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Title: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 12, 2015, 03:07:56 AM
Dont know where to start so exhausted.

Misa seemed to go down hill over about an hour and didnt seem to be able to get up from lying down.

I trieed to move him to a sitting position but he howled in pain so rang the vet.

He was horrible to talk to and said he thought Misa may have to be PTS..............I exploded and then he called Misa an old cat so was to be expected!!!!!!!!!!

It took me ages to get him in carrier cos although he didnr seem to be able to use his back legs he was using the front ones and was telling me he didnt want to go in the cage.

Anyway drove very slowly and Misa decided he could sit the whole way there and unlike 2 days ago he was protesting very loudly.

The vet nurse came out to help get him in and an emergency was being operated on so we waaited a while amd Misa was showing he could move around almost fine .............sigh

Then the vet Richard came out and he was young and actually very pleasant not like on the phone at all, I had been so worried.

He helped get Misa out of the carrier cos by now he seemed normal and wouldnt come out. He was examined very thoughly especially back legs and he also said the bottom of Misas back was tender, same as Gareth but also could not find anything obviously wrong with him and blooming Misa was just normal Misa man plodding around the table lying down getting up sitting.........................Misaaaaaaaaaaaa what you doing to me!

Richard said we had 3 options, one just carry on with metacam, give him an injection that was on the way to morphine but would only last for 7=8 hours or keep him there under observation until monday. Due to his fear of people he didnt think the last was a runner and said if it was his cat he would go for the jab but not give it into muscle as intended but give undder the skin so wouldnt be as effective but would last a bit longer and to carry on with metacom until he sees gareth on Monday.

When I started typing this Misa was still in his carrier and still,is but was sitting up. The jab will make him relaxed and sleepy so am hoping he has laid down and dozed off.

I was wondering if when  he scruncjes up his legs where he lies in the corner was giving him an in/out dislocation and then he ends up i loads of pain and cant move. All i know was that he was fine up to about 2100 when he went out with Sasa but he just laid on the path and wanted to come bacl quite quickly.

Its all a huge mystery and I am stressed out of my mind. The vet apologized for what he said and was really nice and Misa seemed to like him better than Gareth. He said I should tell Gareth and I said I couldnt so he said he would have to lol

I know Misa hasnt come up stairs for a few days so not used tray up there, also not been on my bed and not come up on the sofa, maybe longer cos just thought he didnt want to.

Please send loads of good vibes for my special boy and he will be seeing Gareth on Monday morning again,,,,,,,,,,,,we need to get to the bottom of this.
Title: Re: Misa back at vets tonight
Post by: Tuftyclub on April 12, 2015, 05:01:36 AM
Poor Misa. I hope you've gone to bed by now Gill?  :hug:

I'd continue with the Metacam for a few days and see. If he has a wound or inflammation it may take a few days for the NSAID in the Metacam to  heal it.

Can't say I'm impressed with the vets attitude on the phone, though. Making rush diagnosis without even seeing the cat is downright unprofessional and I'm. Not surprised you exploded!

Try to relax now, Misa will have a pain free night, you should get some rest too.  :hug:
Title: Re: Misa back at vets tonight
Post by: pappilon on April 12, 2015, 06:19:26 AM
Oh Gill, I am so sorry Misa is not feeling well :( Sending lots of healing and positive vibes his way and lots of gentle hugs for you :hug: :hug: :hug:

Hope he feels much better this morning. :hug:
Title: Re: Misa back at vets tonight
Post by: Rosella moggy on April 12, 2015, 08:59:29 AM
Did the vet have any idea at all Gill as to what might prevent Misa from getting up on his own and scream in pain when you tried to help; yet able to move around quite freely at the surgery?  I know cats are very good at masking pain but that sounds extreme.  Did you give him any extra metacam before taking him to the vet by any chance?  It's good stuff.

Am wondering if an xray might be best if only to put your mind at rest a little?

I hope it goes without saying that I send the strongest get well vibes to your handsome fella  :care: :care: :care: and a  :hug: for you.
Title: Re: Misa back at vets tonight
Post by: Misa on April 12, 2015, 09:17:39 AM
Have had about two hours sleep and went to check on him, couldn't find him! So that totally woke me up and haven't got back to sleep again.

