Purrs In Our Hearts - Cat Forum UK
Cat General => General Cat Chat => Topic started by: Miroslav on June 08, 2012, 10:12:51 AM
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My near 18 year old boy was rushed to the vets this morning after having trouble breathing. I didn't think he'd make it to the car let alone the vets.
He was as normal when we got to the vets and he's having x-rays and tests today.
I'm not expecting him to come home, but naturally I want him back. Vet said he can't say what it is until the x-rays/tests etc but it may be Asthma or similar - his heart sounded fine and he couldn't find anything in examination.
Lost 3 in 8 months (April 2009 - January 2010) so i'm amazed the other two have lasted this long (all same age)
Good vibes appreciated as i'm all over the place. He's been the only boy and my best buddy for nearly 18 years (they are all loved and treated equally, he's just my buddy whereas the girls are all my 'sweeties' :evillaugh: :evillaugh: )
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How very frightening. Am so very sorry to hear this :( :( :(
Sending best wishes to Moses by the bucketload :hug: :hug: :hug:.
Also sending a :hug: for Minty as assume she will wonder where her pal is :(
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Moses...
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How very frightening. Am so very sorry to hear this :( :( :(
Sending best wishes to Moses by the bucketload :hug: :hug: :hug:.
Also sending a :hug: for Minty as assume she will wonder where her pal is :(
Thanks Rosella...
No idea why my pic went twice, but hey...
Minty and Moses don't get on. Every other pairing did, just not these two. She has the issue with him and they don't interact other than walk past each other (when he's brave enough) but she'll be affected in some way and will get even more attention than usual!
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how scary hope you get some good news soon
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Thanks Dawn :thanks:
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Much love coming Moses' way from me and the Tufty Club. :hug: :hug:
I think I know what Moses means to you. Jarvis was my OH's best friend, it was like an Old Boys Club the way they felt about one another. :hug: :hug:
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Thanks Sheila.
He is my best buddy, although all of my girls are of equal importance too. They are all my faves :Luv: just the relationships are different and dictated by the cats themselves
Minty is my sofa sweetie. She always sits next to me and cuddles me :innocent: Big cuddly madam :naughty: :shy: :shy:
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Fingers crossed for Moses :hug: :hug: :hug:
Hope they can find out whats up. 18 is some age mind, you must be doing everything right for your little furbabes! xxx
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Good luck to Moses. :hug:
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Thanks for all the best wishes :hug:
Update:
Had a call from the vet.
Moses has two problems - chronic asthma and an inflated heart cavity.
The vet says it's unusual for a cat to have such an inflated cavity.
He wishes to treat the heart first as treating the asthma may push his heart over the edge.
It may be that he needs occasionally putting in a cage to help? He gave me alot of info over the phone, but we'll talk more when we go and collect him later - still coming around from sedation.
I need to spend some time trawling the internet to find some literature on this, whilst I await the time to go and collect my lad.
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:hug: :hug: :hug:
Hope the vet gets Moses sorted out .
I had a cat with a enlarged heart and he had seasonal asthma . The vet put him on prednisone (sp?)
He did fine on that , but he was a lot younger , he was on Fortekur for his heart for years .
In the end he got cancer as he also had herpes virus .
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Thanks bunglycat.
We'll see what the vet says later. Alot of what he said on the phone went over my head. I should have a clearer idea later of what he's up against.
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Very sorry you have had such worrying news :hug: :hug: :hug: I have no experience of either condition but send shed loads of good wishes to Moses :care: :care: :care:
It may be that he needs occasionally putting in a cage to help?
Is that what vet said? Just wondering if that might be stressful for Moses. Is he very active in any event? We have had three cats reach 18 years old and can't say any of them were that active that a cage would have slowed them down much :hug: I'm only mentioning so you can discuss with vet later.
