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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #183 on: November 23, 2010, 14:09:20 PM »
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #182 on: November 23, 2010, 13:11:42 PM »
That is fantastic - must have something in my eye, they are all watery - LOL

Way to go Rolo xxx what a huge relief that you didnt take the vets word and give up on him xxx
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #181 on: November 23, 2010, 12:12:31 PM »
Wonderful news.

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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #180 on: November 23, 2010, 09:37:08 AM »
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #179 on: November 22, 2010, 22:27:26 PM »
Fantastic  :) Go Rolo!  :Luv2:


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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #178 on: November 22, 2010, 22:21:01 PM »
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #177 on: November 16, 2010, 21:39:31 PM »
He is on RC fit 32 and whiskers used to be on iams dry but he is doing it with any food only started doing it about 2 weeks ago bless X
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #176 on: November 16, 2010, 21:23:27 PM »
So pleased he seems to be on the road to recovery, no-one likes a smart ass but in this case proving the vets wrong would be fantastic!  :)

Riley often does the digging thing too, more often when he doesn't like the food on offer (he's been on RC sensitive at the mo rather than normal food). Is Rolo on a special food that isn't quite as yummy as his normal stuff?

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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #175 on: November 16, 2010, 13:47:05 PM »
Lol little sweethearts! mine eat on the table too lol!
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #174 on: November 16, 2010, 12:22:54 PM »
fab news!!  my oscar does the digging thing and star will actually use a table cloth to cover her plate (yes oh spoils her, she has breakfast at the table lol!)

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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #173 on: November 15, 2010, 23:00:29 PM »
Lol! I didn't read it like that when I posted it lol...the cats of course *shy* lol
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #172 on: November 15, 2010, 22:57:39 PM »
I thought it was something like that...but didn't want to make them sound like squirrels lol! Its so cute when the little ones do it, I used to see them do it in the wild before I trapped them :)

Trapped the squirrels or cats! lol OJ usually only seen in ferals lol or Pedigree Ragdolls! :rofl:
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #171 on: November 15, 2010, 22:50:47 PM »
I thought it was something like that...but didn't want to make them sound like squirrels lol! Its so cute when the little ones do it, I used to see them do it in the wild before I trapped them :)
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #170 on: November 15, 2010, 22:41:57 PM »
I know so fantastic i just cant belive it!! he is doing so well! god love him I just googled the digging thing its an instinct thing he is trying to bury his food to save it for later! lol how cute!  :wow:
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #169 on: November 15, 2010, 22:30:16 PM »
What wonderful news - I am so pleased for you and Rolo xxx
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #168 on: November 15, 2010, 22:25:00 PM »
Wow!!! That is amazing!!!!! I am so happy for you all. I hope he continues to totally get better :)

My rescue kittens both dig around their food before and after eating. I'm sure I read something about it being related to them being in the wild but I can't remember exactly what though.
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #167 on: November 15, 2010, 21:52:25 PM »
Update

Hi purrs

Rolo is doing amazing!  ;D Still waiting on his bloods. he now has pretty much no symptoms and seems to be a very well cat has gained more weight lymph nodes down and neurological symptoms almost non existant only unable to use claws in front right other than that normal still digging after or before eating?? vet has no idea on that so if anyone has any ideas that would be good

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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #166 on: November 10, 2010, 09:25:25 AM »
Hi

 thanks for your link very helpful he is still doing very well today just waiting on his results hopefully there will be huge improvment there too

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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #165 on: November 10, 2010, 01:47:23 AM »
Thats a very good link Julie and will add it to our links.

Lets hope theses two items improve and also Rolo continues to improve  :hug: :hug:

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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #164 on: November 10, 2010, 00:59:52 AM »
I did a bit of Googling.... TP= Total Protein. I also notice Globulin is high. (Another protein). From what I've read, these two readings are quite significant. I can see why a vet would diagnose FIP.  :scared:

I discovered this link and it may be quite informative for you.

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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #163 on: November 09, 2010, 19:29:59 PM »
I dont know anything about blood readings but they look well within ranges except fot TP............dont know what that is though.

I would hasve thought that as he is putting on weight and as long there is no build up of fluid causing that, he is doing really well.

If he is improving steadily and gradually it doesnt sounf like FIP but of course I am not a vet.

