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Cat Rescue & Rehoming => Cat/s Needing Homes => Sorted/ Unknown outcomes => Topic started by: Mareta on July 07, 2010, 12:18:23 PM
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Hello all!
We are looking for a new home and loving family for a little lovely boy.
He is disabled cat, but it doesn’t hurt him at all. He likes playing with toys, he can walk without assistance, he really loves people and he is so affectionate child!
He has an incoordination, but all the doctors says that he will handle it when grows up.
Sure, he will never be like other cats, but he doesn’t even know that he’s different.
Just look him into eyes – he looks like a very surprised child!
We cannot find a good home for him here, in Russia, but we still believe that somebody will love this boy.
This boy is just 7 month old, he doesn’t have any problems with toilet, he doesn’t need any special medical treatment, and he just needs a lot of love!
We are looking for a home, without outdoors keeping, because the boy needs to be cared about, and he can injury himself outdoors.
I can send video - to look him playing.
(http://s48.radikal.ru/i121/1007/63/762584b317bbt.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s48.radikal.ru/i121/1007/63/762584b317bb.jpg.html)
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(http://s13.radikal.ru/i186/1007/1b/2e66e9929586t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s13.radikal.ru/i186/1007/1b/2e66e9929586.jpg.html)
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Hi Mareta and welcome,
I notice that you're not from the UK, have you had problems trying to rehome your cat in your home country?
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Hi Janeyk,
yes, we've tried to find him home there, but it seems to be impossible. There are a lot of homeless cats here, most of them are healthy, and people don't want to have a disabled kitten.
He was picked up by the girl from Moscow, but she didn't like him and she returned him in 2 weeks.
Do you think it's impossible to find him a good home in the UK?
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:welcome:
Do you think it's impossible to find him a good home in UK?
I think the biggest hurdle is cost :(
Is he a CH cat?
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:thanks:
Sorry, what is CH cat? :shy:
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CH stands for Cerebellar Hypoplasia, i wondered if your vet had diagnosed him with anything
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Ah, understood. We don't use this abbreviation. :shy:
No, he is not. Our vet said that there is some kind of hypophysial insufficiency, but not the CH. I suppose our vets are not absolutely sure what is the disease of him.
I'm going to make a NMR-scanning to him.
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Can I post here the link to rutube (youtube analog in Russia)??
He's playing there :) Now he moves better.
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3383698.html?v=fe909c8410bdf6db644b3a1455c11ee5
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The other cat is so gentle and understanding with him :Luv2:
I don't know how he could be transferred to the UK but I would be willing to make a donation if an appeal is started.
He looks as if he is part Norwegian Forest Cat?
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I noticed that too, Mark. Was going to comment on his friend. :)
He is utterly adorable. :Luv:
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Not got much money but would also donate if there is an appeal to get him over here .
He is very :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:- and a brave little soul :hug: :hug:
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Yes, the first time I saw him he couldn't even rise up to his legs :( But he still tried - again and again. I thought then he is the most brave soul I have ever seen.
We don't know what is the breed of him - he was a homeless kitten, we found him at the street.
Yes, the other cat is always ready to help him :)) Especially - in playing.
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If he could be transferred to the UK, I would love to offer him a safe loving home with my other disabled cats. Would he have to go into 6 months(?) quarantine on arrival? Would he be able to withstand the long journey?
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Hopefully there is someone who will know the quarantine dates. I think it may have changed to 6 weeks now. It used to be 6 months. My partner had to keep Willow in quarantine in France for 6 months before she came to England.
Jo (Blackcat) took her 2 cats to Tazmania last year so hopefully she will be able to advise. I'm sure the rules vary depending on the country, but Russia to the UK shouldn't be too difficult.
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OMG! that other cat needs to stay with him...he is actually playingwith him...its sooo beautiful!.....If i dint have 4 cats already i would have him in a heartbeat....I would have him anyway! so if there is noone else but im sure there will be......I would take him! the footage of him playing is just incredible!
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Hopefully someone will know quarantine regulations and costs involved.