It's always difficult to keep a clear mind when you receive worrying news about a loved one :hug: Write down anything that springs to mind so you don't forget when you speak with vet. A good question to ask is "what would you do Mr/Ms Vet if he were your cat?" Doesn't mean you have to do as they say but it might give you more realistic expectations :hug:
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Sky has asthma (without the inflated heart cavity). She had an injection about 4 months ago and that seems to have cleared it up for the most part. Fully expect it to return and for her to have another injection but she isn't having daily attacks any more.
Hope your vet is able to do something for Moses :hug:
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Thanks Rosella and sootyca.
I'll respond fully when on a PC (on tricky mobile at moment)
Moses is home. With heart tablets and something else for his airways. A bit disorientated, had a long drink and wandered around and has now decided to sleep.
He didn't want any food with his tablet in. Very worried as he's not eaten since about 10pm last night. I'm hoping he will be hungry later.
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Pleased to hear Moses is home and resting. It might be worth trying to hide his tables in a little bit of cream cheese or meat paste. Whenever I have to give tablets to my boy I buy a couple of slices of chicken breast from the deli counter and with a bit of creative moulding between the fingers my boy wolfs down the meaty lump (tablets and all ;)).
Sending lots of get well vibes to your boy xxx
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Hi Sam.
Thanks for the suggestion. I put a little tablet in a small piece of chicken breast and he seems to have eaten it.
He may wonder all of a sudden why he's getting extra chicken, but hopefully this will work again later.
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Glad he has taken his tablet :Luv2:
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Relieved he's home tonight. The rest is down to your care, luck, vet judgement and a tiny bit of Purrs vibes :hug: :hug:
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I'm panicking as he's not taking his other tablet.
It's bigger than the other one and he has little interest in food at the moment. Crushed one up in cat milk and he had a little but...
Stressing big time.
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Does your vet have emergency cover? You could ring for advice :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Cats are really smart. If he's not being fooled into taking his pill voluntarily, you might just have to pop it in there. Here's a video which shows how to do it right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSxjeAMuTEI&feature=related
The secret is getting him on the kitchen table in just the right position to pop it in and poke it down... or having a sober and sensible partner to poke it down while you hold his mouth open.
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You could crush the pill, mix it with butter and then smear it on his paw, they usually lick it off?
I've got a cat called Moses too, we named him that as he was left in a vets surgery, in a basket, and he is a devil cat :Crazy:
I had a cat years ago who had cardiomyopathy, enlarged heart muscle and he had a heart attack at the age of 7, but lived till he was 19, on water tablets (diurectics) and prednisolone. Every now and then his heart cavity filled with fluid and he went to vets and had it drained off. Hope Moses will be okay :(
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Thanks for all the ideas.
He's not eating at all now. Had a couple of bits of chicken earlier and a tiny bit of Tuna........no interest in cat food or any more offers of Tuna. His breathing became a little faster.
Have opened a window, which has helped in the past and he's a bit better and falling asleep.
My vet has an emergency number, but that's as far is it goes.
Sorry i'm not replying in full. Hope you understand i'm all over the place.
We mixed his tablet with some cat milk when crushed and he drank some of it - he appears to be drinking.
Don't think he's going to make it :-[
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He just had trouble breathing again, but was okay in a few seconds and is resting again.
Do I continue to monitor or phone the vet. OMG I hate this.
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So sorry that Moses is not well and see you had no reply to your last question and its about 30 mins on.
If you are concerned about Moses you definately need to contact the vet. On his emergency number will be how to get emergency help.
Sending loads of good vibes to Moses and hope that he has improved a bit by the morning.
He will also breath faster if he is panicking , for what ever reason :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Hi Gill, thanks for responding at such an unearthly hour.
He's sleeping at the moment. About 20 mins into a sleep, the longest he's been settled since coming home.
He'll probably wake up now, but i'll be here.
Flatmate up for 23 hours needs some rest and i'm only at 19 hours.
He got some air from the window when he panicked - it seems to help him.
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sorry just seen this thread :(
sending love and prayers to Moses and you :hug:
I have no clue what to suggest here re his tablets...mine like worm tablets hidden in ham etc but cats are sneaky and spit the tablets out if you arent watching :scared:
If the air seems to be helping then thats good...poor little man. He may be exhausted from it all....hopefully some rest will restore his strength xx
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Thanks thekittensmittens
We got some of each tablet in him...
