Author Topic: L Lysine , anyone use it , preferably the powder or gel ?  (Read 1902 times)

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Re: L Lysine , anyone use it , preferably the powder or gel ?
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2014, 14:34:42 PM »
I seem to remember Algie finding it easier to eat dry sometimes, I think it was because he could swallow the kibble without chewing. I did mush/blend his food so he could lap it as well, very often there were half a dozen different dishes down with various wet food textures/degrees of sloppiness for him to choose from - in the last days before the op the only way he would eat anything was if he was sitting on my knee and would lap a little liquivite from my hand  :(


I am so pleased she is still eating well, fingers crossed she continues to do so  :hug:

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Re: L Lysine , anyone use it , preferably the powder or gel ?
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2014, 13:50:14 PM »
Thank you ,that's great.
If she does get worse I will have this done .
At the moment she is happy and eating well, but only biscuits, seems to have gone off the wet food for some reason?
That's really helpful. :hug:

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Re: L Lysine , anyone use it , preferably the powder or gel ?
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2014, 07:39:29 AM »
Algie had a biopsy and blood taken for testing as well.
You really wouldn't know he had no teeth and the difference it made to him was astounding. He was only about 3 1/2 years old when he had the op and within a matter of days he went from a cat that I thought was so weak he wouldn't survive (cried at the vets when I dropped him off for the op) to running around like a kitten again and eating normally.
Yes they have to get all the roots out as well as the teeth. His teeth looked perfectly healthy outwardly, but I asked the vets that did the op and they said most had come out with no problems at all.
It still brings a smile to my face and count my blessings that he is still here when I see him have a yawn, something that would cause him to yowl, hiss and run and hide when he was at his worst.

This is the copy of a post I made on another forum in June 2011, about 6 months after he had his teeth out.
My cat Algie is positive for calici and herpes and had gingivostomatitis. He had steroid injections and antirobe, but the flare ups became more frequent, he also suffered 'flu' following one course. The vets were against removing his teeth as they said they were healthy and he is a young cat (4 later this year) Toward the end of last year the steroids and antirobe no longer seemed to be helping much and despite being prescribed longer courses of the antirobe and he was having problems eating due to the pain, it was decided to try metacam along with antirobe, it did nothing to help. It was at this stage, mid December, that interferon was tried, by this time he had been eating very little for weeks and had lost so much weight I thought I would lose him, the interferon did not alleviate anything. At this stage the vets said removal of all his teeth was the only option, but they were not confident about doing the procedure as his teeth were healthy and it would be difficult to remove all the roots so suggested a specialist. Luckily I looked online and found a local vet that was did a lot of dental work, following the consultation and the vets confidence that the work required was not a problem for them I booked Algie in. Two days later he came home after the op very sorry for himself but the next day was eating more than he had done in weeks. The operation was just after new year and he is showing no signs of stomatitis returning and he has had no further treatment. In retrospect I felt guilty that I had not pushed for the removal of his teeth sooner as he would have been a much happier cat a lot sooner. Of course this is just my experience, as to if the course interferon helped as he had only finished it the week before I cannot say. I do know that if I had another cat in the same situation I would not hesitate in getting their teeth removed.

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Re: L Lysine , anyone use it , preferably the powder or gel ?
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2014, 01:42:28 AM »
Thanks, will look at that tomorrow .
She did have a small lump removed to get analyzed to see what it was .
Her gums don't look red at the moment and she had a clean and dental at the same time.
She is back on Tuesday to see how her mouth is.
Its hard to see inside her mouth as she has a very small jaw ,bless her . She is my baby though , was only 9 a couple of weeks ago.
I know if she has to have all her teeth out they have to be careful to get everything and all the roots too .
How did Algie do with no teeth ?

Ginny only has 5 and does ok !

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Re: L Lysine , anyone use it , preferably the powder or gel ?
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2014, 21:08:28 PM »
Algie had very severe gingivostomatatis so it is difficult to tell, he is/was also calici positive as well. It did seem to help in the short term and may work well if it is not so severe. In the end, and despite trying all the treatments I could find except thalidomide, he had to have an operation to remove all his teeth and a partial gingivectomy as he wouldn't eat as it caused so much pain. Hopefully it won't come to that for Pandora though. Have you seen Dr Addie's website? I found that to be very informative and has some things you could try... specific change of diet, slippery elm are a couple I recall.


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Re: L Lysine , anyone use it , preferably the powder or gel ?
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2014, 17:51:32 PM »
Thanks for the explanation. You are right that stomatitis is often herpetic (in humans, at least). I do hope you are able to find a solution.

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Re: L Lysine , anyone use it , preferably the powder or gel ?
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2014, 14:40:56 PM »
Thanks , are they doing any good ?

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Re: L Lysine , anyone use it , preferably the powder or gel ?
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2014, 07:42:00 AM »
I used the human tablets for Algie...they are huge but were easily crushed to powder between two spoons. The first lot the vet got in for me, but I sourced the same ones on Amazon for a lot less. I also bought some from a local healthfood shop as well. The ones I bought were 500mg.

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Re: L Lysine , anyone use it , preferably the powder or gel ?
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2014, 14:45:00 PM »
Hi ,
It's used for Herpes virus mainly and cats that are sneezy and wheezy .( and it's used for humans too, but not sure if the cats can have the human stuff)
It's got very good write ups online especially for cats with herpes . Pandora has this stomatitis which is like ulcers in the mouth which I think is a form of herpes too .
Just want what's best for them.
Have just left a message for my vet to,see what he thinks .

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Re: L Lysine , anyone use it , preferably the powder or gel ?
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2014, 13:48:24 PM »
I haven't heard of this, what is it used for please?

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L Lysine , anyone use it , preferably the powder or gel ?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2014, 13:46:37 PM »
Bought some paste for Pandora as she has stomatitis and also thought it may help Winston too as he has been sneezy and a bit wheezy on top of everything else !
Pandora really doesn't like the paste , Winston tolerates it as he does all,his meds.
Just wondered if anyone used the powder, where do get it from and can you use the human one or does it have to be the animal one.
I can only find the animal one on Amazon ( powder) and it has to come from USA and takes about 4 weeks and the company selling it haven't got the best reviews for customer service and some peoples arrived split and it's not cheap at around £35 .
Thanks

 


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