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Title: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on June 29, 2009, 10:17:15 AM: does anyone know of a grain free fruit and vegetable free kitten biscuits for portia please to go with her raw diet :)

thanks lisa

p.s im ordering her a taster pack from food 4 cats tommorow
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: sheryl on June 29, 2009, 12:05:39 PM: Hi Lisa - Orijen is grain free and you can buy it online from Zooplus - all mine are on it and thriving (2 of my Bengals have vey sensitive tums and they are fine with it)
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: sheryl on June 29, 2009, 12:06:41 PM: If she takes to the raw it is worth remembering to worm her more often :sick:
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Post by: Mark on June 29, 2009, 12:11:26 PM: Quote from: sheryl on June 29, 2009, 12:05:39 PM
Hi Lisa - Orijen is grain free and you can buy it online from Zooplus - all mine are on it and thriving (2 of my Bengals have vey sensitive tums and they are fine with it)

it does say 25% fruit & veg though so may not be suitable. Arden Grange sensitive may be OK though (from VetUK)

I just checked and it has potatoes and cranberry extract.
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Post by: Gillian Harvey on June 29, 2009, 12:18:18 PM: What about the Applaws dry? that also has potato in, plus cellulose plant fibre, cranberry extract, yucca extract, citrus extract and rosemary oil extract - mind you, mine all eat raw, and also have a little applaws dry and seem fine with it. They also have a little Hi Life biscuits too (they do contain rice, but have a reasonable meat content).
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: lisa281 on June 29, 2009, 12:23:55 PM: oh im confused :Crazy: i definetly know shes cant have grain with her poorly tum and she loves raw chicken she even eats the bones which had me thinking about feeding her raw completely , but she wouldn, t eat the raw mince :( , she is not a great lover of biscuits anyway she doesnt seem to eat much of them .

Sheryl she has to be wormed every mnth till she is 6 mnths , so how often shall i do it if she takes to the raw food ?

lisa xx
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: sheryl on June 29, 2009, 12:27:51 PM: I do my Bengals every 6 - 8 weeks Hun, you may need to warm the raw slightly for her to start with and I hope you are not squeemish at the sight of blood :sick: because some of the raw is quite bloody - when I put the bnegals on raw and Orijen it took a few weeks before there was a definite improvement with their poops, I also used Lacto B for a few weeks. (I always keep some in just incase)
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Gillian Harvey on June 29, 2009, 12:34:49 PM: Lisa, try mixing a little of the new mince in with her raw chicken and then gradually increasing amount of new mince while decreasing amount of chicken.

If she likes the raw chicken, you could maybe try the Feline Future supplement which you add to the meat to make it balanced. http://felineinstincts.ca/

But if she's eating chicken with bones, then you only need to add a bit of organ meat (liver - not to much, kidneys,) and some heart - and she'll be eating a balanced raw diet then.
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: lisa281 on June 29, 2009, 12:37:02 PM: ok :thanks: sheryl i will try her with the orijen and lacto b , the vets gave me anti b's which she has finished and some paste which is doing nothing for her , she has had all the tests and xrays etc , which said there is nothing wrong , she is not keen on kitten food but loves raw chicken so im thinking raw is the way to go :)
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: lisa281 on June 29, 2009, 12:38:15 PM: gillian i was gonna try a taster pack from food 4 cats and see what she likes from the pack , is that ok ?
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Gillian Harvey on June 29, 2009, 12:41:01 PM: Quote from: lisa281 on June 29, 2009, 12:38:15 PM
gillian i was gonna try a taster pack from food 4 cats and see what she likes from the pack , is that ok ?

Yep, thats balanced with bones and organs, but definitely start slowly given her squitting probs!
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: lisa281 on June 29, 2009, 12:45:55 PM: ok i only feed her little and often throught out the day so as to not over load her tum :)
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: lisa281 on June 29, 2009, 12:50:47 PM: sheryl where can i get lacto b from ?
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: sheryl on June 30, 2009, 15:04:20 PM: You can order it online Hun - shop around because the price can vary quite a lot. - it seems expensive but lasts ages. It comes in a tub and is a white powder, there is a little blue measuring spoon (normally buried in the powder so you have to have a dig around for it) when the Bengals were babies I just used about a quarter-half a scoop a day and once there was marked improvement I went to every other day then once a week. It just mixes in the wet food and is really easy to give - I checked with my vet before using it, they had never heard of it :doh: so I took the tub for them to have a look at and they said it would be fine.
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Janeyk on July 01, 2009, 18:44:01 PM: :( Lisa is she any better?
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: lisa281 on July 01, 2009, 18:48:41 PM: no and unfortunetly im having to rehome her ( have contacted local rescue ) as we think she needs special care which we simply cannot afford and provide anymore and soo heartbroken :(

but rosie has taken to the raw feeding like a fish to water , i am waiting on a delivery from food 4 cats but its been delayed due to the hot weather , rosie has been eating fish , and chicken bones aswell all raw :)
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Janeyk on July 01, 2009, 19:59:23 PM: The poor thing, she really needs sorting have the vets done many tests on her?
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Post by: lisa281 on July 01, 2009, 20:07:55 PM: They have said there is no internal problems , i hoping my local cp will help her and then i can have her back as i dont wanna lose her :(
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Post by: JackSpratt on July 01, 2009, 20:23:52 PM: Lisa, not to be negative but I'd think that it's unlikely they'd be able to return Portia. Whatever she has could be re-occurring and you've just stated you can no longer afford to provide ongoing veterinary care for her regarding this matter.

I'm so sorry she's still ill - do they have any idea what the problem might be? It's all well and good telling you it's "not internal" but are they indicating what they might think she has wrong?

Glad Rosie is enjoying the raw diet.
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Millys Mum on July 01, 2009, 20:24:21 PM: Did they ever test her poo?
Sorry to hear you have to rehome her, CP are very rarely able to pay peoples vet bills and return a cat, theres just not enough resources :(
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: lisa281 on July 01, 2009, 20:54:44 PM: hiya
i get free vet care as on benefits :-[ its just i have to get four buses to get there and back for five us us my partner myself and three kiddies and it isnt cheap , also her squits are getting evrywhere so i have suggested to cp maybe they can help me with portia getting to the vets also maybe borrow me a pen or something similar to stop poops evrywhere , i really really dont want to part with her she is my baby :'(
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Wibblechick on July 02, 2009, 11:32:47 AM: Do you really ALL need to be part of a vet visit?

I know you must all be very concerned about poor Portia - Id be desperate - but this may be the time for just one of you to go - especially if it involves bus travel.

Having had to take my own cat (Gizmo RIP~) back and forth by bus to our vets when he had to have his tail amputated (he was missing for 10 days - we still don't know how the accident happened) I would think it easier for just one of you to go!!

And I didn't know you could get free vet care if you were on benefits Thats good news for a lot, Id guess.

Good luck - I do hope Portia will be OK - poor mite
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: JackSpratt on July 02, 2009, 11:45:14 AM: I tend to agree with WC. Can't your partner look after the children while you take Portia to the vets? Surely it's more important that she gets seen by a professional than all the family being present.

Lisa, I'm really not trying to be harsh but Portia really needs medical attention. If she's stopped eating as well as having the runs she'll not be sustaining herself. She could get seriously ill to the point of not getting better.
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Daisymac on July 02, 2009, 12:10:30 PM: I agree totally with Jack and WC, number one priority at the moment is to get Portia to the vets urgently, why do you all need to go ?, is there nobody that can give you a lift ?, if your vet care is free why not call the vet and ask them to come out and see her as an emergency, I know my Mum has called out the vet before when she was unable to get to the surgery. My cats are suffering in this heat and they are eating and drinking but it must be horrific for Portia being ill as well. If I was closer I would come and pick you up and take you to the vets but I am just too far away
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Janeyk on July 02, 2009, 13:20:25 PM: I think this should be a warning that unfortunately these things can happen, like any pet cats can be costly and may need alot of attention, these things should be taken into consideration before adopting a pet :hug:
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: lisa281 on July 02, 2009, 14:06:10 PM: i am gonna call the emergancy vet out to her
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Wibblechick on July 02, 2009, 14:16:11 PM: I think that might well be the best course of action - All paws and fingers here crossed for little Portia - keep us posted :(
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: lisa281 on July 02, 2009, 14:18:38 PM: :thanks:i hope no one thinks that i dont care for portia as i do ,im just going through finacial difficulties at the mo and im struggling to sort her , i am trying everything in my power :'(
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Daisymac on July 02, 2009, 14:26:06 PM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 02, 2009, 14:18:38 PM
:thanks:i hope no one thinks that i dont care for portia as i do ,im just going through finacial difficulties at the mo and im struggling to sort her , i am trying everything in my power :'(

No one thinks you dont care for Portia honey, it just maybe better if you sign Portia over to Angie, Angie has access to vets/medication/the right food etc etc, from my experience Kittens that are Poorly normally make for quite poorly adult cats and you could find yourself in this situation on quite a regular basis. I know it will be heartbreaking to hand over Portia, but you know in your heart it will be the right decision. :hug:
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: lisa281 on July 02, 2009, 14:44:47 PM: have emailed angie to see if i can sign her over to her :( :( :(
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Janeyk on July 02, 2009, 14:49:09 PM: everything crossed the vet can help the poor little Portia xx
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: lisa281 on July 02, 2009, 14:52:44 PM: angie is gonna take her :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Daisymac on July 02, 2009, 14:55:50 PM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 02, 2009, 14:52:44 PM
angie is gonna take her :'( :'( :'( :'(

:hug: :hug: :hug: Lisa, it is the best thing you can do for Portia xxxx
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on July 02, 2009, 14:59:02 PM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 02, 2009, 14:52:44 PM
angie is gonna take her :'( :'( :'( :'(

u are doing the right thing :hug:
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: JackSpratt on July 02, 2009, 15:00:48 PM: Lisa, I'm sure Angie will let you know how Portia gets on. It's really difficult I know, but for the best.
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Post by: Kay and Penny on July 02, 2009, 15:09:37 PM: that's good news, Lisa :hug:

it will relieve you of the constant worry about her, which we all know can be so draining
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Post by: clarenmax on July 02, 2009, 15:14:25 PM: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Wibblechick on July 02, 2009, 15:53:29 PM: Think its all for the best :hug:
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Angiew on July 02, 2009, 17:04:07 PM: Just got back Portia is at the vets . Will update when get more info!
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: lisa281 on July 02, 2009, 17:14:49 PM: :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: JackSpratt on July 02, 2009, 17:37:06 PM: Hoping the vet can give some positive news to both of you - poor little Portia. So young and so many health problems already.
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Angiew on July 02, 2009, 18:12:13 PM: Just phoned up vet 'cos they close at 6-15.

She's had a load of fluids and some food and is being kept in overnight. They are still waiting for the records, even though we popped in before we got back and were told they were ready to be faxed.
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: LadyJane on July 02, 2009, 18:20:51 PM: :hug: for you Lisa, you really have done the right thing.

