Purrs In Our Hearts - Cat Forum UK
Cat General => General Cat Chat => Topic started by: Purrlishious on August 12, 2007, 22:25:25 PM
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Seems like some people abuse generosity for something done with a good heart & intent to please.
One person owes me £48 for the IKEA cat tents, money I can ill afford to loose. As promised these tents were sent immediately & in good faith that the money owed would reach me a.s.a.p & as yet full of promise. Some 3 weeks later I am still waiting!!
I feel angry & I feel fleeced, which in turn has stripped the pleasure out of the intent to give & trust.
I am sorry to have to post this as other buds honoured their payments by return for which I thankyou.
I have not named names in hope that the money does see its way to me eventually to stop me doing just that!
Please, please be careful that not everyone is how you would like them to be when placing orders.
Take care X
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So sorry to hear that, I am sure you know that I know exactly how you feel - is there any connection? Big :hug: to you and to let you know the rest of us appreciated what you did and especially my kitties :thanks:
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This is terrible and I do hope that you get the outstanding amount.
This site operates on trust and friendship and I think if the person does not pay up then we should know the guilty party................why do I think I know who it maybe >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Yes Lesley & Gill, we have the same person in mind I'm sure. :censored:
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Whoever this is,
Dude, so not cool.
sort it out.
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That's terrible. I really hope you get your money. It was so generous of you to get all those tents for people and I hate to think that anyone would abuse that generosity. Fingers crossed the guilty party will pay up.
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Sue, if it is the same person I would ask that the money be given to you from the collection that is being done for me, please pm me and let me know if it is.
Lesley xxxxx
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Sorry to hear that. It's hateful when someone lets you down that way.
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No Lesley.. that is for you to get a nice new pen.
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Thats not on, come on whoever you are be fair!
This just spoils things for the rest of us.
I hope you get your money and I'm sure you wont be so kind in the future, which is sad.
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Sue have just gone back and read the original thread and I suspect you, Gill and others are correct in your thoughts. If it indeed is the person we suspect I doubt you will get a response on this forum from them anymore, Sue, maybe Gill and Tan can advise how best to try get your money from them.
And if it is that person and they are reading this. Shame. Shame on you.
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I can't imagine it would be anyone else. It would be good if it was possible to get them through the small claims court and they would have to pay court costs as well. Anyone got any legal experience on here?.
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not actual legal experience but I recently had difficulty getting my landlord to cough up the deposit money and finally sent a letter of demand, carefully worded with no extraneous information basically saying the sum was now past due and that if it was not in my account within five working days of receipt of my letter (sent recorded delivery) that I would be instructing legal counsel for recovery of the amount. I added that any additional costs associated with recovery of the amount due would be his responsibility. PUrrlishious I will pm you the text of the letter if you want and you can just fill in the gaps.
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Can you not ring them up and have a word, you know their phone number is available. Or you could send them a letter recorded delivery. Reading between the lines I think there is no need to read the original topic to know about whom you are writing about.
Also see www.moneyclaim.gov.uk
Hopefully the person who owes you the money will see sense and pay up immediately. You could mention in a letter that of you do not receive the full amount owed within 14 days you will take legal action.
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I can well imagine who it is - £48 worth of tents, wonder why they wanted so many - wouldn't surprise me anymore if she has sold them on :Crazy:
Sorry to hear you are out of pocket Purrlishious - most people on here are kind, generous and honest - don't let the one bad egg put you off :hug:
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What makes me laugh is this person claimed they were going to work for CP -hopefully not - they will be stealing the cat food & beds >:(
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most people on here are kind, generous and honest
I think you are right. If you remember there was only one person after the auction who did not send the money. although I think that person was never to be seen again. Not in her own name anyway. Perhaps if anyone is so kind again to do such a good deed payment should be received before goods are sent out like the auction. Although often gut feeling does tell you who you can trust implicitly.
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What makes me laugh is this person claimed they were going to work for CP -hopefully not - they will be stealing the cat food & beds
I would be very surprised if they would take her on.
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This in an actual joke. If this is about who I think then I am apalled, what kind of person does this! People go out of their way to be kind and she throws it back in their face.
If it were me I would take this a lot further.
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What a tot al S**T, how can anyone abuse the generosity of someone who has gone out of their way - you know who you are so PAY UP !!!!
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I can well imagine who it is - £48 worth of tents, wonder why they wanted so many - wouldn't surprise me anymore if she has sold them on
Possibly on e-bay with anything else they can get their hands on ;). Unless of course they are intending to help a rescue. Mind you that does not bear thinking about.
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There haven't been many on ebay cos I've been looking for one myself. There's one person selling them at the moment http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IKEA-CAT-TENT-BNIB-GREEN-AND-BLUE-CAT-HOUSE-CAT-KENNEL_W0QQitemZ170138991171QQihZ007QQcategoryZ1284QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I agree with others, a strongly-worded letter threatening legal action might do the trick.
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I suspect they have been flogged on ebay, probably with a cat cage aswell >:(
I'd love to say i'm surprise but in all honesty i'm not and had her character marked from the beginning of the membership with that cat spay but poss preg should they get it scanned carry on >:(
I'm very upset that now 2 members of purrs are out of pocket by considerable sums, i wonder if any other stories are going to sneak out of the woodwork. Someone said they forwarded money they were collecting for a kitten..i think we can safely say that went straight into the purse and not to the kitten in question.
atleast purrlishious you must have a valid postal address as you sent the tents off to them, It might not do any good but I would actually contact the police and explain the situation, you have all your other mates on here who also had cat tents to testify you sent them (did you get proof of posting) Also i wouldnt be making the police contact a threat i'd be carrying out that action straight away today. If i lived in the area i would jolly well be offereing to pay this person a visit and demanding payment for the cage and the tents !!!,
Its horrible to say but i think we have to now realise that not so honerable members can be a part of this forum and maybe start minding our p & q's now. Pity...1 person ruined it for everyone else !
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Grrrrr NOT Cool .... Sorry I have no idea who we are talking about ... I'm sure someone will PM with a name though ;)
If this person lives in my area (Nottinghamshire) I am more than happy to go round and knock on the door for you and ask for your money.
I hate this sort of dishonesty. Of course before we jump to conclusions there may be a good reason for the delay ... let's hope so.
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sam i think it may be linked to the same person who started all the carry on last week and has since been banned.
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Lynn, next time you post do you think you could say what you mean instead of beating about the bush. ;D
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Lynn, next time you post do you think you could say what you mean instead of beating about the bush. ;D
You crazy cat you Lynn :evillaugh:
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You know what that might be funny if this whole saga wasnt so disgusting.
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No cheque arrived in this mornings post from crazycats aka Lisa aka Mike aka Donna aka Rhea. :censored: :censored: :censored:
Have saved all PM posts & her address but she may have been evicted by now... no replies to my last few attempts. :censored: :censored: :censored:
She lives in Portsmouth apparently but who knows! :censored: :censored: :censored:
I will look into the moneyclaim site & see what happens from there. :censored: :censored: :censored:
Sounds like she is a cunning little :censored: :censored: :censored:
Am going to the Police Station soon & will report back.
How VERY dare she!!! :censored: :censored: :censored:
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Good for you, she's playing on the fact this is all online and the police will do nothing, theft is still theft surely and thats 2 incidents we know of on 1 forum, how many more people has she ripped off via online communitys ?
PS were those last 2 names you used tongue in cheek or were they other identitys i wasnt aware of ?
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Has she actually been banned from the forum? :scared:
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I didn't recognise the Rhea name either Lynn, though I think Donna appeared in Crazycatz e-mail address. You can give the Police my details if you want Purrlishious and also have sent you a PM.
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Lynn, her name to post out to was Rhea Wheatherawl but on her e-mail tag it was Donna ~ but she has used the names of Lisa & Mike on the forum.
What a mess!
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Lynn, her name to post out to was Rhea Wheatherawl but on her e-mail tag it was Donna ~ but she has used the names of Lisa & Mike on the forum.
What a mess!
:Crazy: this girl is nuts.
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Donna Kebab & Dia Reah :evillaugh:
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Got your PM Lesley thanks. Will reply later after done the 'Bill' job! Terrible!!
How VERY VERY dare she!
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Lov your humour Mark...
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Donna Kebab & Dia Reah :evillaugh:
:rofl: Sorry had to laugh at that!
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I understand someone who joined in a number of names also used the name Pinknfluffy
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Donna Kebab & Dia Reah
Mark behave yourself, if you don't this topic may also be closed.
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I understand someone who joined in a number of names also used the name Pinknfluffy
not the same person ela, surely :doh:
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How did all of this come about in the end? (ban etc?)
I think I missed something at the weekend? ;)
Shame the network cancelled my favourite soap eh? :evillaugh:
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How despicable. I hope this 'person' can be prosecuted. It makes me :sick:
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So how many other user names has she got that we dont know about? Surely her IP address has been banned not just a warning given? Could we have conformation of this so we feel a little more secure?
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How disappointing that people behave like this :(
Presumably the IP address from postings have been logged so these can be provided to the police and small claims court if necessary. With the tracing technology, anyone who posts on a forum like this can be tracked down these days. Good luck and I hope it gets solved swiftly.
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next to impossible to ban an ip address as you can change them pretty much at will, you can ban ip address ranges but that would effectively block everyone with a certain provider, also if they are using a dial up connection they could just change providers anyway.
As mods can testify I use multiple ip addresses
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I do too as I come on at home, in work and at friends houses etc..
I think now we are all a bit more aware though we would spot one of her posts a mile off
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not the same person ela, surely
I would not like to speculate but along with others the membership has been closed I think.
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With the tracing technology, anyone who posts on a forum like this can be tracked down these days.
IP address can be logged yes but as no proof is needed for pay as you go dialup connection accounts then these are effectively untraceable, except at great expense
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Oh dear what a mess 1 person can cause. I think someone mentioned confirmation of this so be can be more secure, yes i do feel all members probably need to be kept in the "light" of whats happened/happening for that very reason. Probably the reason for the insecurity is because of the number of false identitys (wonder if theres more we dont know about) and also its highly likely this troll will make an attempt to get back into this forum as trouble is her very nature.
I feel sorry for Tan especially as this is her forum and also the mods on this one as for the foreseeable few months vigelence is going to be key..however any suspicious members/posts then i think pm'ing a mod directly will probably be best rather than any public challenge.
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however any suspicious members/posts then i think pm'ing a mod directly will probably be best rather than any public challenge.
