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Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: pappilon on May 04, 2014, 23:45:23 PM
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Is Frontline Combo safe to use on a pregnant cat? If not could some one recommend a safe spoton and deworming tablet please.
She looks very young and small and i think she is pregnant , she is also covered in Fleas and keep scratching and licking herself . I am hopping that its worms and not kittens in her huge tummy but cant risk it.
I managed to take few pictures so i could print and put through the doors in are area tomorrow , if she belongs to some one but she is spending a lot of time out side my flat and trying desperately
to come in :( She was out last night at 4am and sitting out right now.
Thank you
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Hi Pav
According to the Noah website you can:
"Use in pregnancy
Cats: The product can be used during pregnancy.
(For treatment during the lactating period, see above)"
She's a bonny little thing, isn't she? Sounds like she might've been living rough for a while. Typical that she's found her way to your door...... :hug: Will she let you approach her, and will she take food? Hoping you can get her treated, and hoping that an owner may turn up, although doesnt sound great on that front with the condition she's in.
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Thank you Sue :hug:
I think its best if i take her to my vet to check if she is chipped or not,also to find out if she is pregnant or not :-:
She spent the night out in the little house , i put some towels and small vet bed in there and this morning she was out at 6 for breakfast.
First few days she was growling and hissing but since yesterday she is just all over me, keep giving me head butts and follows me every where :Luv: It seems she is more interested in a fuss than food! She eats very little but loves cat milk.
For some reason Felicity is scared of her not sure why and Mr Jingles runaway from her as she keeps trying to rub her head under his chin and he doesnt like it. But then they are both fine when the big Tom cat is around for his food. It breaks my heart not to let her in as she is trying so hard but am concern about Felicity :(
Not sure if the vets are open today , like to get her checked ASAP.
This is last night in our front, few min later Felicity was in and didnt go out all night which is unusuall for her and Mr Jingles was up the tree trying to get away from her.
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How odd. I wonder if she is pregnant and maybe that's what's spooking your own babies? Awful to contemplate if she is, bless her. Gotta say, they make a handsome trio.
Good luck with getting her checked over, Pav. You have such a big heart, and it would be lovely if this could resolve itself for the best possible outcome for all concerned. :hug: :hug:
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Rosella used the vet at PAH over weekend so that could be a quick cheaper option if you have one.
Love the pics.............obviously the cat grapevine has your name on it! Suspect she is very young feral unnuetered but has learnt that humans can help
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What a beauty! She obviously knew where to go for food and comfort. Fingers crossed that she is chipped and that it is just worms in her tummy :crossed:
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I went to work this morning to get my cat carrier its been there since i tried to help the B/W cat .
Sue, i am thinking that might be the reason for Felicity not liking her and being scared.
Gill, i think there is a PAH in Hendon but had to stay at work so i could get tomorrow off, my vet wont charge for scanning her and if she is pregnant then i will take her straight to Mayhew. They would take a pregnant cat there she would be looked after, but after this eve not sure if she is :-[ I got home and there she was waiting so made a fuss of her and got some more pics then got her some food but she wouldnt eat! She had some milk though and i thought is best if i comb her got the3 flea comb and OMG i have never seen anything like this before she does have few Fleas but when i run the comb through her it was covered in this black insects the size of small ants some with horns and some flat :sick: The fleas were quick to jump but these guys were just crowling . Have no idea what they are but she is covered with them i also could feel her spine and all her bones poor thing has hardly any flesh on her just long her and huge tummy :( I mean if she is pregnant or has worms she must be starving . She cries a lot and just roll on her back and wants me to pet her.
I am not sure though what to do if she is not pregnant, then Mayhew may not take her in as emergency case?
Gill , i dont think she is feral. I suspect some ones neglected pet or unwanted litter that they couldnt get rid >:(
Slugsta she is beautiful, i doubt she is chipped though. She is in a bad way under her chin is all matted.
Any how here are some more pics of her, i better go need to sort my guys now.
Thank you so much for caring enough to reply, means a lot :hug: :hug:
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Oh Pav, poor creature! It sounds as if she has lice of some kind, do you have any capstar? I can pop some in to post for you if not. I do hope she's just lost and not pregnant. Let me know what I can do to help, ok? I have a crate!
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Oh Sheila , thanks :hug: I am taking her to my vet first thing that is if she is around. She is sitting outside my neighbours flat right now cleaning herself.
I think i know what they are, i was in bathroom washing my hands with surgical spirit and cleaning the comb and thinking what could they be and i remembered my neighbour upstairs looked after some ones cat for a week and the reason was that person house was infested with cockroach and the Rentokil was going in to treat the place, so the poor cat had them on her and my neighbour called me to go and help her with the cat which i refused cos the only thing i am terrified of in this world are cockroches :sick: She showed me the pics later though and that is what she has baby cockroch I cant believe this, i feel sick knowing i had them in tssue in my hand. I think she must be some ones cat and the house she lives in must be infested with them.
Oh what if the eggs get on Mr Jingles now, i feel like crying.
Well, guess its too late now to worry :tired:
Sheila thank you for the offer of the crate, but let me see what happens tomorrow with the vet visit :hug: :hug: Also sending Beau lots of good vibes and gentle hugs. :hug: :hug:
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Oh Pav that is terrible and I am terrified of them, too.
I do hope you can get her to the vets asap and they can treat her immediately to get rid of all the insects and worms etc.
You need to ask them what to do if she has got any on your cats cos you need to keep your house and cats unaffected.
What a terrible situation and poor little cat.
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Thank you Gill :hug: It serves me right to try and help every cat i think need helping :evillaugh:
I combed Mr Jingles and couldnt see any thing and now is Felicity's turn, no way am going to bed with these two till i know they are clear but then they could have brought the eggs in and i have black carpet in coridor so cant spot them, What a day :tired:
I am sure the vet can help with the cats but i might have to get the flat sprayed which is not ideal with two scaredy cat :-:
Finger crossed she is here in the morning.
Good Night :hug:
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Oh Pav. What a palaver!! I was wondering if they were lice, too. Poor little lass, she must be in a bad way.
And I so feel for you - sometimes when we try to help, we wonder what on earth we've got ourselves into. :doh: :doh: Hope the little girl is around today so you can get her checked out at the vet. :hug: :hug:
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Pav, you are brilliant :hug: :hug: :hug:
Poor girl, sounds very neglected :(
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Thank you Sue, Alison :hug: :hug:
No sign of her :-: Been out in the back gd since 6 am waiting . They know dont they :shify:
Well i am off today , the vet is open till 7 and Mayhew till 4
Finger crossed she turns up.
Alison hope Archi is feeling better :hug: :hug:
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Bloomin heck Pav.............I hope she turns up mayb e has already.
Yes they do know and Kocka used to leave the garden and hide when she was feeling under the weather. She listened into my telephone call to the vet amd made a note of the time and then hid and have had to cancel more than one appointment despite knowing she was in the house with cat flap locked!!