Well done Angie for helping out :Luv:

Lots of luck for Portia too :Luv2:
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Bazsmum on July 02, 2009, 18:38:35 PM: So sorry for you that it had to come to this Lisa but believe me you have done the right thing now for Portia! Well Done! :hug: :hug:

Angie....your a little life saver! :bow:

Sending positive vibes to the little one.... :Luv2:
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: JackSpratt on July 02, 2009, 18:38:49 PM: She's managed some food? That's good isn't it?
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Daisymac on July 02, 2009, 18:44:15 PM: I have just got in from work and seen the update, I am so pleased Portia is in the right place at the vets, Angie you are great :hug:

Lisa you have done the right thing, if Angie's vet wanted to keep Portia overnight it must be something that needs treating immediately :hug:
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on July 03, 2009, 08:14:35 AM: Fingers crossed the vet has some positive news.
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Post by: Wibblechick on July 03, 2009, 08:20:49 AM: Any news on how little Portia is doing today ? :scared:
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Post by: Daisymac on July 03, 2009, 08:35:10 AM: I will be checking as much as I can on here but I am at work, WC if you see news on Portia will you text me if I am not online ? thanks hon xxx
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Wibblechick on July 03, 2009, 08:42:23 AM: Sure I will - hope Lisa is Ok, too :hug:

I think all of us just want to see Portia back on her paws :)
Title: Any News on Portia ?
Post by: Daisymac on July 03, 2009, 10:24:31 AM: Just thought I would start a new thread on this as the postings about Portia are split between a number of boards at the moment.

Is there any further news ?

:hug:
Title: Re: Any News on Portia ?
Post by: Wibblechick on July 03, 2009, 10:25:50 AM: Havent heard anything - :shify:

No news is good news I guess ? :scared:
Title: Re: Any News on Portia ?
Post by: JackSpratt on July 03, 2009, 10:44:26 AM: Not to my knowledge. I'm sure Angie will let us know as soon as she can. :hug:
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: Angiew on July 03, 2009, 10:52:16 AM: Have just phoned vets and Portia is much brighter this morning. They still want to keep her in. They have not yet received history from pdsa. I have phoned pdsa who say it has been sent but will resend the information.
Title: Re: cat food
Post by: JackSpratt on July 03, 2009, 10:57:11 AM: Good news that she's brighter. :)

(Merged the threads so the two main topics were together. ;))
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 03, 2009, 11:06:08 AM: That is good news that she is brighter today, keep us updated Angie, all I could think of last night was Portia as I am sure a lot of us on here did.

Sure you are missing her too Lisa, so a :hug: for you.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Wibblechick on July 03, 2009, 11:09:26 AM: Oh, that is good news! :) :hug: :hug: :hug: For all concerned with Portia's welfare :)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Bazsmum on July 03, 2009, 11:15:53 AM: I remember when cc changed from PDSA to her new vets they took ages getting the case file sorted! :tired:

Glad to here the little doll is doing fine and I do hope they can get to the bottom of this for her! C'mon Portia! :wish:

Lisa....I know your probably feeling pretty awful right now, dont think that anyone one here will give you any jip....Just remember that you gave her up for the good of her! :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Wibblechick on July 03, 2009, 11:18:27 AM: Quote from: Bazsmum on July 03, 2009, 11:15:53 AM

Lisa....I know your probably feeling pretty awful right now, dont think that anyone one here will give you any jip....Just remember that you gave her up for the good of her! :hug:

Absolutely!! You did the best think possible for her :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 03, 2009, 11:31:52 AM: Quote from: Bazsmum on July 03, 2009, 11:15:53 AM
I remember when cc changed from PDSA to her new vets they took ages getting the case file sorted! :tired:

Glad to here the little doll is doing fine and I do hope they can get to the bottom of this for her! C'mon Portia! :wish:

Lisa....I know your probably feeling pretty awful right now, dont think that anyone one here will give you any jip....Just remember that you gave her up for the good of her! :hug:

Yes Lisa, we all know you tried so hard with Portia, we know you must be really sad to have let her go, but do come on here and let us try and cheer you up :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 12:29:50 PM: Am so glad portia is doing well :) shes so tiny but such a fighter , :thanks: for the vibes everyone :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 03, 2009, 12:39:48 PM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 12:29:50 PM
Am so glad portia is doing well :) shes so tiny but such a fighter , :thanks: for the vibes everyone :hug:

aww bless, little tiny fighter !

Hope you and Rosie are OK Lisa x
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 12:43:38 PM: rosie keeps looking around for portia :(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 03, 2009, 13:00:02 PM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 12:43:38 PM
rosie keeps looking around for portia :(

Rosie probably cant believe she has you all to herself, cats are very fickle when it comes to sharing humans :Luv2:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Janeyk on July 03, 2009, 13:08:56 PM: So glad that Portia is doing ok, I'm sure the fluids and food will give her some strength and help her feel better. Hopefully the vets will get to the bottom of what is wrong with her.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Janeyk on July 03, 2009, 13:11:02 PM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 12:43:38 PM
rosie keeps looking around for portia :(

:( I was going to ask how little Rosie was, I'm sure you'll giving her lots of cuddles, were they close?
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 03, 2009, 16:53:28 PM: Ross the vet has just phoned to say they want to keep her in over the weekend. She's a very poorly little thing and as he's on call this weekend, she will be closely monitored by him.
They are giving her regular sub-q's and feeding her water and bits of food.

he also said at the moment he is not happy to let her back into a multicat household as he has not ruled out anything contagious.

They have the details from the pdsa , so they know what has been done to date.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 16:55:55 PM: well rosie has been fine around her
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Janeyk on July 03, 2009, 16:58:19 PM: Everything crossed for her :wish:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: JackSpratt on July 03, 2009, 17:04:23 PM: Hope Portia continues to improve.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: bunglycat on July 03, 2009, 18:24:55 PM: Poor little baby -hope she carries on improving at the vets - lots of get well vibes for the beautiful little girl :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 18:27:00 PM: vibes for portia , get well baby , miss u :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Millys Mum on July 03, 2009, 18:44:59 PM: Quote from: Angie (covcats) on July 03, 2009, 16:53:28 PM
Ross the vet has just phoned to say they want to keep her in over the weekend. She's a very poorly little thing and as he's on call this weekend, she will be closely monitored by him.
They are giving her regular sub-q's and feeding her water and bits of food.

he also said at the moment he is not happy to let her back into a multicat household as he has not ruled out anything contagious.

They have the details from the pdsa , so they know what has been done to date.

Sounds like the safest option, fingers crossed she is strong enough to pull through the weekend :luck:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 18:56:46 PM: just had an email off the breeder asking why she has just got an nasty email off cp about portia :shocked: :thanks: to angie and all at cp for helping her :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Millys Mum on July 03, 2009, 19:08:34 PM: Tbh lisa i wouldnt take any notice of them, people like that are prone to exaggerating things to make themselves look better, we all know who it is in the wrong
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 19:17:19 PM: :thanks: millys mum :)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 03, 2009, 19:27:57 PM: Quote from: Angie (covcats) on July 03, 2009, 16:53:28 PM
Ross the vet has just phoned to say they want to keep her in over the weekend. She's a very poorly little thing and as he's on call this weekend, she will be closely monitored by him.
They are giving her regular sub-q's and feeding her water and bits of food.

he also said at the moment he is not happy to let her back into a multicat household as he has not ruled out anything contagious.

They have the details from the pdsa , so they know what has been done to date.

Looks like Portia got to the vets just in time, Angie, please keep us up to date if you hear anything, we are all sending positive thoughts to you and Portia. :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 19:33:03 PM: breeder is sending me emails saying i have given out her email address which i never gave it to anyone and that if i had got portia put to sleep like she told me to do there would of not been any of this upset , feel like smacking her one :censored:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Mark on July 03, 2009, 19:40:00 PM: A scum of the earth type breeder that I would happily PTS >:(

She is obviously only in it for the money and has no compassion for cats whatsoever >:(

I think she should be reported to the relevant authorities.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 03, 2009, 19:41:08 PM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 19:33:03 PM
breeder is sending me emails saying i have given out her email address which i never gave it to anyone and that if i had got portia put to sleep like she told me to do there would of not been any of this upset , feel like smacking her one :censored:

Lisa, just block her email address, she wont be able to send anymore emails, set up a rule which puts her mails straight to the deleted files.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: clarenmax on July 03, 2009, 19:47:45 PM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 19:33:03 PM
breeder is sending me emails saying i have given out her email address which i never gave it to anyone and that if i had got portia put to sleep like she told me to do there would of not been any of this upset , feel like smacking her one :censored:

Have you reported this breeder? Keep the emails, you may need them.

Absolutely outrageous :mad2:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 03, 2009, 19:50:52 PM: Quote from: Mark on July 03, 2009, 19:40:00 PM
A scum of the earth type breeder that I would happily PTS >:(

She is obviously only in it for the money and has no compassion for cats whatsoever >:(

I think she should be reported to the relevant authorities.

I'll join you in the PTS act !, all of us on here (esp Lisa & Angie) have been so worried about this cat, Angie is now paying for vet treatment and Lisa has gone through so much pain and stress with the whole situation and the Breeder says Portia should have been put to sleep ! :censored: I really had an open mind about breeders before I joined this site, that has just been totally changed !
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 19:51:39 PM: yes i have kept every email from her , im not getting in trouble for something i haven't done , thanks everyone for being so supportive about me having to give up portia if i could of kept her i would of :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Millys Mum on July 03, 2009, 19:52:56 PM: Unfortunately shes very unlikely to be registered and even if she was nothing would stop her :shy: theres no power to stop people like this unless theres cruelty to get the rspcas interest :(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 03, 2009, 20:38:02 PM: I emailed the breeder. I got her name off the pedigree form and just searched on the internet. She has a few ads around and currently has a kitten list open. It was not a nasty email. I told her Portia was at the vets and did she want to be kept informed of the outcome incase it affected her breeding stock. I also enquired if she was registered.

She replied she would like to be kept informed and that she was not registered.

I have also emailed GCCF and enquired about protocol - I have read somewhere about not allowing registered animals to mate with unregistered. If this is true then the owner of the sire may get their knuckles tapped very lightly.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 20:46:45 PM: Quote from: Angie (covcats) on July 03, 2009, 20:38:02 PM
I emailed the breeder. I got her name off the pedigree form and just searched on the internet. She has a few ads around and currently has a kitten list open. It was not a nasty email. I told her Portia was at the vets and did she want to be kept informed of the outcome incase it affected her breeding stock. I also enquired if she was registered.

She replied she would like to be kept informed and that she was not registered.

I have also emailed GCCF and enquired about protocol - I have read somewhere about not allowing registered animals to mate with unregistered. If this is true then the owner of the sire may get their knuckles tapped very lightly.

Angie i think she knows maybe should could get in trouble and is taking it out on me via email :(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 03, 2009, 20:52:46 PM: I can't see how she can get into trouble unless she was hoping to become a registered breeder and is worried this might effect it.

She's not broken any laws.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 20:56:21 PM: well just thought i would let you know im not really very happy as i have just had a email come through from the place you have taken her to, and to be honest they were rather nasty, so to be honest i dont think they have any right to say im in the wrong and dont care about my animals, no one could have done more or cared for pingle like we did.> > but the way they are going on it is making me out to be a right uncaring person, i really hope this is not going to go any further, as i dont think me or brian deserve this> > lin

email i was sent
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 03, 2009, 21:03:37 PM: lisa,

my email in full - curt but nothing else.

Hi
just thought I'd let you know that the poorly kitten you gave away has now been signed over to coventry cat group and is fighting for her life this afternoon.
if we manage to identify what is wrong with her, do you wish to know as it may affect your breeding stock.