Found him eventually as he had gone into study and was hiding under the desk between stuff but fast asleep.

Yes metacam will continue until he sees Gareth on Monday morning.

No I didn't give him anything Rosella and its a total mystery. Yes I am going to ask about xrays cos not sure that a blood screen would show anything. He is on max doseage of met a cam and know Duchas arthritis was helped so much, hebwas able to go up and down stairs again. Richard told me that the meta jab is stronger than the oral stuff as its used to give a kick start before oral stuff.

I asked if he could have another jab as the first one worked so well but was told no......this is where Gareth told me something different to what I thought I knew and to what Richard said...........G said in a healthy adult cat with no kidney probs Met a cam does not affect kidneys, only affects them if kidneys already have a problem.


The whole thing is strange because Richard gave Misa an eben better test if back and legs than G and extended his legs out at back and nothing from Misa, just the same as G saying that his lower back was a bit tender.

I have to get this sorted cos don't want him struggling in real pain which he was.

My other problem us have to go and see eye consultant on wed..

So gonna try and get to sleep again now!!

Thanks all
Title: Re: Misa back at vets tonight
Post by: sheilarose on April 12, 2015, 09:42:30 AM
The tenderness in his lower back reminds meof when Beau had been bitten during retreat, the wound went unnoticed but as the infection set in he became poorly and his back legs were weak so I took him to the vet who also failed to see the swelling until I remembered I'd see some wetness on his fur a couple of days previously. It was very worrying and initial thoughts were he'd fallen and injured his spine somehow. Only on closer inspection did a whopping great abscess become apparent where he'd been bitten, the puncture wound was blocked with a plug of fur (Beau too was a very brave little soldier and rarely complained about his numerous injuries) and the swelling was pressing on his spinal nerve causing his lameness.  :(

Once located, of course the solution was to dose him with Antibiotics and squeeze said zit. It popped in spectacular style - literally as the hot green goo hit the vet (who was quite young and obviously inexperienced) square in the eye  :evillaugh:
Poor Beau yelled out and sunk his teeth into my index finger, so I too needed antibitoics when it swelled up like a Cumberland Sausage later that day  :doh:

When Kuki was hit by a car recently, Neil (my current and excellent vet) said it would be sensible to administer AB as a precaution in case her injuries were thinking of becoming infected.

Perhaps worth mentioning to Gareth that administering a broad spectrum antibiotic wouldn't do any harm as the source of his pain is idiopathic? It might just be what he needs. :care:

Sending more comforting and healing vibes to both of you today, I hope the weather stays warm and you can get the gorgeous Misaman out for a wee stroll when he wakes up.  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Misa back at vets tonight
Post by: Liz on April 12, 2015, 11:40:21 AM
I have injectable Metacam and it does work on Healthy cats Chunkchop get it once a week for his mouth and it lasts about 4 days with him but the blood panel established he had great Kidneys so that's what we use with him so a blood test is a good idea and it will also show any raised white blood cells etc so would go with that the blood test can show so many things

Sounds like he may have fallen and hurt himself or maybe as Sheila says an abcess and being of the fluffy kind and if he has knots harder to find hoping they can get to the bottom of it - mine won't do liquid Metacam as they are a suspicious lot!!
Title: Re: Misa back at vets tonight
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 12, 2015, 14:15:40 PM
Yes I thi9nk maybe infection too and as with yours Sheila he had a gunged up part of fur on left side of bottom of back I think was last week.............or was it right side grrrr.

The gung has gone now but I wqas going to try and snip off fur but if I touched he yelped.

I have told both vets this and think this could be problem,,,,,,,we decided not to go with abs on Fri but wonder if this was wrong decision.

He has only had part of his metacam and was stuck under desk cos its a laminate floor so no purchase to get up when he tried.

Have also done an online search and only answer of interest was a something on nreve like you say Sheila.

Tomorrow cant come quick enough tbh but just so tired and Misa is now hiding behind TV.

I have no idea why he suddenly could move after being in cage on way to vets last night but he was sitting the whole way there, However he spent about 2 hours sitting in cage when we got back before he moved.

he has used the tray but think it was hard, just liquids but chose to go to the big tray in kitchen.

