminders


re the chop i got the distinct impression that lucifer felt the starving bit was by far the worst bit. i still dont think he's noticed the missing baubaus yet!
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on December 06, 2007, 19:58:44 PM
He'll be fine, bless him, but I know that won't stop you worrying  :hug:  The worst part for him will be the lack of food!  6pm seems rather early - are they operating at the crack of dawn?!  ;D  I only had to withold food from about 9/10pm the night before so Mosi was allowed supper as normal (just a little bit earlier) and only had to miss breakfast.  He came home and bounced out of his carrier like nothing had happened. And Sheryl's right - no stitches.  It's a very quick and easy procedure.
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: hOrZa on December 06, 2007, 21:12:44 PM
And Sheryl's right - no stitches.  It's a very quick and easy procedure.

Its all glue nowadays :) Did you know superglue was developed for exactly that reason, for its use in battlefield injuries :)
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ?
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on December 06, 2007, 22:36:49 PM
And Sheryl's right - no stitches.  It's a very quick and easy procedure.

Its all glue nowadays :) Did you know superglue was developed for exactly that reason, for its use in battlefield injuries :)

I don't think they even use glue for a neuter.  There is very little bleeding and I think it just heals fine by itself without the need of glue or stitches.
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: lisa77 on December 07, 2007, 09:49:58 AM
Well.. dropped him off at 08.30... I had a call at 09.26 to say he has been done !!!!

Now I have an agonising wait till 5 before I can get him   :(

Bless him I felt awful everytime I walked into kitchen this morning.. he ran over then ran to where his food normally is.. gave me that "Mummy where my food?" look...

Fingers crossed the time goes quickly for me !
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: blackcat on December 07, 2007, 09:53:53 AM
Isn't it annoying when work gets in the way of your kitty life!!! He will be bouncing with pleasure when he sees you - well over the whole process :Luv:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on December 07, 2007, 10:04:46 AM
That was quick! Did he have his little beauty spot removed too while he was under?  Give him a gentle head kiss from me and the boys when he finally gets home  :)
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: lisa77 on December 07, 2007, 10:08:19 AM
No I decided against that for the moment. Its not causing him any trouble & the vet said it was fine.. if & when it causes a prob then I will get it taken off.. I didnt want to put him through anything else today !!!

I will give him lots of kisses  :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: dolcetta46 on December 07, 2007, 13:02:49 PM
Oh I can feel your relief Lisa!! ;D  I remember how you tormented yourself when you had to leave him alone at home for the first time, now it is that all over again!!  I am sure the clock will crawl along especially slowly this afternoon, I will be counting the minutes and seconds with you!!  What have you planned for his special home coming din din?  Loads of hugs kisses and headbutts from me and Oliver as well!! :Luv2:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: lisa77 on December 07, 2007, 13:24:49 PM
Thanks honny mwah xx

I have just been to the pet shop & got him some Natures Menu food (that I discovered he LOVES) so he can tuck into that tonight along with a few felix sticks...

cant wait !  :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on December 07, 2007, 15:41:54 PM
Dont feed him too much tonight or he could be sick !
Just give him something light and not too much of it to start with. He will be hungry so will blot it down but will then prob bring it back up  :sick:

If he keeps the first lot down give him some more later xxxx
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: sheryl on December 07, 2007, 16:15:54 PM
So glad that it all went okay,  Natures Menu?? do you not think your special boy deserves some lightly poached fish or some nicely cooked fresh chicken LOL  :rofl:

Cant you pull a sicky and leave work early ??
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: lisa77 on December 07, 2007, 16:23:38 PM
Leo eats better than I do at the mo ! Im living on pasta & making a pot of sauce last the week & theres him on Tesco Finest, Natures menu.. treats every night..  :evillaugh: I dont care !

God these 40 mins will go slllllllllllllll slow !

(I have just won £50 with an incentive with work... I won £400 last week (capital bonds) so Xmas is back on !!!)
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: sheryl on December 07, 2007, 16:39:57 PM
Well done Lisa for winning, glad to hear that Christmas is back on for you and Leo xxx  Where do you work (if you dont mind me being nosy) my sisiter works in car sales and they win capital bonds and incentive bonuses.

Only 20 minutes to go now
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: lucy on December 07, 2007, 17:14:07 PM
Hope he enjoys being spoilt all evening - glad it went well!
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on December 07, 2007, 17:48:49 PM
I tried to post earlier but it wasn't happening. 

