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Title: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 01, 2008, 21:30:25 PM
Sorry to have to post this but I feel I have no choice.

As you all know my great love in life is my bengals.  What some of you don't know (at least up until lately) is that I am a small breeder.   Unfortunately someone i considered a nice person and who knew I bred my cats has recently taken it upon themselves to not only inform others on the forum about 'what' I am but to make nasty comments behind my back.  I find the whole thing very upsetting.

I have no problem with people knowing I breed nor the fact that not all of you on here will agree or support what I do.  I have had 2 main reasons for not openly posting on here about breeding (1) its principally a rescue site for poor homeless babies and (2) I didnt want to get into a major debate on the subject or upset anyone.  I believe in 'live and let live' and have the greatest respect for many opinions even if they are not my own.  For what its worth I dont believe the fact that I am a breeder excludes me from caring about cats in their entirety regardless of background and indeed up until i got my bengals I had never owned a pedigree cat in my life.  All came from rescues.

The purpose of my post is to make sure its out in the open and stop the nastiness that going on behind the scenes.  Please dont use this as an opportunity to get into a debate on breeding, Im more than aware where most people stand on the topic.  I have however met a good number of people on here i care for and respect and thats why I continue to post on this forum.  I hope I can continue to do so after posting this.

Im sorry if ive upset anyone by making this post, I truly dont mean too.  I just want the nastiness to stop.


Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Yvonne on April 01, 2008, 21:39:03 PM
Good evening Linda,

Sorry to hear about this, there is no need for nastiness and I feel very sorry that you have been hurt and upset.  I did not know that you were a small breeder of Bengals but it would not have bothered me anyway, I love them.  As I have said before if it were not for breeding there would be no Manx cats. I imagine there would be no Bengals either.  If you want to carry on breeding then that is your choice and it is nobody else's business.

Take care,

 :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Kittybabe (Ruth) on April 01, 2008, 21:40:45 PM
Linda I'm really sorry that it's come to point that you felt you needed to make this post. I know this has upset you.  For what its worth, you have a good many friends on this forum. I agree this is not an issue for debate about breeding, but hopefully one that  shows supprt and respect for your choice, which includes the reasons you have not posted about this before. 

:hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: blackcat on April 01, 2008, 21:44:09 PM
Linda, I am not aware of the comments, but can imagine how painful they must have been for you. There is no reason to feel you need to defend your position as other forums are frank about their breeding practices and apart from the odd healty debate I am not aware of any real ill-feeling among forum members (well, ok, maybe a few). But as I am more than confident you are responsible about your choices, I can not see how any reasonable person can object.
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Christine (Blip) on April 01, 2008, 21:45:18 PM
For what it is worth, Linda, I had always assumed from your user name that you bred Bengals.  If folks disagree, that is fine in itself, but why make nasty comments behind anyones back?  :Crazy:

There should be no place for snide comments on here, IMHO.  Rational argument, yes: spitefulness, no  :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 01, 2008, 21:47:03 PM
Linda this really upsets me that you have been the subject of any nastyness and most of us anyway, love your Bengals and love to see them.

We know that you are not the only pedigree breeder here and as you know many of us have pedigrees and love them to bits.

I hope that you will continue to show us the benglies and how they progress  :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Bazsmum on April 01, 2008, 21:49:56 PM
Linda what you do is what you do hun and no ones business but your own..... ;)

I do hope you have reported who ever.... :shify: :shify: :shify: I hate the thought of nastiness it really upsets me!  >:(

 :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Den on April 01, 2008, 21:54:29 PM
I'm so sorry that you've been subject to such negativity. I don't know what they would be trying to achieve by doing that, it's awful and very uncalled for.

It's quite obvious that I'm not against breeding (as I will stick up for it) and its quite obvious I'm not against rescue (my own is rescue) .. you can have the 2 together. Don't let them get to you. It's certainly cruel if they don't know the facts and resort to being mean behind your back. It's not like you've bragged about it.

Sometimes I don't understand people ... animals are so much easier.
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Bazsmum on April 01, 2008, 21:58:49 PM
Sometimes I don't understand people ... animals are so much easier.

Here, here!  ;)
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Teresa Pawcats on April 01, 2008, 21:59:16 PM
Linda, I think you already know how much I admire all your benglys and as I said to you long ago I have no problems with responsible breeders like yourself.

I just hope the nasty person also realises that Linda is very supportive of moggie rescues aswell as giving a wealth of much needed advice when I rescued 2 bengals last year.

Linda keep smiling, its my guess that someone is very jealous of you. :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Ellie on April 01, 2008, 22:15:02 PM
Lindy  :hug: we know how much you love and care for your furbabes and TBH I'm furious that someone has done things behind your back and upset you  :hug:

What you do is your business and you shouldn't have to explain yourself to anyone  :hug:



There should be no place for snide comments on here, IMHO.  Rational argument, yes: spitefulness, no  :hug:

I agree whole heartily

I love seeing and hearing about Bengly Palace and hope to continue to do so  :hug:

I think T has a point ................ jealousy is an evil weapon.

Take care honey and love to you and all your gorgeous furbabes xxx  :cuddle:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on April 01, 2008, 22:16:23 PM
 :hug: :hug: for Linda

However you are that's upset Linda, for pity's sake channel your energies into something a tad more useful to cat welfare than picking on individuals  >:(
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on April 01, 2008, 22:24:23 PM
Hi ya Hun,

You know my views and opinions  on the subject.  You also know I regard you as a friend and if Foxy had her way you'd be her Mother in Law  ;)

Take care, keep smiling and remember you have alot more friends on here than you realise  :Luv2:

Sam, Foxy, Zephyr and Rossi xxxx
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gillian Harvey on April 01, 2008, 22:28:06 PM
I wasnt aware you bred bengals Linda, but that doesnt exclude you from this site anyway - after all, many of us on here also own pedigree cats as Gill has said. I'm sorry that someone has chosen to make an 'issue' of this and upset you and I hope it won't put you off posting on here.  :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Tan on April 01, 2008, 22:35:19 PM
Linds hun

Whether you breed or not, whether people argee with it or not, your life is your own and noone should be upsetting you or made to feel you needed to post about it. This will not be accepted on Purrs on the public forum or in private messages. You are a wonderful loving person and care for your Bengalies and all cats so very much hun, we all know that.  :hug: :Luv:
I am proud to know you  :Luv:

Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: gibraltarcat on April 01, 2008, 22:51:12 PM
I'm so sorry to hear about what you've been going through.
Sending hugs from one Linda to another. :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on April 01, 2008, 22:54:48 PM
I also find it really sad that you should be upset by this person, remember though that it is only one person.  I think it's plainly obvious by the support you have received so far and no doubt will continue to receive that you are very highly thought of on Purrs and beyond :hug:

I have really missed your photos posts on here and have resorted to stalking your website to get my bengal fix! 
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Kittybabe (Ruth) on April 01, 2008, 22:59:56 PM
Your words say it all  Helen.

Have to admit I do the same. It's a permie bookmark in my Opera browser. Bengly deprivation is what this is .

;) :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on April 01, 2008, 23:04:33 PM
I'm so sorry that you've had to post this, Linda  :hug: Nobody who has known you through Purrs could doubt for a moment that you love and care for all cats, pedigree, moggy, resuce... whatever.  Regardless of individual opinions, there's no excuse for nastiness.  You are certainly one of the good guys and your benglies are all gorgeous  :Luv:  I know I'm not the only one who loves hearing about them and drooling over their pics. 
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: JackSpratt on April 01, 2008, 23:06:22 PM
Linda, I haven't read everyone elses posts, but I'm really sorry you're being victimised. There's really no need for nastiness. I wasn't aware you bred pedigrees. But to be honest, am not surprised - your benglies give you so much pleasure I guess you'd want others to experience it too.  :)
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 01, 2008, 23:22:31 PM
Thank you so much for your lovely posts.  I am very very touched by all your kind words and proud to be part of such a wonderful forum. 

Ive not been around much for a while now and have missed you all.  I will be sure to post a regular fix of the benglies moving forwards.

I cant put into words how overwhelmed Im feeling by the support you have shown.  It means a lot xxx
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: swampmaxmum on April 01, 2008, 23:26:16 PM
Hi Linda, I'm so sorry that someone saw fit to be childish and nasty. People like that should be roundly ignored. Your bengals look lovely and you're doing a wonderful job with them. I just can't understand why some people have to be nasty over the internet.  Ditto distinguish between pedigree cats and non pedigree cats - for heaven's sake they are all gorgeous 4 pawed subjects of our devotion and loyal slavery.
I hope that with the support of everyone else you feel a bit less upset.  :hug:
ps more photos please....
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gwen on April 01, 2008, 23:27:13 PM
Linda its awful that you should feel unwelcome here,your a cat lover and you should always be made welcome.  The fact that your a breeder shouldn't be an issue,we are all cat lovers and thats what brings us here. 

Just wanted to show you my support and please keep giving us a fix of all the cats at Bengly Palace,I miss them :Luv:

 :hug: to you :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: tigerbaby on April 01, 2008, 23:39:51 PM
Hi Linda, I'm sorry you have felt singled out by some very childish people. It is very clear you are a responsible breeder and a loving cat owner and I can't believe that someone on here has taken it so far that they 'gossip' behind your back. I just want you to know that this cat forum is for cat lovers and you, like the rest of us, fall into that category. I didn't know you were a breeder, but quite frankly it does not affect me - we are all here for the same reasons.
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Mark on April 01, 2008, 23:54:27 PM
Hi Linda,

A lot of us have different views on breeding but I know you are one of the good guys  :hug:

As others have said, we are all here for the same reasons and we all love cats - it's a shame there have to be a few saddos that spoil it for others  :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: berties mum on April 02, 2008, 00:19:34 AM
Can only repeat what's been said below ... you clearly love your pusscats and if they're happy, healthy and loved, what exactly is the issue with you being a breeder?  I feel like I've missed something because I'm not aware of any gossip but please don't let it get to you  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on April 02, 2008, 03:03:12 AM
Linda, so sorry you've been upset by all this  :hug:  I only found out recently Linda was breeding, and I would be lying if I said I wasn't shocked, but I can understand her reasoning why she didn't want to say anything on a rescue forum.  I have a lot of respect for you Linda and I know you respect my views on breeding but you are also one of my favourite people on Purrs and I don't feel any less for you than I did before.   You have a great knowledge when it comes to cats and it would be a great loss to Purrs if you didn't share it, and how would we cope without seeing piccies of your totally scrummy babes  :Luv2:  :Luv2:  :hug:  :hug:  :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Sabrina (Auferstehen) on April 02, 2008, 08:34:22 AM
Didn't know you did breeding, I'd at least hoped for clones of some of the lovely bengals you've got ;)

Sorry you've been singled out and felt the need to post. Most of us know you support the rescue side of things.

So  :hug: to you and your kitties and we will await a drooling session once you post more pictures!
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Bryony84 on April 02, 2008, 08:38:23 AM
Linda. I can only echo what people have already said really. Whoever is victimising you is being childish. I had assumed you were a bengal breeder too from your name, but at least from my point of view, you are the kind of breeder I am glad exists. You care about your cats a great deal and I hope you will continue to post photos news of your little ones on here!
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Dawn F on April 02, 2008, 08:45:24 AM
Linda I am so sorry this has happened -  I've got my own bengal so obviously am glad good breeders exist
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on April 02, 2008, 09:00:34 AM
OMG Linda I am shocked and so sorry that someone has been horrid to you. This person is petty and not worth anything.

The main fact is - is that you are a TRUE cat lover.
And offer good advise to all who ask and need it.

So please dont leave us.
All cats need a loving home - whether pedigree or DSH - and if you didnt have your babes - someone else would and could abuse & use them. Where with you, they are loved dearly and a well respected family member. So  :P to whoever started this.

AND WHERE'S MY PHOTO OF LENNY LOVE????? I need a Lenny piccy  :Luv: :Luv:

I am proud of your Bengalies and I would dearly love one of Nova's little un's & Lenny  :sneaky: xxxxx
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Leanne on April 02, 2008, 09:00:47 AM
Aww Linda sorry you've been upset, I didn't know you were a breeder (but then there is no reason for me to) but you sound like a decent person who loves her cats to bits and thats the important thing  :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: clarenmax on April 02, 2008, 09:03:32 AM
Hi LInda, seeing your post has saddened me, I have to say.  I didn't know you breed, to be honest, it makes no difference to my opinion of you.  

I can't add any more than has been said already, just wanted to say I hope you do stick around, as we all need our fix of your gorgeous Bengly Babes  :hug:

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, its what makes us indivudials, but its very sad when some people have to go that step further to make theirs known, particularly when its done in a nasty way  :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Corporal Smokey on April 02, 2008, 09:05:07 AM
I wasnt aware you bred bengals Linda, but that doesnt exclude you from this site anyway - after all, many of us on here also own pedigree cats as Gill has said. I'm sorry that someone has chosen to make an 'issue' of this and upset you and I hope it won't put you off posting on here.  :hug:

Gillian has summed up what I was thinking too. I only got into rescue because I was fascinated by my pedigree cats. Both of my BSHs taught me about the differences in pedigrees and their personalities. As you all know I now have a BSH and a persian. Every cat that comes into rescue is incredible and special but it's not our fault if we love a particular temperament or markings.

Smokey came from a line of great persians and I had fun tracing his family, although he was never GCCF reg'd.

In a perfect world, reputable breeders such as yourself would be the norm, there'd be a wonderful and diverse range of happy, loved cats and we in rescue would have an easy life IMHO. It's not breeders who are the bad guys.

Hope the person who upset you has read the comments on this thread and has another think about stuff  :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on April 02, 2008, 10:17:04 AM
Your words say it all  Helen.

Have to admit I do the same. It's a permie bookmark in my Opera browser. Bengly deprivation is what this is .

;) :hug:

I'm glad I'm not the only one!   :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: ems on April 02, 2008, 10:45:39 AM
Hi Linda,

Just wanted to add to what everyone else has said really, for those of us who have watched your gorgeous bengly family grow up and increase in size we know how much you love and care for your babes  :Luv:

Try not to let it bother you, and now for me to got on your website and have a look at those fab benglys..... ;D

ems, nina and kiki
xxxxx
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on April 02, 2008, 11:01:03 AM
I too didnt know you were breeding and i also must have missed the post where someone "told all".

Other peoples opinions shouldnt matter to you if you are comfortable with what you are doing - Keep ya chin up luv x
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: ClaireR on April 02, 2008, 12:39:15 PM
It saddens me to hear that people are so childish and immature to do such things.  We are all grown adults and should act as such and respect each other even if we do have different opinions.  The ability to not have to deal with people face to face on a forum means that people think they can get away with such behaviour.  I am pleased that you have taken a stance on this.  Not everyone would be prepared to make such a statement and I am sure others will have suffered in silence in the past. Good for you.

I also would like to add that I love to see your bengal family and enjoy your updates.  I have learnt a great deal about the breed from people like yourself and I know that this has also helped rescues with their care of bengal cats that come into their care (how could I forget Estella!!).

Please don't let this minority stop the majority enjoying your babies and your comments (we don't just love you for your cats...honest!!  ;) )

Claire xx
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Ellie on April 02, 2008, 12:42:11 PM
Your words say it all  Helen.

Have to admit I do the same. It's a permie bookmark in my Opera browser. Bengly deprivation is what this is .

;) :hug:

I'm glad I'm not the only one!   :rofl: :rofl:

I do too  :evillaugh: I have to get my Nova fix  :naughty:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: candyshandy on April 02, 2008, 12:55:14 PM
It seems ridiculous that this kind of childish behaviour goes on but I've been caught up in the middle of it before on internet forums........the words 'nothing better to do' come to mind!

I think its safe to say that we all love our cats (and others too) whether they be pedigree or not.  It just makes no difference they all need our love.

I do have persians and they are all rescues but I would love a golden chinchilla persian kitten eventually which will come from a reputable breeder.  I have absolutely no issues with reputable breeders  its only those purely in it for the money that I have an issue with and that doesn't include you Linda!  ;)

Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on April 02, 2008, 13:23:16 PM
CS has hit the nail on the head - Reputable.

I know if and when I have another Bengal - You or Donna (where my boys came from) is the place I will go / come as I know they are loved from the day they are concieved to the day they leave to go to their forever home, their pedigree is purrfect and all is above board.

Still waiting for my Lenny pic  :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: puddypaws on April 02, 2008, 14:08:23 PM
I didn't know you bred bengals, but you care so much for your furries that I don't have a problem with it.  Sorry you are upset but just remember we all love your babies, and don't you dare stop giving us pics of them  :Luv2: :Luv2:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: sheryl on April 02, 2008, 15:49:02 PM
I knew that you were breeding on a small scale Linda from the "other" group, no one can doubt how much you love your cats and how devoted you are to them.  You have got a lot of good friends on here so please dont let the minority upset you.  You should be proud of the beautiful Bengals you have bred and I for one say that it is nothing to do with anyone else.

Take care Hun xxx
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: wharfevalley catsprotection on April 02, 2008, 15:53:16 PM
 :hug:I'm quite new to Purrs and work in rescue and believe me, it's not reputable, good breeders like you who are a problem!

We all know it's the BSB that cause many of the problems we have to mop up x

Just keep doing what you're doing and as you can see from the replies here, it doesn't change how we feel about you or your little ones!
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: lucy on April 02, 2008, 17:39:53 PM
Sorry to hear you have experienced this nastiness.  :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on April 02, 2008, 17:41:33 PM
Right, this is getting beyond a joke now Linda  >:(  Where are our new Bengal pics to drool over?  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Liz on April 02, 2008, 18:20:17 PM
Linda sorry for any unpleasantness that has come your way

You are lucky to be surrounded by your Bengals (I am very jealous - my tabbies aren't quite the same even if they are mostly feral!)

You bring a wealth of knowledge and great pics of your mob and can help out with your wealth of knowledge of this majestic breed

Live and let live - can we have one cometo  live at the Clan cats please :Luv:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Kelly on April 02, 2008, 18:25:01 PM
Sorry to say this but what the heck has it got to do with anyone else what you do?! I'm saddened it has got to the point that you felt the need to post this in the first place. I make no bones about wanting to own a Maine Coon kitty - would love to - pedigrees have their place in society and you only get pedigrees through proper, reputable breeding.

WE WANT BENGAL PICS, WE WANT BENGAL PICS!
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: SpecialRed on April 02, 2008, 19:06:39 PM
AS EVERYONE KNOWS I DONT MINCE MY WORDS!!

WHOEVER THIS NUMPTY IS LISTEN CAREFULLY - GET A LIFE!!!

I LOVE LINDA!

PS NAME AND SHAME

PPS I felt the need to shout my point across

PPPS Anyone know who breeds Slver tabbies LMAO!!
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 02, 2008, 19:13:08 PM
Thanks to everyone from the bottom of my heart.  Your support is much appreciated.

I will make a bengly post later tonight with some of my fave pics over last few months however i wanted to post this one now.  This is Nova and her little boy Glory.  Today I received a letter in the post from Glorys new mum - he is quite clearly the love of her life.  This is what its all about for me.  Enjoy xxx

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Novas%20Babies%20Litter%20One%20101007/mumandglory.jpg)
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: tigerbaby on April 02, 2008, 19:16:01 PM
This is Nova and her little boy Glory.


 :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
When is the next litter???
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: puddypaws on April 02, 2008, 19:19:46 PM
Linda that is a wonderful photo.  The only problem is that now I want a bengal, siamese and burmese.  I shall have to stop looking at all these pics or buy a bigger house  :Luv2:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: JackSpratt on April 02, 2008, 19:24:14 PM
I love that picture. It's a proper "Kodak moment."  :Luv:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Millys Mum on April 02, 2008, 19:28:18 PM
Linda, i mentioned your name in a post that was edited, it was in no way a malicious sentence, i hope this isnt a case of chinese whispers where things have become exagerated?  :shify:

Thats a sweet picture
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 02, 2008, 19:36:20 PM
No Millys Mum, I was not aware you had mentioned my name.  This has no connection with that.
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: gibraltarcat on April 02, 2008, 20:12:47 PM
Awhhhhhhhhhhh :Luv2: :Luv2
In July I'm cat sitting a snow leopard Bengal, if that's the right name! I'm so looking forward to it as she's a real character.
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 02, 2008, 20:34:26 PM
I love that picture  ;D
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gwen on April 02, 2008, 20:36:53 PM
I just love their markings :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Yvonne on April 02, 2008, 20:49:16 PM
Hope that you are feeling better today Linda
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Sabrina (Auferstehen) on April 02, 2008, 21:12:07 PM
I want a bengal!

Do you think anyone would notice if I put spots on my burmese? She's crazy enough to pass for a bengal just a tad small.

I accidently spent half my day looking at bengal pics, and serval pictures... It's all this threads fault!

Linda I hope you're okay and that you show us more pictures, otherwise you might get raided by a group of mad cat ladies on Purrs with our own cameras.
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on April 02, 2008, 21:21:28 PM
Gorgeous pic of Nova and Glory ... It's not hard to see why his new Mummy is besotted by him  :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Rosella moggy on April 02, 2008, 21:30:59 PM
Linda, i mentioned your name in a post that was edited, it was in no way a malicious sentence, i hope this isnt a case of chinese whispers where things have become exagerated?  :shify:

I did similar MM with another member's name and it needed to be edited too. Likewise certainly in no way malicious. In fact very complimentary.  A great pity that a weeny minority spoils stuff for the great Benglie and other breeds adoring  :bow:  majority.

Exciting waiting for the latest Benglie photos ain't it? 
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: LesleyW on April 02, 2008, 22:19:54 PM
You know how I feel Linda, I hope you're feeling better today, with all these posts of support you should know how we feel about yo :hug:u
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 02, 2008, 22:20:23 PM
Some of my fave pics of Nova and her babies xxx

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Novas%20Babies%20Litter%20One%20101007/Sonicmum21107.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Novas%20Babies%20Litter%20One%20101007/RockysTongue21107.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Novas%20Babies%20Litter%20One%20101007/Rocky231107.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Novas%20Babies%20Litter%20One%20101007/Sonic271007.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Novas%20Babies%20Litter%20One%20101007/Sonic2271007.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Novas%20Babies%20Litter%20One%20101007/Shaker271007.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Novas%20Babies%20Litter%20One%20101007/LexyandSonic271007.jpg)

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Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: LesleyW on April 02, 2008, 22:21:55 PM
I WANT ONE :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Rosella moggy on April 02, 2008, 22:27:49 PM
OMG!!!!!  :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
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Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 02, 2008, 22:30:39 PM
Thanks Lesley & Rosella xxxx

Its hard to believe these babies are 6 months old now but have gone to lovely families who have kept in touch (including my sister who could not resist!).

One of the little boys was very like his mummy - I called him shaker maker however his new family have given him a much better name - hes called Ichigo.  He's the bottom little boy in this pic.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Novas%20Babies%20Litter%20One%20101007/GloryShaker.jpg)
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on April 02, 2008, 22:35:36 PM
OMG - cuteness alert!  I think this thread needs to have a cuteness warning on it!

What adorable babies!  :Luv: :Luv:



(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Novas%20Babies%20Litter%20One%20101007/Rocky231107.jpg)



Do they come any cuter than that?!  :Luv2: :Luv2:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Tan on April 02, 2008, 22:42:14 PM
Oh Gosh i have gone all gooey  :faint: :catlove: They all are soooo gorgeous. Now i really wish i had a nice big house with a couple of acres (in land not sore feet!) with a nice bit of woodland in the middle and it all cat proofed and i would be over to some bengalynappin :evillaugh:

Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Tan on April 02, 2008, 22:46:10 PM

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Novas%20Babies%20Litter%20One%20101007/Shaker271007.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Novas%20Babies%20Litter%20One%20101007/LexyandSonic271007.jpg)


These beauties are mine!!!!  :shify: Where did youy say they were homed hun?  :sneaky:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gillian Harvey on April 02, 2008, 22:52:58 PM
They are gorgeous! - I love that one with his/her? paw in mouth  :Luv2:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 02, 2008, 22:58:23 PM
i have spots and stripes infront of my eyes  ;D

Those little ones look like wild cat cubs, they are so gorgeous
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 02, 2008, 23:03:25 PM
They are just so gorgeous :Luv:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on April 03, 2008, 00:15:10 AM
OMG Linda, how could you have kept these babes from us, they are so gorgeous, I don't know why but I felt quite teary looking at the pics  :Luv:  :Luv:  :Luv:  :Luv:  :Luv:  :Luv:  They are all so beautiful and Nova looks so contented bless her  :Luv2:  :Luv2:  :Luv2:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: J (Indoorcatsuk) on April 03, 2008, 00:40:08 AM
Oh Linda, what a unpleasant experience. Despite my personal views on breeding it is clear how much you love your beautiful cats, which is why we are all here.
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Bazsmum on April 03, 2008, 02:14:47 AM
 :gimme: :gimme: :gimme: :car: :shify: :shify: :shify: *must have them babies*  :shify: :sneaky:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: clarenmax on April 03, 2008, 08:55:26 AM
Awwwwwwwwwwww, baby benglies  :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:

I've gone all gooey, such gorgeous pics of stunning babes  :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Sabrina (Auferstehen) on April 03, 2008, 09:03:23 AM
They are absolutley gorgeous.

Anyone else wonder if there's a purrs discount ;) Not that I can afford one anyway but still.

You can just tell by their little faces how happy they are. Though my husband would just call them mutants (his name for baby kittens).
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on April 03, 2008, 09:03:23 AM
Thanks to everyone from the bottom of my heart.  Your support is much appreciated.

I will make a bengly post later tonight with some of my fave pics over last few months however i wanted to post this one now.  This is Nova and her little boy Glory.  Today I received a letter in the post from Glorys new mum - he is quite clearly the love of her life.  This is what its all about for me.  Enjoy xxx

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Novas%20Babies%20Litter%20One%20101007/mumandglory.jpg)

Linda you've done it again my heart has just melted - that photo is just  :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:. Words cant describe how that photo makes me feel.  Any photo comps that should be entered  :Luv:
PS give Lenny a snuggle from me xxxxxxx
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Ellie on April 03, 2008, 09:14:51 AM
Awwww Linda what wonderful photos  :Luv2:

Thank you so much for sharing Nova and her gorgeous babies with us  :Luv2:

As you know Nova stole my heart when you first posted her pic as a wee kitten and I'm still in love with her  :Luv2: :Luv2:

Please give her, and all your other gorgeous furbabes, huge cuddles from Auntie Ellie  :hug:

One day I shall cat-nap visit Nova  :evillaugh:

Take care honey xx  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: tigerbaby on April 03, 2008, 13:06:27 PM
Right, so now I want a Bengal. Although - are they usually indoor cats (if your garden isn't cat-proof)? As if they went out surely there would be a big chance they would get stolen?
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Dawn F on April 03, 2008, 13:10:20 PM
I can't imagine my bengal not going out (we do have catproofing), she would be a nightmare, she can climb the apple tree in one jump!  they have LOADS of energy, not sure how Linda manages!
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: ems on April 03, 2008, 13:11:41 PM
Heavenly!  :Luv:  :Luv:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 03, 2008, 18:52:05 PM
Right, so now I want a Bengal. Although - are they usually indoor cats (if your garden isn't cat-proof)? As if they went out surely there would be a big chance they would get stolen?

None of mine are allowed out although I do have a few enclosures outdoors that they go outside to play in and they love it.  Velvet doesnt live outdoors either but in my newly converted stud pad (was my garage) - cant bear the thought of him living outdoors alone and my other boys all keep him company on rota (im lucky that they all get along) - he does of course get out to play during the day in one of the enclosures.  We have also harness trained him so he gets out for walks to the park etc which he adores.

 My kittens are all reared indoors in the bengly nursery.  I dont let my kittens go to homes where they are allowed out to roam, as apart from usual dangers yes they could be stolen.

The commitment of having a bengal is a significant one and no one should take it lightly.  Yes they do look gorgeous but they are also the equivalent of having a young very demanding child around  :evillaugh:.  You have to love the breed (as clearly I do  :Luv:)
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 03, 2008, 18:53:25 PM
Thank you for your lovely comments on the kittens xxxxx
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Rosella moggy on April 03, 2008, 18:56:48 PM
Sorry Linda, I'm not keeping up. Who's Velvet?

Aaah Stud pad...... He's the daddie then? Have we seen piccies of Velvet yet?
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 03, 2008, 19:10:54 PM
This is my Velvet  :Luv:

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/P9030049.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/P9030047.jpg)

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Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: JackSpratt on April 03, 2008, 19:20:34 PM
They're all so stunning.  :Luv:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Ellie on April 03, 2008, 19:23:24 PM
 :omg: Velvet is stunning  :Luv2: :Luv2:

I love his markings  :Luv2:

Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Rosella moggy on April 03, 2008, 19:25:56 PM
His markings are beautiful Linda.  When I saw my first Bengal abiut 5 years ago, he was going for a walk in a harness in Salcombe. First time I'd ever seen a cat in a harness and he obviously loved it too.
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 03, 2008, 20:31:37 PM
Velvet is stunning  ;D

Now what I want to know is what sorta colour is Velvet called?

And if he is mated say with Nova who looks completely differnet what sorta bengals woulf come out of the union or is it just guess work?

I know you have marbled and spotted and some are Nova coloured and some are Velvet coloured but is there a gentic blueprint for reproduction of the various types and colours?
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 03, 2008, 21:34:55 PM
Bengal genetics are not easy Gill LOL (like any genetics really!).

Velvet is a silver marble  and he is the daddy to Novas kittens.  Nova is brown spotted but from silver sire.  They produced 4 brown spotted boys and one wee silver spotted female.  Spots and brown are dominant so no surprises there.

If you mate marble to marble you will always produce marble.  If you put snow to snow you will always produce snow.  If you want silver then one of the parents must be silver.  So there are some things you can do to influence the colours and patterns you breed but it really depends what is in their pedigrees further back the lines so they need to be studied and researched carefully.

I do know that velvet carries for brown and snow and can produce silver being silver himself......everyday is a learning experience  ;)  As I love marbles i recently mated him with one of my marble girls and we got a full litter of marble babies ..... one brown marble, two silver marbles and one little snow marble baby  :Luv:

This is one of the wee silver marble girls.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Roxys%20Babies%20Litter%20Two%202nd%20Feb%2008/P1010036.jpg)
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 03, 2008, 21:48:52 PM
How cute is that  ;D

Yes genetics very difficult but interesting and will have to read your answer a few times  :rofl:

Whats the difference betweeb a snow and a silver?

Sorry for questions  ;D
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Kittybabe (Ruth) on April 03, 2008, 21:49:14 PM
Okays missus! For me next order I'd like a Sonic lookielikey and a Nova and Lenny (the originals) with a little Loki and Lubo thrown in. Can do?  Good. Pls ship to London making sure the Sonic is sucking his paw :Luv: 

Thank you kindly.

:naughty:

Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: CurlyCatz on April 03, 2008, 21:52:04 PM
Hey Linda,

soz I've not been in touch with you for ages, I'm always meaning to as i want to catch up on some things but I've just quickly scanned your thread on here I am shocked to hear there's been any bad mouthing of you and I am appauled to be honest.  

Having known you for what must be getting on for 2 years now i guess, even though i've not met up with you in person yet I have chatted with you so many times at great length, seen probably over a hundred+ photos of your home with furry friends and also enjoyed chatd with others who have had the pleasure of meeting you and your tribe in the flesh.

All I can say from all of that is that you are the type of cat owner/carer we should perhaps aspire to be like whether we have 1 or multiple cats in our houses

 :hug:

PS Linda..remember jealousy is an awful thing and must be pitied ;)
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 03, 2008, 21:59:31 PM
Hi Gill

No problem with the questions  :Luv:

This is a newborn snow marble baby bengal

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Roxys%20Babies%20Litter%20Two%202nd%20Feb%2008/P1010019-1.jpg)

and this is little Iris now at 8 weeks old  :Luv:

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w196/bengalbabe_2007/Roxys%20Babies%20Litter%20Two%202nd%20Feb%2008/P1010001-1.jpg)
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 03, 2008, 22:00:24 PM
Hey Linda,

soz I've not been in touch with you for ages, I'm always meaning to as i want to catch up on some things but I've just quickly scanned your thread on here I am shocked to hear there's been any bad mouthing of you and I am appauled to be honest.  

Having known you for what must be getting on for 2 years now i guess, even though i've not met up with you in person yet I have chatted with you so many times at great length, seen probably over a hundred+ photos of your home with furry friends and also enjoyed chatd with others who have had the pleasure of meeting you and your tribe in the flesh.

All I can say from all of that is that you are the type of cat owner/carer we should perhaps aspire to be like whether we have 1 or multiple cats in our houses

 :hug:

PS Linda..remember jealousy is an awful thing and must be pitied ;)

Thank you Lynn xxxxxxx
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 03, 2008, 22:06:24 PM
My goodness isnt Iris gorgeous  ;D
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: CurlyCatz on April 03, 2008, 22:08:41 PM
Very Gill but my question is will Iris be looking for a forever home or is she already in it  :sneaky: :evillaugh:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 03, 2008, 22:11:21 PM
Hmmmm Lynn , thats a good one  ;D

I have a feeling , just a sneakie feeling that Iris may be too beautiful to let go  ;D
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: hannah (weeny) on April 03, 2008, 23:55:40 PM
hello  :)

i as usual have no idea what been going on but....

i just wanted to add a few things.... 
one, you've been missed,
two, sorry youre not very happy  :hug:
three, do you have a job?  cos how on earth would you leave this lot!?!?!?!
four, they are truly stunning photos
five, i'm disappointed in lots of us here that youve escaped showing us photos for soooooo long  :doh:
six, i am of course very angry at you because i WANT one NOW!!!!
seven... i'm sure i had more points......  boy am i glad i made those stockings for you when there were only five!!!!!!   :-:


and lastly - how the blip do you keep coming up with all the names?!?!?!?!!?   :Crazy:

oh dear.  going to have to go and bore everyone i know with all these photos now, try to impress jasper that he wants a little bro/sis and persuade parents that i really should be allowed one.  now!!!!!
 :hug:


Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 04, 2008, 00:07:57 AM
LOL Hannah, thank you so much.  Ive missed you too xxxx

The names are easy, the bengals inspire me  :Luv:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 04, 2008, 00:13:12 AM
Hmmmm Lynn , thats a good one  ;D

I have a feeling , just a sneakie feeling that Iris may be too beautiful to let go  ;D

How well you know me  ;)
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: hannah (weeny) on April 04, 2008, 00:30:44 AM
she does look very special  :Luv:  cant wait to see her grow up  :)
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on April 04, 2008, 11:13:59 AM

The commitment of having a bengal is a significant one and no one should take it lightly.  Yes they do look gorgeous but they are also the equivalent of having a young very demanding child around  :evillaugh:. 

OH YESSSS Nail head Linda  :Luv:.

But would we have them any other way. Nope -they wouldnt be Benagal's if they were goody four paws would they?.
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Corporal Smokey on April 04, 2008, 16:58:07 PM
I don't know why but I felt quite teary looking at the pics  :Luv:  :Luv:  :Luv:  :Luv:  :Luv:  :Luv: 

I reckon that'll be due to the state you see furbabes in every day  :'( . These are the exact opposite and a credit to the breeding world.

Those shiny coats and shiny black pads are incredible  :Luv:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Ann Clarke (Tabby cat) on April 04, 2008, 17:48:30 PM
Hi Linda, only just caught up with this thread and can only echo what eveyone else has said on here really. I had no idea you were a breeder but makes no difference to me anyway. You are a lovely person, always willing to help with advice and practical help, your cats are fabulous and as anyone can see superbly looked after and we all know they are loved to bits and I also know you support rescue work too. Like most of us on here I just love all cats and would love to have a pedigree one day when I can afford it (don't think I could cope with a Benglie though  :rofl:).

Purrs wouldn't be the same without you and of course we need more piccies  :Luv: Just ignore anyone who is childish enough to make nasty comments, if only there were more people around like you, the cat world would be a much better place  :Luv: Of course now I know you have a website I'm going to be on the computer even more - that means even less housework getting done :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: tpepaul on April 04, 2008, 18:05:57 PM
hi there

Velvet is one stunning cat!  :shocked:  I'm a big fan of bengals myself - not only are they really beautifully marked, but their faces have so much...'intelligence'. Don;t know if that's the right word, but you know what I mean...

Josie is half bengal (the other hald is chinchilla!) and retains many of the bengal characteristics (very vocal, beautiful markings) without being purebred. Don't think we could afford a purebred...not that I'd give Josie up anyway! Couple of pics attached. But Velvet...if you ever need a new home (yeah, AS IF!!!!)...

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Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Linda (Bengalbabe) on April 04, 2008, 22:09:19 PM
Thanks everyone, I am amazed at the support you have given me.  I feel teary too Dawn xxxxxx

I didnt go into breeding bengals lightly, adored the breed for many years and got my lovely bengal pet boys Lubo, Lenny and Loki before I took the next step.  Ive been very lucky to have a fab mentor who has inspired, supported, coached and guided me every step of the way. 

Tpepaul, little Josie is just wonderful.  I can certainly see many bengal features in her but you are quite right not to swap her, she is way too special xxxxx
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: CurlyCatz on April 04, 2008, 23:10:49 PM
Quote
Hmmmm Lynn , thats a good one 

I have a feeling , just a sneakie feeling that Iris may be too beautiful to let go 


How well you know me 

First snowy would be a wrench to let go :Luv2:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on April 04, 2008, 23:35:52 PM
Absolutely stunning pics Linda :drool;  Jealous, jealous, jealous  :Luv:
Title: Re: A Difficult Post
Post by: MrsR on April 05, 2008, 14:21:16 PM
I have been off the site for a while now and have no idea of what has happened and have heard nothing but just want to give you a hug sweetie x