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Cat General => General Cat Chat => Topic started by: sheryl on August 26, 2008, 12:01:10 PM
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Zooplus are out of stock of Orijen again and are not expecting it to be sent from Canada until 29th. I have ordered from the site that Mark posted a while ago (cant remember the name) it is more expensive but I have orderded loads of the 400g bags so it doesnt work out too bad.
Next time Zooplus get their stock I thinkk I will just order 4 or 5 bags because they seem to keep running out of stock and my furbabies really do not approve.
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tell Mark to stop recommending it - I nearly got some last time, if I didn't already have 10kg of hills and 9lg of RC I probably would!
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Its the only dry food that agrees with the Bengly Bums Dawn so I really cant afford to run out :rofl:
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oh dear, I know what that is like! Luckily Tilly seemed to grow out of bengal bum but had to have rc sensible for about 6 months
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It was only about a month ago they ran out of big bags and Angie had to buy small bags :Crazy:
It doesn't go off that quickly so why can't they keep a decent stock? :Crazy:
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Phew! got 3 big bags delivered last week! ;D
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so Angie's got it! Do they email you when things come back in stock?
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I know Mark it is really annoying, last time they ran out they still had the small (2.5kg) bags but this time they have completely run out of all sizes. I have emailed Orijen and told them that I am not happy.
I will let you know what this other supplier is like because TBH even though they are more expensive if their service is better I may switch to them because Zooplus are a bit of a pain at the moment - they charged me twice for my last order which took 2 weeks to arrive and I am still waiting for a refund >:(
You can request to ne notified via Email Dawn, trouble is if they dont get much stock it is nearly all sole before it even arrives.
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I think the other seller must get large stocks as they have a section for Trade Enquiries. Maybe rescue prices?
It's annoying as a few weeks ago, their price was £12 somthing then it shot up to £16 something. Their kilo rate on small bags is cheaper than zooplus for medium so best to buy loads. You have to buy 13.5kg (I think) to get free delivery. I just wished they did clumping litter :evillaugh:
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so Angie's got it! Do they email you when things come back in stock?
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She only buys the 7kg bags unless they are out of stock :evillaugh:
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Thats the size I normally buy too but I have ordered loads of the little bags to keep me going. I have been looking for an alternative dry food (no cereals etc) but as yet have not been able to find one :( anyone got any ideas ?
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Zooplus had this problem with Timberwolf a couple of years ago. It took them ages to get it re-stocked because they had problems with their supplier. Also they were the only ones that stocked Timberwolf :doh:
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I do apologise. I had no idea that the 2 400g packs I received from them this morning were the last in stock :sneaky: I'm terribly torn between offering to share :hug: and :nerner: What to do, what to do?
C.
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ok - so who's got my missing 400g bags of orijen that have gone missing? Does anyone here work for parcelforce? ;)
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zooplus have not responded to my email asking them for the tracking number for my last parcel that has gone awol. I think I'm unlikely to ever see that one :(
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http://www.catanddogtreats.co.uk/acatalog/organic_cat_food.html
My Orijen from the above site arrived this moning 13 x 400g bags :rofl:
I ordered it on Monday evening and it arrived this morning - now thats what I call service, it is more expensive than Zooplus but TBH I am getting a bit fed up with their :censored: service so might stick with this new supplier for my Orijen.
If anyone needs Orijen at the moment I would highly reccomend this company.
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I do apologise. I had no idea that the 2 400g packs I received from them this morning were the last in stock :sneaky: I'm terribly torn between offering to share :hug: and :nerner: What to do, what to do?
C.
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I do apologise. I had no idea that the 2 400g packs I received from them this morning were the last in stock :sneaky: I'm terribly torn between offering to share :hug: and :nerner: What to do, what to do?
C.