I am sad that you were happy to hand over a poorly kitten - i assume you are not a registered breeder?

Angie
Coventry Cat Group

btw - you gave me Rosies vac. card.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 21:07:48 PM: Quote from: Angie (covcats) on July 03, 2009, 21:03:37 PM
lisa,

my email in full - curt but nothing else.

Hi
just thought I'd let you know that the poorly kitten you gave away has now been signed over to coventry cat group and is fighting for her life this afternoon.
if we manage to identify what is wrong with her, do you wish to know as it may affect your breeding stock.

I am sad that you were happy to hand over a poorly kitten - i assume you are not a registered breeder?

Angie
Coventry Cat Group

btw - you gave me Rosies vac. card.
i cannot see anything wrong with the email you sent angie , i guess maybe she is feeling guilty or something , oh dear sorry about wrong card i have portia's here can you post rosie's to me and i will post you portia's :) or if you would like to collect portia's im in all weekend :)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 03, 2009, 21:49:35 PM: Lisa, please ignore the emails you are getting, the facts of the matter are that Portia is very very sick and fighting for her life.

You did all you could to care for her in the situation you are in, but she needed vet treatment a lot lot more urgently than you may have realised or managed to provide for her.

Angie is caring for Portia, & she is doing her very, very best to make sure that this poor little mite actually gets a chance in life. Whatever emails have been exchanged are trying to prevent something like this happening again.

We all know you loved Portia and we all know she has been sick for a while. If you want me to be totally truthful I think that the breeder should have never ever have given Portia to you in the first place. She was so sick, and you probably do not have the means to get to the vets in an urgent situation. It was unfair on you,

In fact from what Angie's vet is saying, the breeder may well have put Rosie at risk by letting you have Portia who was so sick.

I appreciate that you have acted in innocence here and all you have done is provide Portia with a home and lots of love, but something like this can not happen again and that is why the emails etc have been sent.

Please just let Angie concentrate on getting Portia better and we will all then be a lot happier.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Janeyk on July 03, 2009, 21:58:24 PM: Was Portia ill when you adopted her Lisa?
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Bazsmum on July 04, 2009, 07:47:48 AM: Yes Janey she was ill! :(

More positive vibes for little Portia, hope the vet stay sorts the babe out! :wish:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: bonnielass on July 04, 2009, 08:49:32 AM: Fingers crossed and tons more positive vibes coming for Portia :Luv:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: JackSpratt on July 04, 2009, 09:46:02 AM: Any updates Angie? How's Portia today?
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 04, 2009, 10:12:40 AM: Just checked in. She is holding her own at the moment. There is no more blood in her drippings but she has a long way to go. she'll be in all weekend and is getting lots of cuddles from the staff.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 04, 2009, 10:15:26 AM: Come on Portia, we are all thinking of you. I really hope she can pull through this.

Angie heartfelt thanks to you for saving this baby :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: bonnielass on July 04, 2009, 10:33:04 AM: Do hope this little girl has the strength to pull through this, i know she is getting the very best care and all thanks to Angie whose an angel for stepping in to save the day yet again :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Mark on July 04, 2009, 10:38:25 AM: Poor baby - the breeder never should have let her go if she realised how sick Portia was. She obviouslt realised it wasn't something straightforward otherwise she wouldn't have let her go for free. I know her idea of an alternative was probably PTS but she obviously just wanted rid. >:(
I hope if she is a registered breeder, she is struck off and if she is in the process of becoming one, she is denied. >:(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: JackSpratt on July 04, 2009, 11:00:28 AM: Good that she's holding her own at least. Sending get better vibes to this little one.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 04, 2009, 11:11:45 AM: I have just had a thought about this, someone may be able to help as I am not that knowledgeable but IF Portia does have a contagious virus and even though Rosie seemed not to be affected badly, would Rosie still be a carrier for the Virus for a few months ?, I am just thinking that if Lisa got another kitten I would assume that being a baby it would particularly vulnerable to picking up the same virus as Portia.

Just a thought and as I say, I am definitely not the most knowledgable person on this.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: JackSpratt on July 04, 2009, 11:23:37 AM: That worried me too - can a cat be a carrier and not exhibit any of the symptoms the obviously ill cat does? Any rescue peeps should know I would think.

Sending more vibes to Little Portia.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Kay and Penny on July 04, 2009, 11:30:17 AM: I must admit I was worried about FIP - which would certainly mean a considerable break before bringing in another cat
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 04, 2009, 11:35:51 AM: rosie has been in the vets when we took portia and she is fine :)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 04, 2009, 11:59:12 AM: I am sorry to say this but I am starting to feel like I as a cat lover who also wants the best for my poor baby portia, is starting to be judged as a person who is incapable of taking care of a kitten. As i have explained the situation before. It was the hardest decision I have had to make signing my baby over, But iI believe that it was the best decision for Portia as I know she will now get the care that she needs and deserves. Rosie has been checked out with injections and blood tests and given the all clear!!! >:(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 04, 2009, 12:00:10 PM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 04, 2009, 11:35:51 AM
rosie has been in the vets when we took portia and she is fine :)

you don't have to show symptoms Lisa - you can carry a disease , not be affected by it and still be contagious. Besides some viruses can survive for months just in the environment. Anyway, lets hope its nothing like that, though I am glad that ross is being cautious for the sake of the other foster cats we have (apart from being too poorly to leave anyway!)

lol, we cross posted! modifying to say not all illness can be prevented by vaccines and blood tests do not show up viruses. and we are not getting at you.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Feline Costumier on July 04, 2009, 13:07:41 PM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 04, 2009, 11:59:12 AM
I am sorry to say this but I am starting to feel like I as a cat lover who also wants the best for my poor baby portia, is starting to be judged as a person who is incapable of taking care of a kitten. As i have explained the situation before. It was the hardest decision I have had to make signing my baby over, But iI believe that it was the best decision for Portia as I know she will now get the care that she needs and deserves. Rosie has been checked out with injections and blood tests and given the all clear!!! >:(

People aren't judging you, you are acting on the vets advice, who have been proven a bit wrong and so now concerns are being raised for Rosie. Not in a point the finger at you way but to make sure all bases are covered and to minimise any more pain and distress to you all.

We all understand it has been a horrible period for you and you love the cats.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Liz on July 04, 2009, 14:28:14 PM: If Portia does have FIP you must get your other baby checked for the Corona virus which mutates to FIP

We have one carrier but none of the others are affected - I tested 30 + cats after Gem and her kittens except Beijing died

Beijing is a carrier but she is well stable acording to the vets as she has no change to her routine and is a little poppet and the sloul survivor of the Doodles - her Partner in crime died from Cancer on Wednesday - baby Archie

You should also get rid of anything Portia used - bowls, beds etc as the virus can still be around

You cared deeply for this little soul and have done the right thing signing her over
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 04, 2009, 19:45:08 PM: Angie, any update on baby Portia tonight ? :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Wibblechick on July 04, 2009, 19:46:13 PM: Ive been wondering about her too .....
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 04, 2009, 19:49:41 PM: Quote from: Wibblechick on July 04, 2009, 19:46:13 PM
Ive been wondering about her too .....

Portia is all I can think about !, she is like a little purrs mascot, come on Portia we are all behind you, keep it up and get better soon baby x
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 04, 2009, 21:47:53 PM: Sorry chaps there will be no update (hopefully) until the vet opens again on monday and I check in with them.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: sheryl on July 04, 2009, 21:58:08 PM: Come on baby Portia, you are such a little fighter and we are all rooting for you xxx Love, huggles and healing vibes xxx

Angie - you are an Angel :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:

Was Portia ever tested for TF?
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Bazsmum on July 05, 2009, 09:03:25 AM: More positive vibes for Portia~~~~C'mon sweetie you can do it!!! :Luv:

Cant believe the ammount of puds you are helping out at the mo Angie, everywhere I look you are there coming to the rescue!

:W: :E: :L: :L: :D: :O: :N: :E: :A: :N: :G: :I: :E: :angel:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Wibblechick on July 05, 2009, 09:04:26 AM: Quote from: Bazsmum on July 05, 2009, 09:03:25 AM
More positive vibes for Portia~~~~C'mon sweetie you can do it!!! :Luv:

Cant believe the ammount of puds you are helping out at the mo Angie, everywhere I look you are there coming to the rescue!

:W: :E: :L: :L: :D: :O: :N: :E: :A: :N: :G: :I: :E: :angel:

Id like to 2nd all of that :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 05, 2009, 09:20:52 AM: Quote from: Bazsmum on July 05, 2009, 09:03:25 AM

Cant believe the ammount of puds you are helping out at the mo Angie, everywhere I look you are there coming to the rescue!

Shucks its nothing....... however you are forgetting its....

:W: :E: :L: :L: :D: :O: :N: :E: :C: :O: :V: :C: :A: :T: :S: :angel:

Couldn't do it without the rest of the crew :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Wibblechick on July 05, 2009, 09:41:45 AM: Quote from: Angie (covcats) on July 05, 2009, 09:20:52 AM
Quote from: Bazsmum on July 05, 2009, 09:03:25 AM

Cant believe the ammount of puds you are helping out at the mo Angie, everywhere I look you are there coming to the rescue!

Shucks its nothing....... however you are forgetting its....

:W: :E: :L: :L: :D: :O: :N: :E: :C: :O: :V: :C: :A: :T: :S: :angel:

Couldn't do it without the rest of the crew :hug:

A very valid point! ;)

Many thanks and hugs to ALL Rescuers, everywhere - what would all those furries do without you ? :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 05, 2009, 12:44:14 PM: Ross the vet just phoned with an update. (I was preparing myself for the worst!).

He said today was the first time Portia looked as though she might want to live.

He said she has been very patient through all the injections and he has had her home with him over the weekend. He will be taking her back to the surgery tomorrow for nurse cuddles (and a bum wash - I said its nice to have nurses to do your dirty work!).

Her diarrhea is getting better though she has still not been put on solid food.

He said the problem with these chronic infections is that if not treated quickly and properly there can be damage to the intestines and bowels and that these need time to heal. It is too early to be able to tell if there will be ongoing problems.

Today he is 'quietly confident' that she will get better. Still no indication of when she can leave.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Janeyk on July 05, 2009, 12:48:05 PM: :hug: that's brought a tear, it's lovely to hear that the vet has taken home to carefully watch over her I'm so pleased :) because having lots of love is also so important when poorly.

keeping everything crossed for her xx
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Kay and Penny on July 05, 2009, 13:06:21 PM: that's great Angie - and it sounds as if Ross is a wonderfully dedicated vet, who is going to do everything possible for the poor mite
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: bunglycat on July 05, 2009, 13:37:03 PM: Thats fantastic news and what a great vet - as already said -love is a big help when poorly as well.
Well done Angie -you deserve a OBEfor your help and dedication to cats - i am sure you just got Portia in time !
Come on baby Portia you can do it :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Wibblechick on July 05, 2009, 16:43:26 PM: YAY!!!

Thats brilliant!

C'mon little Portia - we are all sending healing vibes to help you :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 05, 2009, 16:59:49 PM: Oh god I am in floods of tears, WC called me with the good news and I had to log on. Come on Baby girl, keep going you can do it.

Angie, you really are a saint, it really doesnt sound like she would have made another day without emergency treatment.