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Just looked at the defra website. It looks like he would need to do 6 months quaratine if he couldn't qualify for the Pets Travel Scheme (pet passport thingy). One of the requirements is a rabies vaccine...I'm not sure what the minimum age is for a rabies vaccine as it doesn't say on the site but I will see what I can google. There are of course other requirements but I think the rabies vaccine is the biggy. Goods news is that animals coming from Russia can qualify for the Pet Travel Scheme. I will do some more research.
Will he be up to travelling?
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Minimum age for rabies vaccinations looks to be 12/16 weeks but depends on the drug manufacturer. I think the Pet Travel Scheme would be best because then he wouldn't need to stay in quarantine for 6 months
The link to defra with the information on how to qualify is here:
www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/pets/
I think it also gives details of suitable shipping agents etc.
Mereka would it be possible for you to organise this your side if a home was found for him over here and the people on Purrs could possibly help by putting towards funding? I would definitely put in if we start something up.
Are you from a rescue organisation in russia or just a kind member of the public?
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Sorry Mareta just realised I got your name completely wrong (I'm getting tired now)
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I guess Mareta is sleeping as Russia is 3 hours ahead.
OH told me that there is no quarantine period but there is a time period between vaccinations and travel. I'm not sure what the rules are.
I found this website. It says the information is for transporting pets to and from Russia but most of the information seems to be for transporting to Russia.
My partner has a degree in Soviet Studies but not sure if that would be any help.
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Oh yes I wasn't expecting a reply tonight but wanted to start researching.
I think the defra site will have all information (can't really look at it all now as I'm on the Blackberry). There are also Companies that will help take you through the whole process.
Will do some more research but it should be possible.
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Sorry - forgot to put the link http://www.moscowanimals.org/advice/import.html
I'm sure it can be done. We just need plenty of people willing to help with the cost.
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I am sure the kind peeps on here will help - i would be willing and i am sure others will- there are a lot of Purrs members now , even if everyone donated a couple of pounds that would amount to a lot if there around 1000 or more members ;D
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As russia is listed under their qualifying countries the cat wouldn't have to stay in quaranteen for the 6 months, just have the tests 6 months prior to departure.
Penguin came over from the US and I only had to wait 6 months, he stayed with my mom.
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Thanks to all for your help! :thanks:
I will try to find out any informaton concerning all necessary vaccinations and time periods berween vaccinations and travelling.
I think we could issue the vet passport and chip for him here.
We also need to consult about travelling - I don't want him to travel in a baggage. :(
I will also try to consults vets about travelling by the plane - I actually don't know how could he withstand this journey.
He was good when travelling by car from Moscow. But all the way I kept him on my knees.
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Sabrina, thank you!
Don't you know which tests should we make?
I will also ask our vet too.
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Here's the information I've got from the russian site "Go to the UK" (it's in Russian, so I will try to translate it correctly):
Pet Travel Scheme (PETS) allows cats and dogs import to the UK from Russia without quarantine of 6 month in case if the following formalities were respected:
* Pet should be chiped for identification. Standard chip should satisfy the requirements of ISO 11784 or ISO 11785 (addendum A).
Chip should be tested out until and after the implantation.
* Pet should be vaccinated of rabies vaccine after the chiping procedure. All information about the rabies vaccination should be shown in the vet certificate: age of the pet, chip number, vaccination date, name of the vaccine's producer, lot number of the vaccine, next vaccination date.
* Pet should be treated against intestinal worms and all kind of parasites.
* Pet should pass the blood test for rabies antibodies in the EC certified Laboratory in 30 days after the vaccination.
* Pet could be imported to the UK only after 6 months after the successful results of the above mentioned blood test.
* Pet should be treated against mites and warms (Echinococcus multilocularis) by the praziquantel in 48 hours before the journey
* Pet could be imported to the UK only by the licensed carrier - British Airways World Cargo only in baggage and cargo space, separately of the owner.
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He is walking:
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3399475.html?v=75bcf7e4af8d41642ee06b5164836620
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:Luv2:
This video shows how cats can improve their coordination over time. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLlL24shW7E
So it seems that the timescale is 7 months between the rabies vaccination and travel. I wonder if he would be able to travel in the cabin somehow. I suppose it would mean escorted travel which would add to the cost.