That was pretty quick!  I sometimes think it's better for them to stay at the vets a bit longer, tbh, so that you can be sure the anaesthetic has pretty much worn off by the time they get home.  Best off at the vets than bumping into furniture at home!  I know I'd never have been able to stop Mosi from trying to jump on things, but I didn't collect him til about 4.30pm and by then he was full of beans and showing no after effects of having had an anaesthetic.
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: puddypaws on December 07, 2007, 19:15:58 PM
Glad all went well with Leo.  Hope you've recovered too Lisa.  Ollie send gentle head butts for your boy
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: lisa77 on December 07, 2007, 19:35:14 PM
arrrrrrrrrrrrrr I wrote the whole post out, minimized it while I went into the kitchen.. came back in & gone.. ! Leo suspiciously close on the sofa !

I wont go into as much detail but heres the lowdown !

Police shut one of the lanes on the dual carriage way so I had an agonising journey home !

We have now been home for a few hours, he has eaten, been to the toilet & jumped around.. full of beans.. His trouser dept looks a bit red but the lady I spoke to said they don't stich or use glue? Mind you they are only small !!

Im glad to be back home with him again !  He was purring his little head off when I gave him din dins !   :Luv2: :Luv2:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: lisa77 on December 07, 2007, 19:38:51 PM
Well done Lisa for winning, glad to hear that Christmas is back on for you and Leo xxx  Where do you work (if you dont mind me being nosy) my sisiter works in car sales and they win capital bonds and incentive bonuses.

Only 20 minutes to go now

I look after 180 Pubs ! There are incentives every day in Dec which I plan on winning as many as I can of  :evillaugh:  The prizes range from IPods, MP3's, there was a bike the other day.. its really good motivation & I wish it would of been like this from the start ! Redundancy in Jan & they have only just started giving targets ! Crazy  :Crazy:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: blackcat on December 07, 2007, 19:40:36 PM
not so crazy - a good way of keeping performing staff in post until they are ready to relinquish their services. Otherwise all they would be left with would be the staff who can't get work cos they no good. They messing iwth your head girl
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on December 07, 2007, 19:44:38 PM
So please Leo is back home and Ok  ;D
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: hannah (weeny) on December 07, 2007, 19:51:46 PM
really glad it went well today - well done for being a big brave girl lisa!!  jasper was a loon after his chop - dont think he ever noticed anything had gone!!

so.... when do we get to see piccies of the new "improved" leo??  cos its been just forever since i last saw him.....  :innocent:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: dolcetta46 on December 07, 2007, 20:15:10 PM
Brilliant Lisa!!  Now it is all over and done with, put on a santa hat and get ready for the Christmas fun now woohoo!! :xmas 8:
Isn't there any chance that your employers may change their minds about redundancy as you are obviously doing such a great job??

In any case I am so happy that everything went well!!  Hugs and headbutts from me and Oliver!! :Luv:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: lisa77 on December 08, 2007, 22:01:39 PM
Leo is running around like nothing has happend ! I don't think he feels a thing which is good.

 Whole office is being made redundant due to them relocating to Chester where its allot bigger. Makes sence ££ wise as its so much cheaper .  So all of us are laid off.

Im sure something will come up its just a bit worrying now I have a Mortgage on my own  :shocked:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: blackcat on December 08, 2007, 22:05:01 PM
oh, that's a nice considerate Christmas gift from your employers - not! Do you have anything lined up??
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: lisa77 on December 08, 2007, 22:16:00 PM
I know thats what I thought.. !

Its kinda hard at the mo as they havent actually given us a date. We have has a 'Proposed' date of 31st Jan 08 but we have nothing in writing as yet. I can't really start going for interviews untill I know or it will mess everyone around. I bet they confirm it to us 2 weeks before  :-:
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: blackcat on December 08, 2007, 22:17:18 PM
um, forget messing people around. Go for interviews now - they are walking out on you - you have to look out for yourself - they can go hang >:(
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: lucy on December 08, 2007, 22:45:02 PM
That was pretty much what I was going to say too BC - Lisa, you need to look out for yourself. Now may not be the best time to look, but put yourself first for a while as you need to protect your interests!
Title: Re: I don't know if to be concerned ? UPDATE LEO's CHOP !
Post by: Maddiesmum on December 09, 2007, 07:11:00 AM
Sorry to hear your rotten news.  However if you are being made redundant then your employers have a duty to allow you time off to attend interviews.  They haven't shown too much consideration for you so I would certainly put myself first and start applying for jobs.  Good luck