Told my Mum as all my family have been getting Portia updates and she said she bets Ross the vet falls in love with Portia and keeps her :Luv2: (if he doesnt I am sure there will be a few offers of homes for the little soldier ;))
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 05, 2009, 17:03:51 PM: aww am sooo glad portia is getting better :) :thanks: angie :)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 05, 2009, 17:05:57 PM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 05, 2009, 17:03:51 PM
aww am sooo glad portia is getting better :) :thanks: angie :)

:hug: hope you can relax a little now Lisa, you must have had a terrible weekend.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 05, 2009, 17:09:00 PM: yes have been feeling really bad and have been watching this thread closely but am soo glad she is getting better :yesss: :yesss:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Bazsmum on July 05, 2009, 18:12:20 PM: Fantastic news! Bless her I knew she would pull through this! :Luv2:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 05, 2009, 18:26:19 PM: So glad to hear Portia is improving. :hug:
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Post by: Millys Mum on July 05, 2009, 18:33:12 PM: Fingers crossed things continue to improve
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: bonnielass on July 05, 2009, 19:03:22 PM: Ditto :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on July 05, 2009, 19:14:18 PM: Glad to hear there is a positive update
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: JackSpratt on July 05, 2009, 19:46:31 PM: Good girl Portia!! Keep it up. :)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: LadyJane on July 05, 2009, 21:57:58 PM: YAY Portia, keep fighting little one :Luv2:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 06, 2009, 08:20:34 AM: Cant wait for todays news, hopefully she is loads better today :Luv:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Bazsmum on July 06, 2009, 08:23:20 AM: Quote from: Daisymac on July 06, 2009, 08:20:34 AM
Cant wait for todays news, hopefully she is loads better today :Luv:

Me too! :yes:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Wibblechick on July 06, 2009, 08:26:35 AM: She couldnt be in better hands, by the sound of it!

We are all thinking of you, little Portia :Luv2:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: bonnielass on July 06, 2009, 08:29:20 AM: I couldnt agree more, Ross sounds a fantastic vet, :wow: hope little Portia is doing well this morning :Luv:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Feline Costumier on July 06, 2009, 08:32:20 AM: Ross wouldn't be young, single and good looking would he :shify: I could be tempted back from NZ :shify:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Wibblechick on July 06, 2009, 08:33:42 AM: If he is, the queue for him probably stretches pretty much to where you are ;)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Dawn F on July 06, 2009, 09:19:03 AM: omg I'm just catching up - what a rollercoaster - come on portia you can do it and well done Lisa for giving her a chance
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Leanne on July 06, 2009, 10:59:16 AM: Thats brilliant news
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 06, 2009, 11:14:35 AM: ok you Portia lovers.

Just spoke to a vet nurse (the one that did the bumbath!!) and she tells me Portia is doing well. She notices the difference between today and friday when she last saw her. she said friday you could do anything to her without protest but this morning she put up a bit of a fight when medicated.

They still want to keep her in for a few days to 'calm down' the diarrhea.

I think a :yesss: is called for!
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 06, 2009, 11:16:11 AM: Oh brilliant news, I am so pleased, I was looking out for your update.

Come on Portia, keep going, you are getting better now :Luv2:

How many offers of homes do you think you are going to have for Portia Angie ?, I would think there might be a few :Luv2:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 06, 2009, 11:18:05 AM: Quote from: Daisymac on July 06, 2009, 11:16:11 AM

How many offers of homes do you think you are going to have for Portia Angie ?, I would think there might be a few :Luv2:

The VN happened to mention she had a BSH just like her at home :shify:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 06, 2009, 11:23:12 AM: Quote from: Angie (covcats) on July 06, 2009, 11:18:05 AM
Quote from: Daisymac on July 06, 2009, 11:16:11 AM

How many offers of homes do you think you are going to have for Portia Angie ?, I would think there might be a few :Luv2:

The VN happened to mention she had a BSH just like her at home :shify:

Is Portia not a ragdoll ?

The VN will have a fight on her hands with a few on here I am sure :rofl:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Janeyk on July 06, 2009, 11:26:01 AM: That's such good news ;D

Does the vet know yet what the problem is Angie?

(thanks for the updates btw)
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Post by: LadyJane on July 06, 2009, 11:26:59 AM: Awww great news! x
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: west0405 on July 06, 2009, 11:49:10 AM: :wooooo: !!!! Can't wait till she can go home and we can have some photo's! ;) :Luv:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 06, 2009, 11:52:00 AM: i had a feeling everyone on here was after her , glad she is feeling better :) :hug: for portia
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 06, 2009, 11:58:10 AM: Pleased that Potria is improving ;D
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Post by: Wibblechick on July 06, 2009, 12:00:45 PM: We need to direct some hugs to Franta & Gill, too :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 06, 2009, 12:09:35 PM: Thank you WC :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: JackSpratt on July 06, 2009, 12:14:07 PM: Quote from: Angie (covcats) on July 06, 2009, 11:18:05 AM
Quote from: Daisymac on July 06, 2009, 11:16:11 AM

How many offers of homes do you think you are going to have for Portia Angie ?, I would think there might be a few :Luv2:

The VN happened to mention she had a BSH just like her at home :shify:

That would be excellent. :) And definitely :yesss:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 06, 2009, 12:20:14 PM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 06, 2009, 11:52:00 AM
i had a feeling everyone on here was after her , glad she is feeling better :) :hug: for portia

I think we are all cat maxed out on here Lisa, it was more of a fun comment saying we would all fight over her as we have all got so caught up with Portia's story, I for one dont think my 10 would be pleased if I produced another one for them to share their house with :Luv2:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Kay and Penny on July 06, 2009, 12:26:16 PM: if she does have long term intestinal problems Portia will not be that easy to rehome :(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: JackSpratt on July 06, 2009, 12:35:35 PM: I think Portia is lovely but if I was going for any cat needing a home on here it would be Ethel in the Cats needing Homes bit - what a sweet old face. :Luv:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 06, 2009, 12:36:33 PM: Quote from: Daisymac on July 06, 2009, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: Angie (covcats) on July 06, 2009, 11:18:05 AM

The VN happened to mention she had a BSH just like her at home :shify:

Is Portia not a ragdoll ?

The VN will have a fight on her hands with a few on here I am sure :rofl:

according to her certificate she is a bsh - I didn't really get to see much of her on thursday, just picked her up and went straight to the vets.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 06, 2009, 13:07:43 PM: Quote from: Angie (covcats) on July 06, 2009, 12:36:33 PM

according to her certificate she is a bsh - I didn't really get to see much of her on thursday, just picked her up and went straight to the vets.

Didnt think she looked much like a ragdoll, apart from being colourpointed of course :) It sounds like she's on the mend, I'd have her like a shot LOL! (did I really say that?!!! :evillaugh: )
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 06, 2009, 13:16:20 PM: I was sure Lisa said she was a Raggy, oh well must be me going mad in me old age :rofl:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: bunglycat on July 06, 2009, 13:23:44 PM: So pleased she is on the mend - maybe if the vet or vet nurse took to her it would be for the best if she is going to have ongoing problems -that way she is alays in the best hands and can be treated immedietly.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 06, 2009, 13:26:06 PM: Quote from: Daisymac on July 06, 2009, 13:16:20 PM
I was sure Lisa said she was a Raggy, oh well must be me going mad in me old age :rofl:

I thought she did too - but I remember looking at Portia's pic and thinking at first she looked more siamese (old fashioned shape) than anything LOL!
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: sheryl on July 06, 2009, 14:01:31 PM: Thank goodness for positive news on baby Portia and thank goodness for such a fantastic vet. I hate to say this but I think the PDSA vet has got a lot ot answer for in the case of little Portia

Come on baby doll keep fighting and get all better soon xxx
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 06, 2009, 14:39:33 PM: Where is Portias picture cos not on this thread
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Post by: Bazsmum on July 06, 2009, 14:42:37 PM: Its on Lisa's signature Gilly....But here's a better one of her! :Luv2:

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Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 06, 2009, 14:52:42 PM: Here is a pic of BSH sealpoint I found online

Oh sorry wrong pic before, couldnt change it fast enough, the other pic I think was BSH but couldnt confirm
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Post by: Bazsmum on July 06, 2009, 14:54:19 PM: Very alike..... :)
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Post by: lisa281 on July 06, 2009, 14:56:32 PM: portia is a bsh chocolate colour point it is stated on her papers :)
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 06, 2009, 15:16:54 PM: She is gorgeous ;D
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Post by: Zenith (Liz) on July 06, 2009, 18:43:48 PM: I'm glad she's feeling better

Well done everyone involved
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Wibblechick on July 06, 2009, 18:52:58 PM: Quote from: Gillian (Ambercat) on July 06, 2009, 13:07:43 PM

I'd have her like a shot LOL! (did I really say that?!!! :evillaugh: )

If you did - we could all keep in touch with her ...... ;D
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 06, 2009, 18:53:55 PM: And have fab pictures ;D
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Post by: Daisymac on July 07, 2009, 08:02:16 AM: Looking forward to the Portia update today x
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 07, 2009, 10:59:19 AM: the poor vet must hate me!

She is bouncing around and eating well - she's on Hills AD at the moment. She will only eat when someone is with her, a thing Ross realised over the weekend and the nurses didn't until he told them. She still has diarrhea and at this stage there is no knowing what permanent damage has been done. They have stopped the anti-Bs and currently she is on Kaolin and a probiotic to try and settle her after all the stuff she's had.
Ross wants to keep her in a stable environment over the next few days and intends to keep her there until the weekend (she is getting spoilt rotten by everyone there!) and says the important thing is to get her through this.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: JackSpratt on July 07, 2009, 11:04:18 AM: Any closer to knowing what's causing the problem? Glad Portia is getting spolit. :)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 07, 2009, 11:36:31 AM: Think they've been to busy treating the symptoms - I've got 2 cats in to be spayed on Friday so hopefully will learn more then.

I'm going to send a thankyou card when thing look more settled (would do now but don't want to jeopardize anything!). I shall create one via moonpig with a pic. of portia on the front and "thankyou for helping meowt' (one of their standard sayings) and the inside will say something with a list of sigs. A large card is £6 and then of course the biccies to go on top of it ......so if anyone would like to add their thanks you can pm me with something to put on the inside of the card. If you would like to add a message of thanks then a £1 donation via our site would be good.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 07, 2009, 12:03:17 PM: Quote from: Angie (covcats) on July 07, 2009, 11:36:31 AM
Think they've been to busy treating the symptoms - I've got 2 cats in to be spayed on Friday so hopefully will learn more then.

I'm going to send a thankyou card when thing look more settled (would do now but don't want to jeopardize anything!). I shall create one via moonpig with a pic. of portia on the front and "thankyou for helping meowt' (one of their standard sayings) and the inside will say something with a list of sigs. A large card is £6 and then of course the biccies to go on top of it ......so if anyone would like to add their thanks you can pm me with something to put on the inside of the card. If you would like to add a message of thanks then a £1 donation via our site would be good.

Oh yes please, where do I donate to ?,

I will PM you a message for the card.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 07, 2009, 12:27:49 PM: there is a charity choice link on our website which will (hopefully) point you to covcats - ignore the large amounts , one pound is a perfectly acceptable amount!
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 07, 2009, 12:42:36 PM: Quote from: Angie (covcats) on July 07, 2009, 12:27:49 PM
there is a charity choice link on our website which will (hopefully) point you to covcats - ignore the large amounts , one pound is a perfectly acceptable amount!