Ahhhhhhhhhh he is up and eating hopefully the rest of metacam, now going back to his hiding place,

cant put lappy down to see how much he ate, he is obviously hungry,

Blasted lappy!
Title: Re: Misa back at vets tonight
Post by: Tigerlily (Allison) on April 12, 2015, 20:07:04 PM
So sorry to hear all of this Gill  :( :( :( Sending lots of good vibes for Misa, and of course you too  :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Misa back at vets tonight
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 12, 2015, 20:28:43 PM
Thank you Allison. We are back to see Gareth tomorrow.

Misa is lying down most of time and struggling to get up and when he does he goes and eats.

 I feel its his left leg or back side and I think he is also hiding incase we go to the vets.

Poor boy
Title: Re: Misa back at vets tonight
Post by: mad_lilli on April 12, 2015, 20:58:30 PM
Oh Gill, gentle head rubs for Misa and hugs for you. X
Title: Re: Misa back at vets tonight
Post by: Liz on April 12, 2015, 21:56:15 PM
Gill can't you put the food closer to him so he's not struggling as much and move a grit box closer for him also keeping him in one room with the door shut would also help you see what he is depositing in the grit box without wondering if the others are using the same tray will give you an idea if he is drinking enough etc just to help out with any questions the et may have over those things - they always ask in my experience about the eating, drinking and grit box usage - if mine are unwell they are shut in one place makes it easier to keep an eye on them = its only for a short time so shouldn't cause to much stress and you can sleep knowing he is safe and has all his comforts
Title: Re: Misa back at vets tonight
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on April 12, 2015, 22:48:53 PM
Sending lots of positive vibes for Misa and  :hug: :hug: :hug: for you Gill.
 
Just a thought but could he be constipated?  I doubt it would be the primary cause of his pain but it could be a contributing factor.   Often older cats can cope well with one problem on its own (eg arthritis or infection) but when another one comes along as well it pushes them into what appears to be sudden distress.  I hope Gareth can come up with a solution tomorrow.
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 13, 2015, 02:21:07 AM
Misa doesnt seem to be in obvious pain any more but is having problems using the tray.

His back legs/leg wont hold him so he has to sit and then he has a problem going and takes a numver of attempts.

After sitting he is wobbling and after finally going he then lies flat down with left leg outwards, think its his left leg/side thats the problem.

When he is finally urinating he pulls his head back and tries to look at ceiling.

He has used the tray twice today and noticed this last time two. He did solids and liquid the first time, early/mid afternoon but solids very pale in colour, almost wood litter coloured.

Have taken a couple of photos of how he is lying for Gareth.

He has food, water and liiter tray close Liz and all cats staying away from him, Cant lock him in a room because he would panic. He needs to feel loved and just so hard to get to him cos of my health and that he is hiding behind things.

No I dont think he is constipated Carol unless a very little and neither vet thought he was but has eaten reasonably today although nothink like as often as usual.

I am so concerned about him now but so tired am flaking out and so hard to eat.

So pleased that vet time is nearly due just hope I wake up and dont go straight back to sleep!

Thank you for your good wishes
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: pappilon on April 13, 2015, 06:16:04 AM
Sending more good vibes for gorgeous Misa, I hope Gareth is able to help.

Thinking of you and Misa :hug: :hug:

Gill, could you put some news paper down and cover it with his litter so he doesn't have to climb the tray.
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 13, 2015, 06:26:29 AM
Thats a great idea Pav thanks.

He is lying on his side now looking relaxed for the first time today and thinkm he is asleep.

was gonna leave for vets  in just over an hour cos Misa was so bad and his back legs cant hold him but while he is asleep we are staying put.

Bloomin Lupin is bombing about and wont go upstairs and sleep cos I am down here!

Its about 4 years to the day when Napoleon got ill  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: pappilon on April 13, 2015, 06:37:30 AM
Gill, please while Misa is sleeping try and get some rest yourself. Can you put Lupin in your bedroom just for few hours or do you think that may stress him too much?