He just had a 90 minute sleep but has been up for a few minutes again, breathing quite fast.
Still not eating....Not looking good.
I'm wearing 3 t-shirts and a winter coat as windows are open to allow for some fresh air.
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Damn! He was tempted by sardines but didn't go through with it!
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any news this morning? you must be exhausted :(
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How are things this morning, Miroslav?
Sounds like you've had a terrible night. You may be better popping him to the vet today for them to observe him if they have overnight facilities, Moses would be in the best place if his condition worsened, and you would be able to get some rest.
I know this may sound a little harsh, please don't take it to heart, but I wonder if the stress you are under might actually be making Moses more stressed, and adding to this panic he's experiencing? If you speak to your vet today, mention the stress you are both under and see what he says. There may be a viable solution you can cook up between you.
Huge positive vibes coming your way for Moses :hug: :hug:
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Hi thekittensmittens and sheila
He's ok. Just had a couple of mouthfuls of food and drinking plenty of water.
He's purring louder han i've ever heard him. Considering, he's not in a bad place mentally at all. His breathing, although at times a little faster than normal, hasn't deteriorated like yesterday morning.
I spoke to the vets on the phone and they are content with his progress.
I'm not showing any stress with him, although he may feel my stress. He's actually in a decent head space if his purring is anything to go by. He's even attempting to play our games (which involve me turning around, turning around to face him again and he lets out a kind of a 'mert' noise) He loves it and I think he knows we are trying to help.
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glad he is confortable this morning, if the vet is happy that is good
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This is pleasing news. Very happy to read that you've managed your stress away from him so he's content in his own head.
Hoping for continued progress, I think you're doing wonderfully :hug:
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topping up the get well vibes for Moses!
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Was thinking along the same lines as sheilarose,i know it's hard but,cats will pick up on your stress.x Sending good vibes for Moses.
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Sending loads of good vibes and thinking of you both. xx :hug: :hug:
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Thanks folks.
He had a little episode earlier where he made his way to the window for air, but he's calmed again - don't worry, the window was only ajar and I was with him the whole time.
He'll need a tablet shortly - I hate this bit.
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good news that hes now a happy purring cat :wow:
hope the tablet goes down well :Crazy:
what else did the vet say? is he just to have the tablets and hope he perks up or is he due back ?
there is a thread somewhere about window mesh ..cant remember who mentioned it now. basically its a mesh screen that attachs to your window with velcro so you could leave window ajar knowing hes not going to escape. that could give you a little time to rest without having to watch him like a hawk :hug:
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He's had a couple of problems this afternoon, but nothing like it has been.
Tablet time is proving impossible.
Vet says to call on Monday and in meantime, emergency vet is available 24 hours.
Off to get a humidifier!
I'll look into the mesh when I get back. It would be useful.
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I think this is the window mesh we were talking about, Jo. Must say it looks perfect for Miroslav's needs, and folks say the chap who runs the business is extremely helpful ;D
http://www.flat-cats.co.uk/
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Sorry to hear Moses is so poorly :hug:
I have some tried and trusted tablet tricks, you only need one to work to hit the jackpot :hug:
I have an addition to the list which I discovered when Riley had a diaorrhea and had to take Metronidazole which had been broken into quarters exposing their bitterness, he refused any of the below as he could obviously still smell/taste the tablet so I discovered Webbox treats. They're stick treats but quite maleable so I cut a piece off and moulded it round the tablet.
For the last two years when she was having 5 tablets a day my main methods were 1 & 2 below (with no 2 being less sticky!), if she were feeling off colour I had to resort to one of the other methods. One of the tablets she had was Fortekor (for CRF not heart failure) so the tips definitely work with that shape/size of tablet.
1) Primula Cheese in a tube (Chs, Chs & Ham, Chs & Prawn but NOT chs & chive), also works with Dairylea triangles, laughing cow etc, just cut a small chunk off.. Place tablet on finger, squirt a blob of Primula on, Tiggy licked it off, tablet and all.