Done Angie, I will send you some more after payday as well :Luv2:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Wibblechick on July 07, 2009, 16:17:24 PM: All done :)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Karen-covcats on July 07, 2009, 16:24:05 PM: Quote from: Angie (covcats) on July 06, 2009, 11:18:05 AM
Quote from: Daisymac on July 06, 2009, 11:16:11 AM

How many offers of homes do you think you are going to have for Portia Angie ?, I would think there might be a few :Luv2:

The VN happened to mention she had a BSH just like her at home :shify:

I was in the vets this afternoon with my two poorly foster kittens and i asked after Portia, it was the Vn that has a bsh already and she seems very smitten by portia, so i made lots of hints about her going up for adoption when she is better :sneaky:. She was telling me how she will only eat while being stroked :Luv2:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: JackSpratt on July 07, 2009, 16:32:09 PM: Keep at it, Angie. I'd love Portia to go to a trained professional that she's bonded with while getting back to good health! :)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Wibblechick on July 07, 2009, 16:34:11 PM: Quote from: JackSpratt on July 07, 2009, 16:32:09 PM
Keep at it, Angie. I'd love Portia to go to a trained professional that she's bonded with while getting back to good health! :)

Oh, yes - that would be a ~~perfect~~ Purr-fect outcome :)

Quote from: Karen-covcats on July 07, 2009, 16:24:05 PM
She was telling me how she will only eat while being stroked :Luv2:

Oh, I wish I lived in Coventry - then she could have all the strokes she wanted, and whenever :Luv2:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: LadyJane on July 07, 2009, 17:41:59 PM: I've donated too. No idea what to say on a message that won't be said by everyone else though really.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 07, 2009, 19:10:14 PM: It will be lovely if the VN does have Portia, couldnt think of a better home. (well possibly with Gill :naughty:)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: LilyandGary on July 07, 2009, 21:06:56 PM: Well done Portia, ;Dand more than that, well done all those involved in her story.

I would just love to offer her a home, but 4 cats really is the limit for me! Any more, and the fostering stops!

Wishing her and you all the best for the next few days. Lets hope she goes from strength to strength.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 07, 2009, 21:45:15 PM: Quote from: Daisymac on July 07, 2009, 19:10:14 PM
It will be lovely if the VN does have Portia, couldnt think of a better home. (well possibly with Gill :naughty:)

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I reckon you mean Gillian, now I think about it ;D
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: bunglycat on July 08, 2009, 00:00:37 AM: I have sent a donation too -but not sure if it went through :-[ got a bit confused when a different window popped up asking for details again from Barclays about registering to stop card fraud !??- so if its not gone through i will redo it again tomorrow .

Really pleased the little babe has picked up and on the way to recovery . A good job done by all . :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Bazsmum on July 08, 2009, 09:43:37 AM: So glad that little lovely has pulled through, would be great if she already had a home with nursey! :shify: ;D

Now just to dry that little bot up! ;)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 08, 2009, 10:55:16 AM: Go on Angie, go annoy the vets, we all need our Portia daily update fix :Luv2:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Wibblechick on July 08, 2009, 11:27:15 AM: Quote from: Daisymac on July 08, 2009, 10:55:16 AM
Go on Angie, go annoy the vets, we all need our Portia daily update fix :Luv2:

'T'is true, Im afraid :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 08, 2009, 12:11:56 PM: doh! karen could have asked!
...
just waiting for vet.....

diarrhea is firming - sand like bits in it now. she's being very noisy and having lots of belly rubs.....

OK?
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Daisymac on July 08, 2009, 12:15:06 PM: Oh bless her, I wish I was closer so I could give her belly rubs :Luv2:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: JackSpratt on July 08, 2009, 12:15:41 PM: Pretty good.....could do with a photo fix, though. ;) (Hehe, pushy aren't I?! :shy:)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: lisa281 on July 08, 2009, 21:26:24 PM: aww bless her am soo glad she is getting better :Luv: :Luv:, i think she should go and live with the vet nurse or ...............gillian ambercat :naughty: :naughty:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Kay and Penny on July 08, 2009, 23:56:29 PM: copious squits and very noisy too - count me out :sick:

I shall however be delighted to hear how her new meowmy - whoever she is - is coping in due course :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Angiew on July 09, 2009, 08:28:52 AM: It is with sad news that I must report that Portia died during the night.

Ross has just phoned me up with the sad news. He had her at home during the night and was hydrating her but everything was leaking out through her bowel and they could not keep her hydration levels up.

He has asked my permission to do a biopsy of her intestine to see if it shows anything.

RIP little girl.

Can a mod bod (or lisa) please amend the title of the thread.

(I shall still take them a card in and something as they are upset but if anyone needs a refund please pm me)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Dawn F on July 09, 2009, 08:29:29 AM: omg i can't believe it poor baby portia
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: bonnielass on July 09, 2009, 08:36:50 AM: OMG Poor little Portia :( just when it seemed as if things were picking up, i cant believe this little lamb has gone she didnt deserve this :candle: RIP little girl, safe at the bridge but not forgotten :Luv:

Edit .....Just lit your candle for you :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Bazsmum on July 09, 2009, 08:40:33 AM: Oh no! :'(

RIP Darling Portia....Play hard at the Bridge little one....taken far too soon x

Everyone.....including me, :grouphug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News :(
Post by: Ann Clarke (Tabby cat) on July 09, 2009, 08:43:28 AM: Oh no that is so sad, poor little girl she tried so hard to pull through. Play hard at the bridge darling and :hug: to everyone who cared for her.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: clarenmax on July 09, 2009, 08:58:22 AM: Oh no, I'm so sad to read this :'( :'(

RIP little one.

PS I've amended the title xx
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Leanne on July 09, 2009, 09:11:26 AM: Oh no, thats very sad news to come onto this morning.

RIP little one
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Daisymac on July 09, 2009, 09:20:07 AM: Oh No, I am heartbroken, Portia you didnt deserve this, RIP little one and play hard on the bridge xxxx
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 09, 2009, 09:23:05 AM: :'( :'( :'( my poor baby :'( rip babe
am devasted :(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Feline Costumier on July 09, 2009, 09:27:14 AM: Oh my goodness, such sad news, RIP little one, play hard at the bridge :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: tab on July 09, 2009, 09:28:35 AM: Thats so sad
RIP Portia Play well at the bridge baby
love
Tab
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Janeyk on July 09, 2009, 09:38:23 AM: :'( :'( I'm so upset to read this

God Bless poor little Portia xx
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Angiew on July 09, 2009, 09:46:22 AM: Ross has just phoned and he says it looks like FIP.

He is going to try and get this confirmed. Once it is, I will inform the breeder as obviously this is contagious and the rest of her cats/kittens may well be infected.

what a sad week this is. Jill told me that Tigar (the oldie that went to the pub) and Ellie (BSH that I started a thread either here or cat chat ) died yesterday. Tigar of a heart attack and Ellie of complications after a stroke. Not a good time to be one of our cats! :(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Daisymac on July 09, 2009, 09:47:49 AM: Quote from: Angie (covcats) on July 09, 2009, 09:46:22 AM
Ross has just phoned and he says it looks like FIP.

He is going to try and get this confirmed. Once it is, I will inform the breeder as obviously this is contagious and the rest of her cats/kittens may well be infected.

what a sad week this is. Jill told me that Tigar (the oldie that went to the pub) and Ellie (BSH that I started a thread either here or cat chat ) died yesterday. Tigar of a heart attack and Ellie of complications after a stroke. Not a good time to be one of our cats! :(

Lisa if it is FIP you need to get Rosie to the vets immediately and what ever you do, do not bring another cat into your home please.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Bazsmum on July 09, 2009, 10:00:38 AM: Sorry peeps and please excuse me! It takes quite a lot to get my back up, well this IS too much and I cannot contain myself!!! >:(

I do not know of breeders but would like to know why they gave you a sick kitten lisa with instructions to pts? I really do hope that Rosie is okay, I know she did go through a sick spell and I would hate to think that the little love has been exposed to this! >:(

Now I am wondering, I have tried to answer my own question but to no avail....Why take a kitten/cat on that you know has health probs and you also knew it would be a struggle for you to give it the attention that was required?

I am so mad I could!!!

Portia baby....you never asked to come into this world, you certainly never asked to go out....for the part in between I am so sorry for you that you were let down...God Bless you little one! xxx

Sorry peeps! If a mod would like to give me a telling off then I can take it! I just had to say my piece!
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 09, 2009, 10:06:09 AM: who the **** do you think you are talking to when i took portia on i was told it was a tummy problem that could be sorted by diet i tried evrything to help her my finacial situation changed after i had her , so i put her in the best place she could be in a rescue , how dare you judge me . i loved her and hated evry minute of letting her go and every minute since .
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Angiew on July 09, 2009, 10:16:43 AM: we are all upset today so lets not get too personal.

I agree partially with you Bazmum. If you have an ill kitten you must get it to a vet immediately and not wait. if you are in a situation where you cannot do this then a kitten is not the best thing to have.

FIP (if thats what it is ) is not treatable, so it may not have made a lot of difference for poor Portia. However, any kitten you bring into your house may be exposed to the same thing via Rosie.

Poor Portia should never have been given away in the first place, and certainly not to someone who was new to kittens and who would struggle to be able to get to a vet promptly. And that is not an accusation Lisa, it is just stating a fact and you were a victim of this as fiasco as well.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia?
Post by: Bazsmum on July 09, 2009, 10:17:48 AM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 03, 2009, 19:33:03 PM
breeder is sending me emails saying i have given out her email address which i never gave it to anyone and she that if i had got portia put to sleep like told me to do there would of not been any of this upset , feel like smacking her one :censored:

Now that does not sound like a kitten who can be helped through diet! :Crazy:

I could join in the slagging match lisa....but "me" I am far too good for that...I have said my piece, it was honest and from my heart!
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Yvonne on July 09, 2009, 10:18:49 AM: So very sorry to hear this

If we could bring you back again,
For one more hour or day,
We’d express all our unspoken love;
We’d have countless things to say.

If we could bring you back again,
We’d say we treasured you,
And that your presence in our lives
Meant more than we ever knew.

If we could bring you back again,
To tell you what we should,
You’d know how much we miss you now,
And if we could, we would.

:RIP: :candle: :RIP: :candle: :RIP: :candle:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Daisymac on July 09, 2009, 10:20:20 AM: Lisa, this from one of your earlier posts :

breeder is sending me emails saying i have given out her email address which i never gave it to anyone and that if i had got portia put to sleep like she told me to do there would of not been any of this upset

What I think is trying to be said is that, if the breeder had told you to put Portia to sleep than surely it wasnt just a tummy problem that was going to go away over night. Portia needed to be treated a lot quicker and perhaps a lot better (in the case of the PDSA vet) than she was. To be 4 bus rides away from a vet when you are taking on a poorly cat is really not ideal.

People on here have been following the Portia story for so long now that emotions are bound to run high, my whole family have been following the story and in fact I called to my Mum to tell her Portia has died and she was in tears this morning so that is what it means to us all on here, I am sure you are devasted as we all are, but lets just remember Portia in all this and spend some time thinking how we can prevent this happening to another kitten out there.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Feline Costumier on July 09, 2009, 10:23:05 AM: I think first priority now is to get Rosie to a vet and checked out, possibly not the PDSA, I know they are free but they weren't too useful with portia.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on July 09, 2009, 10:34:38 AM: Wooooow calm down everyone !!

RIP Portia xxx

And I hope Rosie is ok
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 09, 2009, 10:38:35 AM: Should have known people on here would look for a scapegoat in all of this. I did everything I could do for poor portia and yet people still feel the need to blame someone. At the end of the day I aint the one giving out poorly kittens. :censored: >:( >:( :( :'(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Dawn F on July 09, 2009, 10:43:14 AM: I don't think anyone is blaming you Lisa - its down to the breeder - we have had similar cases in the past with a breeder doing just the same thing - I was due to take two of the cats from a rescue lady on here and they both had to be pts before they got to me
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Daisymac on July 09, 2009, 10:44:15 AM: The breeder was totally at fault, Lisa you tried all you could to help Portia but it wasnt enough, Angie tried all she could to help Portia but at the end of the day the poor baby is no longer with us, so as far as I see it the main loser in this situation was Portia and I would suggest that we remember that.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Janeyk on July 09, 2009, 10:47:36 AM: I think alot of lessons have been learnt here - as I said last week.

Anyone owning pets, especially for the first time makes mistakes or hindsight would have done things differently, whatever has happened Lisa will be feeling gutted about this I am sure now so maybe it it best that she concentrates on making sure her other little one is ok.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Kay and Penny on July 09, 2009, 10:48:13 AM: if Portia had FIP, she and Rosie would have had the corona virus, which in Portia mutated into FIP, and in Rosie hopefully not. But Rosie may well now be a carrier, so must not, please Lisa, be exposed to another cat for a minimum of 6 months.

I had a kitten from a very respectable breeder, at the same time as Trigger - both got the virus, but it only mutated into FIP in one of them - I was lucky

these things happen, and I did not blame myself - poor Portia could not be saved, but what matters now is Rosie's health, and the health of any future cats Lisa might have
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Dawn F on July 09, 2009, 10:52:25 AM: how old is Rosie - my understanding is that under 2s are vulnerable
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 09, 2009, 10:54:44 AM: rosie is just over three years old
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: JackSpratt on July 09, 2009, 10:58:51 AM: Lisa, I'd still get Rosie checked out - just to be on the safe side. You need to know if she's carrying anything before you consider a newbie to your family. (Sorry, not a judgement just a fact as far as I can see.)

I'm really sorry to hear about Portia. I have to admit I thought she looked a lovely little girl and I'm sorry that despite all the vets efforts and her strength she still didn't make it.

RIP Portia.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 09, 2009, 11:04:33 AM: Rosie is not showing any symptoms of FIP so we are going to wait and see what the vet says on Portia as there is no definative diagnostic test a vet can do and can only be detected with a biopsy or autopsy
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: JackSpratt on July 09, 2009, 11:12:58 AM: Do you mean you're going to wait to introduce a new cat into the household? Sorry, just trying to clarify.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Ela on July 09, 2009, 11:15:35 AM: Quote
Ross has just phoned and he says it looks like FIP.

Only just caught up with this thread, how sad, I am so sorry. We had a kitten once with similar symptoms and the problem was Megacolon, if older cats get it, it can sometimes be resolved but kittens born with it or get it there is little chance. In some net write ups on it they talk of constipation, but the kitten diagnosed wit it certainly did not suffer from that, quite the opposite.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Dawn F on July 09, 2009, 11:31:42 AM: Lisa I think they can carry without showing symptoms you do need to take vets advice on this one
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Wibblechick on July 09, 2009, 11:32:52 AM: Poor, poor little Portia - I think a lot of us took that little cat to our hearts :Luv2:

RIP Little one, and play hard at the Bridge - no more pain or fear :'(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Jasmine on July 09, 2009, 11:38:33 AM: I am so sorry to hear about Portia. :'(

Lisa, if there is a chance that the corona virus may be present in your household, it would be best not to introduce any other cats or kittens for at least for six months.

This is to prevent them from contracting the virus, and the possibility of it mutating into FIP.

Also, experts believe that stress can play a part in the virus mutating into this awful disease. Rosie has just been spayed hasn't she? This makes her vulnerable, and she really doesn't need the additional stress of another cat/kitten being introduced now - it could tip her over the edge.

Give yourself time to grieve and concentrate on looking after Rosie.
:hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 09, 2009, 11:44:30 AM: Quote from: JackSpratt on July 09, 2009, 11:12:58 AM
Do you mean you're going to wait to introduce a new cat into the household? Sorry, just trying to clarify.
we are going to at least wait for confirmation on portia but i would like to get another at some point in the future
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: JackSpratt on July 09, 2009, 11:46:54 AM: In the future is fair enough. ;) Just wanted to make sure you'd be waiting for confirmation on what was wrong with Portia before taking on another ball of fluff.

In all honesty, in the mean time if you can manage it a check for Rosie might be an idea. They can trace FIP via blood tests as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Wibblechick on July 09, 2009, 11:49:34 AM: Quote from: Jasmine on July 09, 2009, 11:38:33 AM

Rosie has just been spayed hasn't she? This makes her vulnerable, and she really doesn't need the additional stress of another cat/kitten being introduced now - it could tip her over the edge.

:hug:

According to past posts, Rosie was spayed on 24th June
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Feline Costumier on July 09, 2009, 11:49:50 AM: First off, I am not pointing the finger or having a go.

I really think you need to wait to get another kitten, for a number of reasons. The main one being the risk of passing on what poor little Portia had but also, you have said that financially you aren't in a fantastic position at the moment and getting to a vet is difficult, this would make it a little irresponsible (again, not judging you, I understand the urge to get another cat!), to take on any more animals and risk there being another emergency you are unable, not unwilling, but unable to deal with.

I would say, grieve for Portia, make sure Rosie is okay, wait six months and then probably everything will be back on track again and you can offer another little one a forever home.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 09, 2009, 11:55:56 AM: Quote from: lisa281 on July 09, 2009, 11:04:33 AM
Rosie is not showing any symptoms of FIP so we are going to wait and see what the vet says on Portia as there is no definative diagnostic test a vet can do and can only be detected with a biopsy or autopsy

This is just so sad, and such a shock, I'm so very sorry Lisa :hug:

Lisa you are right there is no definitive test for FIP itself, but your vet could test Rosie for coronavirus (which is the virus that can mutate into FIP). Rosie may be positive for corona (its quite likely as many cats are positive, although most have few/no symptoms). If she does have positive/high titres then you can test again in a few months time - to see if the titres are staying high, or have gone down. That way at least you will know if Rosie may be a carrier.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Janeyk on July 09, 2009, 11:58:38 AM: Cat's like any pets can be costly and and may need vets in an emergency, I think these these need to be considered :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Kay and Penny on July 09, 2009, 12:02:47 PM: [quote author=Gillian (Ambercat)
This is just so sad, and such a shock, I'm so very sorry Lisa :hug:

Lisa you are right there is no definitive test for FIP itself, but your vet could test Rosie for coronavirus (which is the virus that can mutate into FIP). Rosie may be positive for corona (its quite likely as many cats are positive, although most have few/no symptoms). If she does have positive/high titres then you can test again in a few months time - to see if the titres are staying high, or have gone down. That way at least you will know if Rosie may be a carrier.
[/quote]

will the PDSA be willing to undertake such a test though, Gillian?
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: JackSpratt on July 09, 2009, 12:06:25 PM: Trigger, if the PDSA vet is at a PDSA clinic then yes. Anyone who has to make do with the PetAid scheme won't be able to get blood tests done - they aren't covered by the PDSA on that scheme, and nor are previous health issues.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: bunglycat on July 09, 2009, 12:11:02 PM: This is so sad - i am gutted as like many on here i have followed this little ones story and really thought she was going to pull through.
FIP is a terrible disease - i took in one once who i was constantly at the vets with and she still died after 8 months.

I feel that Rosie should be taken to be checked and tested - and in all honesty i think it irresponsible not to do this. ( i am not having a go here , but all i ever think about is the cats interest - they cannot speak for them selves and i know how upset you are)- BUT you should not take on another cat - until your financial circumstances are a lot better , and you can get to a vet a lot quicker than you do now and also not for at least a year anyway -due to the quarantine period .
If a cat is ill -you need to be able to get to a vet asap - and i would not personally ever go to a PDSA vet myself - i need a vet i can trust and who i know.
I have financial problems -but i would starve and go without everything to make sure my animals had the best care - i actually spoke to the PDSA about Bungly as i had a large vet bill after the last visit and they told me to change vets if i wanted help for the bill - i said no -i would rather starve and go to my own vet who i trust implicity and would never change - i would foot the bill somehow - luckily i have done and its now paid .
Since then i have had 2 more visits this week -one with Bungly , one with Smartie ( Smartie was unexpected !) thats just cost me my weeks shopping money - but i have bread, milk and stuff in the freezer - i can manage - they can't without GOOD vet treatment .

:candle:

RIP Portia -sweet little angel , hope you are free from pain and suffering now.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Daisymac on July 09, 2009, 12:13:58 PM: OK probably not the best time to say this, but we have to remember that Angie has other cats that desperately need her help and she now has a rather large vets bill from Portia's treatment, so although I am probably not allowed to post links I am going to and this is the link to donate to covcats who I am sure could do with a bit of help to cover costs.

http://www.octogen.co.uk/coventrycatgroup.org.uk/donate/
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: LilyandGary on July 09, 2009, 13:26:47 PM: So sorry to hear about Portia, Lisa and all at Covcats. You all did all you could for this little lady.

I had a kitten Hamish years ago who developed similar symptoms a few weeks after his injections, and was later diagnosed with dry FIP. He sadly was pts aged 6 months just a few days after diagnosis.

I had fostered him and his brother from 5 weeks of age, and they had cat flu when I got them. They had been found dumped out with rubbish, very sick. I kept little Hamish, and his brother Mac was adopted by another person. Mac did not show any illness, but obviously was a carrier of the virus.

The advice from my vet at the time was to stop fostering immediately, and not to have any new cats into my household for at least 3 months.

After 3 months, I had my existing cat Angus (18 months old) blood tested. Luckily for me the results came back as a zero titre level for FIP. He died of old age a few years ago.

I left it another 3 months before fostering again, and luckily never had a problem since. I am always very careful when I introduce a new foster, especially when I dont know the history.

Please be very careful before introducing another kitten, Lisa. You and Rosie have been through so much, and I would hate for anyone to have to go through what I went through all those years ago. It almost broke my heart.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Tan on July 09, 2009, 13:27:30 PM: :candle: :'( Rest easy little one, be happy on the bridge.

Angie, i have paid via your web donation link £50 from Purrs Buster fund.

Do you have a way to except paypal donations?

:hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Angiew on July 09, 2009, 13:35:22 PM: Thankyou to tan and all for donations - we are very grateful for them!
As far as paypal goes I will have to ask our treasurer if we have an account - we may have set one up in the past. I have a private one and if people do wish to donate via that I can pm the details - it won't be as 'cosher' a route to take but if we have details of name and address a receipt will be sent out.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: nicter on July 09, 2009, 14:10:42 PM: Sleep well Portia. Life wasnt kind to you. Be happy at the bridge xx
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Post by: sheryl on July 09, 2009, 14:38:21 PM: Nite Nite sweet little Portia - too good for this world and the Angles wanted you for themselves - RIP little one and play hard at the Rainbow Bridge xxx

I cant stop crying for the llittle one taken too young xxx :'(

I am so so sad that dear Portia didnt make it. FIP is a wicked disease and I think the three most dreaded letters that cat lovers never want to hear. I know you did the best you could Lisa but please take the advice given here, do not get another cat or kitten, even if it wasnt FIP I think you need to be more financially settled in fairness to any cat or kitten. One of my cats Charlie had a serious accident a couple of years ago and if I hadnt been able to drive him straight to the vets he would have most certainly died and I would never have forgiven myself. The cost of the treatment and operations were luckily not a concern but if I had to use public transport as you do my Charlie would no longer be with us.

I dont thnk anyone is trying to find a scapegoat Lisa but we all have to face our responsibilities when taking on pets and as Bungly has said, I am sure that many of us have gone without in the past to make sure our fur babies have everything they need.

I hope that Rosie is okay xxx
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 09, 2009, 14:51:19 PM: This is such a sad thread and my heart goes out to all those who knew Portia :hug:

RIP Portia, play hard on the bridge little one.

Just for my two pennies worth I would echo what the others have said about waiting at least 6 months before bringing another cat into the house and getting Rosie checked out. However I would like to add one thing, I dont know if its possible before doing anything but can you afford maybe £6-7 a month for Rosie? If so take out insurance with AXA today, because they will not accept claims for the first 14 days to make sure the cat is healthy!

If you do this it will enable you to get Rosie to a decent vets in 3 weeks to get her checked. If you tell the vets you have insurance then its likely if they are good they will let the claim go through without charging you anything but the excess which is £50. You fill in the form with the money to go straight to the vet and then pay the £50 to the vet.

I think this would be the best way to make sure that Rosie has the best care for the rest of her life and as far as AXA are concerned you can only take oout insurance online and they dont ask if your cat has been in contact with another sick cat, only whether she is sick and right now that answer would be NO :shify:

If you then get Rosie checked out in 3 to 4 weeks depending on the results that Angie has for Portia, you can say that when you took out insurance you didnt know that Portia had FIP, if that turns out to be the case and you can tell the vet that you have just heard about Portias illness so wanted to get Rosie checked out on advice of the rescue cos you never heard of this illness before and how serious it is.

Please do this cos it will save you so much hassle and it will safe guard Rosie :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Kirst on July 09, 2009, 15:13:57 PM: Oh how very sad. My heart goes out to Angie and to Lisa - and with hindsight we can all say that taking on a poorly kitten when you have limited finances may have been an error of judgement , but Lisa cared enough to give Portia a chance , took her to the vets (PDSA vet is still a vet who has still got the same qualifications - I know some private vets who are blimmin rubbish!) and cared enough to give Portia up when she couldn't help her any more.

I'm sure she is devastated and the last thing she needs now is people pointing the finger. There are many people (incluing the breeder by the sounds of it) who wouldn't even have tried to give Portia a chance. :'(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 09, 2009, 15:33:56 PM: Thankyou kirst :) :)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on July 09, 2009, 16:39:23 PM: Quote from: Kirst on July 09, 2009, 15:13:57 PM
Oh how very sad. My heart goes out to Angie and to Lisa - and with hindsight we can all say that taking on a poorly kitten when you have limited finances may have been an error of judgement , but Lisa cared enough to give Portia a chance , took her to the vets (PDSA vet is still a vet who has still got the same qualifications - I know some private vets who are blimmin rubbish!) and cared enough to give Portia up when she couldn't help her any more.

I'm sure she is devastated and the last thing she needs now is people pointing the finger. There are many people (incluing the breeder by the sounds of it) who wouldn't even have tried to give Portia a chance. :'(

Well said Kirst !

And lets just remember that saying..... people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones !!!
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Millys Mum on July 09, 2009, 19:16:50 PM: RIP little portia :(

I actually dont think theres any point putting rosie through tests straight away, shes very likely to have a high titre as she lived with portia, the sensible thing is to wait some months and then test or just keep her as a single cat. If she were to continue to have a high titre then it doesnt make it any safer waiting 3 months, 6 months or 20 months, keep her as a single cat as she would pose a risk to another especially a young one. One loss to fip is enough for anyone to cope with :(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Kay and Penny on July 09, 2009, 19:20:46 PM: it's not just any risk to a new cat though - when Boycie died of FIP the veterinary hospital at Bristol told me that if Trigger was carrying the Corona virus, I must avoid putting him through any stress, as that could cause it to mutate into FIP - but if he was still fine after 6 months then his chances of staying so would be much better
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Millys Mum on July 09, 2009, 19:33:55 PM: It can lay 'dormant' for years before rearing its ugly head :(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Zenith (Liz) on July 09, 2009, 19:36:21 PM: :( RIP Portia
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Daisymac on July 09, 2009, 20:58:22 PM: I know this has been a really tough time for a lot of people on here and especially tough on Lisa, but I cant help noticing Lisa that you are advertising for another kitten, please please I am begging you, consider what people are saying on here before bringing another ktten into your home, I know the temptation so well ( i have given into that temptation 10 times and they cost me over £200 a month with food, insurance, litter etc etc) but please Lisa dont do it. We know how much you loved Portia but you need to make sure all is OK before you do anything now.

lisa xxxxxx WANTED: wanted please 2 kittens
Posted on Sun Local -
Price: Free
Category: Cats
Location: Coventry, W Mids
Details: Baby
Features & Description
1 kitten wanted for loving forever home ,no transport so will need to be dropped off to coventry

Found on Gumtree
wanted please kitten
Date posted: Friday 3rd July | Ad viewed: 42 times
Location: coventry
wanted
wanted please kitten free to forever loving home , possibly someone who can bring to coventry as no transport please

thankyou

Found on Pet Free Ads

wanted please kitten
Call me on xxxxxxxxxx anytime
Cost: Free Location: Coventry
wanted please kitten to join forever loving home for free please and someone who could possibly deliver to coventry as no transport :)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Wibblechick on July 09, 2009, 21:00:10 PM: Daisymac is right .... Im afraid I spotted the ads, too ....
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 09, 2009, 21:06:20 PM: What right do you have to put my FULL name and location on a public forum (daisymac). I am actually in the process of removing these ads until we get the results from Portias biopsy!!!! PEOPLE CAN BE SO NASTY!!!!! :censored:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Daisymac on July 09, 2009, 21:08:20 PM: Lisa, everything I have posted is in the public forum on the internet, I am sorry you feel so strongly to respond to me like that. All I am saying Lisa is please do not get another kitten just yet

I have now modified the post to exclude your surname
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 09, 2009, 21:17:16 PM: As if i havent had enough to deal with today with portia passing!!! :'( I just havent got around to getting rid of them!!! Do you really think I am so stupid as to put another furball at risk until I get an answer?????? >:(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Wibblechick on July 09, 2009, 21:19:47 PM: OK ladies - time out!! And :shy: erm Lisa :-[ all that info is on cat-chat - even your email address ..... Most of us leave electronic footsteps all over stuff .....
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Daisymac on July 09, 2009, 21:25:35 PM: Lisa, I apologise, I do think emotions are rather high on here because of Portia, we all followed her story so closely, I am such a cat lover I would hate for it to happen again and I really don't think you could cope with it happening again, I know I couldnt if I was in your situation. I am so glad that you are waiting for the results before getting another furbaby. So lets let this rest and change this thread to a happier place to celebrate the life of Portia. You may also want to look at the board 'Rainbow Bridge' on here where you can leave a tribute to Portia x
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Feline Costumier on July 09, 2009, 21:27:52 PM: Please Lisa, when the time does come for you to offer another cat a home, don't do it through any of the free classifieds. You are running the risk of something very similar happening again. You won't know the history of the parents, whether there are any pre-existing conditions etc. At least from a rescue they will have been given as full a health check and pass as any cat can have. Again though, I would wait until you are financially in a better position and give Rosie a bit of time to settle and be tested if needs be after Portia's results come back.

Number one concern to everyone on here is the cats and sadly, as much as we try to be sympathetic, our emotions overtake us and we lose a little concern for the human involved in the story.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Kirst on July 09, 2009, 21:32:20 PM: LIsa , when the time is right for you to welcome another cat into your home , please use the rehoming section on here brather than the free-ads , threre are so many on here needing homes. :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: bonnielass on July 09, 2009, 21:41:42 PM: Ive kept out of this (i have my own views on the matter ) but i can only back up what everyone else says PLEASE PLEASE do not even consider another kitten/ cat until the results come in from the vets, the main priority now as far as im concerned is Rosie :Luv2:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 09, 2009, 21:45:10 PM: IF YOU READ the post i put previously, then you will know that I aint doing anything until the results are in!!!! >:(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: bonnielass on July 09, 2009, 21:51:57 PM: I know emotions are running high with ref to Portia but please be guided by others on her ,they have vast experience and knowledge of these things, i know its tempting to have kittens especially when they are on free ads but please learn from this dreadful experience, you are hurting and may even feel a bit of guilt over Portia and you tried so hard to help her but sometimes with the best will in the world our best isnt good enough, we dont have the resources / knowledge to deal with these situations
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 09, 2009, 22:02:07 PM: i am hurting bonnie very much , and the only thing im guilty of is loving her soo much :(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: alisonandarchie on July 09, 2009, 22:35:42 PM: So sad to hear about Portia :( :hug:

Thinking about you
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Liz on July 10, 2009, 11:36:53 AM: having lost a Mum and 3 kittens to FIP - Gem and her babies - Star, Cairo and Shanghai and having her daughter Beijing I can say its is a terrible situation but we had about 30 of the Clan tested - and only Beijing came back as a Corona carrier - she is a happy soul and currently playing with the mouse by my keyboard

We were lucky that we could afford the tests - even with our discount Christmas got less than the usual fanfare

We haven't added anyone else to the Clan in the interim although I have 2 new black ferals outside who look young so will be trapping again soon

I would have Rosie tested and then wait a good long while before contermplating adding another furkid

When we rescued Gem we never thought it would end in tragedy and it cost us well in to 4 figures and broke our hearts even after a short time - Beijing stayed with us as we have her father and Gem entrusted us with her daugher.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Angiew on July 10, 2009, 13:33:33 PM: Hoping this link will work.

http://www.moonpig.com/OrderProcess/Previews/OnlinePreview.aspx?o=237122018122001230140116071161008207203005075201055252129052164236178180098000013139192152117068129180044001026119106071089035104093242174131094&pt=1&l=false&adid=StrikePVCH

have bought a big box of muffins for them to take with the card when i go back to pick up the 2 girls who have been spayed.

apologies if you have told me you have donated and I have not put you name on the card (or has spelt it wrong - you know what I'm like!!)
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Janeyk on July 10, 2009, 13:42:08 PM: :Luv2: awwww :'(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Bazsmum on July 10, 2009, 13:42:49 PM: Quote from: Janeyk on July 10, 2009, 13:42:08 PM
:Luv2: awwww :'(

Me too! :'(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 10, 2009, 13:44:17 PM: :'( :'( love you portia :(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Daisymac on July 10, 2009, 13:53:02 PM: That is lovely, thanks Angie.
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Post by: LadyJane on July 10, 2009, 14:12:09 PM: Excellent, well done Angie xx
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on July 10, 2009, 14:16:19 PM: Lisa sorry I've only just caught up with this thread :'(

Please accept me sincere condolences :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on July 13, 2009, 17:14:19 PM: Hi Lisa,

Just wondered how You and Rosie are doing ? :hug:

Hope You are giving each other lots of cuddles, poor Rosie must be missing Portia too.....How is she cping being on her own ??

xxx
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: bonnielass on July 13, 2009, 17:15:48 PM: Rosie isnt on her own anymore as Lisa has a new kitten
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 13, 2009, 18:33:52 PM: have i ???? :shocked: if i have can you tell me where it is cause i aint seen it
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Angiew on July 13, 2009, 18:47:39 PM: Ross the vet has just phoned.
He says Portia had feline enteritis.
I have the vaccination card and told him this and he has asked me to get it to him as he has to report it to the vaccine company.

