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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2010, 12:45:22 PM »
Sorry!  :shy: Have just read some of the comments on the article and I agree that clearly all the cats should be spayed and neutered and potentially more litter trays should be provided. I also feel that 27 cats is an awful lot in that amount of territory...BUT what are the options? The cats look loved, well fed (regardless of the budget she claims to have) and are clearly important to  this woman.




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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2010, 08:05:36 AM »
How did this turn into a food thread?!  :)  I think the food thing is only an issue for me because you can never guarantee a cat will eat a particular thing.  What if one of this lady's cats decides not to eat what she is feeding or needs a prescription diet?  Will she be able to afford that?

But the main part of the article that gets me is that this lady has 6 unneutered cats roaming free.  That is not responsible cat ownership.

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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2010, 18:37:43 PM »
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2010, 17:23:27 PM »
Oh Gill - Birmans are the fussiest of the lot I think! Beavis has to have brand rotation as he refuses the same food two weeks in a row! :Crazy:

Ok mine is not a Birman but have had a cat eating the same type of meat and flavour for 21 months (due to medical condition) if she finds out there will be uproar  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2010, 16:28:52 PM »
Oh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy   :scared:

My two have been eating the same food and flavour now for months..........................shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dont tell them  :innocent:

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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2010, 16:26:35 PM »
Oh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy   :scared:

My two have been eating the same food and flavour now for months..........................shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dont tell them  :innocent:

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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2010, 14:59:05 PM »
Oh Gill - Birmans are the fussiest of the lot I think! Beavis has to have brand rotation as he refuses the same food two weeks in a row! :Crazy:



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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #51 on: November 14, 2010, 14:11:20 PM »
I must be lucky because all of mine (including the dog) and even the ferals will eat anything!!
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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2010, 14:06:16 PM »
Oh Ellen I have four like that  :rofl: :rofl:

When the first two arrived I thought......Oh well never mind................and when the birmans arrived I thought oh good now for normal cats  :rofl: :rofl:

But noooooooooo they dont like it either......sigh

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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #49 on: November 14, 2010, 13:20:17 PM »
Mine arent keen on the fishy varieties either  :tired:

Weirdly, the least favourite of ours too....maybe we should start another thread about this...? :shy:

I have a cat that will turn his nose up to roast chicken, roast beef, roast pork, well in fact all fresh food of the meat, poultry and fish variety
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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #48 on: November 14, 2010, 13:16:52 PM »
Mine arent keen on the fishy varieties either  :tired:

Weirdly, the least favourite of ours too....maybe we should start another thread about this...? :shy:





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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2010, 13:11:16 PM »
[admin]As Kirst has said - Please stop the personal attacks, the digs and remarks at any forum members. Purrs is here to help cats in need not to host petty arguments. [/admin]

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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2010, 13:01:08 PM »
Remember what Purrs is all about - we shoudl ALL have the same agenda and I for one feel that its getting lost. :'(



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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2010, 12:55:37 PM »
No personal attacks please - REally don;'t want to be locking any more threads today!

Apologies Kirst, but sometimes its hard to hold back  :shy:

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« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2010, 12:51:28 PM »
[gmod][/gmod] No personal attacks please - REally don;'t want to be locking any more threads today!



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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2010, 12:49:32 PM »
Have been feeding our 7 Classic on and off over last week.  Well they'e eaten a tin for one of their 3 meals a day on each of 4 days and liked it.  Mark mentioned it's pretty good for puds with kidney issues (I think he did)

Haven't tried them with fish variety of Classic recently

Classic is good for cats with mouth problems too  :) The meat percentage is for the NAMED variety i.e. in the chicken variety there is 4% chicken, but that doesnt meant there is ONLY 4% meat - the rest is made up of 'other' meat and derivatives. BUT, the good thing is, as others have said, it doesnt contain other rubbish, like cereals, rice, veggies, soya etc etc  :)

Mine arent keen on the fishy varieties either  :tired:

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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2010, 12:47:13 PM »
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 well its easy to joke in idle banter but that doesnt require much intelligence just the ability to upset others. There are several people who need to learn compassion and humility.


Couldn't find a smiley of a greenhouse

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 :rofl: hit the nail on the head there Michelle!

How about a witches hat or even a pumkin yes I am onto this  :rofl: Thank you all. :hug:

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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2010, 12:38:29 PM »
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 well its easy to joke in idle banter but that doesnt require much intelligence just the ability to upset others. There are several people who need to learn compassion and humility.


Couldn't find a smiley of a greenhouse

 ;)

 :rofl: hit the nail on the head there Michelle!

How about a witches hat or even a pumkin yes I am onto this  :rofl: Thank you all. :hug:

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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2010, 12:20:04 PM »
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 well its easy to joke in idle banter but that doesnt require much intelligence just the ability to upset others. There are several people who need to learn compassion and humility.


Couldn't find a smiley of a greenhouse

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 :rofl: hit the nail on the head there Michelle!

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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2010, 12:18:16 PM »
i think it depends on the circumstances. i could be in the news next! in the house i have 4 of my own cats, 1 stray, 1 feral and 8 kittens and i'm in a 3 bed terrace house but mine are fosters, mine and the stray/ferals are neutered/spayed and some of the older kittens are too. although i spend way more than that on cat food- i buy mine from the wholesalers so the cats get the good stuff abit cheaper. mine eat james wellbeloved/science plan/royal canin dry food, applaws and sheba wet food, only the best for my lot!

the lady may well have took strays and ferals in. it may well be better than being dumped at a rescue and definately better than them being pts. whatever her reasons, i think her heart is in the right place

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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2010, 11:58:42 AM »
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 well its easy to joke in idle banter but that doesnt require much intelligence just the ability to upset others. There are several people who need to learn compassion and humility.


Couldn't find a smiley of a greenhouse

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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2010, 22:48:46 PM »
Another thing about Classic (sorry, this is going way off topic) - Sage appears to have a dicky tummy with most food but has very little trouble if we're consistently feeding her Classic.




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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2010, 19:17:12 PM »
What are you saying "oh bum" for....? :scared:

Just that I thought I was helping Fred's kidney probs; thankfully he is not diabetic  :shy:

It looks like meat and fish content is 4% which is same as Felix and Whiskas so assume similar  phosphorus levels.  At least it's cheaper though  :innocent:

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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2010, 19:01:21 PM »
  Mark mentioned it's pretty good for puds with kidney issues (I think he did)

.... Classic - I heard it was good for diabetic cats.

Oh bum  :(

Yup, was told on a feline diabetes forum classic's pretty good for diabetic cats that's how ours ended up eating it. (What are you saying "oh bum" for....? :scared:)

I think this is a bit of a mixed bag. Clearly the cats look healthy and well cared for. However, in a three bedroom semi that amount of cats isn't ideal on the psychological front (in my opinion).....But with the amount of cats needing homes, I think this is likely to happen more and more as people that genuinely care and want to help end up taking on more cats than is ideal for the space they inhabit. I feel sad for the lady because she clearly cares about the cats.




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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2010, 12:32:07 PM »
Teresa - if you know more about this, perhaps you'd like to share?

All we can go on, is what is in the article.  And this lady is not a rescue.  She is keeping 27 cats in a semi - by anyone's standards that is a lot of cats and I do feel for her neighbours

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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2010, 07:58:37 AM »
I left this thread because I was angry about the way this lady with apparently well cared for cats had been branded by so called intelligent Purrs peeps.

Not only has this lady been criticised but there have been certain "digs" made about intelligence and others about not doing homework which I feel were directed at forum members; well its easy to joke in idle banter but that doesnt require much intelligence just the ability to upset others. There are several people who need to learn compassion and humility.

The feeding of the 5000 with loaves and fishes and similar stretching of resources requires far more intelligence.

I apologise in advance if this has upset anyone but I am rather busy making my loaves and fishes go round at the minute and have the posters concerned ever asked what I feed to my rescues or if indeeed they are being fed enough?

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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2010, 00:51:38 AM »
  Mark mentioned it's pretty good for puds with kidney issues (I think he did)

.... Classic - I heard it was good for diabetic cats.

Oh bum  :(

At least it is cereal free on the bright side. The problem is, as a rule, the higher the meat content, the higher the phosphorus - That is why Orijen & Applaws/Encore have the highest phos content.
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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2010, 00:44:55 AM »
  Mark mentioned it's pretty good for puds with kidney issues (I think he did)

.... Classic - I heard it was good for diabetic cats.

Oh bum  :(

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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2010, 00:38:30 AM »
  Mark mentioned it's pretty good for puds with kidney issues (I think he did) a

Never had any luck with Classic - I heard it was good for diabetic cats. I think it was JS that posted about it a few years ago.

As for cheap biccies - someone posted about B&M or somewhere like that selling 10kg of good quality dry for £8 or something. From what I remember, it was on par with JWB, PAH premium etc - ie has yukka, rosemary oil 25%+ chicken etc.
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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2010, 00:31:45 AM »
Am stunned Julie but delighted to hear it  :wow:.

Have been feeding our 7 Classic on and off over last week.  Well they'e eaten a tin for one of their 3 meals a day on each of 4 days and liked it.  Mark mentioned it's pretty good for puds with kidney issues (I think he did) and Fred not too good in that dep't.  Have to say they get good quality biccies though altho try to get Fred to eat RC renal. 