This would be best as a public challenge is the very thing they are after, unfortunately trolls exist on all forums but if you ignore them then they will wander off again
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She could even be using a comp in the library
Lisa, if your looking- what went wrong?
OMG!!!!!!!! I have just realised what I have done, I have told this person some personal things about myself how f*****g daft have I been!
not that it was bad, I'd admit to anyone it was just personal to me :-[
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So how many other user names has she got that we dont know about? Surely her IP address has been banned not just a warning given? Could we have conformation of this so we feel a little more secure?
Tan can confirm this, however, from what I am aware all accounts have been banned and IP addresses blocked, however, peeps this does not prevent someone finding another way on. All they need is to go to an internet cafe and do this. Just be vigilant and report via PM to Tan/Gill or one of the mods if you suspect anything. As Lynn says, don't challenge them publicly, we don't want unpleasantness on Purrs, we've had enough of that recently.
Let's see if there is anything we as a group can do to help Sue, we don't need to specualte as to who this person is, we now know who it is and we know how shamefully they have behaved. Let's not go the direction of other threads though, because you know in the end they'll have to be locked if it gets out of hand and this is certainly one area I, as a member, not a mod, do not want locked down.
I for one find it shocking that our members have been abused this way.
I think going forward if any of our members wants to be as generous as Sue was, lets go via our Paypal account on Purrs and get payment from all members before shipping items. Its guaranteed you will get your money that way. Horrible that our trust has been abused. >:(
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Maybe if there is surplus funds for Lesley's cage we could use that, Ruth?
I am not saying we should take away from the cage fund but maybe we might get more than needed ;D
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Keep em rolling in then! :cheer:
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I told Sue I would like the money taken from the cage fund to refund her, if that is alright with everyone - I don't see why I should get help and she does not, we were both taken in by a conwoman.
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That's really kind of you Lesley and I am sure if we have enough we can at the very least help both.
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Les what happened with the cage? I miss everything
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I would be happy with that.
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Lynn, her name to post out to was Rhea Wheatherawl but on her e-mail tag it was Donna ~ but she has used the names of Lisa & Mike on the forum.
What a mess!
:Crazy: this girl is nuts.
No I don't think she is nuts .... devious, manipulative, coniving, nasty and mean maybe ... but not Nuts.
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Les what happened with the cage? I miss everything
CC Under theGeneral Cat Chat section there is a Sticky Topic detailing all. You may want to read that while you have your feet up (which you should do since you only have 4 weeks to go!). It will all become clear.
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Where have you been CC - outer space :rofl:. Lisa/Crazycatz/Mike/Donna/Rhea/Pinknfluffy borrowed my cage for her cats when she had the decorators in, then mysteriously fell ill and went to Kent, leaving my cage behind and now lives in a big house in London and cannot return my cage to me!!!!
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I would be happy with that.
Me too
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Hopefully this then... :donate:
:shy:
I wont mention anymore about it but I think the main reason these threads keep turning into a conversation about "she who was banned" is because threads are deleted so people are left a bit confused/feel like they are missing something. :-:
If I see any suspicious postings I wont reply either, but report - like what Lynn said ;D
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Les what happened with the cage? I miss everything
Don't even go there. ;D
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No actually Dawn I have been in outer space lol
Les, is there no way to get it back, I suppose you have contacted the police? How shocking!
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I told Sue I would like the money taken from the cage fund to refund her, if that is alright with everyone - I don't see why I should get help and she does not, we were both taken in by a conwoman.
I totally agree, why would you treat someone and abuse their trust like this, I hope any new members don't think we all behave in this manner, I think the majority of us treat each other with respect.
I am willing to chuck a couple of quid into another pot for the money to be recovered, I do realise we dont want to think that this is turning into an unpaid accounts (by others) and the rest of us pick up the bill, but you know what I mean, anyway we don't know what else will be uncovered do we, but I know we will help in anyway possible.
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lets see how much we get in and see if that can get a decent cage for lesley and atleast abit of the money if not all back to purrlishous.
I wonder if it would do any good for Tan contacting the police aswell ?
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I follow this sage off and on... :Crazy:
But if anyone knows the whereabouts of this person, if they really are in London/Kent, PM me the address and I shall arrange a pick up. ;) Hubby can lay his hands on about 30 Glaswegian truckies who are ardent puddy fans, and travel around a lot, and will gladly assist this person in getting your cage back to you. :wow: ;)
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its portsmouth pinkbear.
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Yeap i can confirm all 4 accounts known to us have been banned with all info incl IP address's and individual host numbers. We have now resorted back to member approval before a new account is activated so we can check all new members. However, it would really help us if you could all keep an eye out too cause as said below it is possible to open a new ISP account with no trace to any old adresses. I can confirm that three of the accounts where from The Portsmouth Adult & learning community center.
It's appauling that one person can be so dishonest and want to hurt trustworthy and honest people. I hate dishonesty and like all of you, don't want it in our wonderful community. It is esp important to be able to trust people for pledged donations and funds because of our main goal on Purrs fundraing projects for cat rescue. It is always better to go through the Purrs account if you need to collect any money from members. It is under control, safe way to pay and the money will go to where it is intended. Purrs does have to do annual accounts and submit these to the Revenue and a record of all monies received do go through these accounts. (lucky i'm an accountant hey ;) ;D ) Purrs runs as a non profit organization where 100% of any profit made goes to Cat rescue. We can deal with third party collection for a valid reason and i can set up a sep paypal account for this if needed.
We have found a bug in our members and i hope never to again so if we all keep an eye and report anything you think caould be another "bug", please let me or any of the mods know.
:thanks: :thanks: :thanks: so much to all of you wonderful peeps.
I def agree that if we include Sue's £48 in with the fund we are raising for Les that would be brill if all of you are happy for doing that. :Luv:
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I follow this sage off and on... :Crazy:
But if anyone knows the whereabouts of this person, if they really are in London/Kent, PM me the address and I shall arrange a pick up. ;) Hubby can lay his hands on about 30 Glaswegian truckies who are ardent puddy fans, and travel around a lot, and will gladly assist this person in getting your cage back to you.
:rofl: :rofl:What do you mean about Glaswegian truckies, we Glaswegians are a very sensitive and loving bunch, we can not abide violence in any shape or form (I right) :rofl: :rofl:
and thats just the woman (only kiddin ladies)
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Only just caught up with this, how awful for you Sue. :(
When i get chance to do my donation to the fund i'll throw a few extra pennies in ;)
Am shocked that people would do this, stealing from people's good nature and charity? Despicable. No different from walking into a shop and stealing a charity collection box in my opinion.
Hope the Police can shed some light on it anyway :hug:
ems
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how weird that the ip's were from a community centre, does that mean she wasnt at home all day then ?
Anyway Angie I'm nae sure if thats weegies or just scottish in general :evillaugh:
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its portsmouth pinkbear.
I think the staying with relatives in Kent thing was just another fabrication.
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Exactly, Angie! ;)
My hubby's transport crew, according to their gaffer, was recruited by leaving lumps of raw meat at the foot of the mountains. They are caring, gentle folks always willing to help property get back to animal charities. :Luv:
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how weird that the ip's were from a community centre, does that mean she wasnt at home all day then ?
Anyway Angie I'm nae sure if thats weegies or just scottish in general :evillaugh:
I would say the people who run the centre (government backed) would have something to say about that.
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Exactly, Angie! ;)
My hubby's transport crew, according to their gaffer, was recruited by leaving lumps of raw meat at the foot of the mountains. They are caring, gentle folks always willing to help property get back to animal charities. :Luv:
It would be great if the basket could be recovered and the money raised went to needy cats rather than subsidising some lazy, lying selfish piece of scum. I'm sure Lesley would rather spend the cash on food, meds and kitten milk etc than replacing a stolen cage.
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agree'd Mark but we probably need to be relistic here :-:
although personally i would be all for sending the heavy's in :evillaugh:
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I've been on another planet too - knew Lesley's cage was missing and put a few bob in the pot, but didn't realise about all of this. How disgusting.
It's possible to try a small claims action to recover the money but I wouldn't rate the prospects of doing it successfully without wasting more money on this individual than she's worth. Think it's worth reporting it to the police though, and alerting the community centre to the fact he/she appears to have been using their services for a little more than the community at large and more for his/her own gain. Doesn't seem like she had much difficulty picking up on how to scam people.
Mind you, if you do have a valid address for her, it's possible to find out whether she owns her own home by carrying out a search at the land registry (which I could do if we know it). If she did, there's be a better chance of isusing proceedings, getting a Judgment and then taking enforcement action by way of a Charge over her house. Only thing is, like I say, it costs more in terms of fees paid to the court than you'd likely recover.
It's sick that people like that exist.
Am happy to make an extra donation at the end of the month to help out with reimbursing for the tents.
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:hug: I think its great how everyone pulls together, now that friends albeit some of us have never met. :rofl: It come back to trust doesn't it. :hug:
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just another thought, do you's think it would be a sensible idea for admin here to notify all the other cat forums we know about with the relevant i'ds / details and a big BEWARE
(i'm thinking, catchat/feline friends/hovel and i think there are a couple of others too.)
I mean there are others in uk that she may be preying on just like she has here.
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agree'd Mark but we probably need to be relistic here :-:
although personally i would be all for sending the heavy's in :evillaugh:
I meant through the proper channels of course - Anyone know any animal rights activists? :evillaugh:
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and to think i was shot down for shutting my cats in their shed for a few hours plus many of us shot down for having a litter tray in the kitchen. Atleast we dont lie and ruddy steal >:(
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Haha i'd forgotten about that Lynn, you terrible terrible woman you! :evillaugh:
Anyone got a spare moral compass? Because there are certain individuals with seriously messed up ideas of moral standards!
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just another thought, do you's think it would be a sensible idea for admin here to notify all the other cat forums we know about with the relevant i'ds / details and a big BEWARE
(i'm thinking, catchat/feline friends/hovel and i think there are a couple of others too.)
I mean there are others in uk that she may be preying on just like she has here.
Forewarned is forearmed, good idea Lynn can't do any harm, they might have this info already, might have been stung themselves, shame
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I wonder if it's worth mentioning to the Cats Protection people as well? They could end up being targeted too.
Why on earth would she do this? >:(
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I actually think she may be a child, just by looking at her posts, the spelling etc.
Les did you actually she her in person?
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and to think i was shot down for shutting my cats in their shed for a few hours plus many of us shot down for having a litter tray in the kitchen. Atleast we dont lie and ruddy steal >:(
Is that what she said to you?
I have two litter trays in kitchen :Crazy: lol
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may be dyslexic?
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and to think i was shot down for shutting my cats in their shed for a few hours plus many of us shot down for having a litter tray in the kitchen. Atleast we dont lie and ruddy steal >:(
Is that what she said to you?
I have two litter trays in kitchen :Crazy: lol
some trolls will say anything just to start the argument :(
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I met someone, supposedly Lisa, in her twenties I would say, with a small chap which I supposed was other half
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no i dont think she could be a child/teenage. All far too devious for that.
Mark yes there was a long debate about kitchen & litter trays ages ago.
Lesley was "lisa" quite a big person ? If its the same one she told us she was very overweight.
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Well she told me she was 19st and her OH was Italian (which I suppose you can tell if someone is Italian) does this fit the description? Or another lie?
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It's sad that some people can sink so low.
I'd really love to help, but having just had to replace some stolen items myself (phone, mp3 player and usb key) I'm well and truly skint for the moment. I know how it feels...
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When I was typing my post I put "quite a large lady" and then deleted it because I though it was rude, but yes she was quite large. :rofl: (why am I worried about being rude about her).
Bloke with her was definitely not Italian.
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Oh god another lie, what was her italian stallion then ?
Mr muscle off the adverts ?? :evillaugh:
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:omg:
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hey!!! that looks like me :(
LOL :)
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hey!!! that looks like me :(
That's not you in your avatar, then?
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or
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not exactly
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What apart from the legs? lol
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not exactly
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What apart from the legs? lol
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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I think it's obvious this person has problem of one kind or another. :tired:
I think motives are more likely to do with mental health issues than anything else. Given these accounts relate to an Adult Educational Institute, that would be my hunch. Maybe this person wanted the cage as they were told by carers they had a keep a kitten in a pen?
Who knows.... speculation isn't going to solve this.
But if we have a concrete address I will try my best to arrange a house call - I wasn't kidding about the Glaswegians. ;) :evillaugh:
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I think it's obvious this person has problem of one kind or another. :tired:
But if we have a concrete address I will try my best to arrange a house call - I wasn't kidding about the Glaswegians. ;) :evillaugh:
I'm shivering at the thought of the big guys turning up, would love to be a fly on the wall :rofl:
What area you in do you want some company on the journey down :rofl: :rofl:
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:rofl: :rofl: Lovin you lot! :evillaugh:
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Yours is the closest Ems.
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OMG!!! have never laughed so much.....that avatar is hillarious :rofl:
but then i get the thought that Christine thought that was you :rofl: :rofl:
Sorry to go off topic :shy:
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Hi hunnies
It awful when we have a person who has upset us all (esp two of us badly) and had our trust betrayed by a "supossed" friend in our community so posts showing our feelings are only natural. It's so sad that there are people out there that do these things esp on the internet and i am one, like most of us on here, who tend to trust people at 1st. Thank god we are in the majority! We gotta be pretty careful in this thread or any other not to post any things that can be seen as a "threat" to anyone.
The collection for Les and Sue is going well so thanks sooo much for all you wonderful peeps for helping. Keep em coming in hunnies cause the more we get the better cage Les gets ;) :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
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No cheque arrived in this mornings post from crazycats aka Lisa aka Mike aka Donna aka Rhea. :censored: :censored: :censored:
Have saved all PM posts & her address but she may have been evicted by now... no replies to my last few attempts. :censored: :censored: :censored:
She lives in Portsmouth apparently but who knows! :censored: :censored: :censored:
I will look into the moneyclaim site & see what happens from there. :censored: :censored: :censored:
Sounds like she is a cunning little :censored: :censored: :censored:
Am going to the Police Station soon & will report back.
How VERY dare she!!! :censored: :censored: :censored:
I can't believe what I've just read here.......what :censored:
Definitely report the incident, it's classed as obtaining goods by deception :censored:
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I actually think she may be a child, just by looking at her posts, the spelling etc.
She is defo not a child.
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Ive been at the other end of the universe recently with my own problems so I cant beleive everythings that gone on!
Im really sorry I cant offer any money as Ive just had my income stopped though work but I hope you can both get something back from this.
If you know where she was using the puter is it possible maybe to contact them and tell them the whole story as if its an adult learning centre it may be that they dont want to be connected with behaviour like this and can trace her from there.
love
Tab
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If you know where she was using the puter is it possible maybe to contact them and tell them the whole story as if its an adult learning centre it may be that they dont want to be connected with behaviour like this and can trace her from there.
love
Tab
Don't know how helpful the centre would be, Data Protection and all that, but others at the centre might be able to shed some light, she may have sent out some sob story to them as well, hope not, but if this is her nature she prob conned loads by now, mores the pity
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It would certainly be against the law to used government property to commit fraud - I think if you gave them all her aliases + a description, they would probably be able to work out who it is and take steps.
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Her real name is Lisa, at least thats the name her Natwest acc is in.
Me and another member sent her a small amount towards Tabs the cat who probably never even existed.
So thats 4 people screwed over by her :censored: :censored: :censored:
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So thats 4 people screwed over by her :censored: :censored: :censored:
.......That we know of >:(
Not to mention all the moral support people gave her when she was supposedly having problems.
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.....that avatar is hillarious :rofl:
but then i get the thought that Christine thought that was you :rofl: :rofl:
No Ruth, I was pulling hOrZa's leg ;) - or should I say his BARK is obviously worse than his BYTE :rofl:
Meanwhile, it may be we are advised to be a bit cautious about what we say on the main matter, as the police may wish to investigate it?
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Her real name is Lisa, at least thats the name her Natwest acc is in.
Me and another member sent her a small amount towards Tabs the cat who probably never even existed.
So thats 4 people screwed over by her :censored: :censored: :censored:
that is awful :(
i really hope she is made to pay back the money and money for cage.
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I have been to the Police where they say it sounds like an all round deliberate deception of theft to all of us.
I have to wait 30days after the deliveries, then, if no payment has arrived they will then contact the Portsmouth police.
Also, I have to send her a e-mail & letter informing her of this.
I hope that all of the posts it is not going to cause legalities within the forum. I understand that we have to be careful. :grouphug:
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Well I'm pleased to hear the Police are taking it seriously ... whether it will do any good is a different matter of course.
Don't forget to put a reminder on your phone or calendar when the 30 days is up to follow it up.
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Just a point, Purrlishious... Make sure the letter is sent Signed For. That way, when it goes to court, she can't then say she never recieved your letter, etc. That is standard excuse one for delaying formal action, I've found in the past chasing clients who don't pay up.
I'd say if MM gives her bank details to the Police, and the Police are willing to take this seriously, eventually everyone will get their property or money back. But it's got to be belt and braces with proceedure.
... but what a :censored: this girl has been giving out her bank details if she'd intended to commit fraud. :rofl:
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I would hope that Lisa sees this topic (as a guest I am sure she will) and realizes the seriousness of her actions or rather lack of them and takes steps to resolve the situation ASAP. It is so sad that it has come to this. The any monies collected can go to purchase more pens to save more cat/kittens.
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Good point Julie. Intent is the key word.
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It may be an idea to inform the learning centre that the fraud has been commited using their equipment, on their premises.
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Threaten to sue the learning centre that might make them wake up.
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glad the police are taking action ;D
how many days has it been since you sent the tents purrlishious?
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From what I understand of public use services, the learning center can't be held responsible for what every Tom, Dick or Harriet uses their PCs for, and I am sure they have disclaimers as to the use already, taking away any liability, however, any possible negative publicity may guide them in the direction of assisting the police. DPA does not apply if a criminal act has been committed to the center would be inclined to provide help if need be.
But again, lets watch how we phrase things here, it could harm any investigation if we speculate further and I think if anything, we want Sue to get a result out of this.
I'm still so narked by this. Really really am. >:(
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I think the learning centre definately need to be informed, she is using their equipment after all. Even if they cant be held liable they can certainly ban her from their premises.
I am very glad and relieved the police are taking this seriously, I wouldnt be surprised if everyone who has had personal contact via online or otherwise are questioned and all relevant information IE bank acc, addresses (all family members addys) email addys etc etc are asked for by the police.
So yes it looks like either Lisa moves her butt very quickly and returns the cage + Dontation i'd say for hire of and also pays purrlishious in full or she gonna have a couple of boys in blue on her doorstep...I sorta hope it does come down to this as from what i can see she needs a serious wake up call.
Lisa.. You could have avoided all of this you silly girl.
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It must be her pregnancy hormones, due in november ya know :evillaugh:
Im glad you are being taken seriously Sue, so often the police dismiss things.
I think contacting the learning centre would be a very good idea, they probably have logs of which member used where. Obviously she wasnt paying £80 a month for virgin broadband.
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It must be her pregnancy hormones, due in november ya know :evillaugh:
who's due MM?
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I just suddenly remembered, and forgive me if the facts of the thread are a bit scatty as I can't find it, but:
Does anyone remember when we were talking about credit cards on a thread and she posted something that really freaked me (that anyone could think so irresponsibly).
The conversation went I think in the vein of increased credit limits etc and people not being able to pay off what they owe (I think) and then she replied (strange how I remember this bit) that she didn't worry about debt, they would just spend on their cards and worry about it later, rather than worry about how to pay them off.
SHould have been a sign.
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Is this where i apply for the £1,000,000 donation to get my cat the medical attention he needs to remove the 3rd eye and treat the fluffy tail syndrome? The only vet that will treat his rare and almost unbelievable symptoms resides on a personal yacht somewhere in the bahamas and the travel costs for my world crusie to get to dr. A.rippoff alone run into the thousands. Im sure you'll take this very seriously and make all cheques payable to... ME!
sorry, couldnt resist :-[
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The plot thickens Ruth. How many more?
I should have listened to my intuition right at the beginning too. Marvellous these little head messages arn't they?? Do we take any notice??
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Norty Ash
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To be fair to you Sue, you couldn't at the time have known it was the same person.
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Whos pregnant and due in november ??????
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Whos pregnant and due in november ??????
That is where I lost the plot too Lynn ;D
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c'mon thats got everyone in suspense now and i need to make supper LOL.
WHO'S PREGGERS ???
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I am but due in December so I don't think it's me they are talking about and my hormones definitely haven't made me steel anything!
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LOL Marie, and congrats i didnt know that.
Come on MM your no playin fair >:( I bloomin hate it when i dont know something :evillaugh:
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On another post she said she has 2 girls and due another in Nov, il have to go find it again....
I reckon the next scam was in regards to the b&w cat that turned up but she couldnt keep without testing for fiv but she couldnt afford it, nobody took the bait that time.
Ash, where do i send the cheque? :-[
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was that when she was disguised as crazycatz MM?
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Found it, sorry to get you so excited lynn! You can make tea now ;D
http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php?topic=5852.0 (http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php?topic=5852.0)
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No way MM...thats a thread that really must be found if its the case. It was well known she told some sob story about not being able to have and not getting to see her nephew (i repeat what i said last week --- good on the sister for not letting "that" be an influence on a young child, she'd not get within half a mile of my kids !!)
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Just catching up with threads, and I can't believe what I'm reading on here :(
I am very pleased however that the Police are taking this seriously, and rightly so, its one thing to dupe people when its just words, but when it involves money and property that makes it theft.
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really witty, I am just flabbergasted she's been "trolling" in so many little neuks and corners, getting people individually and one by one, seems to been picking like pockets of folk aswell and probably held so much hostility to me as i never gave her time of day or pandered to her fabrications.
MM i think that was another big fat lie to be honest. She never once came across like she had any experience or knowledge as a mother / parent / carer of young children what so ever.
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I just suddenly remembered, and forgive me if the facts of the thread are a bit scatty as I can't find it, but:
Does anyone remember when we were talking about credit cards on a thread and she posted something that really freaked me (that anyone could think so irresponsibly).
The conversation went I think in the vein of increased credit limits etc and people not being able to pay off what they owe (I think) and then she replied (strange how I remember this bit) that she didn't worry about debt, they would just spend on their cards and worry about it later, rather than worry about how to pay them off.
SHould have been a sign.
I vaguely remember this as well but don't know who it was that wrote it
It must be her pregnancy hormones, due in november ya know :evillaugh:
Who's hormones, the person accused, maybe she in trouble that how she lied in the first place, still no sympathy with her, poor unborn child, who else she lied too
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The one thing she said a couple of times was she was 12 stone OVER her ideal weight and also that she couldnt have children, combine the two and i'd actually believe her on that one...so i dont think she's pregnant at all.
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really witty, I am just flabbergasted she's been "trolling" in so many little neuks and corners, getting people individually and one by one, seems to been picking like pockets of folk aswell and probably held so much hostility to me as i never gave her time of day or pandered to her fabrications.
I deleted the post lynn cos I checked my chat logs and noticed it was someone else entirely - but given the number of aliases she's had on here, I wouldn't be surprised. Especially since the user name has been deleted from the logs... :tired:
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:rofl: :rofl:
Cant keep up, you guys type faster than I can read, sorry must try harder :rofl:
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oh yes quite possibly then witty, i think there was maybe 6 usernames but of course tan and admin would have to confirm that.
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6! Things just keep on getting bigger.
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oh yes quite possibly then witty, i think there was maybe 6 usernames but of course tan and admin would have to confirm that.
you are kidding? :doh:
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:heeee heeee: speculation. There were a few. How many no idea but we can't guarantee there won't be more.
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all successful forums have to deal with trolls and I don't doubt that more will come :(
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I'm sure someone said six to me..i'll have to check my pm messages ;)
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i think there was maybe 6 usernames
Maybe there are only about 6 real members? the rest may be figments of those 6's ;D imaginations.
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i think there was maybe 6 usernames
Maybe there are only about 6 real members? the rest may be figments of those 6's ;D imaginations.
There on to us chaps leg it :)
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Very sad that thier are people like this in the world but thier are dont know if thier is one already would it be worth seting up a paypal acount for the use of for any furture items. Dont think im being weird or awkward (cant find the right word ) esp in veiw of recent events
changed to jedi one thought it was cute ie
obe - obe one kinobe the star wars thing but not so cute now so going to change very last time :thanks:
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Her real name is Lisa, at least thats the name her Natwest acc is in.
If you have her bank account details then make sure these are passed on to the police, similarly the adult learning centre will surely be aware of someone with her physical description using their computers for prolonged periods of time. While they will not be able to provide this information to any of us they will be able to pass on information to police conducting an investigation of fraud or they will be complicit in the action. I am appalled that anyone would do this sort of thing and wonder if the best way to sort it would be for one of use to provide a central finance point through which all such transactions pass so that we know the money (and goods or services) are being provided in the appropriate order. A huge task for someone and a very responsible one, but this seems the only way we can be sure charlatans do not take advantage of members. For everyone's safety such a service would require multiple signatories, and other safeguards so that if things went wrong, individuals were not placed in a difficulty position.
someone commented that is it not only us she is targetting - that is a reasonable assumption as this is clealry a well-established modus operandum so the police will be interested in this as internet scamming is a high-priority investigation (although admittedly usually the sort where it is overseas people involved). The local police may not act but I am sure Scotland Yard will have a special unit focussing on just this sort of crime.
Perhaps any such transaction could involve a donation to the central fund-raising service and thus moneys could also pass through that process??
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who would have thought lisa forever would get to scotland yard :wow:
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What a busy day....in purrs land.
Cant keep up with the saga...
I've missed any bits that realate to her using a learning centre. Does anyone know which learning centre she goes to in Landport?
I have to admit that her grammar was very child like in her IM's to me, so much so that I didnt understand it at times.
Lesley, how old would you say she was?
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We might even end up on Crime Watch. Must get my highlights done just in case!
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Ooohh yes, i'll tell Cody to spruce up his curls he'd never miss an opportunity ya know :evillaugh:
She said to us she was 24 ish I think, but it was obvious she wasn't academic or perhaps even had learning difficulty's.
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How on earth would we do a reconstruction?????
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can you imagine, they might "shoot" us individually reconstructing us on our computers in our homes :rofl: I'm thinking of the catherine tate type reconstructions of her sketch as the desperate woman who does the online dating :evillaugh:
We could get an efit piccy done aswell
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the desperate woman who does the online dating :evillaugh:
Didn't know they had made a movie about me??? :rofl: :rofl: nothing wrong with on-line dating - works for me... :evillaugh:
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Am glad that the Police will be pursuing your case Sue but was thinking that Lesley should really report the theft of the cage too. The offence is there already, no need to wait 30 days... "A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it".
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Am glad that the Police will be pursuing your case Sue but was thinking that Lesley should really report the theft of the cage too. The offence is there already, no need to wait 30 days... "A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it".
Agree, it will give them something to be getting on with while the time period elapses.
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have you ever watched the catherine tate sketches BC ? they are so funny, she "dates" prisoners on death row or turkish blokes and forwards money to them etc etc and all the while its narrated in a big brother type voice...tickles me anyway :evillaugh:
Oh yes i'd urge lesley to report this also and tell them the same person has been reported to xx police about a separate incident along the same lines from same forum.
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I must tidy my house instead of being on the puter all the time... for the filming of course.
And take my velcro rollers out.
No. 7 have got an offer on 3 for 2 so will need a new lippy...or 2 or 3 just incase I cant decide which 1 to wear on the big day.
We might not need on line dating cos when they see us there will be floods of demands to meet us. The fame, I can see it now.
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Cody is flapping around looking for his setting lotion :rofl:
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have you ever watched the catherine tate sketches BC ? they are so funny, she "dates" prisoners on death row or turkish blokes and forwards money to them etc etc and all the while its narrated in a big brother type voice...tickles me anyway :evillaugh:
Mine are all men who are so wrapped up in their careers that they don't actually have time for dating. Or they have taken up long-distance bicycling to deal with their stress which doesn't help. Or they are cute and adorable but have no clue. By the way, the boy is back on the scene ... that last description reminded me ... :Luv:
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I hadnt realised that this was one and the same person as Crazycats and the others. Makes sense more now 'cos I did wonder at some of her posts. But I still can't get me head around why she would log on using different names and different stories - you have to be very clever to try and keep up with such a multitude of alter egos. Kept thinking about this thread while I was driving home and I kept thinking: "could we have made a mistake?" Maybe she has severe mental health problems? Did she "intend" to take the stuff or is she living some strange fantasy world where she believes the stuff she rattles on about?" But it certainly seems that it's been deliberate. I remember well the thread about her nephew.
I watched a film with Sally Field in it once where she had multiple personalities - it was based on a true story, and each of her "personas" was incredibly real to her.
It'll be interesting to see if the police can do anything. Why on earth would she tell so many different stories and use so many different names? She must have known if people were sending cheques to her they'd have her address and other personal details that might trip her up. Unless it's some bigger elaborate scam and her address is a maildrop?
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I dont think its part of a "bigger" thing as each "crime" is too small if that makes sense, however i do believe she's a seriel small time scammer. I know she used to be on an AOL forum (is aol still on the go ? )
I bet we'd be shocked yet again if we ever knew how many times in her life she has "robbed" other people.
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I watched a film with Sally Field in it once where she had multiple personalities - it was based on a true story, and each of her "personas" was incredibly real to her.
Sue that is really weird, I was going to post about that film but had to go out. It was called cybil - one of my favourites :Crazy:
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Yeah, think you're right Lynn. Just seems so..... bizarre. It's like having some creepy perv prowling through your cupboards and drawers when you're not looking. She's stolen from people who cared, and people who trusted. What a sad woman.
Yes - that was it Mark, Cybil. It was a disturbing film, but very good. She'd suffered horrendous abuse as a child. Weird how we both thought of that!
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you've hit the nail i think sue, it does feel like we've been invaded and someone snooping through our stuff :(
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None of it would fit if you can believe "Lisa" persona :evillaugh:
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Just been ploughing thro all this but in the wrong order at times! :shify: :shify:
As far as we know all the IP addresses have been banned from Purrs but if you know of any names that may belong to the offending party please pm me, just incase you have seen some that we havent!
I think that this is all so very very sad that someone has been so devious as to steal from the good natured people here on Purrs.
We must take our security seriously in the future and basic things to think about, which may sound obvious but just to think about:
When sending goods ensure you get a certificate of posting for every item
Get the money first before sending out anything
If you see anything suspicious on Purrs tell an admin or a mod..........................its Ok all those with blue stars arent really suspicious :rofl: :rofl:
And anything else anyone can add to the list.
I am so pleased that Purrlicious has gone to the police with this matter and hope that in the meantime the donations will be enough to reimburse both Lesley for the crate and also Sue for the tents.
As you know Tan takes this site and its work very seriously and I am sure none of you would wish to see Purrs getting a bad name. We endeavour to check people before they join but there is a limit we can do. Any trolls will be expelled immediately and also anyone who steals from the membership.
I know this matter has put a cloud over us but we are strong and together we will win against those who try to pull us apart. Purrs is still only 9 months old and so much has been achieved by all of you out there.
Thank you to all our honest and cat loving members.
Long live Purrs and all who sail in her ;D
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its Ok all those with blue stars arent really suspicious
Well :shify:............................
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Good points Gill. Think that's what's P***ing so many of us off is the fact Tan works so hard keeping this forum the very special place that it is, and after so many people joined here after Cat Chat Towers closed their forum (bless their hearts) we felt like we had a safe haven, somewhere very much a home from home, and then someone tries to mess it all up for God only knows what purpose! Thankfully, you're right - Purrs members are strong, they work well together and what's been achieved here since November 2006 is hard to beat.
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Lynn! :shify: :-[ :rofl:
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Here here Gill... well said. Raise your glasses to 'PURRS' cheers!
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Well ............................
I prefer our yellow (ish) stars, don't you Lynn?
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Ooo Sue - :drink: :beer: :bye: :drink: Don't let Ruth see.... :evillaugh: She thinks I'm a plonkie! ;)
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I know this matter has put a cloud over us but we are strong and together we will win against those who try to pull us apart. Purrs is still only 9 months old and so much has been achieved by all of you out there.
Although a terrible few days this will I am sure make us stronger and bonded, also valuable lessons will be learned.
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well i'd prefer black myself but ya should know me by now :rofl:
those with blue starts arent really suspicious but dont tell them i said that :evillaugh:
I totally agree with ela's last sentiments.
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One thing comes to mind- multiple personality disorder :rofl:
Why waste your time, I couldn't be arsed!
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We unite in genuine friendship...
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :Luv: Love you lot. You're the best!
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and to think i was shot down for shutting my cats in their shed for a few hours plus many of us shot down for having a litter tray in the kitchen. Atleast we dont lie and ruddy steal >:(
Is that what she said to you?
I have two litter trays in kitchen :Crazy: lol
Just as well I haven't mentioned that I have 2 trays in the kitchen and 1 in the bathroom. I live in a ground floor 1 bedroom flat and there is not a lot of places I can put the trays.
I think its despicable what she's done.
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Who gives a pooey anyway, who is she?
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just catching up on this - am so shocked and angry >:( really hope we can reimburse people who've lost money through doing a really kind thing for the rest of us (grateful for details on how to do this safely as I am technologically incompetent!).
Just want to say a big thank you to Purrlicious :thanks: for going out of her way to help those of us who don't live near an Ikea and hope that this doesn't put anyone off from being generous :hug:.
always did think that the business about not seeing her "nephew" was weird... :Crazy:
don't think we should waste anymore time on this :censored: I'm a firm believer in what goes around comes around but a real shame that everyone's probably thinking "hmm, and I wonder who she is?" :(...
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the slight down side of getting the money before sending the goods is that what if the scammer is the seller? I like the idea of purrs working as a sort of enscrow system they tell you if the money there, send the goods you tell them goods arrived and purrs release the money
yes no??
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I think we all know who she is, what we dont know is what user name she could be conning us with.
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the slight down side of getting the money before sending the goods is that what if the scammer is the seller? I like the idea of purrs working as a sort of enscrow system they tell you if the money there, send the goods you tell them goods arrived and purrs release the money
yes no??
Sounds a good idea but not fair on admin as most are busy enough to start with. Different when its raising money for a charity. The auction for Ron last christmas went without a hitch and dozens of items were sold. Hard work for Gill & Tan though
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They could nominate someone (lifelong purrs catchat user) to do it
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Some how I dont think the seller would be the scammer.............famous last :censored: words cos of course we may have trusted a certain someone before >:( >:(
Yes the auction went well but it does run on trust, I hope one bad apple does not attract a barrelful. We have run two auctions now both of them went well..............i nervous now grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Tan and I will have to thing think seriously about the escrow thingy.
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the slight down side of getting the money before sending the goods is that what if the scammer is the seller? I like the idea of purrs working as a sort of enscrow system they tell you if the money there, send the goods you tell them goods arrived and purrs release the money
yes no??
Yes, I think so. I personally will continue to trust dozens of people on here, whom I know now, but as the site grows, perhaps we have to put more safeguards in place...
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its Ok all those with blue stars arent really suspicious
Well :shify:............................
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Oi and here you call yourself my mate! Sue.. you plonkie (at least I think you meant me!) Or maybe other Ruth... mmm what she know we don't he?
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I happy enough to have Purrs account be a go between things like this when we have a big order for a toy that another member is getting for us etc. Have been collecting doantions etc from peeps re our fundraisers for a while now on CC and now Purrs so you can trust completely the money will go to whim it is intended. I run Purrs as a non profit business as 100% goes to cat rescue so every penny coming in and out is recorded and included in annual accounts. As i am an accountant i can do this easily. Basically any other transcations re toys etc will be recorded as coming in then going straight out to the seller and the guide lines Gill mentioned are good for anyone buying or selling something posted on Purrs. There are some very trusted other things we are doing at the mo like the Cat77 swap shop. They use their own paypal account for the trust and it does go straight to them.
Thing is at the mo it would be alot of work to do individual selling and we don;t want Purrs turning into a mini ebay so any goods peeps have to sell and the proceeds go to a rescue are best placed in the cat77 swap shop pr saved for our xmas auctions.
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But for one things like the Ikea tent would it be ok? as this was done because for many members an ikea is too far off and ebay sellers mark up :(
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In future, maybe the best bet is if somebody can get multiple things that there is a demand for, they sell to Tan at cost and they can be bought through the shop.
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Who gives a poo anyway, who is she?
Someone our cats would happily bury in their litter trays if you ask me ...
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In future, maybe the best bet is if somebody can get multiple things that there is a demand for, they sell to Tan at cost and they can be bought through the shop.
Can't say that's a bad idea. What you think Tannibal?
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In future, maybe the best bet is if somebody can get multiple things that there is a demand for, they sell to Tan at cost and they can be bought through the shop.
Yep second this :) if its accepted then everyone wins :)
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It could work. The only concern for larger items is getting them to Tan in the first place... :um:
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In future, maybe the best bet is if somebody can get multiple things that there is a demand for, they sell to Tan at cost and they can be bought through the shop.
Yes thats brill i am def up for that but i would mark cost up by 50p so the cat rescues get a bit out of it ;) :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh: Plus the postage in UK that would have got added on the price anyway.
Great idea Marky lad.
Best get that shop finished hey! Then on to the diary ;D
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As much as I've enjoyed the conversation as a whole, and by jove we all have a right to be angy and express ourselves, but we have given this person over 200 posts of our time today. Today!!! 200!!! How comes Lexy's poo watch doesn't get this much attention. Boss I protest!!! :P
Tannibal, shop... finished.. in time.. Tanni...eek!!!
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mark cost up by 50p
This goes without saying by 50p at least
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We may have given time to this but alot was covered and some good has come from it :)
right everyone off to the poo watch thread ;)
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Hmmm yes ceiling scratchin posts maybe a prob ;) :rofl: but def ok for smaller or light items.
It means with the shop like anyother online shop, you order and pay for the goods at the same time. If they are just stock items they can be dispatched the next day or same day if early enough and with any of the purrsonalised Items (stuff ya no know about yet) :evillaugh: as i need to add your pics to the goods, they will take a few days longer to do and dispatch.
The Purrs shop will sepcialize in Purrsonal stuff (personalized but the Purrs way lol :rofl: ie with your own cats on) Not that you didn't know what personaised stuff was :-: :shify: hmm better go play with lads for 5 mins :rofl:
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We may have given time to this but alot was covered and some good has come from it :)
right everyone off to the poo watch thread ;)
About time! Well, she's not on poo watch tonight... :evillaugh:
And yes lots of good coming out of it. Just never ceases to amaze me how this group of amazing people pulls together whenever we need to.
What a team heh!
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But could the person who buys the bigger items just hold the stock there and do the cash received dispatch from there ?
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Group hug everyone!!! :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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And yes lots of good coming out of it. Just never ceases to amaze me how this group of amazing people pulls together whenever we need to.
What a team heh!
Yes it gives you a warm bubbly feeling or was that something i ate :rofl:
Na seriously you lot are simply winderful wonderful ;) :Luv:
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I'm back :) where is the poo watch thread please people :)
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:evillaugh: about 1 month ago Rob
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Just for you Rob: http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php?topic=5468.0
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You know that thread deserved more attention, its the coolest thread :)
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You know that thread deserved more attention, its the coolest thread :)
Why TYVM. Lexy agrees. :evillaugh:
PS. Ela got your check today. Sending your paypal payment for you now.
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I think a lot of good has come out of this thread, we know of the problems and the concerns and we have ideas how to make things better for the future ;D
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Yep, Gill, wasn't disagreeing with the thread in general, just that we've given her this much attention again, which we know she craved. But as you say, good has come of it and that's what matters. Don't mind me, I just a suspicious blue star... :evillaugh:
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i thought the same as rob..the person holds the stock at their own house but the cash side of thing go through the shop..to be honest the tent thing isnt something that has commonly happened so i dont see too much problems in the future.
Re the seller could be the scammer well your not going to send money off to someone unless you really trust them and if i'm honest i've known lots of folk for over a year here and theres maybe less than 20 i'd send money too..not coz i suspect the others but i dont know them well enough.
ebay works because of the ratings, well i dont buy stuff from folk who have poor ratings although theres always a risk it does help. (that wouldnt be possible on here coz we arent going to be buying and selling on a regular basis.)
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In future, maybe the best bet is if somebody can get multiple things that there is a demand for, they sell to Tan at cost and they can be bought through the shop.
Yes thats brill i am def up for that but i would mark cost up by 50p so the cat rescues get a bit out of it ;) :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh: Plus the postage in UK that would have got added on the price anyway.
Great idea Marky lad.
Best get that shop finished hey! Then on to the diary ;D
That was the idea - more than 50p though! :evillaugh:
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Yes a suspicious blue star :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Now i gonna be veryyyyyyyyyyyyy illegal here and Sue please forgive me, but there is one person out there over and above the unmentionable one, whose money has not been recieved for a tent. Will you please get in touch immediately with Sue as you promised.
The money has still not been recieved and I would hate to think we have any others still owing money this long after the event.
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so theres two people who havent coughed up for the tents..come on guys if you thought you couldnt have afforded it then you shouldnt have expected sue to afford it for you !!!!
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Now i gonna be veryyyyyyyyyyyyy illegal here and Sue please forgive me, but there is one person out there over and above the unmentionable one, whose money has not been recieved for a tent. Will you please get in touch immediately with Sue as you promised.
The money has still not been recieved and I would hate to think we have any others still owing money this long after the event.
As the thread says, Gill - Name & Shame :evillaugh:
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Sorry mark, cant do that but I am sure the person knows who they are >:( >:(
Its really not good enough for this to be happening and I hope that the money is recieved by Sue tomorrow >:(
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Yes Ruth - of course I meant you....! :evillaugh:
Think the escrow idea's a good one, but can see why it's a lot of hard work. Like we were saying earlier, that's one of the stinkiest bits - everyone in the background, Tan, Chap Tan, all the mods and administrators - hell, everyone in the main, work their socks off to make this a cracking little site and then someone has to take more than a lend and do something like this to others. And of course it makes you more suspicious. How're we gonna know she isn't back at some point in the future? Well apart from some potentially obvious giveaways.....
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Thank you, it won't bounce, promise.
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whose money has not been recieved for a tent.
It seems almost impossible to believe if that person has been on-line and seen this topic they have not coughed up. Had it been me I would be quaking in my boots by now. I suppose it is possible that a cheque could have been lost in the post. I know lately the post has had many problems. Our vets sent (at the same time) our Treasurer last months bill and me a copy, our Treasurer received hers a week before me.
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There is every chance he/she isn't even aware that the payment is lost
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I'm all nervous now :scared:
Are you definately sure you got my second cheque? (first one I had not written the amount on it) Me dont want to be booted off!! :'(
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I just double checked my paypal account ;)
Just to be sure.
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Me dont want to be booted off!!
I am sure one would only 'be expelled' for lies, theft and trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes. Genuine errors are forgivable and understandable.
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If Sue hasn't already emailed the person in question to let them know, then the Admins can push. But no point in us speculating. Rob said it: they may not even be aware of this.
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No cheques arrived this morning either.
Dont worry Mojo or Auferstehen its not you.. If anyone else is worried I would have contacted you so your all ok. The persons involved have been notified.
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No cheques arrived this morning either.
Dont worry Mojo or Auferstehen its not you.. If anyone else is worried I would have contacted you so your all ok. The persons involved have been notified.
Figured you would have but we've had fun with my OH's new card, he forgot that he had to update everything ;)
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maybe they're another form of crazy/lisa/rhea/donna/etc.. :rofl:
i'm joking btw :evillaugh:
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But you might not be wrong :(
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Not me is it? No I didnt ask for one, my gosh my memory
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Not me is it? No I didnt ask for one, my gosh my memory
thats what i started thinking CC :rofl:
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Me too :rofl: No i definately havent got a ikea tent :evillaugh:
Out of interest how many bloomin tents did you buy ? they must have thought you were nuts :evillaugh:
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Not me is it? No I didnt ask for one,
Nor me.
Out of interest how many bloomin tents did you buy ? they must have thought you were nuts
Its on here somewhere, was it 28?
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I was worried it was me cos I did ask for one, but nobody got in touch to ask for my address etc, and I don't think anyone here already has it :-:
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Its on here somewhere, was it 28?
I believe it was 28 :Crazy: I have a blue one (it's great, Blip loves it) and I sent my cheque by return (I know Sue got it because she said so). :shy:
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Karen I'm so sorry you havent a tent. If you didnt send me your address through PM or e-mail I wouldnt have know you still wanted one. I can still organise that though if you still do & send me you address with full name please. Payment through Paypal is ok if you have this or I shall have to ask for a cheque first. Sorry to ask that.
I went & got another 10 as my breeder friend wanted some for kittening pens making 12 in all but could still send you one as I need to go back to 'IKEA' to take something back. Ugh!
In total I have had in my hands
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Can a techie person tell me if it is possible to sabotage or hack into anothers persons pc? Since these posts were put up my laptop is acting wierd. I do have anti virus but have had to do a whole maintence job. It's scaring me now?
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Yes it is possible to hack into your PC, anti virus on its own will not stop a hacker (correct term is cracker, hacker is a programmer, is digress).
unplug from internet and see if still acts weird, what anti-virus are you using? (please don't say norton :()
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Yes it is possible to hack into your PC, anti virus on its own will not stop a hacker (correct term is cracker, hacker is a programmer, is digress).
unplug from internet and see if still acts weird, what anti-virus are you using? (please don't say norton :()
whats wrong with norton? thats what i use?
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i thought you couldnt pick up any thing unless you clicked on particular websites or emails ?
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Thanks for that hOrZa, now am more paranoid.
Karen on another post has said hers crashed...or is that just a coincidence?
Have got AVG anti virus + spyware
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nope windows unfortunately leaks and all the best hackers now ways in :(, how many people are using IE6 there is no more security patches being done for this you need to upgrade to IE7, and even if your using IE7 it uses a Microsoft gadget called active x, this alone allows script kiddies to run malicious script on your machine :( websites and emails don't help but even reputable websites get hacked and there code compromissed.
Norton is bloated, slow, easy to disable,easy to go wrong and they (Norton) even know of a two viruses they haven't bothered to fix due to it affecting Nortons software to do so
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But no firewall? except maybe windows own?
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I didn't PM anyone, Purrlishious. Just mentioned it in the thread about them. Don't go to any trouble though, if you happen to get hold of anymore just let me know please. I can pay for it by paypal.
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If it is any consolation my computer also went weird on me last night and the BT help-desk (with whom I am on first name terms with at this stage) told me it was the Norton Firewall that was blocking my access to the web. I have turned it off and turned on the Windows one on the basis that my preferred antivirus software also has a firewall and so am back on line. I am planning to ring the tech support people who came free with the new computer to uninstall NOrton as soon as possible (tried to do it myself but could not find Norton as an option to uninstall). There are some very strange things happening on my computer (old and new) and at this stage I have just resigned myself to paying for a tech support service to help me fix it as i go along ...
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I have been told many a time fire fox is a very good browser to stop anything unwanted Norton and bullgard are heavy on the pcs
I use CA Internet Security Suite myself which works quite well was recomended by someone i know who is very net savy shall we say
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yep - mine is NOD32 and came highly recommended by my computer techs in NZ who I had a good relationship with. You can get a free 30 day trial and then the fee is very reasonable ('cos its in NZ dollars tee hee)
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May i add as a free one if you must AVG is the best Though would revomemend to all to use (spybot search and destroy ) This is one of the best ant spyware around most of all its free though donations are welcomed for any amount just put (spybot search and destroy ) into google etc and you will get the download site ;)
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This thread is soon to be a major motion picture, folks! :wow: :angel:
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Blackcat - I had the same problem with Norton. Couldn't uninstall it, didn't recognise my subscription and sod all help from their "helpdesk".
Horza and Nick helped me out with the bother I was having. Have got AVG free edition now and it's fine (touch wood).
By the way, how do you find out what edition of IE your computer uses?
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I think if you go to the file menu and look at the bottom where it says properties?? No idea really I am learning way more about the inner workings of my computer at present than I want to. ..
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Norton is horrible and cant unistall it on my puter either, it seems to be written into the set up. Thro DOS my sister managed to dump some fikes but its still causing me a problem grrrrrrrrrr
I am not changing to IE 7, no way, will not, nooooooooo. :sick:
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Think this thread should be renamed :rofl: :rofl:
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Nah, we're just getting our equilibrium back after the horrors of finding out one of us was not so much of a nice person ...
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equi what :rofl: :rofl:
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oh yes equilibrium, I think Sasa is trying to get hers back ;D
If anyone is looking in who hasnt paid, get that money sent and contact Sue >:( >:( >:( >:(
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A recorded letter has been sent to our many alias's persona co; of her parents if that will do any good. We will see!
No other cheque arrived either. Bum!
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of her parents
She said her dad died when she was 7 (ish) and the house she lived in had been left to her by him. So I am confused
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what Ela :Crazy:
when did that little piece of info come out :evillaugh:
so she was left the house by her deceased father and her parter was left their now house by his deceased father WOW hows that for spooky :sneaky:
I'm not surprised she sat like lady muck watching the decorators , they must have been rolling in cash -- shame they couldnt afford cat neutering or cat cage eh :tired:
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so she was left the house by her deceased father and her parter was left their now house by his deceased father WOW hows that for spooky
She said that once perhaps when I posted about some council houses only allowing 1 cat.
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:-Just found posted March 11th:-
I'm Sorry Ela but my house isnt council it was left to me by my father when he died
oh and the council here let u have 2 pets but many people have more
See I knew I was not just a pretty face, part of my memory bank still works as well.
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Do you think she ever remembered any of her lies or just ad lib'd ?
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was left their now house by his deceased father
I think she just said he had left money not a house.
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I guess the one about parents dying and leaving houses needs to take a break for a while ;D
I managed to remove Norton ok, but my subscription had expired so that maybe makes a difference.
Gill - I took the plunge and have IE 7 and it's ok. Really! Not had any problems at all and after a bit of fiddling around have got it to look pretty much the same as IE6.
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Has the other non-payer paid yet? have you checked to see when they were last on here?
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cheque and card sent to you today should arrive tommorow morning thank u
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yes all of them arrived
how much do i owe u all together
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Well I am still hoping Lisa will see sense and pay up for the pen and the cats tents. She must know by now that things will not get any better for her until she does. I know I am a softie but I do feel a little sorry for her. For someone to be in such a mess must be a terrible strain albeit self inflicted.
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I agree Ela ... I'm also a softie and try to see the good in everyone. She obviously has some problems and unfortuantely the bigger web of lies she spins the harder it is to ask for help.
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:-Just found posted March 11th:-
I'm Sorry Ela but my house isnt council it was left to me by my father when he died
oh and the council here let u have 2 pets but many people have more
See I knew I was not just a pretty face, part of my memory bank still works as well.
:evillaugh:
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Did my husband send you that out of the family album?
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Yes Ela, he said it was the best one he could find :evillaugh:
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Yes Ela, he said it was the best one he could find
That could well be because it is the best one and the one showing the most likeness. I don't usually look good in pics ;D
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;D
Nice pic, ela!
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You look a bit pale, Ela. Are you getting enough veg in your diet? :innocent:
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Nice pic, ela!
I know, however I did not have enough time to put all my makeup on, so it does not show me quite at my best. Then again why should you lot not see me as my husband does in the morning. Perhaps that is why he tries to be out by the time I get up.
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Are you getting enough veg in your diet
I have not been too well
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hi peeps just come back from hols and was catching up.
it makes me so angry that anyone could do this to someone else! these people did this out of the kindness of their hearts and for it to be thrown back in their face! >:(
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the house she lived in had been left to her by him
Thats a lie, she doesnt own the house at the address i mailed too.
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the house she lived in had been left to her by him
Thats a lie, she doesnt own the house at the address i mailed too
So we now understand, sadly it would seem that very little truth was told. Almost a Walter Mitty character. I just wish she would come clean. Surely it must be playing on her mind. Far better in my opinion to hold your hands up and say sorry. I usually say there are no problems only solutions, but I think this one may the exception to the rule.
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This is information gathered from Sue (Paddysmum) who has been so kind to find this out, which, you may find very interesting.
Hi Sue
Okay, got the info back this morning. The address of .............................................Hampshire is registered at H M Land Registry under title number P162823. It comprises freehold land only, described on the office copies as "................. Street, Landport".
It is owned by the Lord Mayor Aldermen and Citizens of the City of Portsmouth.
There is no leasehold.
Effectively this means the property is owned by the local authority.
It is not in private ownership as there is no leasehold title information (sometimes a body can own a freehold - ie the land on which a building stands while someone else can own the leasehold - usually the building or premises which are built on the land. As no leasehold info is available it's reasonable to conclude that the freehold is all that exists and the council own both the land and any building erected on it.
Sorry this isn't more positive, but it looks very much as if she's fibbed about owning their own home too.
Sorry hun had to edit to take out addy on public thread. :Luv:
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How does this not surprise me :tired:
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Oh Sue what a tangled web :-[
Any news on your other missing payment yet?
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Doesnt surprise me.
When she was posting as CrazyCatz she was probably talking about PTS her own pets from the council house then?
>:(
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Doesnt surprise me.
When she was posting as CrazyCatz she was probably talking about PTS her own pets from the council house then?
>:(
I hope not Dawn :(
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I have often wondered if "Sarah", the person with the cats, was just another alias, as the only contact ever made with her by anyone was by text message I think.
The thing is, if I had offered to take the cats, who would have handed them over to me, seeing as I had met "Lisa".
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Lesley I was just thinking that!
I bet one of Lisas cats had kittens :sneaky:
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Well, there was the thread about the one she thought was pregnant when it was due to be spayed, and if it was she would let her have them and her mum and her sister (who I didn't think she was talking to) were going to have kittens. (I think it was Lisa who posted, I get all confused now :Crazy:)
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I have tracked the registered letter I sent to 'Lisa' through Royal Mail & although it says delivered, a electronic signiture can not viewed as yet & may take up to 5 days to show.
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I have often wondered if "Sarah", the person with the cats, was just another alias, as the only contact ever made with her by anyone was by text message I think.
The thing is, if I had offered to take the cats, who would have handed them over to me, seeing as I had met "Lisa".
I do think Sarah was someone else. I had a few texts off her and she said Lisa had contacted her out of the blue. She was always asking her about getting her cats spayed/neutered and Sarah didn't appreciate someone telling her how to look after her cats so didn't keep in touch with her.........apparently that is :tired:
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oh yes lesley that indeed would have been the one named maloski or something like that. She couldnt afford to have the cat spayed and a voucher was kindly made available then there was all this odd to'ing and fro'ing (alledgedly) and no one knowing if the cat was or wasnt pregnant and then her affording 50 odd quid for a scan "just in case"
The cat was spayed and as far as i am aware that can be confirmed (i think) Of course she had around 5 cats i'm sure :-:
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I have often wondered if "Sarah", the person with the cats, was just another alias, as the only contact ever made with her by anyone was by text message I think.
The thing is, if I had offered to take the cats, who would have handed them over to me, seeing as I had met "Lisa".
Possible - she had enough mobile phones (see swap shop) on the go, so she could easily have a few mobile numbers.
Sorry - I said I wouldnt speculate again!
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Well, there was the thread about the one she thought was pregnant when it was due to be spayed, and if it was she would let her have them and her mum and her sister (who I didn't think she was talking to) were going to have kittens.
That was Mokosi and Makosi was definitely spayed, trust me.
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See, it's just my suspicious mind working again. :shify:
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Anybody down Portsmouth way this weekend?
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Yes i thought that was the case Ela.
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I am sure if the Police asked us lot to solve a murder we would be able to in no time. ;D
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The cat was spayed and as far as i am aware that can be confirmed (i think) Of course she had around 5 cats i'm sure :-:
Just found a PM Lisa sent me and her "signature" was
MUMMY TO TODD THE DOG AND MOLLY,BAILEY,BRIDIE,FLOSSY
,PICKLES,MAKOSI AND MAX THE CATS
So thats 7 cats (i think)
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Lesley have you been round to try and collect the cage? Or is it a stupidly long journey. If you go please take a video of her face :rofl:
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That's what I was thinking of this weekend, but I'm not going alone :scared:
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Yes definately take someone with you. I would also not go this weekend as no doubt this is being watched, wouldnt want to ruin the surprise!
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I would come with you Lesley but I'm 100's of miles away!
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well if she were to get funny atleast you'd have a distinct advantage of being physically able to run away :rofl:
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hate to be a party pooper here, but given that this is now a matter that has been referred to the police it might be more appropriate to let them know that a letter sent to that address has been received and signed for - that way they have somewhere to start their investigations. I am more than a little uncomfortable with going to the woman's front door and confronting her in these circumstances as it may compromise any future legal action ... Sorry, but I spend a lot of time with lawyers, and this is my opinion based on past experiences....
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well if she were to get funny atleast you'd have a distinct advantage of being physically able to run away :rofl:
actually just choked on my drink when i read this :rofl: :rofl:
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I have had another thought in that the cage and the money could be taken to a vets around the corner from where I met Lisa, Animed in Arundel Street. They know me in there and all that would have to be said is that the cage was on loan and it was asked to be returned there so tht I could collect it.
This would save any unpleasant visitsm to collect said cage or from the Police regarding the non payment for the tents.
Just an idea I thought I would put in writing here if anyone was interested.
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LOL Sarah..i've told you to be careful with those ice cubes ;) :evillaugh:
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Blackcat makes a valid point, methinks.
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Blackcat makes a valid point, methinks.
I second that. Let the police deal with it (even if you were jesting). Would hate to think that this person would get away with it because we as a group have hampered it. Not preaching. Promise ;)
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I have had another thought in that the cage and the money could be taken to a vets around the corner from where I met Lisa, Animed in Arundel Street. They know me in there and all that would have to be said is that the cage was on loan and it was asked to be returned there so tht I could collect it.
This would save any unpleasant visitsm to collect said cage or from the Police regarding the non payment for the tents.
Just an idea I thought I would put in writing here if anyone was interested.
That would conclude this matter in a sensible manner, wouldn't it?
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Having read the general gist of this topic I'm pretty disgusted. >:( I wanted one of the tents, but other financial issues prevented it - so I PMd Purrlishious and let her know that the tent she was holding could go to someone else, because I didn't know how long she'd have to wait for my money. Hope it didn't go to them.
And CC, you aren't daft, just trusting. I sent a couple of PMs to whoever the heck it is (Lisa,Crazycatz) if I remember rightly. My partner says I'm naive as I tend to be quite trusting, but for all the idiots that get a bit of information about you, there's two people that are genuine. So I think despite what's happened, I'll continue in my naivety! ;D
Purrlishious, I'm so sorry that you're so much out of pocket. And stealing from a rescue too...shame on them!
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I have had another thought in that the cage and the money could be taken to a vets around the corner from where I met Lisa, Animed in Arundel Street. They know me in there and all that would have to be said is that the cage was on loan and it was asked to be returned there so tht I could collect it.
This would save any unpleasant visitsm to collect said cage or from the Police regarding the non payment for the tents.
Just an idea I thought I would put in writing here if anyone was interested.
That would conclude this matter in a sensible manner, wouldn't it?
Just to add, I hope a certain person reads this, acts on it and can learn a lesson from it.
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FAO Jack s- things were said between us, me and whoever this person is, and I now feel pretty sad that they would lie about what was said. Speeking from my own personal experience its not a nice thing to have to face and I dont know why anyone would lie about it (wnat was said).
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Having read the general gist of this topic I'm pretty disgusted. >:( I wanted one of the tents, but other financial issues prevented it - so I PMd Purrlishious and let her know that the tent she was holding could go to someone else, because I didn't know how long she'd have to wait for my money. Hope it didn't go to them.
And CC, you aren't daft, just trusting. I sent a couple of PMs to whoever the heck it is (Lisa,Crazycatz) if I remember rightly. My partner says I'm naive as I tend to be quite trusting, but for all the idiots that get a bit of information about you, there's two people that are genuine. So I think despite what's happened, I'll continue in my naivety! ;D
Purrlishious, I'm so sorry that you're so much out of pocket. And stealing from a rescue too...shame on them!
Your not naive JS ... well no more than any of us :innocent: If naivity means you are open, honest and trusting then it's not such a bad thing really. I'm like you and tend to be quite trusting. Usually my gut instinct and female intuition sees me OK but obviously in this case she managed to get under everyones radar and dupe us all :( Such a shame.
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I haven't read everything that's been written concerning the Lisa/Crazycats/whoever issue, but it has been said that she "claimed" to have suffered from depression, and members have sent texts to her and had replies from her OH saying that she is "ill".
I know that we're all feeling miffed at having the wool pulled over our eyes, but this person is obviously ill. Okay, I realise that may have been another lie, but let's be charitable here.
Depression is Hell!
I was depressed about 3years ago for a whole year, as I had to see a neuropsychiatrist for diagnosis and treatment because all anti-depressants lower my seizure threshold, if it hadn't been for Polly and Sam, I would have killed myself during that time. I couldn't help it. It wasn't that anything was wrong with my life, it was mucked up brain chemistry. Luckily, the pills worked.
Therefore, I can't help feeling that we're being harsh. Okay, she has left some people out of pocket, but when you're depressed you don't care about your responsibilities (except the cats) and it's hard work to just eat. So taking care of her financial affairs would be the last thing on her mind. If they're on her mind, she won't be motivated to act.
Personally, I think we should be more sympathetic. Okay, maybe I've been taken in by her "depression" line; but isn't it better to treat this as genuine, just in case it is and she DOES read this? After all, we don't call a troll a troll incase we're wrong.
Sorry if I've spoken out of turn, but I think some of this is becoming nasty.
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I haven't read everything that's been written concerning the Lisa/Crazycats/whoever issue, but it has been said that she "claimed" to have suffered from depression, and members have sent texts to her and had replies from her OH saying that she is "ill".
I was not going to make it public but I did not contact her she contact me by phone and was on the phone for over 18 mins. I am not prepared to write what was discussed but I will say that she knew perfectly what she was doing, and saying and also knew a way to resolve the matter.
I myself have suffered depression after being stuck in a lift alone that went haywire going up and down at great speed then eventually stopping by a brick wall, so I know all about that and what it does to you believe me.
but let's be charitable here.
That is the problem people were charitable to her and she abused it.
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I understand what you are saying HippyKitty but unless you have been involved in all the threads (including the deleted ones) it is difficult to get a full picture of the situation. I, too, feel sorry for her in a way, but many of the things posted on here by them/her were vicious and hurtful towards me and, depression or no depression, I do not feel I deserved that and I am sure I am not the only one who feels they were treated in this way, when all they were trying to do was help someone.
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Hippykitty, I echo what Lesley has said, you need to have read all threads to understand exactly what went on. This girl logged on here through various usernames to cause corruption and arguments, frequently.
As Ela said, people have been so kind to her and she's thrown it back in their faces, if it was me, I would not be giving the benefit of the doubt, depression or no depression, she's an adult, she should face up to her responsibities, she has made her bed, she can now lie on it.
And if you think what we have said about her is 'nasty,' you wouldn't want to hear what she's said about us :(
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I would also add that it is not being out of pocket that has "miffed" me, though being a one man band rescue, every penny does count, it is the slating of me and my rescue efforts that "miffed" me. :censored: :censored: :censored: Her actions have also meant I have been unable to other cats, namely the ones that started all this. :censored: :censored:
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you wouldn't want to hear what she's said about us
And threatening to report one of us (me) to the police for doing something that was a figment of her imagination.
I actually wish she had as then they would have been able to access all posts even those deleted by admin and they would have shown what she was really like. As for me I have often said I feel sorry for the girl and when posts were sometimes a little robust (possibly deservedly) I have posted that perhaps it should not have been said.
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I've followed most of the threads concerning her identity, but was not aware that she had previously caused trouble. I certainly wasn't aware of any problems she'd caused to your rescue, Lesley, but then I don't go into the rescue department on purrs as there is little I can do, so it just upsets me.
I can only say that when I was depressed I saw everything through dark glasses in the sense that everything my friends said or did I gave bad meanings to. I gave them an awful time. But they were aware that I was ill and took it on the chin and are still my friends.
Of course, she could have been lying about her depression; but what if she was telling the truth? We don't usually call the bluff of a troll, but give them help, just in case.
I bow to your better judgement. But what does all this bitterness say about us, and what does it achieve?
Why don't we rise above this?
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She deserves no "bleeding heart" sympathy. For a supposed animal lover, she hasn't shown it very well. apart from all the jekyll & hyde stuff and conning sue out of 8 or so tents, the main thing is that she didn't return Lesley's one & only cage that is used to RESCUE CATS - that alone is unforgivable.
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I think the wonderful way everyone has rallied round to get me a new cage, and now wanting to reimburse Purllishious from this fund as well, has shown that we have risen above it.
The genuine members of Purrs are kind, generous and like a family that I am very proud to be part of, and yes, I DO get angry when someone trys to destroy that. >:(
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Why don't we rise above this?
Very difficult in this case.
I am sure if you knew everything that had gone on and read all the posts she made during her few months you may understand why people are feeling how they are.
I don't wish to sound harsh but sometimes it is very difficult. this person posted 2527 times between March and June and many of the posts members found very hard to believe. In fact many times it was proved in later posts that the original post was untrue. Some of the topics went on for weeks and people got sick of it yet they held their tongue. Then she started to post in different names and one name would try to defend another name she had posted in. She has over the months caused ructions time and time again over many different topics and the final two things she has done were the straw that broke the camels back. As you say you have not read all her posts can have no idea of the magnitude of the problems she has caused.
I am a big softie but in this case it is hard to defend the indefensible.
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I agree with Mark, she deserves nothing.
If she was really depressed she would be hidden away at home not sat in an adult learning centre.
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sorry but I agree with the others, depression runs in my family aswell and my life has been clouded due to the effects of my mothers depression and the suffering i have endured because of that. I also actually suffer from depression in varying degree's on a near permanent basis. I also suffer from a medical condition ontop of all that which is of direct result but also contributes to further feelings of distress.
At the end of the day regardless how bad a person can feel unless they have totally flipped and incapable of anything which includes actually being able to make up such a web of lies then they are atleast partly responsible for their actions, this includes not organising or requesting a pick up of a cat cage.
In my opinion a person who is able to think up and be so deceitful is more than capable of sorting out the two things this thread has been about.
[it's hard work to just eat/quote]
Or not in some cases :sneaky:
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Obviously I'm not aware of the distress this person has caused.
I can only say that when I had 'endogenous' depression (what the psych called it) if I had owed someone a cage and they wanted it back, I would have just crawled into bed and gone back to sleep. I only left the house to get food from the corner shop, hardly ever bathed or washed my hair. I lived on muesli and shovelled whiskas into the cat bowls. And that was a hell of an effort. I wasn't nasty to anyone, just argumentative, in that I would ascribe negative motives to everyone, and accuse my friends of stupid stuff.
It was like I had a huge slug sitting on top on me, weighing me down. I called him Brian, after the snail in the magic roundabout, to make him seem friendly and go away. The only thing that worked was selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. After a few weeks, I felt like the sun had come out.
IF Lisa/whoever is that ill, she has some sympathy from me.
But even if she's lying entirely, I can't see what this bitterness is achieving, apart from keeping her influence going. She's still got power over people she hurt unless we let it go.
That's my opinion.
'nuff said.
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First of all wanted to say to well done to you HippyKitty for getting help and (hopefully feeling much better now!) :hug:
My mum suffers with depression and/or some other problems and i also work in mental health so i know how difficult it can be, and i have to be honest and say that i don't believe this has anything to do with mental health problems (judging by some of the pm's i got from her after i voiced an opinion)
Secondly I think when a resolution is reached e.g. money is reimbursed for cage and tents, this discussion will hopefully be a thing of a past, however until that happens i think it is everybody's nature to discuss and try and resolve it.
Just my tuppence ha'penny worth :shy:
ems
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[it's hard work to just eat/quote]
Or not in some cases :sneaky:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: as she would say :evillaugh:
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I would have just crawled into bed and gone back to sleep.
Exactly, you would not have gone on the internet day and night in different names and caused problems to the genuine people who post on there and took up the valuable time that could be spent on life and death situations.
Secondly I think when a resolution is reached e.g. money is reimbursed for cage and tents, this discussion will hopefully be a thing of a past, however until that happens i think it is everybody's nature to discuss and try and resolve it.
I agree.
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Hippykitty, well done for seeking help. It's hard to get the motivation to even do that when you've got depression. :)
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Depression is a terrible illnesss and one that can be unseen by those around one. I was lucky and was picked up by a number of people who helped me no end.
I watched this person post from the beginning and stopped reading any post by her becuae she was making me so angry.
The police are involved in this now and as a group we muct be careful what we say and how we act.
What she has done is not the actions of someone with depression, I think, just the actions of someone wanting to achieve some sort of fame. Hippy you are right in that in some way she has achieved that but also it has highlighted to Purrs members what can happen when trust is abused and it has brought everyone closer together I believe and also more aware.
The suffering she has caused to people on Purrs is immense and I think that it is right that there be some out pouring of feelings, within reason.
Hopefully enough money will be collected to get Lesley a lovely new cage to help her to continue her rescue work and I hope that Purrlicious will also be able to get her money back after being so generous.
I am sure this thread will die a natural death when its time is done.
I believe that the person concerned is very sick and the attention seeking is not a cry for help but part of a twisted mentality that needs treatment before she hurts anyone else.
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I too suffer from years of chronic depression brought on by having a dibilitating illness with chronic pain that renders me bedbound. My skin is sore all over from my hair right down to my feet... every nerve ending is screaming out with pain. My muscles are so tender & sore that I scream out in pain. I have sleep deprivation & when I do sleep I have brutal/mutilating/torturous nightmares that leave me more of a zombie during the day & have copious amounts of infections to deal with ...
I have all of this...... but I would not steal...
The registered letter I sent to Lisa was signed by a XM Pearce from what I can make out.
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I think the point established is that some folks are deceitful and others aren't.
Purrlishious, what do you have wrong with you? It sounds awful. You don't have to say if you don't want to. :hug:
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Hi Jack. I have Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, neuropathic pain, spondylosis... shall I end there????????? :rofl:
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ems, thanks; I've been much better for a long time, it was about 3yrs ago that I had those problems. Because I love my cats and didn't want to leave them to their fate, I saw my doc, who referred me to a neuropsychiatrist, but it took AGES to get the appointment.
I hope that you get some relief for your condition, Purrlishious, it sounds awful. :hug:
Unless you were just pulling our legs. :shy:
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I dont think anyone would joke about such a terrible sounding illness..well not unless their name was lisa aka crazycatz aka what ever other name was picked out of a hat that day.
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Lynn, it was the ROFL which made me wonder.
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Hi Jack. I have Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, neuropathic pain, spondylosis... shall I end there????????? :rofl:
OMG and I've been feeling sorry for myself cuz I've got a bit of RSI in the wrist. You have just put it all in perspective for me ... I am officially a wimp! :rofl:
Big :hug: from my and lots of kitty kisses and furry headbutts from Foxy, Zephyr and Rossi xxxx
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>Purrlishous there's a good website that has loads of good info ;)
http://www.freewebs.com/fibrofighters/
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Lynn, it was the ROFL which made me wonder.
I think Purrlishious was saying there's more wrong with her, but the list is too long!
Although, that's already a pretty long list! Are they doing all they can for the pain?
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. I have Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, neuropathic pain, spondylosis... shall I end there?????????
Donna and Virginia two of our fosterers both suffer from your problems. Sometime I can tell they are in absolute agony but for the sake of the cats carry one., I think the deserve a medal.
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Hi Jack. I have Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, neuropathic pain, spondylosis... shall I end there????????? :rofl:
OMG and I've been feeling sorry for myself cuz I've got a bit of RSI in the wrist. You have just put it all in perspective for me ... I am officially a wimp! :rofl:
Friend of mine's got Fibromyalgia. And I'm stuck with RSI more in my left than right and I type all day - so you're not a wimp! Pain is pain ;)
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Has any further payments been made for these tents ?