Please try and eat some thing you need your strength to look after Misa :hug: :hug:

Would you like me to give you a wakeup call at 9.00?
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 13, 2015, 07:04:02 AM
afraid lupin goes crazy shut in any room and digs uo carpet so i cant get in!

it would be funny but.......................

Afraid cant sleep at all now but thanks so much of offer of wake up call..................probably will doze off now! i did doze during golf and missed it lol.

yes need strength just to carry thge cage with misa in cos they are so heavy.........have just had a yogart but eating and me dont get on well.

misa still asleep thank goodness, he needs it as much as me
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Liz on April 13, 2015, 07:50:26 AM
Gill go in to the vets and get someone to carry Misha in - my vets receptionists are good that way and always help me carry in and then out to the car the boxes when I take mulitples and maybe staying in will give the vets the observation over a time period to aid in getting him better
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 13, 2015, 08:28:43 AM
Thank you Liz thats what I do but he is so stressed in there I will probably get them to get him when Gareth is ready for him this time.
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Dawn F on April 13, 2015, 08:38:25 AM
so sorry to hear he is bad gill, hope something can be sorted for the big boy
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on April 13, 2015, 09:59:14 AM
Topping up the vibes for Misa.  I hope there is some positive news from today's vet visit.  :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 13, 2015, 12:41:29 PM
Thank you

I am home but Misa still at vets, been given cat valium to calm him down.

He is on a drip and bloods are absolutely purfect. They have scanned his heart and also purfect. So he has no infection.

They are now going to xray his back, back legs etc so a GA.

Its hoped that may show a problem that can be easily treated, if not its still a total mystery and only thing left would be an MRI scan that would show muscle or ligament damage and also something , cant remember what but something in spin like slipped disc etc.

Poor boy shouted all the way in the car and was totally panicked when we waited in car.

We just need to know what is causing his problems walking and using the tray and hopefully why to urinate he has to pull his head back and stare at ceiling.

His bloods show a very healthy cat in his prime. He has not had a stroke.

Gareth should ring again in about an hour.
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 13, 2015, 12:42:58 PM

Gill, just popping by to say am thinking of you, and hoping you will be able to get word on Misa's progress.
Know how very stressed this will be making you, and topping up the vibes for Marvellous Misman. 

 :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Dawn F on April 13, 2015, 12:51:49 PM
fingers crossed here gill, sorry it wasn't something quickly fixed  :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Misa on April 13, 2015, 13:27:50 PM
Thank you.

Still waiting to hear, just added mobile!
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on April 13, 2015, 13:41:02 PM
I suppose it's good news that his bloods and major organs are healthy but in situations like this you can find yourself almost wishing they'd turned up something that would explain the symptoms.   :hug:  I hope the x-Ray can shed some light on the issue and that whatever the cause it's easily managed and not serious.  :care:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 13, 2015, 14:16:28 PM
Good news about Misa's bloods and heart :hug:

Is there any chance he may have jumped off something and sustained an injury :shify:

Thinking about you both :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 13, 2015, 14:44:37 PM
You are so tight Carol!

Gareth has rang and not good news really.

Apparently he has a pin and wires in rught back leg which has been badly broken...............must have been before CP took him on aFTER A VET SAVED HIM BY NOT pts WHEN OWNER WANTED THAT  oops, maybe when he was badly treated or before.

But the has chronic arthritus in that leg, not quite as bad in the other, but also at base of tail, both hip joints and also in bottom of back.

Gareth thinks that this has all flared up and thats probably the cause of his pain and current problems. Without MRI scan cant see if there is any soft tissue damage to Muscles and ligaments.

So he needs to be on Metacam and other stuff to help him and maybe something stronger. I guess if that does nor work he may need MRI scan and Bristol now have one from about 6 months ago................so no chance of changing his imsurer now.

Gareth thinks he has been managing up to now. It also explains why he has never been a jumper pnly getting about 18inches off the ground at the most,

Poor poor boy he must have been in pain most of his life and apparently the injury to his back right leg was very bad.

I am going to pick him up about 1600 as Gareth thinks he will be better at home.

Misa also a bit constipated but think he hasnt been able to go cos of the pain and that he can only sit on the litter.