2) De-furrum treats (available from places like Pets at Home, Jollyes etc) they are designed for hairballs. When snapped in half there is a gooey mix which holds the tablet perfectly when you poke it in. Tiggy loved these and hoovered them up.
3) Wafer thin ham (Bernard Matthews is best as is nice and moist and sticks to itself when folded over). Wrap tablet in small parcel and hand feed, the tablet may fall out the first time so I roll up in another piece and keep going. Wafer thin Beef or Chicken is also effective.
4) Cheddar Cheese, experiment with varieties but the moister the better. Shave of a thinnish layer and squish around the tablet.
5) Chicken breast, don't overcook, needs to be nice and moist. Shave a thinnish layer and again squish around tablet.
6) Tuna, squeeze most of the juiceout and squish around tablet.
7) For powdered meds: Beef sandwich paste (check ingredients NO onion or garlic) mix with a little hot water to make a yummy beefy paste.
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Thanks for the link Sheila and for the ideas Tiggys mum...I have noted them for use later.
Just had 1 of his tablets mashed In marmite. He initially licked the spoon but needed to wipe the rest on his mouth. think he had it all though.
He's now calm. Hope it lasts for as long as possible.
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Are tabs Fureosemide which is a diuretic or Fortekor ? The first can be given by injection if necessary
as for pills what always works for my cats is the tiny tins of Gourmet gold pate the fishy one -it's like fish paste and so gooey tablet gets stuck in it and so smelly it hides the scent and taste.
Hope he gets on well and starts to improve
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Just lost a reply on myphone ...will post again when on pc but it was about a nice moment.
Moses is doing ok. Calmer. Maybe tablets have helped.
Frusemide and Benazacare are the two tablets, tagalong. We have some of that gourmet. He does like it.
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If he is on a duritic that is why he is drinking a lot and he will need to.
I dont want to put a damper on things but you need to know that purring is not always the sign of a happy cat, cats also purr to try and make themselves feel good when they are feeling very bad.
I so hope that this is not the case with Moses and sending loads more good vibes :hug: :hug: :hug:
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I was thinking the same thing, Gill. Sly has what my vet calls his "Please don't hurt me?" Purr. It's quite loud but you can see the fright in his body language :scared:
Hope this isn't the case for poor Moses. :hug:
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Thanks Gill and Sheila.
I understand your point about the purring (I wasn't aware they purred when trying to be happy). I would however say that he seems pretty happy at the moment and he's coming to see us (more below) and his breathing has improved. He's had a very good night.
The big concern right now is his lack of appetite. He's drinking but not eating. I've been to Tesco and have different cat foods/treats and a feshly cooked chicken, plus other options suggested - Primula cheese, Paste, Mackerel, fish, baby food (minus garlic and onion - only 2 tins of about 100!)
Anyway, my post from last night (plus update) that my phone deleted!
I went to bed and shed tears - he's never been away from my side at night apart from about 10-14 days, since we got him aged 2 months - now nearly 18. All of those were when I was away so he's never chosen to not be with me at night, or at least a large part of it.
About 2 hours into my sleep, I heard my flatmates voice at my open bedroom door. I can sleep through bad weather, loud bangs and virtually anything, but her voice usually means something is up!
She whispered that he had made his way upstairs into my room and then I heard him taking the route he always does to get to me. I popped my head up and there was his cheeky little face staring at me. He came and sat/lay by me for a bit before moving across to the other side of the bed and layed with me. Flatmate quickly got him some chicken and he scoffed a couple of thumbtip sized pieces before leaving to have a drink and then go back downstairs. I followed him and then went back to bed when he was settled - within seconds he was back upstairs with me again. He laid with me for about an hour before I drifted off and I awoke 2 hours later and he wasn't with me or downstairs......he'd gone under my bed and was fast asleep. He woke up, came downstairs and I decided to try and sleep some more on the sofa. He slept next to me for a bit, then on a chair next to the sofa and then when I was about to get up to go and get the food, he cuddled right into me on the sofa and wouldn't let me go for 30 mins.