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I so hope that this little girl turns up so that she can be helped. Pav, how awful if it really is cockroaches, she must be in a bad way to be so infested. The vet should be able to tell you how to make sure that your flat, and cats, are clear :hug:
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Hope no news is good news
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Thank you Slugsta, yes she is in a bad way as she is under weight and has Fleas too. :(
Gill, its not good really . As soon as i let my two out at 10am i saw her outside chasing Mr Jingles
so i thought i ask neighbour if she could take her to the vet for me while i get mine indoor which she said no :-: So i got some food and milk and went out and noticed she has got a collor on :Crazy: One of those which you could get many years ago in supermarkets , it looked old and worn out.
I thought about this hard and long , she must have a home and it wouldnt be right for me
to take her to a vet then would it? I am very concerned if she is pregnant then she may have
difficulty giving birth as she is very small and she needs to be treated for fleas and roches :sick:
I am thinking of printing a paper collor at work tomorrow and leave a message with my number
if i get a call back i can try and explain my concerns as she is hanging out here around my two
and find out more about her. TBH i am not sure whats best to do now?
I could always try and comb her some more tonight, i will put a bowl of water next to me and
drop what ever i catch in there . I noticed she was twitching all over today , poor baby :(
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If the collar is that old then think you should get her to the vet if you can..............so hard :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Oh Pav, tough one.
I think a paper collar is a good idea to start with. Poor girl full of fleas and have never heard of a cat full of roaches :(
All I can say is Parki's mum used to visit before Parki arrived and I started caring for her then she turned up with a collar one day. It then was like she had two owners and I regret not taking her to the vet and believed them that her health and ear lump was under control.
Oh dear she is not very good with Mr Jingles :(
Might she be full of worms that is extending her tum :(
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Pav, I think Capstar would help.
You crush one tablet into their food and it kills biting insects stone dead in 24 hours. Whatever is living off her needs killing, and this can be done without harming her, or even going near her.
I put it in tasty tna fish which masks the gritty texture and guarantees they eat the whole tablet in one go.
You can get some at Pets at Home or PetSmart, or online at Animed, VetUK or Zooplus (I think) and it will do her no harm whatsoever.
I've never heard of roaches on animals either, but if her bedding is infested with them I suppose she may be carrying them around too. A thorough spray with Indorex should kill off any eggs and larvae in your place, and prevent spread to Mmme Felicity and Mr Jingles.
Let me know if you want me to post some Capstar over, I can send it in the morning?
SR xx
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Pav, I know it is a touch decision, especially when you have your own furbabies to consider. However, I really think this little girl needs to see a vet soon :(
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Gill, i have no problem taking her to the vet just wasnt sure if its the right thing to do but reading Alison post i think i should. If she is here early in the morning i could take her before going to work, my vet is only 5 min drive . If not i could do Saturday.
Sheila, can i get it from the vet? Sorry never heared of Capstar but it sounds like what she needs. I dont want to put you in any trouble, shall i call my vet in the morning and ask if they have any and if they dont then i could pm you. Do i need to give her once or more? If only i was sure she is not pregnant then i could put the spot on and give her Milbemax but i dont want to do any harm.I dont mind getting close to her she was late tonight and it was dark outside so i couldnt sit and comb her . I took her some food and milk but all she wanted was for me to rub her face and chin she keeps getting up and giving head butts , ever so friendly :Luv2: I am ashamed to say i wore gloves tonight but i really am scared of cockroches :-[ It would be great to get rid of all the nasty things on her. She doesnt eat much but i havent tried tuna she might like it. Thank you :hug:
I will order some from vet uk aswell, it seems like a good thing to have around with all the strays around.
After seeing the collor on her i wonder if she lives with some one who is not up to looking after her properly, and if the place is infested then thats how she gets them :sick:
Slugsta, i will make sure she does. I am surprise how my two try to stay away from her! This eve as soon as she arrived Mr Jingles run inside and Felicity jumped over the wall :naughty: Well i guess is a good thing as i am getting attached to her :innocent:
Thank you every one for your thoughts and help :hug:
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Oh Pav. :hug: :hug: Can fully appreciate your reluctance here, but from what you say, this little girl needs help. you know what it makes me think of? There was a little lad went to our school when I was a kid, and he was always "the scruffy kid." His elbows were out, his hand-me-down short trousers were patched and shiny, he wore odd socks and gawd love him, he smelled. He was a lovely, cheerful lad, but all the other kids were told by their mothers to stay away from him. Even the teachers used to pick on the lad, and it wasn't his fault.
I met him once years ago, and I almost didnt recognise him. He'd blossomed - somehow, into a handsome, well turned out guy in his late twenties. He told me he was dating, had a job, and a little council flat. I remember how chuffed I was that in spite of all the odds he was up against, he overcame them.
That's what this little girl reminds me of.
I think Felicity and Mr Jingles are giving her a wide berth because of the insect problem., and I cant say I blame them.
I dont think anyone who owns a cat that is in this state, is in any position to do something to help them, whether through ignorance, poverty, illness or just sheer neglect. :( :(
I hope someone can give her the help that she needs, but Pav, that might not be you. :hug: :hug: And you shouldnt feel ashamed about anything - you give far more of yourself than many many others. :hug:
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Aww Sue, what a lovely story it made me smile mix with tears. So pleased he made it and didnt let the bad experiance affect him. :)
You are right i think its either the insects or her being pregnant that is making my guys keep away .
Not a good start to my day, fl...n gardner turned up at 6.30 this morning i was about to go out and saw him outside my flat by this time Mr Jingle mamaged to get out and freaked so run towards the back. I asked him what is he doing here he is due next wednesday to cut the grass he replied i promised to cut the hegdes! I told him if he could wait in front till i get Mr J back in so i got him and as walking towards my door he walks towards us , Mr J panicked he does if he is in my arms and he sees any one i managed to get him in while struggling i ended up with my boobs and arm badly scratched :-: So i calmed him down and cleaned the area which was still bleeding . I knew that the little girl would also disappear if he sees the gardner , had cup of tea and made my way to the back to ask if he still coming next week to find he had cut back my beautiful tree, the only amazing thing with purple flower which looked like an umberella he cut it right back :( I asked him why he said well i was told by Linda my neighbour to cut the rose back so i did this too >:( But why so drasticly i asked , is it going to grow back which he replied in different places. I felt like crying i am so upset i just walked away :( Its 10 am now and the little girl is not here yet i am so late for work my two are crossing their legs wanting to go for a wee and the bl...y gardner still out there.
Sorry for the rant but def not a good morning.
Sue, i will help the little girl . The only thing in my mind last night was what if i take her to the vet and she is not neutured then what do i do? I dont mind paying for the op but then she would need to stay in after and my vet doesnt do inside stiches so i need to take her back to pull them out like i did with Felicity. Do i get her vaccinated too.
I better go, no sign of her out side :-:
Sheila, i called the vet and they dont do Capstar, though i placed the order for Vet UK last night so i expect to have the delivery tomorrow and thank you :hug:
What about if we call the little girl Cup Cake or Shortie for now ;)
Have a great day every one. x
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Oh Pav, what an awful morning! That 'gardener' sounds more like an odd-job man to me, certainly not someone who knows and respects gardens >:(
You are doing so much for Cup-Cake (and I know you have done for others too, including Mr Jingles) but you can't do everything for every stray or neglected cat out there. I don't know what to suggest regarding neutering and vaccinating if neccessary, I guess we will cross that bridge when we come to it.
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Sounds like a murderer not a gardner!