I hope that Misa learns to love metacam as he is not keen and he probably will also need something that comes in a capsule that can be opened up and put in food and maybe joint supplements too..............the question is can I get him to eat any of them.

All in all not good news but that he is totally healthy in other respects must be a plus.

They are also detangling him and have shaved him where Gareth nfound a little scar above his tail but it is fine.............maybe another old injury?
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 13, 2015, 14:55:51 PM

Poor little sausage.   :(  He must've been in  lot of pain.  I guess it's so hard when you dont know the history of an animal that you take on, and don't know what they've been through previously.

Hoping the Metacam helps Gill.   :hug: :hug:   Sometimes with joint problems like that, it can help if you can just gently rest your hand on the joint and keep it there, bearing the weight of yuor own hand on your elbow and wrist.  The warmth is very soothing.  Doesnt need to be long - ten minutes or so, provided Misa will allow it. 

Sending our gorgeous boy much love, and soothing purrs/snoozles.
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 13, 2015, 15:12:44 PM
Oh poor Misa, he had a very tough life before he found you :hug:

Gareth is such a good vet which is reassuring

Also hoping the metacam helps :hug:

Bet you can't wait to get Misa home :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Dawn F on April 13, 2015, 15:21:52 PM
poor misa, hope you can get him to take the metacam it can make such a difference
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: mad_lilli on April 13, 2015, 15:39:20 PM
Bless him. Poor soul. I hope he feels better soon. Xxxx
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on April 13, 2015, 15:53:03 PM
Aw bless his fluffy trousers, the poor lad's early life was obviously even harder than anyone imagined.  He was lucky to find you.  I'm fervently hoping that he can be kept pain free.  :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Sootyca on April 13, 2015, 18:54:30 PM
Poor Misa. Hope he takes the metacam and feels better soon.  :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on April 13, 2015, 18:56:18 PM
Poor  Misa.  I'm glad you've got some answers  :hug:  I hope the pain can be managed.   I hope you can get some rest knowing he is being well looked after at the vets.
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: pappilon on April 13, 2015, 19:04:03 PM
Oh poor baby :( Sending loads more positive vibes for gorgeous boy and hope he takes the med and start feeling better soon.

 :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 13, 2015, 19:17:43 PM
Just sent this to someone so will post although it repeats what I said earlier  but expands it upto date, sorry

Misa is back home and he4 has chronic arthritis in back legs and spine and his rt back leg has a pin and wires in from a badly broken leg before I had him, shatter Gareth and me to find this out. He also has an injury at side of tail which is where the conjealed stuff was but isnt infected.

The arthritis ha had a flare up whether the injury caused it but Gereth says that it will flare up from time to time and get worse 

He was given cat valium to calm him down and now he is starving cos its also given to stimulate eating!

He has just eaten 3 dishes of food plus biscuits and he has had abs jjab and painliller injection. So right now he is walking well and even saw a tail up at the vets, he couldnt lift it.

I hope he is going bto use the litter tray while he is feeling good.

I have a painkiller to give him plus the metacam and a joint suppliment and Gareth wantsw to know he is doing on Thursday.

The bloods were totally clear but I am a bit worried whether the insurance company will pay up and its £850!

The vets are going to fill in the form and as this was unknown to anyone we cant say we knew he had a pre-existing condition. I am sure the vets know how to fill the form to get their money!!


Yes Misa must have had a bad life and so pleased he is home and right now he is walking normally and back to Misaman again.

I so wish I had known what he had and what to look for, just hoping I can het his meds into him for 7 days, they are only to be used if it flares up

Thank you all for your kind words  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 13, 2015, 19:19:56 PM
So glad he is home and responding well to the meds.

There is no way you could have known what was wrong :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: hollycat on April 13, 2015, 20:09:21 PM


Gill I have only just seen this thread, my apologies for not seeing it earlier.  :-[

I know how worried you are about Misa, but now you have some answers your worries should ease a little. I know how he feels, that arthritis is very painful at times.