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« Reply #162 on: November 09, 2010, 19:01:23 PM »
Thanks everyone x
Rolo still doing very well his weight is now 4.4 it was 3.83 so great news his walking is still very good more bloods taken today im still not convinced its FIP i will post his bloods is anyone knows anything about FIP

UREA 9.6 (5-7-12.9)
CREA 128 (71-212)
PHOS 2.29 (1-2.42)
CA 2.53 (1.95 -2.83)
TP 104 (57-89)
ALB 28 (22-40)
GLOB 76 (28-51)
ALT 10 (12-130)
ALKP 32 (14-111)
TBIL 4 (0-15)
CHOL 2.66 (1.68-5.81)
AMYL 846 (500-1500)
GLU 9.96 (4.11-8.83)

NA 163 (150 -165)
k 3.9 (3.5-5.8)
CL 117 (112-129)

RBC 6.8 (5-10)
HCT 34.8% (30-45)
HGV 9.9 (9-15.1)
MCV 50.9 (41-58)
MCH 14.41 (12-20)
MCHC 28.3 (29-37.5)
RDW 18.2 (17.3-22)   
WBC 10.42 (5.50-19.50)
NEU 17.17 (2.5-12.50)
LYM 1.96 (0.40 -6.80)
MONO 0.66 ( 0.15-1.70)
EOS 0.57 (0.10-0.79
BASO 0.06 (0.00-0.10)
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #161 on: November 07, 2010, 18:44:28 PM »
Sorry havent seen this thread before and sending best wishes for Rolo and it does sound that he has really improved  :hug: :hug:

Julies answer was very sensible I think  and know that Gwynnie is just fine now  ;D

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« Reply #160 on: November 07, 2010, 11:40:24 AM »
I have heard of Interferon helping with Dry FIP, there is someone on the US forum that has 2 cats that I am sure have had more than a year of good health because of Interferon, I am just trying to find who it is now. Dry FIP has a better prognosis anyway, even without treatment they can have up to a year, rather than a few weeks with wet.

ETA - I have found the womans' initial thread when one of the cats was diagnosed, and two people had used Interferon themselves and said it isn't a very pleasant drug to use, it has really nasty effects and makes them feel really poorly, so I hope it is better for cats.
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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #159 on: November 06, 2010, 22:28:21 PM »
I know it must be so difficult Hun but try and stay positive xxx
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« Reply #158 on: November 06, 2010, 14:15:47 PM »
Thanks Dawn for the treat Rolos' case is very simular to Gwynnies hopfully with simular prognosis.

Thanks Julie for your support and kind wishes you right about Jeremy I will just worry. Rolo came from a Breeder she had about 8 cats but everything was clean & we are not overcrowded here we have two cats and I am a litter tray cleaning machine lol

RSPCA was a inconclusive I just stood there and cried, felt so stupid..

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« Reply #156 on: November 06, 2010, 01:27:50 AM »
Hun, I wouldn't bother testing Jeremy. They can only test for Corona virus (which mutates into FIP). Corona virus is highly contagious, the horse has already bolted.  :tired: They've already been living together for way long enough to cross infect each other months ago. I don't see the point in keeping them seperate now.  :shy:

I can understand the frustration but if you want or expect a definitive diagnosis to say one way or another, I'm afraid you won't get one to say 'FIP' as it can only really be confirmed at postmortem.  :innocent: If it matters at all, I doubt it really is FIP that's effecting Rolo as I've never heard a cat with certain FIP improve the way Rolo seems to be improving.  :)

Corona virus more often than not is spread by cats sharing a litter tray and is much more common when many cats live together. Rescues almost expect to see it in over-crowded houses or houses where cats in poor condition or health are sharing facilities. In fact, Corona virus and the risk of FIP is one of the real biggies to look for when assessing cats that come into rescue with obvious health issues from a crowded and neglected or run down condition. I have no doubt Corona virus is the root cause behind many of the horror stories going around about mass euthanasia in hourding cases. It's a vile, vile disease.  >:( Unfortunately it will never go away until the Corona virus goes away and sadly there is no vaccine.  :tired: The only way to prevent it is to segregate known carriers from other cats and do not allow them to share trays and to not breed from affected cats. In Rolo's case (and if it IS the dreaded Corona virus at the root of this), either he was born with it or he has in fact caught it from Jeremy.