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I reckon you have my (or rather Mosi's) packs :P
I'm rather fed up with zooplus too but it is the only place where I can get everything I need in one delivery. I simply can't order litter from one place, food from different places etc as I end up having to take a day off work to be in for every delivery. Until this last time, parcelforce very kindly left my zooplus deliveries outside my door, meaning that I didn't need to take time off work, but now seem to have stopped doing that :(
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I did get the trial Orijen packs from ZP but, if I decide to stick with Orijen, I will get my local petshop man to get it in for me. He may initially seem more expensive but he gets in everything I need, delivers when I want him to, knows to leave stuff with my neighbours if ever I am not around (like when I am spending an unplanned 20 mins stuck at signals enjoying the view at Swanley :tired:). He doesn't charge for delivery and once that's taken into account, he's not much more expensive than ZP (I do realise that ZP is free delivery over £29 but I tend to need different things at different times and rarely spend over £29 in one go). I'm only mentioning all this in case ordering from the local pet shop might be a better solution for some of you guys.
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My local Pet Shops cantget the Orijen unfortunately - it would be great of they could. :(
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I doubt if your local petshop will be able to get it as there are there is only one UK importer - www.catanddogtreats.co.uk
I wish they sold litter etc as you have to order 15kg to get free delivery. I suppose I wouldn't mind ordering 2 x 7.5kg at a time but will have to find an airtight container as a bag would be open for a couple of months.
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I'm so tempted to try this orijen (if I can get it!) trouble is I've got 19kg of other brands in the cupboard! I want to try bozita as well for Amber, she is getting fussier and fussier and has started only eating dry which I really don't want
on the litter front Mark, the extreme classic seems to clump well
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I doubt if your local petshop will be able to get it as there are there is only one UK importer - www.catanddogtreats.co.uk
I wish they sold litter etc as you have to order 15kg to get free delivery. I suppose I wouldn't mind ordering 2 x 7.5kg at a time but will have to find an airtight container as a bag would be open for a couple of months.
Oh bum! Nothing's ever easy is it?
Dawn F - I have cupboards full of other types of food as well. If I ever get Dot stable on one food I swear I'll donate the rest to a rescue.
C.
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The older Benglies were on Orijen for about 2 weeks and tummies completely sorted when all else failed, Orijen is really convenient because I have got the 2 baby Bengals and 2 over a year plus 2 moggies and they can all eat the same biccies with no problems.
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I have half a bag left that Beavis has decided he didnt like! :tired:
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I have decided to hold-fire until the fish one is in stock - in the meantime they will have to make do with RC :evillaugh:
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Beavis currently has a choice of Origen , Rc , Hills , Joe and Jills and Purina 7+. :evillaugh:
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We have RC, Slimness, RC Active, RC outdoor 10+, RC sensitive 32(?), RC prescription sensitive, Tesco enhanced nutrition, PAH Light chicken :Crazy:
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the light RC they all go crazy for (apart from Tilly, she likes the feel of flesh!) its becoming a bit of issue really because Amber is now eating Stars food instead of her own, I don't want two that will only eat dry - fussy mare has gone off oh so fishy now and only eats the cod flavour of whiskas in jelly, won't touch almo nature or applaws so I might try bozita but am not supposed to be buying anything cat related until pay day in October
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The littlies will eat literally anything , but Beavis is getting fussier as he gets older! Hes on Felix AGAIL atm , with the odd pouch of perles thrown in.
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Orijen back in stock at Zooplus, folks ;D
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nooooooooo what about my self imposed no cat shopping ban!!!
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The 7kg bags are still oit if stock and according to the write up could be 21days >:(
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You've all got me so curious about this mystical must have Orijen that I've been and ordered some this very second(2.5kg bag). And some Bozita. And a rustle tunnel. :doh: You lot are a bad influence!
Oh and I ordered a Da Bird earlier.
Beans on toast for me this month then.................
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I am even more determined to change mine over to it completely after reading up on Red Flag ingredients in commercial food. ie meat byproducts can include rendered cat & dog and even the drug that was used to euthanise :sick:
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You've all got me so curious about this mystical must have Orijen that I've been and ordered some this very second(2.5kg bag). And some Bozita. And a rustle tunnel. :doh: You lot are a bad influence!
Oh and I ordered a Da Bird earlier.
Beans on toast for me this month then.................
I did the very same. I hope it lives up to the hype as nutritionally it makes sense!
I bought Da bird a few weeks ago and the first time I brought it out he went crazy, making all these squeeky chattering noises. He still likes to play with it but it seems to be getting a bit passe for him.