He's improved in so many ways, whether it's because of the tablets or the humidifier or something else. He just won't eat, those 2 chicken pieces aside.
Last night was worth giving him the chance alone. I'll earn the near £300 and any future costs back over time, but i'd never of had last night had he not been given the chance.
He's calm now, a bit slower, but calm. It's just the eating! Come on Moses!
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He sounds very much better than he was and hope that eating will come, try just giving him minute portions so its easier for him to make a decision to eat a little rather than be faced with too mich for him right now.
Come on Moses you can do it :hug: :hug:
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sounds like he is one the right track, in my house tuna works wonders but I know not all cats are the same
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He's tried a couple of times to eat and given up....he's struggling to get things in his mouth? 2 different sorts of cat treats (split into tiny mouthfuls) and some Oh So Fishy have tempted him, but...he tries and gives up.
Tried baby food, doesn't want it, same with the Primula. Tuna doesn't tempt him and he loves tuna, normal cat food doesn't tempt, fresh roast chicken didn't work.........running out of time.
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Have you tried mushing the food up into a paste (warm it through to heighten the smell) and try to get him to lick it off your fingers? It is a slow business but it's so important he doesn't get out of the habit of eating. This kept my Tom alive for a few weeks. He had anaemia which made him feel a bit sick so had a devil of a job getting him to eat :( :hug: :hug: :hug:
Also try and raise his food bowl so he doesn't have to lower his head.
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just seen this thread! Big hugs to you and Moses :hug: :hug:
I havent experienced any thing like this, but it seems that the strong smelling cat food is tempting, so perhaps something in gravy so he can lick it off, rather than deal with chunks. Also perhaps ask the vet on whether he has (coupled with breathing & heart) any air way trouble (blocked nose) this type of thing can cause cats to breathe heavily through the mouth and lose appetite as to eat they rely heavily on their sense of smell.
One of my boys (sadly gone now - but not due to that) had an horrendeous cold/infection and could hardly breathe - to the point that he resembled darth vader!
I dont know, but just clutching at ideas to see if anything works.
Good luck and come on Moses :Luv: :Luv:
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Thanks for the suggestions Rosella and funkie chicken.
I thought i had some mince, but only have tinned and that has onion :( Can't find any Beef in gravy either and Tesco is shut until midnight :(
Just gave him a small amount of Sheba Turkey in creamy sauce and he licked the sauce for 30 secs! Will that help in any way at all?
What about human gravy? Is it too salty?
I'm not sure he'd lick off my fingers as I use my fingers to rub the marmite and tablet into his mouth. I could try...i'm trying to get him to eat different things regularly. I'll look at raising his food bowl too although I put the bowl under his nose wherever he is sitting - sofa, chair, wherever.
I'll ask the vet about his nose tomorrow and maybe some nutrigel or nutrical? My Dopey had some of that - she didn't eat it, but it's worth a try?
Willing to try anything possible. It's affecting my Minty too as she barely comes downstairs at the moment - they aren't close, they don't get on, but I want to give her affection too.
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have you tried the hills A/d from the vets?
http://www.medicanimal.com/product/~hills-prescription-diet-canine-feline-ad-24x156g/~product_id=463?gclid=CMew6s6nxLACFQwjfAodQhUKYg
its stinky and messy but just what cats like...you can even make it into a liquid if needed.
I had to give this to my cat mo and it was about the only thing she would eat besides hi life little cans of pate from wilkinsons.
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There's lots of info on this site, it was written for cats with CRF in mind but the majority applies to all cats who are off there food for whatever reason
http://www.felinecrf.org/persuading_cat_to_eat.htm
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I would guess the Sheba sauce will help him. Have you tried liquidising food so he can maybe lap it up? :hug: :hug:
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Gross time, sorry about this but worth a try as your wiling to try anything..