I think the first priority with Cupcake is to get rid of all those insects and any worms and to check if she is pregnant :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Thank you Gill, Slugsta :hug: Have some good news but back from work late and Cupcake is out now waiting and am going to watch Super vet on Channel 4+1 @ 9pm .Be back to update soon ;)
The gardner wont be doing our garden no more :innocent: Got back and couldnt believe the mess
all my plants and pots knocked down while he was taking the hedges out >:( Long story :-:
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So sorry that the gardener has done so much damage :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Ok, am back and not going to talk about the gardner :innocent:
Slugsta, thats was my thought this morning to take Cupcake to my vet for checkup and then cross the bridge when it comes to neuturing but then decided if i start the process i need to do the right thing, keeping her after having the op in my flat not possible. She is such a friendly young cat and deserves a loving home. So i called Mayhew once again, got to answering and left a message got a call back from the reception ten min later lovely lady not like the last person i spoke to last month re the shop cat the one who kept telling me just answer the questions!!! She took every thing down and told me the rescue officer will call me in next 3 days but then i got a call back after 40 min :) I was told she is a priority being pregnant. I explained she may not be pregnant and could be worms but underweight and the whole situation. I also told her about the tom cats around and she reckon there could be a feral colony and she could be from there, what you said Gill! I told her about the paper collor and she agreed is a good idea but she doubt i get a respond or her being chipped.
I explained having no problem to take her to my vet for treatments and neuturing but my concern is after care and finding her a home , she said if there is no reply to my message from paper by friday then i should call her and she makes sure there is a place for her in Mayhew and i can take her in either friday afternoon or Saturday ;D She will be checked, treated and put for rehoming when the time is right. I am over the moon and told her i would be making a donation towards her treatment.
She also suggested to come around and set traps to catch the Tom cats, if they are chipped then Mayhew will contact the owners and give them advice re neuturing and if not chipped then neutured and release back :) I told her i would try and help with traping but if we could discuss it on Friday as i was in a meeting and peeps were listening :-:
I managed to put the paper collor on Cupcake, the nice neighbour next door saw me and came over to help but she ran away though came back soon after. She also offered to help towards the donation to Mayhew :)
Also offered some ham and cooked ck to Cupcake which i got for Mr Jingles earlier to say sorry for this morning, she loved it and wof down the whole so am pleased that she's had a decent meal.
Now keeping finger crossed for next 2 days. I can sleep better tonight knowing if i dont get a respond back from the paper collor then she would have a safe place to go to and and i can even go and visit her .
Have to go now and spend some times with my guys, as am doing double shift tomorrow in order to have friday off :tired:
Thank you every one, your thoughts and advice has guided me to do the right thing for this little one. Bless you x :hug: :hug:
Some how the gardener .... dont seem important now ;) :naughty:
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Some how the gardener .... dont seem important now ;) :naughty:
No indeed Pav :) :) :) You are such a star :gold stars: :Flowers:
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Pav this is fantastic, so pleased you have found support with Mayhew ;D Well done for persevering!
Sorry about the garden, though. What an idiot >:(
Good luck cupcake xx
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Thank you Rosella and Sheila yes idiot is the right word to descibe him :evillaugh:
Some how i dont think i would get any sleep tonight good or not :shify:
Felicity is refusing to come in sitting on the wall ,keeping her paws cross to catch a big fat mouse like she did the other night , saved and released by me later :evillaugh:
Cupcake is outside and every time i open the door to call Felicity she runs to me and roll over as she is trying to sell her self, this is breaking my heart i really am tempted to bring her in :(
I keep telling her goooo home but then think she doesnt have a home she looks strange with the collors on. She is so sweet when you rub her back she purrs but growl at the same time, bless her she must be confused me being nice to her but not letting her in :-[ Why cant she go to the little house and sleep. I manged to touch her tummy tonight and having dealt with pregnant cats before i do believe she is pregnant :(
And then its the new cat Otto which was adopted from Mayhew in Nov by my elderly neighbour . He is outside too, its like a cat night club out there:evillaugh:
That is it, i am going out to sit with Cupcake and comb her.Might aswell do some thing useful
if cant get any sleep.
Looking forward to have a lazy Sunday.
Nite Nite
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Well done Pav you are a star ;D ;D ;D
I hope Cupcake will get to Mayhew soon and she sounds as if she will make someone a fabulas cat.
If they come round trapping find out when and keep yours in :rofl: :rofl:
Yes it sounds like a normal night for cats in London!
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Yes Gill, i didnt even think of my cats. You are right we dont want them in there :)
Yes they all had a great night out, and i covered my landing with a white sheet sat there with Cupcake and gave her a proper make over got lots of nasties out she even had ants in her fur.
Just let mine out and saw her coming out of the little house so she spent the night here, going to give her breakfast now. Cant wait to take her in. one or two more sleep out there and then she'll be safe and looked after.
Dont want to do a double shift today , but hay is to have tomorrow off for Miss Cupcake. What we do for the love of cats ;)
Have a great day every one and thank you , couldnt do it without your support :hug: :hug:
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Oh Pav, am so sorry about the mess the Gardener made of your plants and the tree. I hate that kind of destruction - we were just on about it on Alison's thread too. Very sad.
But, on a positive note, that's real progress with regard to the Mayhew, and their proposal, and am so glad that at last you have some practical support with this, because you cant always do everything on your own :hug: :hug: :hug: She sounds like such a lovely cat, and I'm sure if they can get her treated, and give her a safe place for her pregnancy to run its course, ultimately she'll be capable of being re-homed with someone who will really care for her, and look after her.
Am wondering if she's actually "living" somewhere unoccupied, given the amount of livestock she seems to be carrying in her coat, bless her, and well done you for tackling that job. It's lovely that she's happy to let you tend to her, as that implies a huge amount of trust.
That was very generous of Mr Jingles to share his treat, and I hope that Felicity didnt manage to capture the mouse. :shify:
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Pav, there will be a special place in heaven for you, for all you do!
Great result re the Mayhew, here's hoping that Miss Cupcake co-operates and she will soon be safe and properly cared for ;D
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Sending loads of these for a wonderful lady :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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purring and growling at the same time suggests she adores the feel of being stroked but has very sore skin so her brain is giving her mixed messages? Ants too :( I hate ants, nearly as much as you hate roaches, Pav.
Wishing you the very best of luck with this little one, the more i read about her the more i think she has sought you out for help. ;)
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I think Pav is like a very bright light in a sometimes too dark world, and cats respond to that. :)
How is she today Pav? :hug:
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Good Morning, sorry got home very late last night :tired: She was sitting outside my door in the rain waiting :(
Sue, i really cant say if she lives some where unoccupied or not but some one has put the old collor on her some one she trusts to get close to :-: I remember Mr Tramp used to come for his meal allmost the same time every eve and one night i decided to follow him and found out he lived under a caravan eight doors away that was his home :'( Cupcake could be living some where very close .
What is interesting is i noticed she tries to get close to Mr Jingles and now Otto and give the head butts and rub her head against them which Mr J doesnt like but she doesnt get close to Felicity at all!
Sheila, not only she growls and purrs while am rubbing her back but as soon as she sees me she starts hissing and meowing but also runs between my legs and follows me, i am starting to think she might be ferral but then how come she is so friendly? Last night i had to stay and make a fuss and rub her ear and chin before she started eating, felt awful coming in and leaving her in the rain so left a message very late on rescue officer answering to ask if i could take her in today no point of waiting , i doubt i get a call from collor.
Sue, no sign of her this morning :scared: Waiting to hear from Mayhew and keeping my fingers crossed she turns up today . I need to get her to Mayhew either today or tomorrow , cant take any more days off.
Sorry if i missed any thing still tired from yesterday, just hoping i get to sort her out today.
Thank you :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Do you hope she comes today Pav, and you can get her to the Mayhew.
The collar, being old, could have been a former owner - cats circumstances can change in a trice - if that owner was elderly, fell ill or died, she may have been left to take her chances. Sounds like she's a friendly cat at herat and therefore unlikely to have been feral from birth - more like she's living on her wits - alittle like Mr Tramp
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Sending every good wish that you are able to get her to a place of safety and nurture today Pav :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Thanks every one :hug:
Had a call from rescue officer at 9 to say they have one cabin left which they will keep for her today and tomorrow as she is priority case, and could take her in any time before 4pm as she is going to be in all day. Made me think i would be really embarresed if she is not pregnant :-[
So got my two in and decided to go and look for her, i checked the little house and realized she has used it at some point last night the clean towel and bedding i put in was used and not so clean. Started calling and saw her coming down towards me from next door neighbour garden.
Rushed back got food and cat carrier , called the cab and asked him to come straight away. Sat next to her and straight away she got on my lap and i thought if i start giving her breakfast then i may lose the chance to get her in so i just put her in. It was easy but she started freaking out and going round in the carrier si i shed few tears covering her and kept telling her is for the best.
She went very quiet in the cab, we got to Mayhew and they said the officer had to go out to trap a cat will be back in 30 min so i send the cab away and sat there waiting, i saw one of the girls who works in the cattery she has been there for over 15 years lovely and experianced so i asked her to have a look at Cupcake and she said aww god she is so young, it would be awful if she is pregnant it probably kill her :scared: . She looked a bit scared but not too bad so the rescue officer got back after an hour and we went to check in room.
She open the carrier and Cupcake was as goos as gold , She checked and no microchip then she said i thought she was heavily pregnant?! Thats why i consider her as priority. I never used the word heavily i did say big tummy but i also said it could be worms . So i asked is she pregnant, she said yes but early stage :-: Then she said so where is the ticks, no ticks i said , fleas, roches,... and i have been brushing her every night and have given her capstar. So she is not as bad. She gave me this look which made me feel really guilty as i have lied and now taking a place of a needy cat so i told her if there is a problem with space then i am happy to take her in which straight away she said ok then we have a pick and snip and will drop her to you tomorrow morning :shocked: I asked what is a pick and snip she said we have her neutered and chiped under your name and you could have her back. I told her the whole idea of asking Mayhew for help is after neuturing care, other wise i could have taken her to my own vet. I then asked if they could keep her for at least 2 nights to make sure she is ok after the op and then i can arrange some time off work to stay in with her as my cats dont like her and i dont have a spare room to keep them seperate . I also dont like the idea of having her neutered and released 24 hours later, its weekend and if any thing goes wrong what am i suppose to do? Which then she suggested ok you can take her next door to our clinic book her in under your name for next week and we have her neutered for free and you can then take her home, by this time i thought i have to think with my head and not my heart :( What if i take her back and then she disappear there is no gurantee she stays around till next week and also i have to put my cats first taking her in could upset my 2 what if they refuse to come in, i know its very selfish of me thinking like this but if they liked her i would have taken her in. I thought i asked Mayhew because i consider her being young and pregnant urgent other wise i would have helped her myself like i did with the black stray in Aug which now lives with friend in Bath.
Sorry for this long post but this morning i thought by taking her in i would feel fine helping a cat and i left Mayhew in tears, not sure why feeling guilty that i have taken the cabin space which another cat could have used or crying because i felt guilty leaving her there or that she is going to have abortion and its my fault :'( I know this world doesnt need any more kitten but i feel awful. Any how i signed her to them and she said they have to keep her for a week by law before having her neutured incase some one comes forward, if she gives birth in next 7 days then its fine if not she will be neutured. I made a donation at reception towards her treatment and left in flood of teares. Started walking down the road and decided to go to the cemetary which is few min from Mayhew and Sally is been buried i went and sat with her and had a good cry and now am back at home :'( :'( Sorry for going on and on, better go now my head in banging, i am just to sensetive when it comes to animals i shouldnt be doing this really. :(
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oh pav I'm so sorry they made you feel bad about this, cupcake is very lucky to have found you to fight her corner but you can't save the world you have done the right thing, I never would have taken willow if I had known how it would be :hug:
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Aw Pav. :hug: :hug:
Listen up. You have done a very caring thing. There is no way, the state Cupcake was in, that she would have had very much of a chance, especially raising a litter of kittens. Lord alone knows where she was staying when she wasn't using your garden.
Felicity and Mr Jingles are your cats, and your first priority is to them. They were not keen on Cupcake, and it wasn't practical for you to be able to look after a cat that would've just undergone surgery, when you're working and have your own cats to attend to.
Cupcake needs a bit of time and care spent on her, and now that they have her, they won't neglect her needs. They may have looked at you askance, but that's their affair - they cant deny she needed veterinary attention. If she does give birth within the next week, it will be in safety, and indoors. She wont be on the cadge for food, sometimes getting lucky, sometimes not. You wont be put under interminable pressure each time you see her, feeling that in some way she's your responsibility because you care.
You have sat and groomed that cat, ridding of her of the worst of the insect affliction she had, even feeling as you do about them. That alone was an act of love that little cat will have appreciated and make no mistake.
You can't fix the whole world Pav. You've done enough for now. :hug: :hug:
And I agree - had you taken her back home again without her having received attention at Mayhew, she may not have come back, after being in the cat carrier and then the taxi.
Do not - EVER - beat yourself up for caring. :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Pav Mayhew are so bad making you feel guilty because you care :hug: :hug: :hug:
Now she is there they will look after her and hopefully un derstand that she is a loving and wonderful little cat who so needs this chance.
Maybe they get hardened by all the cats they see but us as individuals do not and like you we all care desperately about every one.
Sue is right your two muct come first and you rescued them, I am sure Cupcake will be fine cos they have all the people that she needs to care for her.
Its so hard I know but never apologize for caring :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Thank you every one :hug: :hug: :hug:
I hope my post didnt come out wrong, i didnt do this to make me feel good its not about me but i thought knowing she is safe and cared for shouldnt make me feel so guilty, not sure how to explain :-[
I meant well and honestly thought she is in a bad state but i guess they see worse cases than her everyday.
I understand rescue world is different, they get hardened . They cant offord to waste any time or money for that matter but i was being naive thinking she would have a c section when the time comes . Pick and snip just felt a bit cold to me :( But then i remember a while back when i was there i saw a tiny kitten behind the reception so i asked the girl in reception why she is shaved on the side and how old was she, which she replied 4 weeks old and been neutured. I have no doubt
that Cupcake will be looked after well , end of the day if i had waited couple of more weeks then she would have become heavily pregnant. TBH i just didnt know Mayhew have them neutured while pregnant and when the cattery girl said she is too young and it would kill her she went on saying she will lose them and i asked why you dont think she make the full pregnancy? She said no she'll be neutered, it came as a shock.
They are going to keep the name Cupcake and they put her age 6-9 months :Luv2: Bless her.
Now any one knows a good cleaner in London :evillaugh: My flat is going to need a deep spring clean, Mr Jingle and Felicity are both scratching and shaking their heads , its no point of treating them unless the flat is flea free is it?
Thank you every one for being so kind, i will go and visit her next week .
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No your post didnt come out wrong we all understand :hug: :hug: :hug:
If you think you may have an infection a deep clean will not help but stronghold on both cats and indorex spray of all rooms will do it.
Suspect you can get indorex online cheeper than vets and if you need a stronghold for each cat I can send you them.......just let me know :hug: :hug:
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Bless you Pav! You did right by this little girl, she is as deserving of a rescue place as any other. I remember how you came to get Mr Jingles and nursed him to health, you have to put him and Felicity first.
I know it is upsetting to think of the kittens being terminated - but what kind of chance would they have had if Cupcake had managed to carry them to term in the wild? It's hard, but the fact is that there are already too many unwanted kittens around :'(
You have done your absolute best, and much more than many would have done under these circumstances, please try not to beat yourself up over it :hug:
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Well done, Pav. She's safe and sound in rescue, her unwanted pregnancy will not kill her and she's probably having the best night's sleep she's ever experienced.
Don't worry about Mayhew, they don't know you so may be suspicious of any person with good intentions actually being someone abandoning their own pet.
If you fear they may doubt you, Pav, just show them this thread, they will understand who you are and the goodness you represent.
We love you, what you do is above and beyond and the little lives you save are so important. Bless you. :hug: :hug:
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Gill, thank you so much for the offer but i have Frontline combo which is quite good , dont have indorex but have stay kill not sure if is as good but am not up to doing the whole flat and moving furniture and deep hoover afterwards, had a fall couple of weeks ago coming out of shower early morning was tired the fllor wet and slipped ended up all black and blue and had to go to A&E had awful pain on my side and was told crack ribs since then my back is been even worse so was serious about needing a cleaner to do the flat. I sort some thing next week will keep brushing my guys.
Slugsta, i agree with toomany unwanted cats/kittens :( Is just i was so concern not to use anything on Cup cake not to harm the kittens also i dont get it we are always told not to feed our cats from the night before op but she said with pick and snip they will have her nutured this morning so it doesnt apply to strays!
Sheila, i dont think she thought it was my cat it was just she got the impression Cup cake was heavily pregnant me saying she has a big tummy but then surely 6-9 months kitten being pregnant is as urgent? Yes the rescue officer didnt know me but when started taking my details she said oh we have you in our system which i replied yes i have been supporting Mayhew for 25 years now and the lady in reception who also worked in fundraising recognized my name as i sponsor the cat cabins in memory of dd . Any how Mayhew is been special place as i have Phoebe and Millie's ashes in their garden . Funny enough few years back i was asked if i would like to help with their home checks which i declined, i knew is not for me.
Any how , you are right . Main thing is she is in a safe place and the girls working in cattery are amazing she will get all the fuss and nice warm bed. Its done now and in few weeks she will feel like a different cat.
I just hope Felicity and Mr Jingles take pitty on me and come in early tonight. All i want now is to go to bed and have a good night sleep, wishful thinking ;) :evillaugh:
Sheila, i wish you and oh a wonderful trip and great time. :hug:
Nite Nite , hope every one have a good weekend. :hug: :hug: x
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So sorry to hear about the fall Pav and I would have sprayed and vacumed but not touched the furniture :innocent: just let indorex do its job.
Sending loads of cuddles to Felicity, Mr Jingles and you :hug: :hug: :hug:
I am sure that Cupcake will be great and loved to bits by all that have contact with her.
Hope you are slowly recovering :hug: :hug:
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Thank you Gill :hug: :hug: :hug:
Woke up to rain this morning and was so glad she is not out there getting soaked and Sue you are so right it was putting me under pressure and feeling of enormous guilt having to leave her out there. My two didnt want to go out so went back to bed with a big smile knowing she is in a nice , warm bed now .
Then remembered i left my cat carrier , i should have waited for them to settle Cupcake to a cabin and take my carrier but i walked out being so upset, well another good reason to go back now :naughty:
Last night while waiting for Felicity to come in i went on Mayhew site cats for re homing and there is this cat called Taurus :Luv2: :Luv2: OMG he is sooo gorgeous i fall in love :Luv:
Not sure how to put the link but if you have a secongd just have a look at their site. :hug: :hug:
Very windy out there but the sun is out , so i told the cats lets be happy and spend some time in the garden. Have a great day every one.
Rosella i hope you and Bobby had a peaceful night :hug:
Gill, you are in my thoughts :hug:
Dawn sending gentle hugs for Amber. :hug:
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The weather is awful here Pav and has been since last night, thank you :hug: :hug:
To add a link you copy the address from the bar at top and then paste it where you are typing ;D
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Oddly enough Pav, I'd been checking out the Mayhew, and of course looking at the cats for adoption (as you do) and I spotted Taurus too - I can see exactly why he has appeal for me you and I suspect Gill too - Gill, here's the link for Taurus:
http://themayhew.org/cats/taurus/
Glad you will get to go back for your carrier - and of course enquire how Cupcake is doing. :Luv:
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Aww Sue thank you and Benji , isnt he adorable :Luv2: I thought of you when i saw him :hug:
Gill is been pouring down here too and windy, def a day to stay in :)
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:evillaugh: :evillaugh: Oh Pav, sweetheart - you know me too well, too well..... :hug: :hug: I had indeed been eyeing Benji admiringly :shy:
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Yes he is adorable :Luv2: :Luv2:
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Ouchy Pav! I'm sorry to hear about your fall and cracked ribs, I will :hug: you very gently.
Isn't Taurus handsome?! I love his back nose! :Luv2:
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I went to see Cup cake today :Luv2: Good news is that she wasnt pregnant ;D But they said she was riddled in fleas, ticks and all sorts :sick:
She is a munchkin cat :Luv: :Luv: because of her short legs the tummy seemed bigger than it was, any how now she is free of insects and worms and all the nasties. Her coat looked lovely and soft.
I got to spend little time with her, first she growled at me and then was her usuall friendly. She has been neutured and after having her vaccinations will be put up for rehoming. Managed to take few pics not very good as i was in the cabin with her and she kept moving.I kissed her little head and wished her a Happy life in a great home :)
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Aw Pav - you're an angel. Had been wondering whether or not you'd been able to get back to fetch your carrier and get an update. Lovely to learn that she's now soft and fluffy and beautiful, as she should have been. What magic you work :hug: :hug: Here's to a cracking good home for her, with someone who will love and care for her and treasure what a special cat she is. :Luv:
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Well done Pav da best :gold stars:
She is a beauty and no mistake so hopefully won't be long before she finds a loving home :crossed:
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Thank you Sue, the two lady who work in cattery have been there for years and they are just amazing. I was standing there today watching them and thought they are angels :)
I didnt get my carrier back though , they just couldnt find it. probably being used for transporting ferals. My own fault no one else ;)
Happy ending for this little one, Thank you all for your advice and support. :hug: :hug:
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Thank you Rosella, i was told she will be snapped up :) She is friendly and good with other cats.
Cant wait to see her on Mayhew rehoming page, she looked lonely and bored in that cabin.
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she really is lovely, I'm sure she won't wait long well done Pav, she couldn't have done it without you
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Dawn, Thank you so much :hug:
Thinking of you :hug: :hug: :hug:
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I would like your opininon please.
There is a feral boy which i have been feeding now for a while and the animal well fare officer at Mayhew suggested to do a TNR. The only problem here is that he visits every day after 5pm and the officer wants to come and set the trap early afternoon and leave to come back morning after to collect him. But i am not comfortable to leave a cat in a trap for over night out there. She said he would be fine in back garden but i dont like the idea of him being there for 14-15 hours. :(
What do you think i should do? Here is a picture of him waiting for his food.
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My personal opinion is the same as your Pav.
Cupcake a munchkin, she will definately be snapped up and must have had a home at some point, she is gorgeous.
Well done Pav and so pleased the mayhew took her and got rid of all the nastys :hug: :hug:
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Cupcake is a real beauty! She has the chance of a loving home - thanks to you Pav, your a real star :star1:
That does sound like a long time for your feral to be in a cage but I don't have any suggestions as to how to reduce it. I'm afraid :-[
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Thank you Gill and Slugsta :hug: :hug:
He came around for his food this afternoon and i noticed a wound on his back it looked sore and bloody not sure how deep though, i tried to get close to check but he just hissed and left his food running away. :( Not sure whats best to do for him?
Well i am off to watch Super vet , did any one watched last week when he put Manuka Honey on the infected area of the little dog from Thiland , how amazing ;D
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Cupcake a munchkin, she will definately be snapped up and must have had a home at some point, she is gorgeous.
Gill, my thought exactly, but i didnt get any respond to the posters i put up and the paper collor but then its possible she got out and lost!But then why wasnt she chipped, or neutured. Being a munchkin maybe the owner wanted to breed her! I guess we'll never know. I still wonder who put the old collor on her? I just hope i didnt take some one's much loved pet to a rescue.
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Stop worrying Pav, if she was much loved she would have been chipped at least and certainly not in the state she was. Any owner who muched loved her would have been looking for her.
If she escaped and took a trip she must have been lost for quite a while and the main point is that she is safe now and also neutered and well and will have a great home very soon ;D ;D
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Pav, I agree with Gill - it doesnt sound like she was someone's much loved pet, truly she didn't - which was a crying shame as she's a beautiful little thing. And had she been someone's much loved pet, it was clear her circumstances had changed and she'd fallen on hard times. I guess any one of us can be someone's "much loved" at some point in our lives, but it doesnt mean that we'll always remain so. Life - and death - often has other ideas for us. :hug: :hug: Anyway, whatever the philosophy of it, she's now warm, cared for, infestation free and has a very good chance of getting a loving home again.
Compared to living rough, hungry and being bitten to hell and back, that's got to be an improvement in her young life.
With regard to the little feral boy, I have to admit I dont like the idea of him being in a trap that long. Would it be possible to try and trap him over the weekend, if the trap could be checked sooner perhaps?
And sorry you didnt get your carrier back, but it sounds ike it's gone to a good cause..... :innocent:
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It's puzzling, her having an old collar put on her Pav but no more than that. To be perfectly honest I couldn't give a hoot whether someone professed to love her or not.
..... now she is free of insects and worms and all the nasties.
The infestation of various insects speaks volumes and she is now safe, warm, well fed and has every chance of being rehomed with someone who will take proper care of her.
Well done Pav :wow:
As to the stray black fella :Luv2: I also think 14 to 15 hours in a trap seems a long time. I wonder, if you didn't feed him one evening, he might turn up the following morning?
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Thank you every one :hug: :hug: You are so right i worry too much :-[ Any how i went on line kast night on lost pets uk site and searched but there were no munchkin cat was reported lost and also searched for munchin cats in uk there were few for sale one looked identical to her a Persian munchkin :Crazy: but she was in Norfolk! So next time you hear me talking about her will be when she goes up for re-homing ;)
Thank you Rosella, yes it could work not feeding him in the evening , as i said he run away yesterday not eating his food when i tried to get close but then i saw him out around 10pm looking for food. Gosh it seems i am on cat watch every min of my life :innocent: I have left a message for Mayhew and thats what i am going to do so hopefully they can drop the trap to me and i set it early morning.
Sue , unfortunatly the officer has to come and pick him up once in trap and she finishes at 5, and their clinic is closed on weekends. Finger crossed the wound is not deep and he is not in too much pain poor boy :(
Sorry have to rush am so late, not a good day today not only is Mister anniversary but also this morning i saw Felicity cross the road :( Its the first time ever she has crossed the road it was 6 am i called her and she came back but this is not good where shegoes Mr Jingles follow and up to now my only peace of mind was that they dont cross ourroad but now :'( I just cant live with constant worry.Cant stop crying and have a meeting in an hour.
Thank you every one. :hug: :hug: :hug:
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I sometimes wonder whether I am cut out for running this cat hotel too Pav :hug: It seems if it's not one thing, it's another. I do sympathise :hug: :hug:
Best of luck with the stray fella :crossed:
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Oh Pav. I so understand what that means to you, and how much anxiety is has caused, let alone in terms of timing. Sending you a big hug :hug: :hug:
Rosella - seldom a more true sentiment expressed. It always seems like the minute we relax our guard for an instant.... :( :(
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just a thought Pav - would it work if you took Felicity, and then Mr Jingles, on a harness to the edge of the road, and waited there with them until cars had rushed past, in the hope of frightening them?
I have a major country road outside my house, which isn't that busy but the cars do go at some speed, and when I first moved here I did that with my cat Tum-Tum, and in her eight remaining years here I never saw her go on that road
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Lupin went in front garden in his walking jacket and hated the traffic.
Sasa once was scared by another cat and s aw her sitting in the school opposite it was very late at night and way before I could touch her.
I rushed downstairs and into middle of road and called her and to my relief she rushed across
but into a garden 2 doors up..end of story is that she legged it back to my wall and did an up and over and has never gone out the front again.
Sending you all my thoughts pav for Mister :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Pav :hug: anniversaries are hard :(
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Oh Thank you every one :hug: I am sorry but just cant concentrate tonigt. I will come back and post on weekend and reply to every one's post. :hug:
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Cup cake is on Mayhew re-homing page ;D
Mayhew is droping a trap on Wednesday morning to me , i am going to try and trap the feral boy and take him to my own vet as Mayhew is booked for next 2 weeks for traping ferals :-: Not looking forward to do traping :scared:
Thank you Kay, not sure if it works for my two as they are both terrified of people and traffic . They sit outside watching the road and if there is a car or bike driving fast or make any noise they run towards the back as for people if some one even stop to talk to them they run for their lives! But then early morning its quiet out there , i hate this time of the year its too much happening out there birds are just too tempting :(
I have been up since 4 this morning , every day is the same and am starting to wonder why do i stay up till they come in, after all i was here when both Millie and Mister had the accident and in spite of me getting them to my vet straight away neither of them made it :'( I might as well open the flap and let Felicity and M Jingles come and go as they like . Saying all this i am going to order two harness and do what you suggested. Thank you :hug:
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Would ya just look at Cupcake :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
http://themayhew.org/cats/cupcake/
...... i hate this time of the year its too much happening out there birds are just too tempting :( .......... after all i was here when both Millie and Mister had the accident and in spite of me getting them to my vet straight away neither of them made it :'( I might as well open the flap and let Felicity and M Jingles come and go as they like .
Oh Pav, so often ... you take the words right out of my mouth. Like you, we try to cut down the opportunities for accidents. With us we get them in at around 6am for breakfast. Most settle down for a grooming sesh and a sleep but we lock the babies up till 9am; yes I know Boris and Bobby are 3 years old now but ... We work on the basis that 6 till 9 is the "rush hour" traffic wise but it's a narrow awkward road with lots of parked cars so people don't tend to use it as a rat run so much any more. Still, the parked cars hide alot from view and the three Bs (including Billy) sadly love going across the road to the other side of the Spinney. You just do what you can :hug:
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She is such a pretty little cat - Pav, you should feel rightly proud seeing her now up for adoption, and I'm sending shedloads of positive vibes that not only will she get her new home, but that she'll be so well taken care of and loved, just as she should be. :hug: :hug:
Rosella, summed up so well, and I was about to say something similar. We've lost ours around 7 in the morning, and around 7 in the evening, and I also hate this time of year for that reason - as you say Pav - so much going on for them of interest outside. I hadnt realised until this last two years, how much I unconsciously took for granted with our lovely Padmeister - his "sensible genes" bless his heart.
Our old house had a busy main road at its foot, and a busy metro line to it's head, and he managed to cultivate the good sense to keep himself safe. This house has green fields and wide open spaces a plenty, and we've still lost two in as many years.
We do what we can, hope for the best and fear the worst. :(
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My feeling for what its worth is, that if they are scared of traffic and people putting them on a lead and taking them to it might desensifiy them and do the opposite of what you want.
They may think you are trying to get them to like the traffic!
I am sure Cupcake will be snapped up ;D ;D
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Cupcake is such a beauty! I'm sure she will find a lovely home soon, she is not the kind that is likely to be hard to place.
Pav :hug: I can't say anything that will make you feel better, I know. Mr S doesn't understand why I hate Alfs being out for too long, especially late in the evening. I'm much happier with the cat-flap locked after 7pmish. We live near the top of our road and there is a busy dual-carriageway up htere, the cars come off it so fast, I hate to hear them.
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Hi , thanks every one. :hug:
Sue, thank you for asking about the feral boy on A-Team thread. Mayhew officer is droping the trap at 9.30 this morning so any min now. If all goes to plan and he turns up this eve before 7 and get in to trap then my vet has agreed to keep him in over night and treat his injuries in the morning , i also booked him to be neutured at the same time but my vet said we do that if its appropriate?! Dont know what that means.
Finger crossed he turns up, i am really rubbish with trapping i panic and also hate seeing them once trap shuts and they panic but am concern with his sore back looks raw :(
I will update if i manage to catch him.
Thank you :hug: :hug:
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Can fully understand that it's as traumatic trapping a cat for you as it is for the cat. :doh: :hug:
I wonder if the vet means if they check him for a microchip? If so, they may try to make contact with the registered address before making any decision as to neutering. I guess that's probbaly their reasoning, anyroad. Will have fingers well and truly crossed all goes smoothly. :hug: :hug:
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I wonder if vet means he has to be healthy enough for the op? I panic about scruffing Billy for the vet Pav so well understand your reservations about trapping :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Pav, I hope that all goes well with the TNR :hug:
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Thank you every one but the officer didnt turn up , after waiting out side for 25 min and 5 phone call to her office and Mayhew reception i was told that it may be that she is stock in heavy traffic and i should just wait for her but i had to leave for work.Had a message from her on my answering later on the day to say she was sorry but had a difficult traping and it took long! Am disappointed as i had every thing organised the vet, boarding over night , leaving work early and sleepless night worrying how he reacts and now the vet is fully booked on Friday and next week i am starting a new project, so long hours mean i wont be able to get here before vet closing time.
Mayhew message was to give them a call to arrange new time but my aim was to get him to vet asap as i am concern about the wound, thats the reason i suggested if they provide the trap i will take him and cover all costs but it seems i have to ask them to put him on their waiting list now and see what happens :(
Sorry just really upset about him , breaks my heart seeing him with this big sore on his back but he is still eating.I got back early and there he was sitting in the rain right out side my window waiting :'(
Off to watch super vet :-:
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Pav would your vet give you something like Synulox tablets that could be crushed on his food would help with the infection also comes in a suspension form which can also be put on wet food
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Thanks Liz but this vet wouldnt , last time i poped in to buy some Frontline Combo i was told they need to see one of the cats as their last visit was over 6 months ago, i managed to buy some as i had the black stray neutured there few weeks back . My old vet would have , i remember they gave me meds when i was going to Bolivia. I explained to them it was a sanctuary and there were certain meds they could really do with and the vet was happy to let me have them.
I do have some Synulox tablet but its expired.
Does any one have any spare one or could get some from their vets please, i am happy to pay for the tablets and postage. I think it would really help him.
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Thats a real pain Pav cos was going to suggest the same as Liz.
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Oh Pav - things are seldom straight forward, are they? You must be feeling so frustrated and not a little disappointed. Poor little feral guy. :( Try not to take this too much onto yourself Pav. You're doing everything you can - you can't do it all. :hug:
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I have some noroclav left over from amber if that would help
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Pav pm me your address I have a bottle of the liquid one unopened and its well in date - my vet is brilliant I just ask for spare things and they give them to me with having a transient outside feal population over the summer do like to be prepared for whatever they might need
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Thanks Gill, Sue :hug:
Dawn i am not sure about Noroclav, does any one know if it helps?
Liz , thank you so much. I am going to pm you right now. I am ever so grateful. Would you let me know how much to use and how often please?
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Noroclav and Synulox are the same base antibiotic so the tablets would be a good fall back as well as they crush up just fine
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I managed to get some pics , couldnt get too close but i think it shows the sore on his back.
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Poor chap!
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the good thing though is that a wound in such a place is not going to get contaminated with faeces, or soil, and is completely open to the air, which is the best healer
the biggest danger is flies laying their eggs in the wound, but this colder weather makes that less likely at the moment
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Poor boy and hope the donated abs arrive soon cos its much warmer in London than here
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He's lovely, Pav, but yes - that's quite a sore on his back. Poor little furbabe.
Liz, that's really kind of you, too. :hug:
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Liz, got the Synulox this morning. Thank you :hug:
I managed to give him 0.5 ml in his meal this afternoon but not sure if i could give him 2 times daily as instructed, he visits once a day! Should i give him bigger dose or for longer maybe?
I noticed he has more fur missing , i am wondering if i should give him a Milbemax once finished his course of antibiotic?
Thank you :hug:
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Anything new from Mayhew, Pav?
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Glad they arrived maybe notch up to 6 but no more and it should be ok to give Panacur granules in the food rather than a tablet if he is hungry he will eat the wet food
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No Sheila, thanks for asking but he is on the waiting list :-: And Cup cake still there, tempted to go and adopt her myself :sneaky:
Liz, thank you i gave him 0.6 yesterday. Its easier to go with tablets than granules. He loves raw chicken so i could always hide the tab inside . :hug:
Modify, to say Cup cake is in chosen by adopter section ;D
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Great news about CupCake ;D , I do hope that there will soon be a happy outcome for this little lad.
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Great news about Cupcake and hope the boys injury gets better with abs :hug: :hug:
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Pav, you are brilliant :hug:
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Pav, you are brilliant :hug:
I'll second that! :summer flowers:
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How's your little injured boy, Pav?
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How's your little injured boy, Pav?
Thanks for asking after him , Sue :hug:
I followed Liz instruction with Synulox and all is looking good now, and the fur is growing . :) I have noticed his got more fur missing under his neck but no sore so wondering if its flea allergies?
Liz, thank you so much for the Synulox and helping me help this little man :hug:
Had a call from Mayhew last week, new guy asking if he is still around and if they could drop the trap ? Which I replied yes am sure we could arrange a time but then he went on saying we'll have him in do the blood test first and if he is negative for FIV then we have him neutered and drop back morning after. And if he is positive I asked! He will be PTS being feral , he replied :( :( I said I will get back to him as keeping him over night in a trap is not an option so I have to change his feeding time :-: But I am not going to :innocent: I know some people might disagree but I don't believe in having a cat PTS if FIV positive feral or not. I am aware being feral is impossible to home him but then surely after neutering he would calm down and wont get in to fights so why not just release him back?
He used to visit once a day eat and leave but lately he stay around even sit and wash him self after meal , some days he visits twice and even followed me and my guys the other day in to the back garden and sat there watching me playing with Mr Jingles :Luv2: He even come to window now days and cries to let me know he is waiting so I have decided to trap him my self and get him to my vet have him neutered and released, he can always move in with us if he chooses to :Luv: He is not aggressive towards my two and neighbour cat OTTO. Mr Jingles and Felicity are happy around him, so all I need to do is to have the trap sorted and wait for my next day off in July! Finger crossed :)
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I totally agree with you Pav, putting FIV cats to sleep is way behind the times.
Good luck with catching him and yes of course you are so right about neutering.
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So pleased he is fitting in and agree with you and Gill regarding PTS :hug:
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Pav, how about we club together and buy you a trap for him? I think you are very caring and spot on about the FIV. You all know my feelings on the subject and Mayhew need to look at the Celia Hammond research.
Are you sure about introducing him to the furry equilibrium though? It's a bold step and if he's doing ok outside miss Felicity and Mr Jingles might be happier if he stays outside. :shify:
My vet would do a neuter for me with no question of Pts (my vet supports FIV but not Felv) so long as we could honestly state he had been advertised as a stray for 7 days (the legal minimum). If you post a pic on Purrs and send it by email to your local vets, that is enough. After a week you can assume ownership and have him neutered, chipped, etc.
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Thank you Gill, Alison :hug: :hug:
Sheila, thank you so much for the offer but honestly I don't have any room in my place to keep a trap :-[ I am sure I can convince Mayhew to lend me one as it was planned and arranged for them to drop me one and I do the trapping and neutering but they were late on the day and I had to leave for work. I had him booked with my vet and explained he was feral , the vet was happy to treat his injuries and said he would neuter if appropriate . I make sure to clear with him NO PTS. To be on the safe side I will e mail his picture to all local vets, thanks for the advice :hug:
I have seen FIV cats on Mayhew re homing site number of times, and thought they have changed their policy . Years ago when MR TRAMP used to visit I asked if they would have him neutered and release him back for me to look after him and was told being feral if positive he would be pts :( I didn't go through with it but that was almost 8 years ago. :-:
MR Jingles and Felicity are relaxed around him outside , I wonder being a full Tom is the reason. Mr Jingles seems fascinated , while he is eating Mr J is behind him sniffing his tail and back :evillaugh: He is not bothered at all . TBH it was just a thought I think he is doing ok out and I wont take him in if it upsets my two , I can always make an out door shelter for him. This is him Nelson before his injury :)
Thank you every one :hug:
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Nelson is lovely ;D
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Oooo Nelson looks so lovely. Am with you all regarding the FIV - I think Celia Hammond's views are pragmatic, born of experience and an acceptance that you have to change what you can and co-exist with what you can't - not necessarily destroy what you can't improve.
I would say if you can ultimately trap and neuter Nelson, you can let the cats decide themselves whether or not he will be accepted into your family, whether that be as an outside boy or an indoors/outdoors boy. It seems to be a very encouraging sign that so far they've taken to him without much fuss. :Luv: :hug: :hug:
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I just had to share this, yesterday was very wet out here and no car out side to put Nelson's food under :-: I thought I take the food out once I see him . Am coming out of the kitchen and there he is in my sitting room helping him self to food ;D He must have waited out side and got bored , no sign of me so he helped him self coming in through the open window. I was delighted.
This evening after his meal he just sat there watching us so I wondered if he knows how to play :) Oh yes he loved the Lazore toy. here is some pics .
Sue, his coat looks great now and healed beautifully, Thanks to Liz. :hug: :hug:
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Lovely news and pic Pav ;D
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He's looking great Pav and is he going to be number 3 :innocent:
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Alison, Thank you :hug:
Liz, there is always room for no 3 ;)
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Am hoping he becomes No 3 too - three mouseketers are a more natural number than 2 ;) ;D
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A number 3 may help Mr J and Felicty ;D
Wonderful that he came in to eat
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Gill makes a good point, as a third cat may well provide the rumbunctuous playmate that Mr Jingles wants, or a quiet companion that Miss felicity can roll her eyes at and go "so glad we're not like that"
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Thanks Gill, Sue yes my thoughts too he needs a young male play mate but last night after play time with Lazore toy I came in and left them out ,only a bit later thought I go and check on them that's what I do all night :-: only to find Mr J the other side of the road , he followed Nelson but thankfully didn't jump on garage roof to go with him :doh:
This morning I had a plumber coming to service my saniflo , I called him to say once you are here I open the door and you must rush in so the cats don't get out ! Once arrived he said but why don't you want them out I explained they were out at 4 this morning but they have to stay in while am at work reason am paranoid with the road. He replied but the road still there even when you are in and they are out. He has got a point any thing can happen to them while I am here I just am making my life difficult may be next year once they are both older I open the flap and give the 24/7 access :(
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Pav, we all find a system that we can live with regarding cats being indoor or outdoor, you do what feels right and never mind what anyone else says :hug: It's lovely to see Nelson getting on so well.
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Pav, we all find a system that we can live with regarding cats being indoor or outdoor, you do what feels right and never mind what anyone else says :hug: It's lovely to see Nelson getting on so well.
Exactly my thoughts. We have to find ways to live with the choices available to us. They're seldom 100% ideal, but we do what we can within our limits to keep them safe - I would say that's particularly true of you Pav, who have room in your heart and your overcoat pocket for so many waifs and strays. :hug:
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I think you are doing exactly right Pav,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,a strangers logic is not always right