Topic: Mango Bear is back at home now. (Read 20561 times)

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #57 on:** October 01, 2009, 20:58:23 PM »

Sending positive vibes Mango's way and a

for you both

Quote from: Millys Mum on October 01, 2009, 18:44:03 PM

im sure its not, it would have shown up when her fiv did and she has been indoor since, it wont stop you worrying tho

That's exactly what I was thinking MM

clarenmax · « **Reply #56 on:** October 01, 2009, 20:43:16 PM »

I can't believe its FELV, so will keep fingers crossed that its not

Millys Mum · « **Reply #55 on:** October 01, 2009, 18:44:03 PM »

im sure its not, it would have shown up when her fiv did and she has been indoor since, it wont stop you worrying tho

Second the sample taking, sometimes you need a specific antibiotic to treat an infection

Teresa Pawcats · « **Reply #54 on:** October 01, 2009, 17:59:26 PM »

Hope all goes well for Mango, might be an idea to send off faeces samples but make sure you do it when poop is runny.
Take care

Janeyk · « **Reply #53 on:** October 01, 2009, 17:54:49 PM »

Hope that the results are ok Mojo

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #52 on:** October 01, 2009, 17:45:03 PM »

I am sure it is not as this would have been discovered or thought about by the vet before

I hope they can find what is the problem quickly and sort it out. Lots of thoughts for Mango and you

Mojo · « **Reply #51 on:** October 01, 2009, 17:32:16 PM »

Mango has still been pooping erratically and it's a bit sloppy. |Just taken her to the vets again as the last poops were very runny and had lots of mucus

The vet thinks it might be FELV. She has had blood taken and am waiting results. The vet will be calling tonight.

gutted.

swampmaxmum · « **Reply #50 on:** September 16, 2009, 09:29:59 AM »

Try not to worry, that is mild renal failure and as others have said, you are on to it early. I buy k/d online. Like others I'm confused as to why the vet wants the dry one, if Mango will eat the wet. There's the pouches of k/d and also they do the minced chicken cans, which most cats (most cats that eat renal food that is!) seem to prefer. Don't buy the original recipe, it's like rock hard soap, but get the minced chicken one.
You could get a few cans from your vet before ordering online, then if Mango won't eat it, Hills will take it back and you'll get refunded.
There is also Royal Canin renal chicken and tuna pouches that some cats like too.
all the best. No idea about why she poos in the house though, sorry!

Mojo · « **Reply #49 on:** September 16, 2009, 09:25:09 AM »

Still doesn't explain the rratic pooping all around the house though

Think I should speak to the vet again about that, but she has already had two long courses of antib's so what else could it be apart from bahavioural? The actual poop is fine most of the time (occasionally a bit sloppy) so this is what is really confusing me.

clarenmax · « **Reply #48 on:** September 16, 2009, 08:59:52 AM »

Those readings, although higher than normal, are not the end of the world at all, and I'm sure the renal diet together with the meds will bring those down and stabilise. It looks like this has been caught early which is the main thing

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #47 on:** September 16, 2009, 08:32:04 AM »

They dont look too bad, similar to Rosie's. K/D can be bought online or from teh vets, I wouldn't feed a cat with kidney issues dry food only though. Rest of food can be bought from places I said yesterday

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #46 on:** September 15, 2009, 23:16:54 PM »

Claim with AXA is as I described

Mojo · « **Reply #45 on:** September 15, 2009, 15:18:20 PM »

she seems to drink fine, though I will keep more of an eye out now.

I was mistaken and I believe she can have the K/D pouches though where is the best place to shop for both the meat and biscuits?

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #44 on:** September 15, 2009, 15:13:19 PM »

Well those results don't look too bad to me, they're not hugely elevated so with the Fortekor she will hopefully be just fine for a long while to come yet

As an example Tiggy's results were Urea 35 and Creatinine 312 - she was on Fortekor and shortly before she died (of an unrelated illness aged almost 19) the results were back within the normal range.

The vets will want to retest her blood at some point in the future but you need to give time for the Fortekor and any diet change to take effect. I couldn't get Tiggy to eat any of the renal diets so fed her 'normal' wet cat food with a phosphorous binder but no point in worrying about foods if she will happily eat the renal diets, although that said I don't think I'd be happy feeding 100% dry to a cat with kidney issues

There's lots to take in but this site is an absolute mine of information http://www.felinecrf.org/

Bazsmum · « **Reply #43 on:** September 15, 2009, 14:54:26 PM »

Quote from: Mojo on September 15, 2009, 14:37:07 PM

They advised to ONLY give her the k/d biscuits?!?!

Different vets have different views on what actually is causing kidney issues in cats....Its an ongoing study for them and they are not really sure if not having biscuits will help....

Is she drinking plenty?

Mojo · « **Reply #42 on:** September 15, 2009, 14:37:07 PM »

Mango's results were:

Urea = 12.9 (should be between 3 and 10.2)

Creatinine = 220 (should be up to 190)

TP (total protein) = 79 (should be between 52 and 77)

Got 14 tablets for now, 1 a day. When we get near end of the tablets, we have to phone vets and advise how she’s getting on.
They advised to ONLY give her the k/d biscuits?!?!

clarenmax · « **Reply #41 on:** September 15, 2009, 09:05:12 AM »

Aw hun, sorry to hear Mango's diagnosis, if you can post up the creatinine and urea readings then we can compare them to our respective babes readings etc

Max was insured with AXA, and we always managed to get bills paid even with the FIV, my vets were adamant the 2 were not related as such, and pushed through each and every claim, which covered the drugs, as well as the ongoing blood testing etc, so you should be fine with them, they are a good company

At this stage don't worry, things will become more apparent over the coming months with the repeat blood tests, then you can monitor whether this is some kind of acute renal issue, or actual CRF which can be treated successfully.

I'm sure you vets will give you lots of advice, but there's loads of us on here who can help as well, so just ask with any questions you have. I can remember only too well feeling scared at the diagnosis, but there's no need to be, even if CRF is the official diagnosis, if caught early enough and with the right treatment, cats can go on to live for a few years beyond diagnosis. We lost Max a year and a half after he was diagnosed, but he also had thyroid problems, and was older, so was more difficult for us

Mojo · « **Reply #40 on:** September 15, 2009, 08:47:29 AM »

Quote from: Gill (sneakiefeline) on September 14, 2009, 19:42:39 PM

I am so sorry and thats very young for kidney failure

You make your first claim for the treatment and stuff that she has had and then every claim after that for anything related is just a continuation of the first claim..............who are you ensured with?

Lots of love and improvement vibes to Bear

She is with Axa and this will be her first claim.
In response to Desley, she generally has wet food and just a handful of biscuits a day so her diet is mainly wet anyway. She is currently on Felix AGAIL but this could be changed to something else. Luckily she is not fussy in the slightest and will eat anything! (including tablets, she ate her antib's like sweets!) I will ask the vet for her levels of creatnine and Urea to try and get an idea of how bad it is.

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #39 on:** September 15, 2009, 07:49:20 AM »

I am sorry to hear this, it is rare to hear it in a cat so young - but there is such a thing as ARF, rather than CRf, which can happen in young cats, it is more acute than chronic. I wouldnt put her on k/d biscuits though, cats with kidney issues need all the moisture they can get, so really did a wet food only diet - there are loads of kidney diets available, RC do 3 flavours, Hills do 3, Zooplus sell Kattovit and Integra, and VetUK sell Purina and something else, so plenty to try her on. Fingers crossed for her

Janeyk · « **Reply #38 on:** September 15, 2009, 07:08:48 AM »

sorry to hear your cat has CRF, this link may help explain some things and there are further links in our health and behaviour guides:

http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php/topic,4817.0.html

Bazsmum · « **Reply #37 on:** September 15, 2009, 02:18:45 AM »

Oh dear!

JackSpratt · « **Reply #36 on:** September 14, 2009, 23:21:44 PM »

That's so awful. Poor you, and poor Bear.

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #35 on:** September 14, 2009, 20:10:54 PM »

What a shock

She's so young to have CRF

Did the vets tell you what the actual figures were results wise?

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #34 on:** September 14, 2009, 19:42:39 PM »

I am so sorry and thats very young for kidney failure

You make your first claim for the treatment and stuff that she has had and then every claim after that for anything related is just a continuation of the first claim..............who are you ensured with?

Lots of love and improvement vibes to Bear

CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls · « **Reply #33 on:** September 14, 2009, 19:33:27 PM »

God bless her, thats awful news

Mojo · « **Reply #32 on:** September 14, 2009, 19:11:39 PM »

The vet called back. Mango's bloods shows raised levels of Urea and Creatnine, and she has early kidney failure and needs to go onto Fortekor and the K/D biscuits. Her white cells were also low (but we were expecting that as she has FIV). But none of this explains why she is still running away from her number twos!

questions-

What can I expect in terms of how ill she may get/How long she has left

etc?

How do I claim for the continued Fortekor on insurance?

my poor Bear.She is only three.

Bazsmum · « **Reply #31 on:** September 14, 2009, 16:01:20 PM »

Aw! Its really annoying when they cant find anything immediately wrong...I hope the tests show up a possible reason for it!

Lots of hugs to yourself and Mango!

Mojo · « **Reply #30 on:** September 14, 2009, 15:59:15 PM »

Well, the good times did not last long. Bear has had a couple more incidents since the 10 day course of antib's and is still not better. Back to the vet last saturday who has taken some blood.

Am still awaiting results (was told it would be today) but apparently they had an emergency this morn so will get back to me. It might be something similar to IBS or something which needs Vit B injections or something?

My poor Bear

Janeyk · « **Reply #29 on:** September 02, 2009, 14:10:11 PM »

It will be lovely to see a photo

clarenmax · « **Reply #28 on:** September 02, 2009, 14:02:06 PM »

Oh yes, I think such a photo will be far more what we have in mind

Mojo · « **Reply #27 on:** September 02, 2009, 12:09:28 PM »

I think I will however provide a photo of the new slimline Bear as she has lost a bit of weight since this debacle started!

She has gone from 5kilos to 4.4 now. I will see if I can get a good photo of her showing her new trim figure

clarenmax · « **Reply #26 on:** September 02, 2009, 09:03:26 AM »

Excellent news

Defo no pictures of this required

Bazsmum · « **Reply #25 on:** September 02, 2009, 02:10:35 AM »

Quote from: trigger on September 01, 2009, 22:31:17 PM

odd, isn't it, how on some threads everyone is clamouring for piccies

whereas on others .............................................

Hmmm! Reverse psychology methinks!

Janeyk · « **Reply #24 on:** September 01, 2009, 22:39:20 PM »

That's good to hear

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #23 on:** September 01, 2009, 22:32:03 PM »

Thats great

Kay and Penny · « **Reply #22 on:** September 01, 2009, 22:31:17 PM »

odd, isn't it, how on some threads everyone is clamouring for piccies

whereas on others .............................................

Bazsmum · « **Reply #21 on:** September 01, 2009, 22:18:21 PM »

Yeah I seen the other thread!

So glad that all found its way to the tray!

Mojo · « **Reply #20 on:** September 01, 2009, 22:16:10 PM »

Mango went to the vets again on saturday morning as she was still not using her tray (I started another thread called "scared to poop")

Well, the vet gave her an even longer course of anti B's and I think this time it's done the trick. Today, right after dinner, Bear treated us to the sight of her taking a long luxurious dump in her tray LOL

but at least it wasn't up the wall on on the carpet!!!!

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #19 on:** July 21, 2009, 15:12:35 PM »

Aww bless her, hope the meds sort her out

Bazsmum · « **Reply #18 on:** July 21, 2009, 14:22:36 PM »

Hope the abs and anti inflamatories work quickly for her!

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