Loads of hugs for you both  :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on April 13, 2015, 20:34:01 PM
I'm glad he's back home and walking better  :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Yvonne on April 13, 2015, 20:35:39 PM
Topping up the get well vibes for Misa and  :hug: to you  x
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Tigerlily (Allison) on April 13, 2015, 20:37:58 PM
Sending lots of good vibes Gill, for both of you. I hope you are able to get some rest now.   :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: sheilarose on April 13, 2015, 21:16:29 PM
Oh Gill what a rollercoaster. Poor Misa, no wonder he's terrified of the vet he's had some really serious surgery that he will associate with vets. Just like Theo who has similar repairs from his early years and hates the vet  :(

At least you now know, I'm glad Gareth got to see him and has given you some answers. You can both get some rest tonight, I do hope so anyway  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on April 13, 2015, 21:42:22 PM
Poor you - and poor Misa - this must have been such a worrying time for you. I'm glad that you have some answers and that your lovely lad is looking a bit better  :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 13, 2015, 21:47:09 PM
I may have to ring the emergency vet again cos he just wants to eat and eat cos of the valium!

Good job I knewws about this from Napoleon.

Yes Sheila and he also hates all people except me too as does Sasa but yes once I go to bed I am going to be out¬

I am very pleased to know so when it flares up again, hopefully not for a long time, we will know the reason and you were also right about the injury cos there was one but not infected,

The next problem is getting him to eat his metacam and the other pill which is a human one, very small and wish he like something I could wrap it in rather than crush it, Its a powerful painkiller and may space him out Gareth said but he would only have it for a week and the matacam, The other thing is this joint supplement in a capsule that can be oped and put on food,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Gareth says it wont taste cos its made for cats  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

No problem Andrew , I started a thread for him so it would have wider audience, hoping someone may have a clue what was wrong with him.

Now the question is how much food! He has had 3 dishes of wet food and a dish of bisuits and keeps scuttling over to the dishes loong for more!! Mind you he hasnt eaten for nealt 24 hours too..............do you think he has had enough or may be one more?

He is so desperate he is eating the bits he pushed out of the dish.......sigh
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: sheilarose on April 13, 2015, 22:06:40 PM
Time to take away the food bowls, Gill before he makes himself sick.  :sick:

Leave him water only, by morning he will feel more himself and you may get the tablet down him more easily if he's hungry again.  :-:

Lupin and Sasa will have to go without for one night.  :shify:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 13, 2015, 22:53:44 PM
Hope he settles now.

If he is still very hungry in the morning you might get the pill down him :hug:

Am sure he will be feeling so much better :hug:
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 14, 2015, 01:32:34 AM
ummmmmmm afraid I gave him another dish!

he is not so hungry now but its serving to keep him getting up and go to the dish.

Hed has not left the front room yet and am hoping he will use the liyyer tray.

Right now cant think how to get tablet into him except by crushing but think I may not be able to as my hands arent very good. He has to have two a day!

He also needs to have metacam every 24 hrs and dont know if maybe tbey could be mixed in the same food, one in one half and the other in the other half .

the capsules may have to wait until the tabs are finished as they are huge so contents are big.  I also need to speak to Gareth about them as it seems as they are taken for life but sure thats not what he said. cant speak to him until Thursday as he is not in tomorrow.

Gotta go to bed now and try to sleep.
Title: Re: Misa deterioating
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 14, 2015, 06:49:36 AM


Gill, very pleased that Gareth was the one to see Misa - it's paid dividends in many respects, because now so much more makes sense with regard to Misa's past life.    When you call to speak to Gareth on Thursday, ask if he minds if you take notes as you go along, and write down what he tells you.  That way, Misa will get the very best benefit from his meds.  And try to get yourself some sleep.   :hug: :hug:  Misa is eating, and he's in less pain, so for now, you can catch up on some rest.  Try, at least.  me and Da Boyz are sending much love for you and Mr Misaman.   :cat rub:
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 14, 2015, 13:32:14 PM
Thank you sue  ;D

Yes I have just slept for 10 hrs straight!

My body is stiff and sore but Misa is moving easier has just urinated after a lot of plodding in two trays but just remembered GA will make it harder for him to do solids so when next out will get some condensed milk to make into a drink for him which should help.

Yes thank goodness for Gareth. He explains everything, asked me if I wanted to see xrays, is very patient with me and Misa.

Misa has had his metacam but not the bloomin pill cos of course he is not so hungry now.