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I wonder if he would be able to travel in the cabin somehow. I suppose it would mean escorted travel which would add to the cost.
I dont' think you could, I know with Penguin it was put to me that he HAD to travel in cargo. However the crate I had to buy for him was huge and I could have climbed into it.
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I wonder if BA would make an exception for a disabled cat? - anyone on here know anyone connected to them?
I think it is possible because on one of the links I read last night, it said to specify that you want the cat to travel accompanied. I suppose it is different if you are travelling as well. We need to find a cat-loving cabin crew person :)
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My friend is an FA for United...I will asl her if she knows about pets being allowed on board under special circumstances and will also see if she knows anyone with another airline that flies from russia to uk.
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These airlines allow cats to travel in the cabin with a passenger so there must be others http://www.catsunited.com/html/air_line_travel.html
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This is brilliant!! I love how everyone comes together!! If an appeal is set up I'll donate! Hope something can be sorted. ;D
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I think we should start vet consulting to be sure that we could make all neccesary medical procedures.
Anyway, there should be about 6-7 month between the last medical procedures and travelling.
He should be neutered also, but right now it's impossible - he is so skinny, about 2 kg weight. Doctor said that there is very important for him to have good measl and physical trainings - to build up his muscules.
Now it's dangerous to give him any anaesthetic.
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3401110.html?v=8d8eeb8ddc9e393a2169e5dd6bf0a48a
Amaizing purr sound in the last 4-5 seconds of the video :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
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What part of russia is he in as that appears to make a difference
http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-pets/pets/travel/pets/procedures/support-info/other.htm (http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-pets/pets/travel/pets/procedures/support-info/other.htm)
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What a lovely video of him and the lovely black and white cat washing his paw. Does he have a name?
I hope all goes well with his vet visit and that something can be sorted out for him.
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The black & white cat obviously loves him :Luv2:. Would they be able to stay together or is the other cat yours?
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Millys Mum, we are in Saint-Petersburg, it's the 78th region, so it is possible for us to use the Scheme.
Black&White cat couldn't stay with him, unfortunately.
Dobrynia (disabled cat) lives now with my friend. The black&white is her cat. His name is Venia
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I posted a reply on Pet forum but have now seen your post here so --
I have a disabled cat called Boris he is now 2 years old -he was born like this probably due to oxygen deficiency with a difficult birthing.
Since your boy is quite small he may have this problem due to his mother being infected with Feline infectious Enteritis .
He has a form of Cerebral Palsy so yes he is a type of CH kitty but if you look at the videos of him you will seehow alike they are.
Boris came to me from a rescue at 12 weeks old and lives with my other cats who all have differing disabilities. I no longer work but I am a qualified Animal Nursing Assistant so I am at home most of the time
Boris is unable to use a litter tray -he lays on his side and uses puppy pads. One of my other older rescue cats Mushy loves him in the same way the other cat loves your lad.
At 2kg he should be fine for castration but I don't know which anaesthesia method or type is used by your vets.
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I don't think BA will allow him to be in the cabin -a few years ago I flew a cat back with me from Newcastle to Heathrow and she was in the hold but they were very good about it -with his problems it will be more important for him to be well supported physically as he will get distressed if he is wobbled about too much -so lots of blankets to stabilize him. The hold is dark and cold but once flying hopefully smooth in a way more smooth than a car.
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This is a really hear warming thread :Luv:
I will gladly donate money if that is what is required to help this lovely little fella :Luv:
cj
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I don't mean to be a damp squib, but is it really fair to put this little cat through having rabies jabs and other such medication and then the stress of the long distance travel and quarantine? I feel sure, with the right search and promotion, that a good loving forever home could be found for him in Russia. There are thousands of cat lovers in Russia that could offer him the loving care he needs without putting him through all that added stress. Maybe the money people are offering to collect for his transportation could be used to start up an ad campaign in Russia to find him his perfect home.
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I don't mean to be a damp squib, but is it really fair to put this little cat through having rabies jabs and other such medication and then the stress of the long distance travel and quarantine? I feel sure, with the right search and promotion, that a good loving forever home could be found for him in Russia. There are thousands of cat lovers in Russia that could offer him the loving care he needs without putting him through all that added stress. Maybe the money people are offering to collect for his transportation could be used to start up an ad campaign in Russia to find him his perfect home.