Haven't tried them with fish variety of Classic recently as, last time I did, they wouldn't touch it and am only using meat varieties of Classic on and off coz last time I tried feeding only Classic for their wet food that they looked like I was trying to poison them  :innocent:
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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2010, 00:21:28 AM »
You could actually just about do it on Butcher's classic tins heavily mixed with a low grade own brand biscuit to bulk it out. I know people feeding feral groups who do this.  :sneaky:

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« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2010, 00:07:20 AM »
Aaalrightie ladies, I wanna know where I can get cat food that costs only £30 a week to feed 27 cats and them still look fit and healthy.  Me motor's running and am ready to stock up  ;D
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2010, 16:56:59 PM »
I agree that in an ideal world all cats would be fed on top quality grub , but the truth is that many mogs have survived , and in fact flourished on a maybe sub standard diet and it has done them no harm.................after all there was certainly no high meat . low cereal food about 50 years ago but still plenty of healthy happy cats! ;)

My grandmothers cat survived 19 years on a diet of fish scraps , milk and offal quite happily! :sick: (NAN IS 96 BTW!)



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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2010, 16:18:19 PM »
I'm also in two minds about this story, one on hand I think it sounds a little like hoarding too, and it doesn't matter how much she loves the cats or how lonely she is, if she can't provide adequate care for the cats she shouldn't have so many, like others have said, I wonder if all the cats have been de-flead, wormed, and have adequate vet care should they need it. Also find it strange that people are outraged at the thought of one entire cat being allowed outside or allowed to live with other entire cats, but in this case people feel sorry for her? Again, if she can't afford to neuter them all then I think she should either look into getting vouchers or have to give them away, especially since the possible consequences of it are going to be way more expensive then the cost of the operations. Also a bit weary of the fact of her only having 3 trays, plus you have to wonder what state the back garden is in if the council have ordered her to clear it up? I think the article plays on the 'poor lonely old woman getting victimised by the big bag neighbours' angle instead of putting over an unbiased view. I don't agree with people signing the petition when they're not directly affected though.

On the other hand though, you have to think that at least being in a home is better than the cats being taken away and pts, with a little bit of help the lady could probably get some neutering vouchers, buy a couple more trays and do something to show that she's trying to clean up the cats' mess a little bit which would hopefully appease the neighbours. Like others have said too, we don't know all the facts and there might be good reasosn for some of the stuff I've pointed out but we just don't know so can only assume. I do feel a bit sorry for her but she got herself into the situation and doesn't seem to be doing much to solve it, it would only take a little bit of effort to ensure she could keep all of her cats and keep the neighbours happy.
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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2010, 14:15:06 PM »
What I was trying to say but didn't do it very well was that I can see both sides of the story !

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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2010, 14:05:03 PM »
The whole point of this story is being missed -
Can you imagine the mess 27 cats are making if they are using someones garden as a toilet ?!
I think even I would get the hump  :evillaugh:
Maybe she can off to clean up after her cats (I've done this when I neighbour dropped into convo that one of mine was "using" her front garden)

I can't see how this can be stopped without keeping the cats indoors.....Its not like she can put a nappy on them !

Must say, the house looks clean, tiday and the cats well cared for

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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2010, 13:38:38 PM »
As much as I love to stir in all seriousness I think being able to feed your pets (and humans) top of the range organic food is good but it has to be IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT.
Bog standard catfood is nutritional enough and does for 99% of cats no problem. (having just treated the fosters to some turkey pieces , though it was bernard matthews so it doesn't really count!).
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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2010, 13:32:56 PM »
Well all I can say is I am in the wrong place if I made to feel in the wrong for wanting the best of health for animals so we shall leave it there. Two arguments in one morning is enough for me.

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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2010, 12:54:22 PM »
Personally, I care about the long term health of my cats, so feeding them a high cereal, low meat diet full of colourings and preservatives is out of the question. There are better quality foods that don't break the bank but so many don't bother to do their homework.

Gosh, definitely no room up there on the moral high ground for impoverished elderly ladies who don't know that they're supposed to be spending their time agonising over their internet research on high quality cat foods.  Shame on them for having the audacity to think that they have the right to own and love their pets.
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Re: widow-in-battle-to-keep-her-27-pet-cats
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2010, 12:47:05 PM »
Personally, I care about the long term health of my cats, so feeding them a high cereal, low meat diet full of colourings and preservatives is out of the question. There are better quality foods that don't break the bank but so many don't bother to do their homework.

Gosh, definitely no room up there on the moral high ground for impoverished elderly ladies who don't know that they're supposed to be spending their time agonising over their internet research on high quality cat foods.  Shame on them for having the audacity to think that they have the right to own and love their pets.

 


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