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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2009, 13:34:07 PM »
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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2009, 13:20:02 PM »
Fingers and toes crossed here  :Luv:

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2009, 13:15:11 PM »
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I am still hoping no news is good news!

I second that Dawn.   :wish:

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2009, 13:06:52 PM »

Got everything crossed they'll give Magnolia another chance, and that she - sensible girl - will take it.
(But not if she's unhappy there - if that's the case then she needs to catch the 41 bus from the front bus stop to Cheese, Doc and Gert's house and to tell the driver that she's travelling unaccompanied and doesn't have the bus fare etc.  Oh yes, and not to cross the road without looking both ways first and making sure it's safe to do so.  And not to talk to strangers either.  :shify:)

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Still no news. I am going to email soon if I don't hear anything, she normally emails me in the early evening so we will see what happens tonight. I am still hoping no news is good news! :wish:
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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2009, 12:43:18 PM »

I said it might be best to also put a tray in the area for a few days after the clean.

Cross your fingers for Mags!  :)

I would've thought that's a reallly sensible idea.  Am glad they've decided to give it a try.

I have to say that many years ago, when I was a proud young homeowner, we acquired a rescue dog who was a beautiful and well mannered girl, but who had such separation anxiety that she almost destroyed our home if we left her alone for longer than ten minutes at a time - she ate carpets, stripped paper from the walls, scratched woodwork, destroyed slippers, cushions, baskets, blankets - allsorts.  She had me at the very edge of distraction to the point where I insisted OH returned her to the Cat & Dog Shelter.

The dread day came when he took her back.  I arrived home that evening - to find her sitting there, ears drooping, tail wagging shyly and OH was just as bad!  The people at the shelter had sent him away again, armed with various tips to try which we hadn't used, and after about a month, we had one of the best dogs a couple could ever have wanted.  She became happy and relaxed and the "bad" behaviour stopped.   I had no idea at the time how badly affected some dogs could be from the things they'd experienced in their lives, and - I'm ashamed to say - I used to work  at another, council run cat and dog shelter in my early teens, so you'd have thoguht (hoped) I'd have had more sense!

Cats - well now, they're still a mystery to me...  ;) :evillaugh:

Got everything crossed they'll give Magnolia another chance, and that she - sensible girl - will take it.
(But not if she's unhappy there - if that's the case then she needs to catch the 41 bus from the front bus stop to Cheese, Doc and Gert's house and to tell the driver that she's travelling unaccompanied and doesn't have the bus fare etc.  Oh yes, and not to cross the road without looking both ways first and making sure it's safe to do so.  And not to talk to strangers either.  :shify:)

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2009, 03:07:39 AM »
dabs - I didn't know surgical spirit was good for cat smells! I will remember that  ;D

Bi-carb is also good!  ;)

Sounds good with the no news is good news....fingers crossed!   :hug:

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2009, 09:37:12 AM »
Just to let you know that I haven't heard anything so far... fingers crossed that no news is good news and I will let you know if I hear anything!  :wow:

dabs - I didn't know surgical spirit was good for cat smells! I will remember that  ;D
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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2009, 13:19:12 PM »
In my carpet cleaner I put Surgical Spirit in the water bit, so it goes down with the shampoo and again with the clean water. The steam drives it down into the carpet. Works for me and saves the scrubbing!  :sneaky:
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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2009, 14:46:20 PM »
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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2009, 14:17:23 PM »
Fingers crossed. It's positive that she wants to try the cleaning.

Come on Magsy!

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2009, 20:53:35 PM »
I do hope the steam cleaning works.  I have a real soft spot for Magnolia - I fell in love with her when you first posted her piccie  :Luv2:

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2009, 20:11:41 PM »
Come on Magnolia you can do it  :hug:

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2009, 19:18:36 PM »
C'mon Magsy Moo - win 'em over! ;)




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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2009, 16:21:24 PM »
Keeping fingers crossed
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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2009, 16:03:18 PM »
I really hope this works out, it would be so lovely if this is her true forever home after all  :wish:

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2009, 15:39:49 PM »
sounds as if this may not be a case then of just wanting rid

come on Mags, use that tray, love
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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2009, 15:33:30 PM »
A glimmer of hope...

I have had an email today from the lady who rescued Mags to say she's taken the day off work to get the carpet steam cleaned as she's seen this advice on a forum - she is going to keep Mags another week and see if the steam cleaning can remove the smell and break the habit.

:wish:

I said it might be best to also put a tray in the area for a few days after the clean.

Cross your fingers for Mags!  :)
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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2009, 01:15:10 AM »
We have had several cats come to us whose owners had begged us to take them because they "wee and poo everywhere".  Not one of these cats has actually failed to use the tray in our care. We have an example with us right now - Tilly. Tilly's owners were insistant she refused to use a tray, but right from the word go with our fosterer she has never had one accident.  :sneaky:

Sometimes they use the 'inappropriate toileting' as an excuse to dump a cat, or change their minds after they adopt. Sometimes it is genuine and puss really is soiling but it's always, always due to stress in the home from our experience. But I agree with Lesley, once they have made up their mind to get rid, no offers of Feliway or vet investigation or advise will change their minds.  :(

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2009, 02:58:20 AM »
This obviously wasnt meant to be!  :(

Hope her true forever home turns up soon!  :hug:

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2009, 23:36:57 PM »
 :hug:  :hug: hope it goes well with Magnolia.

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2009, 23:30:55 PM »
Yeah I just checked now - I had a response to say that there is no 'ultimatum' so they are OK with keeping her until the weekend and they have asked to let me know what happens.

Typical that its tonight we go out for Phil's birthday so I could only get online again to check now  :scared:

I'll update tomorrow when I can, back in work! I have listed her back on top cats  :shy: (sorry this is brief - laptop battery on way out!)
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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2009, 23:17:36 PM »
So sorry to hear this hun. Have you had a reply from them yet??

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2009, 18:10:47 PM »
Sorry to hear shes being returned  :( its a shame they arent willing to work through this problem, there must be something that has triggered it as she never did it with you and as you say she didnt get on with your lot so you would think that any toiletting would have materialised before this!

Also as you just fostered mags you shouldnt feel you cant return her to dawn, its this kind of thing that needs to be outlined when fostering to save any awkward feeling.


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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2009, 13:30:11 PM »
 :hug: If she does end up back with you, Wilkos do carpet protector for about £4 for a decent sized roll. (We have to use it in our house as our cats don't cope well with the concept of a closed door!)
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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2009, 13:12:59 PM »
I have emailed her new owner as I didn't want to leave her wondering what I was going to say  :shify:

I asked that she give me a few days to sort out what I am going to do, if I can't find a solution by the weekend she can come back here but will have to only be in one room and see how it goes with the tunnelling!! Thinking about it logically, it would be preferable to get her a rescue space if possible, even if it does make me feel terrible - its the best thing for her.

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2009, 12:54:31 PM »
i dont think the new owners tried very hard cos your other thread was quite new.

poor little cat and am sure her probs were caused by something her owners were doing.

i am sorry that she is having to come back to you but hopefully a new forever home is just round the corner  :hug:

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2009, 10:59:58 AM »
Thats such a shame....and a shame the new owners wont try for abit longer (although this says to me they arnt the right people for her )

I'd have to agree, such a shame though for Magsy Moo  :(

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2009, 10:39:54 AM »
Thats such a shame....and a shame the new owners wont try for abit longer (although this says to me they arnt the right people for her )

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2009, 10:33:49 AM »
What a shame this hasn't worked out for Magnolia :(  It does sound as though they have made their minds up about returning her.  If it's only the one room she does it in, could they not just keep her out of that room?  At least for as long as it takes to hopefully break the habit.

Don't know what to suggest really :(  but can offer some  :hug:

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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2009, 09:48:54 AM »
Thanks for the advice :thanx:

I thought DD was trying to slim her numbers down so I haven't contacted her. It seems silly but I felt that contacting any rescue makes it seem as I have let her down as I am trying to pass her on elsewhere. Sorry if that sounds a bit silly  :scared:


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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2009, 09:46:57 AM »
Thanks for the advice :thanks:

The spare room would be a good idea if she would tolerate that - she had a spare room in our last place but we had to let her out as she was trying to tunnel her way out and was constantly at the door, thats how she came to live with our other three even though they did not get on with each other.

I thought DD was trying to slim her numbers down so I haven't contacted her. It seems silly but I felt that contacting any rescue makes it seem as I have let her down as I am trying to pass her on elsewhere. Sorry if that sounds a bit silly  :scared:
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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2009, 09:35:52 AM »
Oh, Dawn. :hug: I read the thread in H&B but the advice given was what I would've said. Have they not even sprung for a vet visit? Just because she toilets in one specific area, doesn't mean it's not health related I don't think.

I'm not sure what you could do regarding the disruption it causes your cats, but tend to agree with getting in touch with DD.





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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2009, 09:32:52 AM »
Thats so sad that she is coming back have you spoken to DD re Magsy

Do you have a spare room she could have as her own for a little while so she is shunted around to much :hug:
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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2009, 09:22:54 AM »
Unfortunately, from my experience, once they have made up their minds that they want to return the cat, no amount of persuasion or advice will deter them from that, whether the problem is solved or not!

It is always awkward when one is coming back that upsets the apple cart so to speak.  When Pippa was returned I had to place her in the study as she did not get on with the other cats and then made a conserted (sp) effort to find another home for her.  Is it possible you can keep her separate and then get her on the News Box here or on TopCat at CatChat.

I know exactly what you mean about feeling like you have let her down, but it is not you who has let her down, it is her new owners but I bet they will not cut themselves up about it as much as you will :hug:
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Re: Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2009, 09:09:01 AM »
Oh dear its awful when they come back in.

I suppose the obvious 3 things to try and I'm sure you been through them is thoroughly clean the area, put a litter tray in the area or not let her in to the dining room for a while. Or of course all three just to make sure.

If you have no room for her then see if the owner will hold onto her for a while until there is room.

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Magnolia is being returned - advice please
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2009, 08:52:27 AM »
I had hoped I wouldn't be posting one of these threads at any point..

On Monday I had an email from Magsy's new owners to say that she had started inappropriate peeing in the dining room of their house and they asked if I had any advice. They said that she only does it in one room and will go in her tray as normal if she does not have access to this room.

I sent an email yesterday with all the advice I could think of (I made a thread in health and behaviour in case anyone here could think of anything else).

I have had another email now to say she has tried everything but the feliway and thinks it is not health related as it is just in the one room. At the end of the email she has asked if she can bring Mags back here  :(

Which brings me onto dilemma number 2!

Our cats are so much more chilled out and happy without her here because none of them got on together as she did not like them and would swipe at them etc when all four were living here together. I don't feel it is fair to bring them all back living together again if Mags is returned but it seems my only other option is going to be to keep her in a pen in another room which doesn't seem too fair on her either? Either that or look for a rescue space for her but then I feel I have let her down  :(

I am really gutted Mags' new home hasn't worked out - especially when the first few emails seemed so positive, its so strange her behaviour suddenly changed.
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To think I might not see those eyes, makes it so hard not to cry, and as we say our long goodbyes, I nearly do.

 


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