When my Beau was struggling to eat because of his mis-diagnosed broken tooth root, I kept him eating by chewing his food for him - NO! not cat food :sick: but roast chicken. This made the food moist and at body temperature, Beau hoovered up all I could mince for him, and it really did save his life.
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Thanks for all your suggestions, you are a wonderful bunch.
Is the hills just from the vets by prescription?
Thanks for the link to felinecrf.org - i'll read thorugh it.
I don't have a liquidiser but I have been trying to give as much really wet food as possible. Can I just add some gravy or is their anything else I can add to wetten?
What about things like evaporated milk? Is that a no no?
Blimey Sheila, that is gross. I might try all the other techniques forst, including zapping in microwave for 5 secs!
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Not sure about gravy. You can add a bit of water to food. Or you could try giving him cat milk to lap.
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He had some whiskas milk Friday night, but none yesterday or today - it has been offered.
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RE hills A/D you can buy it online but i used to get in from my vet..i think its about £2 a tin? I didnt need a prescription i just used to pop in for a few cans when needed.
Its the stuff they use for poorly cats etc and is made to tempt appetite and has all good stuff in for them.
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RE hills A/D you can buy it online but i used to get in from my vet..i think its about £2 a tin? I didnt need a prescription i just used to pop in for a few cans when needed.
Its the stuff they use for poorly cats etc and is made to tempt appetite and has all good stuff in for them.
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I'll ask the vet tomorrow then. Your link worked out about £1.50 a tin.
Is it much more smellier than your usual cat food?
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I meant to mention AD earlier :doh:
Is it much more smellier than your usual cat food?
I wouldn't say it's that smelly but it is very nutritious so a cat can survive on far less of it that normal cat food. Cats do seem to love it in general. It's like a paste and you can add a touch of warm water to make it runny if that helps Moses. The VNs at our practice (same as Kittensmittens :) ) use a disposable glove to cover an opened tin to keep it fresh. I used to always keep a couple in the cupboard just in case.
I've not come across Sheila's suggestion before but sounds an excellent idea.
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I meant to mention AD earlier :doh:
Is it much more smellier than your usual cat food?
I wouldn't say it's that smelly but it is very nutritious so a cat can survive on far less of it that normal cat food. Cats do seem to love it in general. It's like a paste and you can add a touch of warm water to make it runny if that helps Moses. The VNs at our practice (same as Kittensmittens :) ) use a disposable glove to cover an opened tin to keep it fresh. I used to always keep a couple in the cupboard just in case.
I've not come across Sheila's suggestion before but sounds an excellent idea.
Well, hopefully the vets will have some, if he survives the night. I'm not sure how long he can last without a proper feed >:(
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Also , have you tried Lectade ? You can get sachets from the vet or vet uk on
One .
You mix AAnd B together and give it by syringe . It stops them being dehydrated and is a supplement .
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Also , have you tried Lectade ? You can get sachets from the vet or vet uk on
One .
You mix AAnd B together and give it by syringe . It stops them being dehydrated and is a supplement .
:hug: :hug:
Will need to be the vets as online shopping is going to be too late.
I need to get a syringe from the vets and some kind of wet food, like this Lectade.
Thanks for the info, another thing to write down and look into.
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Well my flatmate has given up on him and says we shouldn't try and get him to eat.
Devastated.
I'm not going to give up.
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sorry hun got caught up in kids and household stuff :hug:
yes its as Rosella said, its not totally stinky but it appeals to cats. the hi life cat pate in a tin is a similar mush but about 90 per cent water or soething ridiculous...i did find mo would eat that too sucessfully( Mo was ill with Pkd so had to fatten her up but that was difficult as she had mouth absesses so couldnt eat )
I think if hes refusing to eat then it may be time for him to go back to vets to be monitored and drip fed if needed.
Im not an expert in what hes going through..sorry...so can only hope he gets better, it must be awfull for you right now :hug:
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I'm due to call the vet in the morning, so will discuss with him all the options and see if we can get some kind of wet food.
Thanks for your support (and everybody else). It looks like the person I live with has decided to give up...and I can't.
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shes probably just upset at watching you try to feed him and hes knocking back all attempts.
my daughter has totally bizarre behaviour if her birds get ill...i try to help...im doing it wrong etc.... her idea of help is to run around in tears, mine is to try to do something practical. Im sure its not from lack of love...its probs lack of sleep too :hug:
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I'm due to call the vet in the morning, so will discuss with him all the options and see if we can get some kind of wet food.
Thanks for your support (and everybody else). It looks like the person I live with has decided to give up...and I can't.
Good for you! Stay positive and good luck with the vet tomorrow. :hug:
Sending vibes and good luck for Moses too. :hug:
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I am so sorry that he wont eat and after a few days the body starts to shut down and the liver gets damaged. This is what happened with Napoleon and he went into renal failure.
I could see in his eyes he had had enough, it was so devasting but had to let his wish prevail.
This is such a hard thing but it sounds to me that Moses has had enough and this is his way of telling you.
I hope I am wrong and send loads of good vibes to Moses :hug: :hug: :hug:
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I'll reply properly later...
Vet is calling me at 11.
Went down this morning and got some hills a/d - he's not Interested.
Got some syringes too. What sort of consistency do I need if add water?
Silly question, but I'm tired and stressed.
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hi hun :hug:
just make it into a thin liquid if you are trying to get it down him with a syringe (maybe with warm water cooled from kettle)....I havent done this with a cat though so hopefully someone with experience can advise better.
Hope the vet has had some good news :hug:
thinking of you both....and sending out my prayers to little man xx
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yes sort of thick soup - hope the call at 11 was useful
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Thanks again for your replies.
Bought the a/d and syringes from vet nurse thismorning, vet forgets to call, so ring him.
He thinks Moses not eating won't be a cause for concern until tomorrow or Wednesday and doesn't think syringing is needed.
I've been back to vets who have given me a Mirtazapine tablet to be broken into quarters or eigths and given once every3 days....an appetite stimulant.
Been told to try some really smelly foods. I'm trying!
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you must be shattered :(
If i was you Id get moses and take him to bed and both have a long nap :hug:
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I am tired and not eating much - it's affected my appetite too!
I took him to bed after his last pill, he didn't stay long and eventually had to carry him downstairs.
He's also had some Mirtrazapine - how long does it take to kick in usually?
I am reading all the replies, apologies if it appears i'm not answering everything directly, I hope you understand.
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I dont have any clue about that medication sorry :(
you must look after yourself too, even if its just to grab a bowl of soup or cereal :hug:
Id try to rest whilst he is and set your alarm to try again in an hour maybe. xx
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It's ok, I just hope it helps.
He doesn't rest for long. I slept on and off for a few hours earlier whilst flatmate watched him. I'm awake, I just need food, which I will do shortly.
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He just had one small mouthful of Plaice that I cooked, but that was it :(
EDIT: Two pieces.
Come on boy!
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Come on Moses, start eating again. :hug:
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4 more pieces!
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thats fabulous news :wow:
sounds like those meds really work!
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that is good, sounds like its working
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Great news! That plaice must be tasty. :)
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Go Moses go, you are doing so good :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Nothing more yet, but he's a little more relaxed.
Even if this is a false dawn, he's not going quietly.
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I think he will eat slowly at first and gradually build up his intake. Sounds like he's doing well to me. Come on Moses boy! :hug:
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Yes his tummy will be very small at present cos he hasnt eaten for a while , so very small and often meals :hug: :hug:
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I'll keep trying.
Can you re-heat fish? It was frozen plaice in breadcrumbs, but obviously only gave him the fish - nice and warm.
He's calm, so going to sit with him - he likes to watch footie with me :)
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It may go a bit hard but worth trying
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I'll try it later.
Just had a few small mouthfuls of tuna! Just as England scored in the footie :rofl: Celebratory tuna.
Tried eating a treat but too chewy for him.
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Hope he didnt upchuck it when France scored >:(
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No :)
But not had anything since.