Decided to put it in the half of the pate withought metacam cos dont want to put him of the metacam and put it in whole cos its so small but he hasnt touched that half. It doesnt seem to ne disolving so have left the food there hoping he will come back and eat the rest in his normal grazing way.

If he doesnt have it will have to try and break or crush! Just hoping it doesnt smell!
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Dawn F on April 14, 2015, 13:35:00 PM
do they recommend glucosamine for cats, I know people who give it to dogs? or maybe that is the supplement you mention, anyway I know someone who swears her dog go a new lease of life on it - must have been a huge shock for you to find all this out
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 14, 2015, 13:59:12 PM
Yes Dawn that is the main ingredient in the capsules I have been given. Does the dog have it all the time?

Yes a major shock but does answer question why he was always so reluctant to jump up or down, I had always put it down to him being so big but it was so much more than that.
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Dawn F on April 14, 2015, 14:00:53 PM
yes Charlie (the dog) does take them nearly every day but as I say his mum is shocked at how much it has improved his movement

suppose the fact he was patched up meant someone cared about him once
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 14, 2015, 15:46:19 PM
Gill glad you had a good rest and Misa has had a wee. :hug:

Hope he takes the rest of his meds later :hug:
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on April 14, 2015, 17:01:30 PM
Glad he's moving a bit better and has had a wee  ;D
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Stuart on April 14, 2015, 18:36:23 PM
Poor Misa, keeping the positive vibes flowing His way, & a  :hug: for you
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 14, 2015, 18:41:58 PM
Thank you Stuart.

He didnt have the pill its now melted in the food but was op top and yes he has eaTEN ROUND IT SO HE MUST BE ABLE TO SMALL IT GRRRRRRRRRRRRRoops

The food is still there so Misa eat it, have mixed the pill in.

This is the pain killer so anyone have any odeas. he doesnt eat humon food or treats
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Liz on April 14, 2015, 19:13:10 PM
I have used Pill pockets from Vetmeds  in the past and also cat sticks wrapped round the pill, mixed in cat milk, and human pate is very similar to cat pate and of course tuna in spring water hides a multitude of things - all have been well used here and even fools the ferals on my ongoing journey with them just have to note on the spreadsheet who had what and change it for the next tablet session
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 14, 2015, 19:21:17 PM
As said Misa doesnt do treats or anything he has to chew given by hand, often wont chew food.

He will not eat real tuna and have no doubt the same would apply to real pate!

He is just a real cat and eats cat food, sometimes he will lick butter off a plate but only occasionally!
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: cascats on April 14, 2015, 20:12:39 PM
Just an idea, but we had an old feral who was very very canny when it came to any medication when the 'tasteless' ones  :rofl:

We ended up mixing butter and marmite together with the medication really finely crushed mixed in a gave it as a treat from our fingers  (well my husbands fingers, as for a long time only he could touch him).

Lots of positive vibrations on their way and do hope you find a way to get his meds in him.

Carol
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 14, 2015, 22:14:15 PM
Thank you carol, I wonder if he would like marmite.

Only have to give these for a week but two a day.

He has had none yet....sigh but is doing well compared to the last few days.

How much marmite v butter was used?
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: cascats on April 14, 2015, 23:32:46 PM
Think it was roughly fifty fifty. Mind you it was real butter in those days not the low fat stuff we eat now. (sigh)

We just softened it and mixed in marmite or husband says he has used Bovril. 

Maybe see if he likes butter, and then add little marmite until its to his taste.   :innocent:

Good luck.

Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 15, 2015, 00:44:34 AM
Thank you he does like butter but only when he is in the right mood lol
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 15, 2015, 01:33:19 AM
Hope butter works :hug:
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: pappilon on April 15, 2015, 05:33:22 AM
Gill, how about Primula cheese?  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 15, 2015, 07:03:21 AM


Gill, I empathise - Pad was a booga for taking meds too, and he wouldnt touch cheese or squidgy bits if he had any inkling whatsoever there were meds in the fud.    :hug: :hug:

How hsa he been overnight?  Am so glad you managed to catch up on some lost sleep yesterday.   :hug:  Thinking of you for today, and sending you tons of postive vibes.  :hug:
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 15, 2015, 07:28:10 AM
Hope you both have had a good nights sleep :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 15, 2015, 13:27:48 PM
He and the others wont touch primila Pav and neither would Ducha and Napoleon! I bought it specially for meds.......sigh

No not a good sleep for me think Misa slept Ok,

He has had about half metacam at moment so hoping he will come back and eat other half.

In the early hours he wanted to go out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no way Jose!

He has used the litter tray properly and seems to be finding that better.

Will try and speak to Gareth later cos today has been crap!
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: bickhamwitch on April 15, 2015, 14:16:56 PM
Just catching up on mail and found this thread. I am so sorry for poor Misa, and also all you are going through. It is so worrying trying to get medicine down some cats. Sending lots of healing thoughts to you both.
Julie.
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 15, 2015, 16:34:45 PM
Thank you Julie.

Have spoken to Gareth and he said that metacam is the most impoertant...........funny he told me the tabs were!

So to forget about tabs now and give metacam for a week to 10 days, Apparently some cats have it for life but he hopes Misa wont need to and if he does the dose will be reduced.

Told him I am not trying the joint supplement till finish the metacam and then will try but bthis is a life one.

Misa sleepin/lying around most of time but walking better and using tray so Gareth very pleased.

The claim form has been filled in as Suspected arthritis so Gareth thinks it will be fine.  I guess they will fight if Argos cause a problem.
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: bickhamwitch on April 15, 2015, 16:56:03 PM
I think you are wise to just go with the metacam for now. Giving too many things at the same time gives you no idea what is actually working, or isn't.
Yes and isn't it annoying when vets tell you one thing, like with the tablets being the most important, then changing their mind and totally forgetting what they have said before. Inspires a lot of faith. NOT.
Julie.
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Sootyca on April 16, 2015, 13:26:13 PM
How's Misa doing today Gill?

 :hug:
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Big Cat Lover on April 16, 2015, 14:53:15 PM
Aww, sorry to hear the Misaman has been poorly Gill.  Hope he continues to improve.  Sending lots of  :hug: to you and gentle ear rubs to Misa.  Lucky sends lots of furry headbutts to Misa.
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 16, 2015, 16:03:36 PM
Misa seems to be the same as yesterday and has now eaten all his metacam.......takes about 3 goes!

I had never noticed before but he alwys stretches out the pinned leg when he is lying and now realizw he always sorta walks stiff legged, I knew for a big cat he always took small strides and doesnr tend to run.

He bunny hops upstairs and down , where as Sasa and Lupin run.

He is not going upstairs at present but hope he will again when he is ready as the the other two sleep un the bedroom and he used to.
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 17, 2015, 07:17:54 AM



Mornning Mr Misaman.  Da Boyz and Da Borrowers wanted to say they think you're being incredibly brave, and that you have their absolute "respeck". 

Mammy P is sending you tons of healing vibes, and of course The Boys and The Borrowers send, gentle snoozles.   :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 17, 2015, 09:31:57 AM
Oh thank you for all your good vibes, I am improving really  ;D

Misa

PS my meowmy gonna post som pichures of my legs  :evillaugh: :evillaugh:

Misa has just come up on sofa for first time since being ill..he has to do a little jump onto stool   yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss  :wow: :wow:
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 17, 2015, 09:34:01 AM
 :wow:   Mmmmm - very hansum legs, if I may say so, Mr Misaman!   They may have been through the wars a bit, but goodness me they're very smart twowsers indeed.  :Luv:
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 17, 2015, 09:43:24 AM
Have updated that post sue  ;D

When he lies on his back he has a white shirt and black trousers lol
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: hollycat on April 17, 2015, 11:19:14 AM



Nice to meet you Mr Misa  ;D you are a andsome mog

Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on April 17, 2015, 16:00:26 PM
I'z very glad dat youz feelin betta Mr Misa. You av hamayzin fluffee trousis  :Crazy:

Alfie
Title: Re: Misa has chronic arthritis
Post by: alisonandarchie on April 18, 2015, 19:24:27 PM
Misaman you are one very handsome lad :hug:

Make sure you take your meds and get well soon :hug: