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Title: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 25, 2008, 18:47:48 PM
I posted this here as I thought here were alot of us around.

Some of you will know I have had a poor little tabby who visits my garden who is very thin and scared.

I have contacted CP who are coming round in an hour with a trap.

They want me to put it out overnight but I am very worried about my hedgehogs and would prefer to wait until morning when it seems to visit.

Before The woman comes round has any one got any tips or advice

Thanks
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Mark on April 25, 2008, 18:51:18 PM
I only set a trap for the first time in my life yesterday so not much help really  :shy:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Millys Mum on April 25, 2008, 18:52:26 PM
Dont leave the trap unattended over night, well at anytime. Nasty people find trapped cats easy targets and also injuries can occur if a cat gets upset inside the trap.

Best bait is something very stinky, like pilchards in tomato sauce  :sick:

Your hedgehogs wont mind a scrummy supper  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Millys Mum on April 25, 2008, 18:54:11 PM
Also :luck: :luck: :luck:

Once you have caught the cat have a towel handy to cover the trap over
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 25, 2008, 18:54:38 PM
Thanks, daytime or evening would be better as I can keep an eye on it. I am very unhappy with over night.
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Angiew on April 25, 2008, 18:55:22 PM
don't think you're supposed to give hogs fish?
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 25, 2008, 18:56:49 PM
No you cannot feed hedgies fish unfortunatly. As they are about most nights I would prefer to wait until day time
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Den on April 25, 2008, 18:57:55 PM
Alison if you need any help just give me a shout .. I'm just down the hill from you.
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 25, 2008, 19:02:36 PM
Thank you Den if you do not mind I might just ask for some help
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Den on April 25, 2008, 19:05:32 PM
Thank you Den if you do not mind I might just ask for some help

No problem at all. I managed to sort out a very young stray kitten a couple of years ago who ended up at mine every day for a week in the middle of a nasty winter .... got him a lovely new home and he's doing so well  :Luv:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 25, 2008, 19:16:16 PM
That is really good news ;D
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Den on April 25, 2008, 19:30:26 PM
Just remembered, I have a large dog crate if you might need one. In case you catch the kitty and need somewhere to put the poor mite.
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 25, 2008, 19:32:57 PM
Thats great because I would not want to keep it in the trap ;D

She is due in about 5 mins. Apparently she feeds 17 ferals every night
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Mark on April 25, 2008, 19:33:44 PM
I hope you have gauntlets unless you are very brave transferring  :scared:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 25, 2008, 19:37:06 PM
Never though of that and it is very scared as it hisses and growls at Archie and the visitors.
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 25, 2008, 19:38:38 PM
Good luck Alison and hope she has arrived and that Tabby turns up tomorrow  :hug:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 25, 2008, 20:01:03 PM
Thanks Gill. The Woman has been round and dropped off a very large trap and fishey food. I told her we could not use it overnight because of the hedgehogs.

Am I being over sensitive because when I asked about its fate if caught she said it would go to the vet for a check up. If it has something serious or feline aids and cant be found a home it will be pts. Now feel very worried.

Sorry moderators I put this in wrong section because needed urgent advice, will you be able to move it
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: blackcat on April 25, 2008, 20:08:37 PM
sounds like you need to make sure you are the person who discovers the cat in the trap. Den can whisk it away and you can tell your local rescue there was no-one in the trap, but you let it off so that neighbour's cats could not be caught ... :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 25, 2008, 20:10:51 PM
Yes I will move this ands I find it so worrying that so many Cpo branches are still willing to put pts cats when there is no need.

Someone from my Art Socirety had a stray she called Whisky move in and Cp took it on same condition as yours luckily Whosky has been passed fit but now she is thinking about having him back but is worried cos she is 72.

Knocked me over with a freather cos I thought she was much younger.

I wish my keyboard could type and no I dont drink  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 25, 2008, 20:30:37 PM
I feel really grrrr. Feel in a terrible position over this poor tabby. It obviously needs help but if I get it help it might mean curtains for it. :( The only alternative in this area is the Animal Shelter which will probably have the same policy but will check in the morning.

Wish I felt physically stronger then could  probably do more.

BC the trap is in my garden so I will be in control, have the womans phone no.

Are there any signs I should look out for that might tell me the cat is really sick. It has very large round eyes that seem to stick out a bit, could this be something or just because its lost weight
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Den on April 25, 2008, 20:34:24 PM
I feel really grrrr. Feel in a terrible position over this poor tabby. It obviously needs help but if I get it help it might mean curtains for it. :( The only alternative in this area is the Animal Shelter which will probably have the same policy but will check in the morning.

Wish I felt physically stronger then could  probably do more.

BC the trap is in my garden so I will be in control, have the womans phone no.

Are there any signs I should look out for that might tell me the cat is really sick. It has very large round eyes that seem to stick out a bit, could this be something or just because its lost weight

The animal shelter don't test for FIV/feline aids BUT they will PTS if they cat appears to be sick/has something seriously wrong. It would go into quarantine for 7 days if the vet thinks it's ok after that it will be put up for rehoming. Of course they will check for a chip to start with to see if it has an owner.
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 25, 2008, 20:40:19 PM
Den do you think if I caught it it would be better to go to the Animal Shelter
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: blackcat on April 25, 2008, 20:40:25 PM
large round prominent eyes (unless you are Marty Feldman) usually mean fear and excessive weight loss. Only way to identify those sorts of disease would be a blood test I would think.
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 25, 2008, 20:41:03 PM
Thank BC
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Den on April 25, 2008, 20:50:23 PM
Den do you think if I caught it it would be better to go to the Animal Shelter

It depends on the state of the kitty. I actually volunteered there a lot last year, and did get a job but I packed it in after a very short time as it wasn't suiting me ... as a result I've felt sooooooooooooo guilty and haven't been back since January  :-[ My point is I don't know how full they are at the moment. Whilst they do a brilliant job there it's not a specialist cat place. It's a hard one really, they don't test for FIV etc but the kitty wouldn't get as much attention than a dedicated CP place. It would get all the medical care, a lovely heated place to stay. If it's hissing at everyone though I don't know ... they won't PTS unless they feel like they really have no choice, ie they feel there is a reason it would be unrehomable. Or as I said its really sick. Whilst I was there very few cats got PTS and the ones that did were all really sick, that the vet felt there was no quality of life.

I really don't know what to suggest. I'm torn as to which would be best ... they both have plus points. I never encountered an aggressive cat (except for the boarding cats) - I don't know what their policies are for cats who are wary .. all the ones I encountered for rehoming were loveable cuddle bugs.
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 25, 2008, 21:58:40 PM
I went out to Tesco and feel a bit calmer now.

Thanks Den. I think when and if I catch Tabby I will have a good look at him and decide. It did let OH tickle behind its ears but did not like me touching it. Maybe because it is very scared.
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Den on April 25, 2008, 22:11:03 PM
I sent you a PM with a bit more info for you to make your decision.
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Rosella moggy on April 26, 2008, 08:03:36 AM
Just a thought Alison. You might want to try telphoning the lady who lost a tabby cat again and explain you are very worried about this tabby's future if you are able to trap it for CP and that you would be very grateful if she could ring you if only to tell you that her tabby was found. 

Do hope he turns up today
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 26, 2008, 08:12:05 AM
Alison, just catching up with this, and hope you manage to have luck in catching this little lady.  Let your instinct guide you as to what to do if you can catch her.  Would your local vet look her over if you took her in to them?

 :hug:  And don't get stressed.   :hug:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on April 26, 2008, 08:30:55 AM
Dont panic I am sure with the wonderful rescue people on here, even if the cat is ill, something can be sorted for it.
Once it has been caught, tell the CP lady that you dont want any decisions made without the speaking to you.

Good luck xxxx
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 26, 2008, 09:06:46 AM
Some great advice thank you. I will phone the lady again Rosella. Sue Good idea about me taking Tabby to my vet.  MichelleIf I catch Tabby I will tell CP that I want to be informed of any decision they make before they implement it.

OH told me it had come into garden 15mins ago. He gently called it and it came up to him a little way. It went past trap and because of this I put a pouch of food out as I was so desperate for it to eat.

I will go out to check trap in a minute as I wanted it to eat in peace. Have kept Archie in.

I am beginning to wonder if it is part Bengal, sp?, or all Bengal as its markings are so striking.
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on April 26, 2008, 10:32:05 AM
Alison, there is a chance you wont be able to trap him this morning now you have fed him out of the trap. The idea is that their only way of getting food is in the trap so they have no alternative. A lot of tabbies have striking markings, it doens't mean they have any pedigree in them. Good luck with catching him
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Yvonne on April 26, 2008, 10:41:30 AM
Good morning Alison,

I wish you the very best of luck with trapping Tabby, maybe we can exchange some useful tips here.  Don't worry about trapping hedgehogs - I caught one in my trap last night and he came to no harm whatsoever.

I am not up to speed on your stray cat, whereabouts in the country are you and is there any reason why you could not take the cat in youself?  I think that the Rescue response is a little generalised and it is good that you want to be kept informed regarding Tabby, hopefully somebody on here can help - I will offer myself but geographically I do tend to be a bit compromised.

Right here goes - I have already lost this post once (new laptop)
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 26, 2008, 10:48:30 AM
Desley you are right and I have little chance of trapping it today. Tomorrow I will just put the food in the trap, although I will worry if it does not eat anything.

Yvonne I live in Cheltenham. We have not been able to catch the cat ourselves so far but I have not given up . It is so wary of people and scared. We leave the back door open but this has not worked yet.

The only thing I have trapped so far is Archie who liked the food and was not bothered about being unable to get out ;)
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Den on April 26, 2008, 11:46:33 AM
Alison does this tabby have white back feet and legs or at least some white on the back legs?
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Mark on April 26, 2008, 11:56:09 AM


The only thing I have trapped so far is Archie who liked the food and was not bothered about being unable to get out ;)

 :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: JackSpratt on April 26, 2008, 12:24:02 PM
Good luck catching Tabby, Alison. :)
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 26, 2008, 13:48:36 PM

Thanks JS

Mark I only wish the Tabby was as easy to trap as Archie :evillaugh:



Den the Tabby has no white on it at all, its totally tabby. Its got quite big ears and big round eyes. Its also very thin and long
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Gwen on April 26, 2008, 21:58:56 PM
Any luck with catching the tabby? :shify:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 26, 2008, 22:52:36 PM
Unfortunatly not Gwen. At the moment it tends to appear in the morning when Archie is asleep. If Archie sees it he chases the poor thing. Will set the trap and look out for it first thing
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Millys Mum on April 27, 2008, 11:02:39 AM
If tabby isnt going in the trap then i would try taking out the clear perspex end and feeding the cat in the trap unset. Start the food by the door and move it inwards until confidence is gained. Then set it and hopefully trick tabby  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Yvonne on April 27, 2008, 11:08:40 AM
Good morning Alison,

How is it going?  Success I have caught piggy in the trap   :yayyy: :yayyy:

I recommend setting the trap overnight because there appears to be a lot of movement as it gets light very early in the morning when everything is still and the majority of the human population are still in their beds.

 :luck:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 27, 2008, 11:21:34 AM
Yvonne so pleases you have caught Piggy ;D

I am still quite reluctant to set it at night beacuse of the hedgies. Would be a bit worried if I had to release it in daytime. I take your point that night is the best time.

Millys Mum that is a wonderful idea as tabby is very wary of trap. It is definatly a female. It only seems to appear between 9-10 am
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Yvonne on April 27, 2008, 11:25:51 AM
How about setting the trap at about 6 am it will be light then and you could go back to bed for a couple of hours?  Just a thought as Tabby appears between 9 - 10 am.

 :luck:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 27, 2008, 11:58:01 AM
Yes I could definatly do that, have to set the alarm :wow:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 28, 2008, 22:42:34 PM
Thank you everyone for all your help. Over the past two days I have managed to gain Tabbys trust and put a paper collar on it this afternoon. It does have an owner who phoned me up about half an hour ago saying Tabby had just come in.

She has 6 cats. She was ok with me but definatly did not want to chat which is odd for a cat lover. She seemed a bit annoyed with Tabby.

Poor Tabby was absolutly starving this afternoon.

Well at least I have solved the mystery but will ask around locally to see what I can find out about the woman
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Gwen on April 28, 2008, 22:45:59 PM
How dare her be annoyed with the poor cat >:(

Glad you managed to solve the problem though :hug:
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 28, 2008, 23:09:32 PM
I dont think the problem is solved cos there is a desperately hungry cat, who may be used for breeding and the woman doesnt want to talk and is angry at the cat!

I hope you are able to find out something locally Alison, maybe local rescues and local vets?
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 28, 2008, 23:31:42 PM
Will see what I can find out in the neighbourhood, then recues and vets are very good ideas.

There was something about her attitude I did not like >:(
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 29, 2008, 07:39:42 AM
I must admit, as a cat lover, I do always find people who are casual about their cats a bit of an enigma.  I can't figure it out, because most of my cat loving, cat owning friends are always happy to chunter on about what their cats have been doing etc.  Even people who look after feral cats seem to take a keen interest in the welfare and behaviour of those cats, and if I had a  beautiful girl who was visiting other people's houses and eating a good dinner there, I'd want to know about it.
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on April 29, 2008, 07:48:55 AM
Aww, fingers crossed you can get to the bottom of this.
Title: Re: Very urgent help needed re trapping a cat
Post by: Millys Mum on April 29, 2008, 15:44:07 PM
Sometimes old skinny cats wander away to die under a bush, how sad if that should happen to tabby...