The Hills a/d is a big thumbs down I think.
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Sad about ad but it will keep in the fridge for a couple of days once opened.
I think after eating nothing 4 pieces of fish and some tuna is a lot ;D
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Still nothing else...
Refusing it all.
False dawn I think :( Can't see how the vet thinks it's not yet critical.
Noticed you've posted since I started typing, Gill.
You think 4 little pieces of plaice and a few mouthfuls of Tuna is going to help? It's alot compared to what he did eat, but in the grand scheme of things.....my heart is sinking.
EDIT: It was 6 pieces of plaice - 2 then 4 more. Still - not enough.
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For a first meal for a few days it is a lot and his tummy will take ages to digest.
Keep on hoping and hope Moses will eat again in a few hours.
I agree with you rather than the vet, especially knowing what happened to Napoleon and he was an in patient and they kept telling me he was eating and he wasnt :(
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For a first meal for a few days it is a lot and his tummy will take ages to digest.
Keep on hoping and hope Moses will eat again in a few hours.
I agree with you rather than the vet, especially knowing what happened to Napoleon and he was an in patient and they kept telling me he was eating and he wasnt :(
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Ok, i'm just concerned it may not be enough. I will keep trying of course.
I always worry that vets would lie. They told me my Dopey was better off being pts and she lasted another 13 months, albeit the last 2 moths blind.
The vet also seemed put on the phone when I told him Moses wasn't eating, saying "I didn't think him not eating was the biggest problem when I saw him" It wasn't, but it is now!
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Have you tried heating the AD in the microwave for about 10 seconds when its warm its more appealing, cat milk is another good way to get calories in them, also heating the tuna and fish again for 10 seconds in the microwave seems to make it more appealing
We are sending all our best vibes at the Clan for you both :hug: :hug:
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you could also smear the AD on to his paws, he will lick it off, even if he doesnt want to, cats are very fussy about their fur :evillaugh:
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Have you tried heating the AD in the microwave for about 10 seconds when its warm its more appealing, cat milk is another good way to get calories in them, also heating the tuna and fish again for 10 seconds in the microwave seems to make it more appealing
We are sending all our best vibes at the Clan for you both :hug: :hug:
I haven't yet. I will do though. I just cooked a Turkey Breast roast and offered him some pieces, but no interest :(
Put out cat milk, but no interest.
I keep trying different things, often heating, but nope :(
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you could also smear the AD on to his paws, he will lick it off, even if he doesnt want to, cats are very fussy about their fur :evillaugh:
I could try that, but I did it with something else and he just left it there :-:
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Heating a/d hasn't worked. He gets offended and walks away.
He is spending alot of time with me and settles easier when next to me. He follows me around alot, so he wants me to be with him.
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it may be worth buying some fish and cutting it into smaller peices, then just defrost and cook a bit at a time. tescos basics white fish frozen is ok and ive never had bones in it
poor boy but some is better than none so you never know..tommorrow may bring a better day :hug:
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it may be worth buying some fish and cutting it into smaller peices, then just defrost and cook a bit at a time. tescos basics white fish frozen is ok and ive never had bones in it
poor boy but some is better than none so you never know..tommorrow may bring a better day :hug:
I'll look into that tomorrow. What kind of minced beef can I purchase? It seems most tins have onion in. I'd like a wet slimy minced beef to try.
Will keep trying.
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Day of reckoning, vets at 3.10.
Could be goodbye.
Vet wants to have a look at him to see why he's not eating.
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good luck
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Thanks Dawn :hug:
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Sending loads of good wishes :hug: :hug: :hug:
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If it is goodbye, you can be sure you have done everything you can for him. Will be thinking of you. :hug:
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Thanks :hug:
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Good luck and best vibes. xx :hug: :hug:
And remember, you know your cat better than anyone. :)
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He spent most of the night with me, keeping me penned in. He has his upbeat moments.
Whatever is right, it will be done.
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Sounds like he is a fighter, bless him. :)
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good luck at the vets :hug:
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Thanks everyone, i'll start a new post.