No one knows what makes the Corona virus mutate and trigger FIP, although Rolo does fit the profile for developing full blown FIP being still quite young. But one thing is sure.... many, many cats carry the Corona virus without ever developing FIP. It is posible Rolo is carrying the Corona virus but it is something totally different and so far undiscivered that if making him ill...  So what's the point of testing Jeremy? What are you going to do if he's positive other than worry? Even if he is positive, he might never fall sick.  ;)

The only circumstances I would test Jeremy is if at some point in the future you want to get another cat. Then naturally I would say if Jeremy is positive, don't adopt another cat while Jeremy is still with you.  :scared:

Good luck, hun... believe it or not your case is frequently on my mind as I can see how scared you are and just wish I could offer a magic answer.  :'( :hug: :hug: :hug:

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« Reply #155 on: November 06, 2010, 00:04:39 AM »
Its just a nightmare some days i feel as if i i want to craw under the bed and never come back out again I just dont know where to go there is a RSPCA event on tomorow in my town so im off to the vets to pick up all his test results and then taking him there see what they think I'm going to ask for him to be re-tested for everything.

My hopes are so high at the moment i just feel like it could all come crashing down on us Horrible I just hope the only way is up plus he has been losing weight for about 3 months and now had neurological symptoms over a month.

he has been tested for toxoplasmosis which was negative.

Gillian if you could find gywinnes thread that would be good x


Yeah Rolo was admited for neurological symptoms which did get worse but are now getting better very very confusing.

Should I get our other cat Jeremy tested?????


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« Reply #154 on: November 05, 2010, 22:41:52 PM »
They said the meds would make him feel better but it is just prolonging his life and he will just get worse! and that once neorological symptoms set in which "they have" that we wouldnt have long  :-[

This is exactly what my vet said to me about Gwynnie when she went through the same thing (or very similar) to Rolo - and that was about 3 yrs ago now! I'll see if I can find the thread about her, it all sounds so similar, the lethargy, poor appetite, complete loss (in Gwynnie's case) of use of back legs, high coronavirus titres etc.  :hug:

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Re: Hind end weakness Ragdoll
« Reply #153 on: November 05, 2010, 20:45:51 PM »
From what I know, The dry form of FIP causes lesions to form in areas like the lungs or brain.  If it is FIP then the prognosis is very poor and from what you are saying he is doing really well. The veterinary textbooks I have talk about the FIP disease process being one that progressively gets worse. What meds is he on ?. What rationale is you're vet giving that these meds are prolonging Rolo's life ? You say about neurological symptoms kicking in, but didn't he already have neurological symptoms that have improved ?. In Dry FIP don't these symptoms get worse despite treatment? I'm really hoping this isn't FIP.

Very confusing case.

There is no point in separating Rolo from your other cat. It is the coronovirus that is infectious and if it is coronovirus that is to blame for all this you're other cat would have picked it up by now.
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« Reply #152 on: November 05, 2010, 20:45:09 PM »
Please get your vet to test for  Toxoplasmosis as it gives high titre values like FIP and can give a false reading that makes the vet think it is FIP having been throughn this with our darling rescue the late great Miss Gem who sadly had FIP and tragically died.

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« Reply #151 on: November 05, 2010, 20:26:39 PM »
It definately sounds to me like a mis diagnosis - I truly hope so  :hug:

If it was me I wouldnt be separating my cats because even if it had been FIP they have had contact anyway (hope that makes sense)

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« Reply #150 on: November 05, 2010, 20:02:58 PM »
FIP in its dry form is notoriously difficult to diagnose, so your vet could only  have been giving it his best guess anyway

on the other hand you do need to know what else the weakness could have been due to, if not FIP
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« Reply #149 on: November 05, 2010, 19:49:53 PM »
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« Reply #148 on: November 05, 2010, 19:48:45 PM »
I would definitely ask for a second opinion, don't worry about offending your vet - firstly they are animal lovers so will want him to be well just as much as you do and secondly Rolo is all that matters here  :hug:

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« Reply #147 on: November 05, 2010, 19:46:30 PM »
I know certainly a rollercoaster, They said the meds would make him feel better but it is just prolonging his life and he will just get worse! and that once neorological symptoms set in which "they have" that we wouldnt have long  :-[

So confusing
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« Reply #146 on: November 05, 2010, 18:51:08 PM »
What effect did the vet say the meds he is on would have? Is his recovery what they were expecting would happen and only short term because of the meds?  :hug:

I'd be pushing for a thorough re-examination, have absolutely everything crossed that Rolo does NOT have FIP and goes  on to make a full recovery. What a rollercoaster  :hug:

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« Reply #145 on: November 05, 2010, 18:34:40 PM »
Hi everyone,

I agree I don't think he has FIP as the improvements we have seen are huge! he is now stretching and pushing his bum straight in the air which he hasn't been able to do and jumping, should i still keep my Kitty's separate its killing me we shut our other cat out of the sitting room & he stands at the door & cries :( FIP has been highly suspected but never confirmed the ruled out every thing the knew of any ideas??

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