Mind you his favourite toy is a black plastic stick - Don't ask! :shocked:
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I am holding fire until the fish one is available and will order some of each from www.catanddogtreats.co.uk . :)
Edit - maybe not, I just saw this "Tax Charges -
VAT at the standard rate of 17.5% will be added to all orders" >:(
I understand when ordering in business that net prices are shown but it is standard in this country to show gross prices - I don't like this at all >:(
I am not ordering from Zooplus any more as I am really peed off with them >:( Apart from all the aggravation of my last order, I sent in a review of Tigerino Nuggies 2 weeks ago and it still isn't showing. I think their reviews are fake and they only show the better ones. Susanne also sent in a negative review over a week ago and that isn't showing either. Had I seen an honest review of it, I never would have ordered it. Me and Zooplus are history :tired:
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Apart from all the aggravation of my last order, I sent in a review of Tigerino Nuggies 2 weeks ago and it still isn't showing. I think their reviews are fake and they only show the better ones. Susanne also sent in a negative review over a week ago and that isn't showing either. Had I seen an honest review of it, I never would have ordered it. Me and Zooplus are history :tired:
I have seen negative reviews of products on there so I don't think they are deliberately not showing poor reviews. But I do think they are a bit slow and incompetent in getting reviews put up. There is one review on there at the moment that mentions the poor clumping and says they are disappointed with it and wont' be buying it again.
I'm wondering whether they are having problems at the moment as they still havent' responded to my email regarding my missing order. They usually respond quicker than this when I email them. Are there any public holidays in Germany at the moment that might account for no-one being around?
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Edit - maybe not, I just saw this "Tax Charges -
VAT at the standard rate of 17.5% will be added to all orders" >:(
I understand when ordering in business that net prices are shown but it is standard in this country to show gross prices - I don't like this at all >:(
VAT rates vary across Europe, Mark, so a pan-European site is likely to quote VAT-exclusive prices? May even have to - I dont sell to consumers :shy:
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The Clan Cats haven't tried this yet so our 75kgs of biscuits ordered from Hills and Royal Canin today will have to do them!
mark we feed 10 kinds of RC, 6 Hills, plus James Wellbeloved, Purina and they even sometimes eat Whiskas, Gocat and Tesc's own but they prefer more expensive brands!
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I am even more determined to change mine over to it completely after reading up on Red Flag ingredients in commercial food. ie meat byproducts can include rendered cat & dog and even the drug that was used to euthanise :sick:
I have read articles saying that, but i believe either that is just in the US, or it is an old article and it has now been banned, i can't remember which. I know our industry is a lot stricter than US.
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Edit - maybe not, I just saw this "Tax Charges -
VAT at the standard rate of 17.5% will be added to all orders" >:(
I understand when ordering in business that net prices are shown but it is standard in this country to show gross prices - I don't like this at all >:(
Mark - I may be misunderstanding here but I have just looked on the dog and cat treats site and the price they are displaying for Orijen states that it is inclusive of VAT. Either they have had a swift change of views or I have got the wrong end of the stick (again) :Crazy:
C.
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So it does :Crazy:
Bad site I guess - If you look at the delivery section, then scroll down to Tax - it says tax is extra. If you hadn't pointed that out, I wouldn't have ordered from them.
Thanks :shy:
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Well, you seemed to want to use Orijen and nowt else and having fallen out with Zooplus, I couldn't see how else you were going to get the stuff, bar a trip to Canada.
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I will have to swallow my pride for the cats' sake I guess :Luv2:
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Catbird is right - the price is VAT-inclusive after all :thanks:
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Mark - you're male aren't you? Well then, never, ever, even in the face of what others like to term "evidence", admit you made a mistake - you can even say you learn't your technique from your cats. :evillaugh:
If it makes you feel any better, Dot is now eating Orijen because of you. She thanks you for rescuing her from a life of other wildly expensive "quality" cat foods. And so do I because so far no more explody-arse troubles.
C.
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If it makes you feel any better, Dot is now eating Orijen because of you. She thanks you for rescuing her from a life of other wildly expensive "quality" cat foods.
Blips Orijen was despatched on Friday (the day I ordered it :wow:) so, provided she takes to it, she will have Mark to thank as well :Luv:
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Some of us have been recommending Orijen on here for ages you know :P :P ;)
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I think you recommended it to me in the first place but I have been on a crusade with it since :evillaugh:
Waiting for the fish version to become available is like waiting for xmas :birth 2:
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Fancy taking up the baton for Animonda Carny, Mark? ;D
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I haven't tried it yet but if it is worthy, I will :evillaugh:
I still haven't seen a wet food with Psyllium, glucosamine or any other "goodies" in yet.
Edit - not convinced with their vague "byproducts" content :shify:
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HiLife Senior has glucosamine and chondroitin in it Mark - I could send you some as a sample seeing as I have two full boxes here that no one likes. Might have something else, but Mol has just dive on my knee
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Thanks Des - but I think it has pork in? - I stopped buying hi-life after my vet told me it is a no-no for cats.
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This is the new HiLife, typical ingredients are Chicken & x (depends which flavour, these ar Turkey, Lamb, Liver or Duck) in variable proportions, min 60%, Fish Oil, Vit and Min supplements, tapioca, Glucosamine, Chondroitin. Blurb says contains glucosamine and chondroitin, Antioxidant vit and mins, Fish Oils for Omega 3 & 6, no artificial colours, flavours or preservatives.
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Is it the type that has chunks of stringy chicken in? as I can't get them to eat that kind either :Crazy:
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It is rather odd looking, and it doesn't go down well here, which is a shame as Mol has a touch of arthritis and doesnt like Seraquin, and I like the thought of the Omega 3 and 6.
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I have tried all kinds of premium food that looks like chicken in jelly and all of them went untouched :Crazy:
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Shame, not sure if they do the fish selection in senior, I got this through the rescue Mabel came from, so it came from Batleys. Never seen it in the shops. Thinking about it, it isn't like some of the chicken in jelly types where it is stringy chicken in jelly, it is just different looking, hopefully someone else who has tried the new HiLife range can expand on this!!
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I'm surprised how many (decent) foods now contain glucosamine - even Tesco own premium dry has it - the adult as well as the senior.
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I have just ordered a 7kg bag of the blessed Orijen. Dot goes off Orijen in 3...2...1...
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C.
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You're not going to believe this but about an hour after I posted the last message, the world fell out of Dot's bottom AGAIN!!! :sick:
Can someone give me some advice about how long I should take in moving her from the RC prescription dicky tum food to the Orijen? I know it's hard to be precise but I have never had this problem with a cat before and would appreciate some rough guidelines.
Puuurrrrrleeeessse?
C.
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They always advise people to introduce any food slowly over a week or so by gradually adding the new food and reducing the old. I doubt there are any set rules. I never had much luck with RC sensitivity.
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Thanks Mark. The RC prescription stuff has been fine but I want to get her onto Orijen if I can. I did the changeover over the space of a week but I think I'll try it again but r e a l l y s l o w l y this time. Fingers crossed, eh.
C.
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I suppose that's all you can do - I'm sure it has to be better than any RC food?
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I'm sure it is... if only I can get it to stay in her long enough to do some good! :doh:
There's usally no shortage of wine bottle corks around Catbird Towers, maybe I'll utilise one of those. :shocked:
C.
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If the RC keeps her solid then stick with that, theres no point feeding a better food if she isnt digesting it all and gets stomach ache with it :shy:
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i would actually say food needs to be introduced over a minimum of 2 weeks, I think a week is too soon to do it properly. If RC is too expensive, I would try JWB, as it is a hypoallergenic food, and even the specialist OK'd it when Tiger had major stomach issues.
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Further trouble. Little Miss Picky now refuses to even look at RC prescription. :tired: I have stuck her back on RC Maine Coon for the moment - on the basis that she has to eat something and this is likely to be closer in constitution to the RC prescription than Orijen. She's perky, happy, drinking well and now eating and is currently snoozing on her "assistant" chair next to my desk. Healing vibes an' that please.
C.
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Alice has been squirting today as well. I will give her some canicur with her food later :Luv2:
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Is she eating Orijen too? What's that stuff you are giving her and where can I get some??? Poor old Dot-Dot is going about once every 2-3 hours at the moment, although it has slowed down slightly.
C.