Apart from he would need a home to go to! There would be no quarantine as he would be on a pet Passport.
However Mikey still needs a home and he is in UK! Homes for disabled cats are very hard to fiind in any country.
What I dont understand is that the cat in Russia is in a home and very happy by the look of it, so why does he need to leave it? His friend the black and white cat looks like he loves him to bits.
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Ok so no quarantine, but even so the stress of all the other stuff is just so much to put on one small cat, and as you say Gill Mikey still doesn't have a forever home and he is already here in this country.
I still feel that the money it would take to do this would be better spent on finding Dobrynia a loving forever home in Russia, closer to where he already is now and save him the stress of going through a very long process of relocation to the UK.
How is Mikey doing? Did he ever take to being a wheeled kitty?
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If he could be transferred to the UK, I would love to offer him a safe loving home with my other disabled cats.
This is what makes the difference.
It sounds as if Mareta's friend is fostering him temporarily. I agree it isn't ideal for him to travel all this way but Mareta said it is difficult to find homes for disabled cats in Russia.
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I am also offering him a home here with my cats -I have the knowledge and experience and I am at home not at work.
I am also a qualified Animal nursing Assistant and have a great vets .
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In that case, maybe one of you could adopt Dobrynia and the other, Mikey :evillaugh:
Although I am not sure if Heather will really be able to part with Mikey.
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I've not been on here for a while so not aware of Mikey's situation or needs -link to his post ?
I saw about Mareka's boy on another forum.
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Here is the link to one of Mikeys threads
http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php/topic,31758.0.html
and on there you will find a link ti Mikeys Wheelchair Fund and on one of the threads should be a link to all of his story on Cat Chat, if not let me knopw and will get it for you ;D
I havent heard any updates on Mikey recently and will have to ask for one.
I would appreciate if any Mikey posts could be on his threads and not on here cos we should keep the two seperate, :thanks:
Just want to add that is someone is offering a home to the Russian cat , there are many hurdles to climb and would be grateful if you would pm me please ;D
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thankyou -have pm'd you
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This is a very difficult one.
Although i have offered this little cat a home, i do in some ways agree with Skully.
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thing is though since none of us are living in Russia it's hard to know how full rescues there are or how they operate -there must be a very good reason why he cannot stay where he is -I totally agree it seems a shame as both cats are so happy together and since it would be the simplest solution I would assume it can't happen longterm
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Sorry, I was out of the city, just returned,
yes, I understand that it seems to be strange to find him home abroad. But I really have no idea what to do else.
Nobody wants him here. He was taken once, but returned back without any explanations. The girld who took him to Moscow called ma and asked me to take him back. It was a stress for Dobrynia. Sure, I don't want him to travel again - but there is no other way to find him a loving family.
Really I've tried a lot of times - we send posts to local newspapers, on forums etc. Some people called me and said that he should be euthanasied.
He lives now in the house of my friend, but she leaves in September. She cannot take Dobrynia.
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Has anyone actually picked up the phone and asked Defra if this cat would be granted a passport when he has this health problem? I thought passports are only granted to healthy pets? :shify: Do we know that cats with this problem have successfully tolerated the Rabies vacine? As far as I can tell from the posts we don't even a definitive diagnosis... what if this is a neurological problem? Flying and associated cabin pressure could actually be v. bad for him. :scared:
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My opinion is that Mareta is obviously doing the best she can for Dobrynia. I am sure she would prefer a simpler solution than arranging international travel for him. I think all we can do is try to help. Who knows what may happen to him if people here start playing god. A cat in need is cat regardless of where it is. Time is running short. If an appeal can't be started on purrs, then we have to find another forum that will help or set up a 'just giving' page. Any ideas anyone?
Edit - posted without reading PBs post.