I phoned the vet that vaccinated portia when i picked up the card, as the first vaccine does not have a vaccine label against it though both were signed by the vet at the cat and rabbit care clinic in northampton. There was some trouble at the vets identifying Portia as I believe the kittens name is not put on the certificate (as they have no name at this stage?)

But then i am a suspicious person.....

Anyway Ross says that if the kitten belonged to one of his clients he would tell them not to get another kitten for at least one month and then only bring the kitten into the house AFTER the kitten had received its full course of 2 injections plus another two weeks to ensure that immunisation had occurred. (and of course the bedding etc, properly disinfected). Existing cats should be checked out. Enteritis is VERY infectious.

Lets hope there is not a new strain of Enteritis going on.....
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: lisa281 on July 13, 2009, 18:49:41 PM: I cannot belive how you are all joining pet forums just to view my profile and posting messages Bazmum pretending to have just lost a kitten to FIP , You must all have really sad lives .
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Bazsmum on July 13, 2009, 18:59:00 PM: ....and do you really believe that by taking the gorgeous b&w kitten off your signature means that he/she wasnt seen by anyone? :shocked:

I feel sorry for any animal that comes into contact with you! 3 :censored: days you knew Portia was ill, 3 :censored: days you craved the attention of all without doing a damn thing to help her, I urged you (as did many) to get her to a vet but all you could say was I cant afford it! Animals cost money, just cos you manage to obtain them for free does not mean that they have less of a right you know! :Crazy:

Personally I would not even let you have a virtual pet!!! >:(

Now where did that troll smiley go? :shify:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Angiew on July 13, 2009, 19:05:51 PM: Lisa, this is the last reply you will get from me on this forum.

I'm very glad you don't have that lovely little back and white kitten with the black cap and half tash that you had on the profile on the other forum - if anyone has that page cached on their pc then perhaps we can show the one we are referring to.

The fact that I knew you had a kitten before seeing the profile is another thing for you to consider.

Anyway, I just hope your new kitten and the other one you are trying to get do not fall ill. I do not understand why someone 'new to cats' did not listen to the worries expressed on this forum about contagion - something which you can see the vet has also expressed concern over, though you have probably chosen to ignore that part of the post.

You were totally out of your depth with Portia - not entirely your fault as she was very ill but you sat posting on this forum about how ill she was with her lying on you mat needing treatment - if you had really cared for her you would have walked the mile to the PDSA clinic and not just typed up about how you could not afford it all.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 13, 2009, 19:07:12 PM: Quote from: Bazsmum on July 13, 2009, 18:59:00 PM
....and do you really believe that by taking the gorgeous b&w kitten off your signature means that he/she wasnt seen by anyone? :shocked:

Yes, I spotted that little kitten too, it does seem to have disappeared now though! I assumed it meant that Lisa had got the all clear from the vet.

Quote from: lisa281 on July 13, 2009, 18:49:41 PM
I cannot belive how you are all joining pet forums just to view my profile

I'm sure many of us are members of other forums, I know I am and have been for a long time. Most I don't post on, but like to see whats going on! You don't need to be registered to view most of them, only to post.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: JackSpratt on July 13, 2009, 19:07:50 PM: Lisa, a lot of people use other pet forums that come on here. I myself use about three others and one specialist site for reptiles. People were very concerned about Portia and it seems quite rightly so.

Please remember that if you have an issue with another member on the forum that it's best not to air it on a thread.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Ela on July 13, 2009, 19:11:08 PM: Quote
He says Portia had feline enteritis.

How sad and such a worry.I and I expect others especially in rescue have seen whole households wiped out with this terrible disease.

What I would say to anyone who has had a cat/kitten in the home with this terrible disease is to discard toys, dishes, trays, bed and other equipment used by the cat/kitten.

I understand the virus can live for up to a year outside the cat/kittens body so if anyone does not want to wait that long before getting another cat, it's probably safer to adopt a fully vaccinated adult cat rather than a kitten
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Post by: Millys Mum on July 13, 2009, 19:14:46 PM: A truly awful disease, please keep a close eye on rosie as vaccination doesnt provide 100% protection :(
I wish your new animals the best of luck and hope if they get ill they will be seen by a vet immediately.
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Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on July 13, 2009, 19:16:13 PM: Quote from: Ela on July 13, 2009, 19:11:08 PM
Quote
He says Portia had feline enteritis.

How sad and such a worry.I and I expect others especially in rescue have seen whole households wiped out with this terrible disease.

What I would say to anyone who has had a cat/kitten in the home with this terrible disease is to discard toys, dishes, trays, bed and other equipment used by the cat/kitten.

I understand the virus can live for up to a year outside the cat/kittens body so if anyone does not want to wait that long before getting another cat, it's probably safer to adopt a fully vaccinated adult cat rather than a kitten

Excellent advice Ela.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Angiew on July 13, 2009, 19:17:12 PM: Quote from: Millys Mum on July 13, 2009, 19:14:46 PM
A truly awful disease, please keep a close eye on rosie as vaccination doesnt provide 100% protection :(
I wish your new animals the best of luck and hope if they get ill they will be seen by a vet immediately.

Rosie's vaccinations lapsed in 2007.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Daisymac on July 13, 2009, 19:44:47 PM: Just to put in my bit here...

Lisa, you have been through a rough time with Portia, it was not your fault that she was ill, but if you do have another kitten at home this is VERY serious, the kitten will get sick, enteritis really will wipe kittens out in days (it will kill them in the end) it is a nasty thing that stays around the household, Rosie is also at risk if her injections are our of date. I know what it is like to want another kitten so badly, look at me, I have 10 of them here and I still want another one. We know all you want to do is give kittens love but there is a time when you have to take responsibility for your actions and if you have another kitten in your house that in un-injected you have literally sentaced it to be very poorly or even die. I dont expect you to tell us anything about your private life, but just do one thing and have a chat with your vet and explain the situation, they will be able to help and give you the right course of action, hopefully if you get the right treatment for them all will be OK and it would be lovely to see pictiures of them on here so we know how they are getting on. :Luv2:

I am not going to say anymore because I really believe all you want to do is provide a nice home for the kittens, but this is just not the right time.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Feline Costumier on July 13, 2009, 20:47:58 PM: Lisa is still looking for other kittens. Curiosity got the better of me and I will admit I shouldn't maybe have done this but I replied to one of Lisa's ads on the classified sites. Reply she sent me below.

Quote
Hiya
Yes we are , can you give me some info on him please , Where abouts are you as i have no transport to collect .
regards lisa

I asked if she was still looking and that's the response I got.

Lisa you have to start listening to the good, experiences advice you are given. You are putting animals at risk. You do not have the financial means to care for one cat let alone any more. Rosie's vaccinations aren't even up to date!
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: bunglycat on July 13, 2009, 20:51:50 PM: Sorry but i am :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: angry and disgusted at whats going on here .
Another kitten after what happened to Portia is totally out of order and downright uncaring !
If whats been said on here that you were sat typing whilst Portia was so ill and you sat looking for sympathy - you should have got off your butt and walked to the vets !
I cannot believe this and poor Portia was suffering all that time and you say you care !? :Crazy:
If you have a ill cat -you go without yourself so you can take it to the vet !!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you even enquire at the vets if you could pay weekly/monthly for treatment???
Rosies vaccinations elapsed in 2007 -what the hell are you playing at !????
You really shouldn''t be taking on any cats ( and to lie about it is unacceptable behaviour and a guilty conscience !!) until you read a few books on cat care, take advice from experienced cat owners , and save up till you can pay for a vet .
If you were ill or any of your family -i bet they would see a doctor immedietly -well cats cannot talk and they need to see a vet immedietly too !!!
I really am going off this thread - i am so bloody angry that people wont go without themselves and this poor little kitten has had to suffer and now another one is in the same household within a week .
Some people need a brain !
You really don''t give a dam about your cats welfare at all -you are bloody selfish and uncaring and as others have put -i wont put more else i will also be banned -what i want to say is unrepeatable !!!!!!
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Den on July 13, 2009, 21:07:58 PM: Peoples it seems to go much further than wanting free kittens. Am sending Tan some very interesting information.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: sheryl on July 13, 2009, 21:11:46 PM: I am not going to post exactly how I feel because I would probably be banned from Purrs and LISA you are not worth getting banned for.

WHY are you so desparate to get another kitten just to put its life in danger ??? are you really so uncaring or just plain stupid ? I truly think that if Portia had received proper veterinary treatment straight away she may have stood a chance at a life and that thought breaks my heart, we will never know now. I feel sorry for Rosie and any other cat that you take on.

I also wont be replying to any more of your posts in the future.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Kirst on July 13, 2009, 21:14:15 PM: I feel sick. I defended you Lisa..............................what a mug I was eh. >:(
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: sheryl on July 13, 2009, 21:18:16 PM: Dont be hard on yourself Kirst - I think we were all taken in and none of us could help but fall in love with little Portia.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: tigerbaby on July 13, 2009, 21:45:01 PM: What a complete :censored:

The word ''animal lover'' seem to have lost it's meaning somewhere along the way.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Wibblechick on July 13, 2009, 21:47:09 PM: I think we all feel let down, at the very least, by the way events have been allowed to progress

Lots of us have posted on Purrs for help - thats how I came here myself - asking for advice - and always there are people who come forward and offer advice. Thanks you all for helping me out, numerous times :)

Whether or not we take the advice is of course up to us .....

But to continually ask for help and ignore all the advice - even when a cat has died ......

I'm very saddened

Ive held back from posting much on this thread up until now - I hoped lessons would be learned.

It looks as if they haven't

Please, please ANYONE in this situation, or a similar one, take the good advice offered - it would be dreadful if help and advice was no longer offered because members felt that they were being taken for a ride or strung along .....

Help is there for anyone who asks for it, but its hard to offer help to someone who abuses our trust !

Thats it - Ive had my say, for what its worth "
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on July 13, 2009, 21:51:30 PM: OK people I think you have got your point across ... there is no need to turn this into a "hate thread". Personal attacks and nasty remarks are NOT what we are about on here.

I realise that people are upset that advice given was not headed but that does not give anyone the right to attack another member of the forum.

I would therefore request that we try to remain civil and remember if you can't say something nice or constructive then it's probably best not to say anything at all.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Wibblechick on July 13, 2009, 21:54:07 PM: Quote from: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on July 13, 2009, 21:51:30 PM
Personal attacks and nasty remarks are NOT what we are about on here.

Point taken :shy:
Title: Re: Any news on Portia? - Sad News
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 13, 2009, 22:20:25 PM: Sam is totally right and this thread is now being locked as a memorial to Portia RIP