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Is there something in the air so to speak! Got up this morning to three piles of sick and then did the tray a little while ago as on a half day and there were runny poos in there too! I think it's Dave who's to blame. I have my suspicions that he possibly ate something off plates in the kitchen as I fell asleep before sorting out the kitchen last night. Off to the vets for his jabs this evening so will have him checked out while we're there.
nothing wrong with his appetite though, feline dustbin that he is already tried to help me with lunch.
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Is there something in the air so to speak!
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Canicur you can get from vetUK and other places - stops diarrhoea :sick: - costs about £2 for 4 sachets. You sprinkle it on their food.
Alice isn't eating Orijen at the moment as I ran out and deciding what to do. She has been eating RC Slimness + Felix wet. I have a feeling it might me the AGAIL senior.
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Mark :thanks:
I contacted a place called Vetscriptions.co.uk and found out that they operate out of a veterinary practice in Hyde Park. I had phoned for Canikur but after a chat, went for different treatment called Pro-Kolin, which the vet nurse I spoke to said was v. good. It should arrive tomorrow.
The decision now is do I bunk work tomorrow in order to look after Dot and administer the Pro-K asap? I have an important meeting which could be re-scheduled but it won't look good and I am chasing a promotion. Arrgh! I think I'll see what she's like overnight and make a decision when I get up at 4.30am tomorrow.
C.
PS 925 - there's for sure "something in the air" round here and it ain't nice!
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but after a chat, went for different treatment called Pro-Kolin
Oh dear :scared: I think the vet has misled you terribly, the Pro-Kolin has been re-branded and is now manufactured under the name 'kitty face paints' :luck: :evillaugh:
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but after a chat, went for different treatment called Pro-Kolin
Oh dear :scared: I think the vet has misled you terribly, the Pro-Kolin has been re-branded and is now manufactured under the name 'kitty face paints' :luck: :evillaugh:
Huh?
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LOL that happened when I gave Boopy some a while back, solid black cat with beige clay all over the side of her head :evillaugh:
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Huh?
Just wait 'til you get it, you'll know exactly what I mean :evillaugh: It's a tube of brown gooey stuff that is meant to squirted into the mouth, in my experience it ended up all over my cats face and not in her mouth. Also the carpets got their fair share too :evillaugh:
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Ah, got you. That's OK then, I thought you were telling me the product was useless. I have just done 6 weeks of medicating Dot orally by syringe and I reckon I can probably do this. I have a neurological condition which affects my co-ordination and has left me with numb fingertips. Trying to do the pill thing is hopeless - I'm much better with syringes. I don't feed Dot any wet food and therefore the granules wouldn't really work. Introducing a new food at this stage in proceedings is probably not going to be helpful, hence no Canikur. We'll see how it goes.
C.
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On the Orijenal tack :evillaugh: Blips Orijen arrived this afternoon so I put out a few kibbles beside her Royal Canin Mature. She was attracted to the smell and ate a couple of them but it was supper time so she was more interested in her Applaws tuna and seaweed. I shall let you all know...
I do note that Orijen is only 2% fibre, though, so I shall have to get some additional psyllium.
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Have you tried Lacto B - worked wonders when the Bengals had Bengly Bum problems?
I really hope that little Dot is all better soon xxx
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The pk syringe is like no other, it sticks and just as you push a little harder it pops and
WHOOSH
it squirts out and either a) makes the cat gag or b) shoots out the other side leaving an oily patch on the curtain :rofl:
Wins first place for worst design every time
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:rofl: Cats and medication, match made in heaven :shify:
Well both the Bozita and Orijen are going down a storm here, not a scrap left from either of them.
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I didn't have to use it in the end, as it turned up when Dot was improving anyway and she is now almost completely better. She's back on RC Maine Coon, although I now have 7 bloody kgs of Orijen cluttering up the kitchen - I will probably have another go with this at some stage.
I am thinking of changing my vet though - they wanted to do a number of increasingly invasive things and at no point did they say, "ah, give it a day or 2 and see what happens". Avaricious so-and-sos (possibly).
C.
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Finally got my sample size Orijen today (first order got lost in the post).
Expected him to turn his nose up at it but so far so good he seems to like it!
Now if I could only ween him of Sheba...I'm trying to get him on to HiLife but it's not proving easy.
I think he likes the gold packaging :-[