I agree a vet will need to decide if Dobrynia is fit to travel. As far as I can tell, he doesn't have any transmittable diseases which I am sure is what DEFRA mean when they say 'heallthy'
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Has anyone actually picked up the phone and asked Defra if this cat would be granted a passport when he has this health problem? I thought passports are only granted to healthy pets? :shify: Do we know that cats with this problem have successfully tolerated the Rabies vacine? As far as I can tell from the posts we don't even a definitive diagnosis... what if this is a neurological problem? Flying and associated cabin pressure could actually be v. bad for him. :scared:
These are all questions that would need to be asked of a vet but it is pretty obviously a neurological problem he is typical of a CH cat -all brain damage is neurological but as long s he is well supported physically he should be fine -the dangers to CH cats are from Anaesthesia and physically damage from falling etc
Flight time is 3 hours -this from BA Cargo site
Unaccompanied Pets
British Airways World Cargo highly recommends the professional and very experienced services of a Pet Travel Agent if you are considering transporting your pet overseas. Not only can they take care of bookings, documentation, veterinary requirements and travel containers, they can also arrange for your pet to be collected from your home and delivered at the destination as well.
Please note that British Airways World Cargo at London Heathrow and London Gatwick no longer has the facilities to deal with members of the public or non-account holders. All requests to ship live animals must come via a Pet Travel Agent who can make all the booking arrangements directly with British Airways World Cargo on your behalf.
Whilst British Airways World Cargo does not recommend a specific Pet Travel Agent you may wish to contact either your local Pet Travel Agent or one of the following who can make all the booking arrangements directly with British Airways World Cargo on your behalf.
Airpets Heathrow +44 (0) 1753 685571 www.airpets.com
Petair UK +44 (0) 1725 551124 www.petairuk.com
Par Air +44 (0) 1206 330332 www.parair.co.uk
Pinehawk Livestock Shippers +44 (0) 1223 290249
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An alternative option would be road travel but would take some days and probably even more stressful.
Or even train -
Mareta -a lot of ignorant people think these cats have no quality of life and 9 times out of 10 they are wrong -there are some for whom life would just be exsisting and then it's the kindest option to end it but most live normally if a bit wobbly lives as long as they are correctly cared for.
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:thanks:
We will try to consult the best vet neurologist in our city to obtain the full description of his disease.
I need to know his diagnosis.
I was shocked by people's responses. He doesn't feel any hurt. I've seen him today - he plays toys, he tries to seat (!), he tried to rub against my legs :)
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He is not as disabled by his problems as Boris and he is a very happy boy who loves life -I'm sure your boy is just as happy he seems very content.
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I was shocked by people's responses. He doesn't feel any hurt. I've seen him today - he plays toys, he tries to seat (!), he tried to rub against my legs :)
Mareta i dont think anybody doubts his ability to live a good life :hug: the concern is with his ability to cope with all the neccessary procedures. Hopefully the vet can confirm if it would be safe for him to start with the rabies vaccination
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Oh, by the way - Dobrynia- is the name of old Russian epical hero.
We believe this name will help him to be healthy and strong :Luv2:
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just been live chatting on CH Kitty club site
this might help once vet says what he thinks -this may help----
" : hi can someone answer a query to help a CH kitty get transport from Russia to UK -is it safe for a ch kitty to be rabies vaccinated ?
lizziebarrett: ch kitties have no problem with rabies vaccs
: thanks do youthink air travel would cause problems
tan: no idea about Russia, but that can be checked with the carier
lizziebarrett: i know other ch owners have transported by air "
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We consulted our vet 2.5 weeks ago - when I've bought Dobrynia from Moscow.
Vet said that cat is too weak and too skiny to make any vaccination.
But I've seen him today - he looks better, my friend tries to feed him well.
As I understood, Dobrynia could be imported only in 6 month after the succesfull medical tests - so I really hope that in next 6 month he will feel better. And he would be transported by air without any problems.
Is it possible to transoprt him unaccopmanied? Or should I make the UK visa to bring him?
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he needs the vaccine and then the test to make sure the vaccine has been successful 6 months later before he can be given his travel passport
most airlines will only transport him in the cargo hold and really you need a travel company like those I copied from British Airways site to do the arrangements -if you got a visa he would still be in cargo hold .
if you want to make a journey with him then maybe by train but takes about 3 days I think and still needs petpassport and not sure about barrier checks etc.
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Well, understood. I have no UK visa, but I can try to obtain it if nessesary. I've obtained few visas for my collegues at work - there are a lot of requirements :((
Anyway, at first we should be sure that Dobrynia will stand all med treatments well.
I will try to clarify it as soon as possible.
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if you click on this link you can see some videos of other cats like Dobrynia also information on similar problems-the live chat page is great too -it is an American site but really good.
http://www.chkittyclub.com/
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It's a very hot weather there almost for 2 weeks. Our cats sleep all the time.
Here some more pictures of Dobrynia - noe he trying to seat. It's a real progress for him!
(http://s43.radikal.ru/i099/1007/76/d66de81a030bt.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s43.radikal.ru/i099/1007/76/d66de81a030b.jpg.html)
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I like this video of Dobrynia playing :)) It's too hot for them - they don't want to jump, or to run... Thae just want to have a lie-down :)
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3418040.html?v=4dfe2e754aa12fc4af59264e381f60b7
But now it seems to be a little more run for both :)
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3418040.html?v=4dfe2e754aa12fc4af59264e381f60b7
"No, it's tooooo hot, really... We are very tired..."
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3418045.html?v=9fb433893c7037cf9ee09e7e817feecb
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Those two cats are so wonderful together and that black and white is so gentle :Luv2:
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Lovely videos :Luv2:
I find the older cats are very tolerant with Boris too -although I had a rescue boy who was about 5 when he came and he was brain damaged but a large cat and it did take time for the other cats to accept him as he behaved like a kitten but was rather large. :)
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Through the link here to CH cat on YouTube, I went to this other video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGl5693Yqpw&NR=1
If you scroll down, you'll find this comment:
mickeee7399 2 days ago
sofuggit, I am a breeder of Siamese kittens. I did not understand what was going on with my recent litter, and did tons of research and found out he had CH. My baby is almost 12 weeks old, and I am looking for the right person to love him. I knew he was special, and something about this kitten did not allow me to PTS. He is not unhappy. I work 10 hour days and as much as I want to keep him, I cannot give him the care he deserves. I have trained him to use the toilet after he eats.
mickeee7399
2 days ago If you are interested, please contact me at shelleee7399@aol.com
So, if anyone else is considering taking in a disabled kitty, you might want to contact this person.
Dobrynia is a poppet, and I really hope he is able to come to the home he deserves.
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When will people realise that these CH cats are little lives that feel love, hunger, pain and need encouragement rather than to be filmed rolling round like some spectacle and the pts when the problems begin.
I am all for promoting what can be achieved with disabled cats and as many know CH is something that has been and is still very close to my heart; however some of these you tube pieces of trash leave me so angry as it is obvious that these poor cats will never be allowed to reach their full potential because owners see them as entertainment.
They are all very valuable little lives.
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Hey T
Not sure if you have seen the whole thread or just the you tube stuff but Mareta is in Russia and have tried to find a suitable home for him over there but to no avail (she came across a lot of people telling her to pts)
She has contacted Purrs and some other UK forums to see if anyone here would be able to give Dobrinya a special home here.
We are trying to help her.
Her videos were just to show us how well he is doing :)
No one is being mean xx
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Just to clarify my post does not imply that any poster on Purrs is being mean.
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Sorry T, I just didn't want you to think that anyone was putting the videos up for others to just gawk at x
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Sorry T, I just didn't want you to think that anyone was putting the videos up for others to just gawk at x
Its ok Steff :hug: I get so upset after all that Minimopsical achieved in trying to educate people, these cats have so very much more to offer and so much meaning to their lives, yes lives not existence; Minimopsical worked and loved it. I hope we will be able to give Twinkle our latest CH kitten the quality of life that Minimopsical had.
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I understand T. Hopefully you might be able to give Mareta some advice on caring for Dobrynia whilst she still has him in Russia and may also be able to advise on his ability to make the journey over to the UK. A special home in the UK and pet passport and transport advice is what we are all trying to sort out on this thread. Dobrynia is currently living with Maretas friend and the black and white cat which really loves him but he cannot stay with her. Just hoping that eventually he will be able to get a new special home in the UK. I'm sure Mareta would appreciate any advice you had for her regarding CH kitties (vaccinating, neutering, transport, general care etc)
I love Minimopsical...it was because of her that I even knew about CH kitties xxx
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I don't use You tube but i do post videos of Boris on forums but only really to show off my special boy as an example of the quality of life these cats can achieve and to let others know that there is a life to be lived.
Just have to say though concerning the breeder with the Siamese CH kitty in my opinion you should not be breeding if you work 10 hours a day and if you do breed any kitten with a disability you should be able to keep it for it's lifetime that's a breeder's responsibilty and OK if you find the perfect home then great but that kitten was purposely bred and very sadly has a disability so before you breed you need to be aware that you may end up keeping some kittens you never planned to.
As for Dobrynia he was a street kitten as so many with CH are.
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Hello all,
we have visited our vet yesterday.
Predictions are very conservative. He still has dystrophy and some problems with bowels (colitis). It's very difficult for him to flesh up.
CH is still in doubt.
Clinical blood analysis is normal. He has no intestinal parasites.
Biochemical blood analysis will be ready today.
The main problem is that Dobrynia behaved terribly in the transport cage. He was like in hysterics :(( He began to hit against the cage and he couldn't stand up. And he cried all the time we tried to keep him inside.
I had to let him out of the cage and drive with this little monsters sitting on my knees. He really was in panic and he couldn't recover for a long time. When I've brought him to the clinic he even couldn't stand on his paws even for a minute. :(
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sorry to hear he was so distressed -I find this happens with cats with these problems -my ifrst cat used to roll in the basket -it is the movement -all you can do is pad the basket out well so the cat is very well supported -the more distressed they become the more they lose the control of their movement.
good news he has no parasites -the colitis may be due to the heat -does your vet have any treatment for his tummy like ProKaolin paste -are you able to buy some live Bio Culture yogurt for him this may help settle the tummy .
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Yes, there was a pad in the cage, but it didn't help. Yes, I've seen it too: Dobrynia can't control his body when he is distressed.
We don't have ProKaolin paste here :(
Vet recommended Synulox RTU, veterinary diet Hill's I/D (or RC Intestinal) and probiotics.
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Synulox is antibiotiic and is likely to make his tummy worse but will be to kill off any bacterial infection -live yogurt is good -personally i prefer Royal Canin products to Hill's.
I find Boris can have upset tummy if I vary his food so he has same all the time and it works well.
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How is he now ?-hope his tummy is better now.
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Can you get lacto B powder there cos after the synalux is finished that would help harden him up, its a probiotic and mixes easily with wet food and even my fussiest boy couldnt taste it.
Does not sound that Dobyrinia will be able to travel on a plane and he needs a new home somewhere close by the sounds of it, so sad he cant stay with your friend and her cat. :hug: :hug:
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The most important factors for travelling will be making sure his heart is normal and providing him with the right accomodation as in padding out the carrier well to support him (hopefully his tummy was due to hot weather or a bug and won't return to be a problem ) Sedation is not an option that would be dangerous.
I took my boy for his boosters and was talking to my vet about this and his opinion is that with any form of brain damage and neuralogical issues there should not be any long term damage to him (realising that he only has the facts as I know them )but I agree it is sad he can't stay with the other cat and I'm sure Mareta wishes he could too but you need only to investigate animal welfare in Russia to come to the conclusion it will be very hard to home him there
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Yes, our vet said that any kind of sedation would be dangerous.
Now we have some problems with his eyes - vet said that there is a conjuctivitis. And he still have rachitis and avitaminosis.
Vet said that we should make him cure before vaccination.
We will also make cardio evaluation this week.
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Hello all
I found a girl on our russian cat's forum. She lives in the UK, so I hope she will help us in some questions.
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Sending lots of cuddles to Dobryiana and hope the health in general improves soon :hug:
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Any update please?
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I don't suppose Mareta will mind me posting this -I stayed in contact with her until recently when she suffered a loss in he family -I believe Dobrynia is going to stay with her friend for as long as possible
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Ok thanks for the update then. I'll move this to sorted and if things change at any time do pm me please :thanks: