Topic: Ollie Bonga thread....he's getting his teeth out next week.... (Read 21137 times)

Millys Mum · « **Reply #23 on:** April 28, 2010, 19:37:34 PM »

I dont think dr addies site mentions it being used for fiv cats cc, do check there

Theres so much on the web and a lot contradicts, i try to read from sites that are more in the know ie specialists like dr addie or the feline advisory bureau than general health sites, can often spot errors on such pages. I always ask my vet too

Something that is important with the extractions is complete removal including the root

Mark · « **Reply #22 on:** April 28, 2010, 17:47:09 PM »

CC - I don't know about Stomatosis so I decided to read up. The first site I looked at was peteduction.com - the first paragraph tells you that "it is primarily thought that some cats may have a hypersensitivity or allergic reaction to bacterial plaque and are called 'plaque-intolerant." - so surely, as you said earlier having all the teeth out would make all the difference. I don't know if you remember all the problems Clapton had with his mouth and teeth over the years. It seemed like every 6 months or so, he was back having more out. Eventually he was down to 4 teeth and the vet was going to take 2 out. I told him there wasn't much point leaving a cat with 2 teeth in its mouth

- he said that that last 2 were healthy and would be a lot harder to remove than healthy ones. I said I accepted that but I would not be happy if in 6 months time, Clapton got a bad mouth again. He said he would try and he did take them all out. Since that day, Clapton has had sweet breath and no mouth problems at all. I am also convinced this is what caused his CRF.

I know it can also cause arthritis as well as all other kinds of illness. If your vet isn't happy taking teeth out, ask him for a referral to a cat dental specialist who will be better able to deal with it. It isn't as if he is a really old cat?

I know the article doesn't apply to all forms but unless they have ruled it out...

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=1+1371&aid=368

PS - I was just looking at all the signs on the article and they are all the things Clapton had. I am just annoyed that no vet ever mentioned Stomatosis - we would have done anything to make our boy better and I am angry that he suffered for about 3 years before all his teeth finally being removed ended the problem.

Has the vet suggested a Chlorhexidine mouthwash in the meantime? - this should also help a lot.

CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls · « **Reply #21 on:** April 28, 2010, 16:25:13 PM »

MM just read something and it's only saying Thalidomide is used in stomatitus cases associated with FIV. Ollie has been tested for FIV and it was neg.

Janeyk · « **Reply #20 on:** April 27, 2010, 15:46:59 PM »

Hopefully the abs will help and then the steroid, fingers crossed xx

CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls · « **Reply #19 on:** April 27, 2010, 14:20:53 PM »

Have to go back to vets on Friday. Ollie has been taken off the Ovarid now as the vet doesn't seem to think its working- he thought the same as me in that the infection was not making them work to there full extent. He's had an aniti-b today (sorry forgot to ask which one

) and then when we go back he's going to give Ollie a shot of his usual steriods.

Hopefully this blasted infection will shift and Ollie can get back on track

I also forgot to take the name of the meds with me

but am going to phone them later

Vet also said taking the rest of his teeth out could be an option but he doesn't think it would have any effect, but its something that has to be tried before anything is thought about

CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls · « **Reply #18 on:** April 27, 2010, 10:32:02 AM »

He's had all of his teeth removed except from the fangs inwards, if it comes to it I will request taking his other teeth out as a last option. I dont like filling him with meds either and sometimes do wonder who Im doing it for

but I love him so much and would try anything to keep him alive and well, he really shows he wants to be alive!

Des- I asked the vet about cancer as I remembered you said about it before, the vet said it could only give them a chance of growing boobs

Off to the vets now, will post once I come back

Thanks MM have written that down

Janeyk · « **Reply #17 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:35:25 AM »

Not sure about the side effects of the drug if it's not over-used and monitored carefully I would hope it would be ok.

I was going to say the same thing as Desley regarding teeth though, if Ollie hasn't had them removed it seems a shame, I know it doesn't help all cats but my Schui never suffered again with his mouth once all his teeth had been taken out - his mouth was described as being 'like raw liver' before.

Michelle (furbabystar) · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:05:49 AM »

CC just sending loads of positive vibes for Ollie xxxx

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #15 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:01:52 AM »

I was prescribed these for Tom's spraying, but side effects include diabetes and mammary cancer, so I refused to use them. I am surprised your vet still doesn't want to remove teeth, it has to be worth trying rather than pump him full of hormones, although Sam still gets mouth ulcers despite having no teeth, but it doesn't seem to bother him nearly as much.

What antibiotic is the vet using?

Millys Mum · « **Reply #14 on:** April 26, 2010, 20:49:24 PM »

CC sorry hes gone down hill again, its such an awful condition

If the ovarid isnt helping then Thalidamide is meant to be very helpful if it can be sourced, it would be something id try as a last attempt, think it has less side effects than ovarid BUT i havnt read indepth about it. Dr Addies page has possible supplier details

JackSpratt · « **Reply #13 on:** April 26, 2010, 19:08:49 PM »

CC, I'm sending them, trust me. I know how many things you've tried for Ollie and can imagine how stressed you're feeling right now. Give him a fuss for me.

Gillian Harvey · « **Reply #12 on:** April 26, 2010, 18:49:22 PM »

Quote from: CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls on April 26, 2010, 18:26:53 PM

Vet said he doesn't think taking his other teeth out would work but if it comes as a last resort I think I have to try that before making any major decisions for him.

It does say on Dr Addie's site that removing the teeth has the highest success rate, not without risk of course though

http://dr-addie.com/stomatitis.html#treat

Daisymac · « **Reply #11 on:** April 26, 2010, 18:30:04 PM »

CC, was just talking with Teresa on the phone, she wanted me to let you know that Ovarid carries a very high risk of causing diabetes, so best to consult with you vet in detail

CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls · « **Reply #10 on:** April 26, 2010, 18:26:53 PM »

Thats what the vet said, hopefully we can get it down to 1 a week. I am really hoping its this blasted infection not letting them work properly cos if it's not there is nothing else to do

Vet said he doesn't think taking his other teeth out would work but if it comes as a last resort I think I have to try that before making any major decisions for him.

Please send get well vibes for Ollie

Angiew · « **Reply #9 on:** April 26, 2010, 17:05:57 PM »

I've used it for skin conditions and its an on going medication, though only used it when had to as it is hard on the organs i think.

got the dosage down to about 1/4 tab every few days...

CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls · « **Reply #8 on:** April 26, 2010, 13:42:20 PM »

I hope he does too

Mark · « **Reply #7 on:** April 26, 2010, 13:25:19 PM »

Sorry CC, I don't know anything about it

I just hope Ollie starts to improve

CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls · « **Reply #6 on:** April 26, 2010, 13:12:37 PM »

Its was helping, I got 8 tablets had to do one every other day, then one every 3 days but seems he has got his infection back and his mouth is really swolen, he's starting to look shabby

This was only 2 weeks ago he's had these and also an anti-b for the infection. This will be the 3rd time he's had this infection in almost 2 months.

Any info found I would be greatfull if you could post it

Janeyk · « **Reply #5 on:** April 26, 2010, 13:05:05 PM »

I've just googled and it seems to be used a fair bit for oral problems although mainly skin, it's a hormonal preparation which reduces inflammation so that does make sense, isn't it helping at all?

JackSpratt · « **Reply #4 on:** April 26, 2010, 13:02:01 PM »

Sorry, CC I haven't heard of it. Hope that Ollie improves soon, poor lad.

Janeyk · « **Reply #3 on:** April 26, 2010, 13:00:29 PM »

I'm so sorry to hear that Ollie is so poorly. I don't know anything about Ovarid, I do hope that the vet has other suggestions, poor boy

CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls · « **Reply #2 on:** April 26, 2010, 12:39:30 PM »

He's been put on these for his mouth problems.

Plasmacytic Stomatitis

CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls · « **Reply #1 on:** April 26, 2010, 12:38:26 PM »

Anyone had any experiance with these meds in treating their own cats? I have looked around the net trying to find info but it's only relating to cats with season problems

Ollie has now been put on these as a last chance medication and even with these he's going down hill, I feel like Im loosing my boy

We are at the vets tomorrow to see how things are going and to see whats best for Ollie, although nothing else can be done except to medicate him and these meds dont seem to be working now

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