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Cat General => Cat related Petitions => Topic started by: Bazsmum on May 05, 2007, 00:15:35 AM
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Hi i know its not the time of the year but it'l be here before we know it judging by how quick the year's going so far :wow:
Well ive signed this myself as I know i hate the things, my dog hates em, my birds hate them....the cats turn into bags of nerves also!
Im not a stick in the mud tho as im all for public displays.....just dont like banger's getting thrown by teen-ages etc!
Hope ya's sign.....cheers x
http://www.petitiononline.com/fworks/petition.html
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Singed :)
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:Crazy: il sign lol!!! i do like fireworks but not when there done by stupid kids chuckin them at every1 and i hate to think of the poor animals tht r outside when they r goin off cus it never just the 1 nite tht the fire works are goin off. bring back the displays that the firemen used to hold where it was done in a safe and controlled environment!!!
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Signed
I find NO pleasure in fireworks at all, they upset my Reba so much. Nothing against organised displays, at least you can avoid them, but the random goings off are hell for my noise sensitive dooglie.
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i agree my poor thomas before he went missing use to hate them he hid underneath my bed and i just find there is no point exspecially at 10:00pm at night when people and animals are trying to sleep.signed.
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I have signed but find it sad in a way as when I was young and even when my daughter was young Bonfire night was one of the big family events of the year and we had so much fun. Sadly it has now got out of hand and of course the fireworks are so much more powerful.
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Signed with pleasure.
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I have signed. We don't buy the things but we do go to the organised display.Much safer. What annoys me is fireworks get set off everynight upto 4 weeks before bonfire night.
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there is a very stupid man in our street, who keeps letting fireworks off every few days, all through the year so far, he has kids and a wife too, he must buy duff ones because if you hear a woooosh and no *bang*, another rocket will go up, until he gets a bang as such. i was speaking to the local cp lady round the corner when bruiser went missing, and they have landed in her garden, and she fosters cats, the council wont do anything, appparantly it is a police matter, maybe bruiser got scared by one and done a runner and got lost. i will be signing it.
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Since there's a new thread in general concerning fireworks i thought i might bring this back up again ;)
http://www.petitiononline.com/fworks/petition.html
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Signed. Cannot believe there are only 53 signatures on petition. >:(
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Changing the law will only stop the law abiding. the people who spoil it for the rest will not heed any new laws as they are already lawbreakers, look at gun crime ban guns and the problem got worse :(
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I have to agree Horza, private fireworks have been banned in Australia for several years now, but you still have outbursts of fireworks at irregular intervals through the year. And no, the police do not care - they have better things to deal with
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I'm sad to say BC and Horza are right. :(
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I will never understand that in these days of FEAR EVERYTHING FOR EVERYTHING IS SCARY OMG TERRORISTS AT YOUR BACKDOOR Daily Express paranoia etc, that it is perfectly legal to sell powerful explosives to anyone over the age of whatever. Seriously, wtf.
I hate them myself, they are loud, scary and smell.
Nowt like the gentle fizz and wheeeeeeeee of the fireworks and sparklers from my yoof.
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That's the problem and yes its unreal when you think of terrorists etc....I really dont mind organised display's, I am not against responsible adults organising there own back garden mini displays....its when they are used as missiles :sigh:
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already signed it ??
but looking through the comment's came across this one
26. Alex Liverpool Why do you want to ban them? Let other people have fun. At least kids aren't inside watching TV all of the time
"No they're Probably out up to mischief with fireworks!!!"
What a TiT >:(
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Signed.I think may be some people like me havent seen the petition!Thats why is only 60 signiture?
From nowon i will check the animal petition at all times. :thanks:
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Signed with pleasure 8)
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I tried to sign it but it said I had already signed it. It the same one from last year >:( - 60 signatures in a year :Crazy:
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I tried to sign it but not sure if it worked
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unfortunately some rather stupid people have signed with some nasty meassages (check out the guy from Florida) there should be something to remove useless signatures.
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I've signed
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I tried to sign it but not sure if it worked
You should get a confirmation email from them ;)
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I have signed this one because I have always been against the general public being allowed to purchase what amounts to dangerous explosives. Kids hurt themselves and evil people torture animals with them - it's ridiculous that this still goes on considering the 'Nanny State' we now appear to live in!
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Signed...
Thats a better count...I was 254th to sign.
Was discussing this with a woman in Tesco's a couple of days ago. Safe to say both of us agreed that we are heartily sick of the abuse of fireworks we see today. I love fireworks but the scummy little sods who get thier hands on them nowadays mean that they must be removed from public sale. The fact that we are also subjected to it for at least 3 months nowadays means that nervous pets are suffering even more (as a lot of on here are aware of).
Yet another beautiful thing corrupted by the irresponsible >:(
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signed
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I have signed this one because I have always been against the general public being allowed to purchase what amounts to dangerous explosives. Kids hurt themselves and evil people torture animals with them - it's ridiculous that this still goes on considering the 'Nanny State' we now appear to live in!
and you want to make it even more so? what about when the government decides that you should only leave the house with a bodyguard for safety reason will you comply with that too?
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I have signed this one because I have always been against the general public being allowed to purchase what amounts to dangerous explosives. Kids hurt themselves and evil people torture animals with them - it's ridiculous that this still goes on considering the 'Nanny State' we now appear to live in!
and you want to make it even more so? what about when the government decides that you should only leave the house with a bodyguard for safety reason will you comply with that too?
Typical. If some scruffy little scroat were to tie a banger or rocket to your cat's tail would you still think fireworks should be sold to the public? I live in an area where people breed yobs like rabbits, and they were out there today behind the flats where I unfortunately live, setting off fireworks before it was even dark. We have a community of strays living in our gardens and it scared the hell out of them, maybe they will even kill a few, who knows but I am sure that wouldn't bother you. I am dead set against the government taking over our lives, but I don't think EXPLOSIVES should be advertised and sold to irresponsible people. How would you feel if your child (if you have one) was seriously injured if not killed by some stupid kid throwing fireworks? I bet you would bleat and cry about getting them banned then. Anyway, if you are so pro-firework what they hell are you doing posting here? Just to put your little oar in I suppose and I bet you like a little argument. I knew joining a fourm was a bad idea, because it's full of idiots - like you. Go post somwhere else.
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I don't think I will if you don't like my opinion then you know where you can go, I do have a child and yes I do worry about such things, but not to the extent of bannig things, we have fireworks for years now and it only mindless yobs that cause problems so all the decent people have to do without I don't think so.
I have been here for a long time and you just turn up making your mouth go, its you that needs to go elsewhere
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I don't think I will if you don't like my opinion then you know where you can go, I do have a child and yes I do worry about such things, but not to the extent of banning things, we have fireworks for years now and it only mindless yobs that cause problems so all the decent people have to do without I don't think so.
I have been here for a long time and you just turn up making your mouth go, its you that needs to go elsewhere
I knew the 'I have been on here for years' thing would crop up. Just because you have made 3 billion posts does not give you any more right than I to post or say things or challenge a reply. I actually have better things to do with my time (like caring for my cat and cleaning the toilet) instead of sitting at some screen typing messages to people I will never meet. I just thought it would be nice to chat to other like minded people - what a joke that turned out to be. It is for that reason I have come to the conclusion that a forum is waste of time and I shouldn't have wasted mine joining one because I will just get treated like some primary school child. No, I haven't been posting for years but I object to being treated like some sixteen year old on their first day at work. You will be sending me for the 'long stand' at this rate, or how about a bucket of tartan paint? There are a few other people on here that agree with me and think fireworks should be banned, so why quote me? Oh yes, because I am a NEWBIE. I bet you wouldn't dare go against a 'five gold stars' member would you? How dare a newbie 'make her mouth go'? Shock horror for me posting a reply you didn't like. Pick on somebody else! And yes, I do know where I can go. A million miles away from petty this forum and its narrow minded people with their 'I have been here longer than you' attitude. Did they give you a prefects badge? Do you polish it? Happy posting - again and again and again and again because you don't seem to have much else to do.
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thankyou
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This thread doesn't have to turn into an argument.
h0rZa, no offence but if you don't agree with the petition, just don't sign it. Butch R.I.P you have every right to air your views as much as anyone on the forum, and I understand your distress. We have people setting fireworks off sporadically near us at the moment.
People don't have to miss out on fireworks displays - there are organised events by most local councils to my knowledge.
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This thread doesn't have to turn into an argument.
Absolutely, we all have different opinions on this and indeed any subject but please can we try and remain civil. It doesn't matter how many posts anyone has made or how long they've been a member, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. We do however have to be prepared for people to disagree with them, I think personal insults are uncalled for.
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Healthy debate is a good thing. Insulting posts aren't.
I think there's room on every forum for the views of new and existing members to co-exist side by side, even in opposition.
I speak as someone whose husband is deaf in one ear directly due to a firework throwing incident in his youth. I dislike them intensely for the harm they do, but I don't think banning them from public use will work either.
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Just my two pennies worth on this. Other moderators have stated a similar opinion to mine regarding the way the thread has moved.
I do believe that a law can work.
This is a media release published in South Africa a year ago reminding residents of Johannesburg of the by-law that was passed banning fireworks apart from 11 days a year and on those days, the locations/times they are permitted to do so. It does work. Yes there are those who abuse the law, but they are in the minority and the law is enforced if they are caught.
MEDIA RELEASE
November Fireworks days (Guy Fawkes – 5 Nov and Divali – 9 Nov)
Statement on official Fireworks policy of City of Johannesburg
Issued by: Cllr Tim Sargeant - DA Council Spokesperson on Environmental Matters
11 October 2007
Rights of residents and domestic and other animals
Annual illegal noise and consequent animal terror
"Fireworks Month" (November) is around the corner and the annual Johannesburg fireworks noise frenzy is about to affect every resident of the City as well as their pets and other suburban animals and birds.
Improper use of fireworks is illegal in Johannesburg and it is important to remind residents about the City's strict fireworks regulations and about the rights of residents to demand Council action against illegal fireworks usage.
A few facts:-
Unless special Council authorisation has been applied for and granted, there are only 11 days annually when residents are allowed to "light or ignite" fireworks. Guy Fawkes and Divali are such days. (R 500 fine on other days).
Except for New Year's Eve, the only permissible time period for igniting fireworks on these days is between 19h00 and 22h00 (7 to 10 pm). (R 500 fine at any other time).
No person may light or ignite fireworks in any place where animals are present (R 1 000 fine). This includes domestic homes.
No person may allow any minor (child) under his or her control to "use, light or ignite" fireworks (R 1 500 fine). No exceptions to this rule.
No person may use fireworks on any agricultural holding or at any school or senior citizens' residence without special Council authorisation ( R 1 000 to R 1 500 fine). This authorisation must be sought well in advance of intended day.
No person can use fireworks within 500 metres of any petrol depot or petrol station without special Council authorisation ( R 1 500 fine).
No person or organisation can "present a fireworks display" unless formally authorised to do so by the Council (at least 14 days' notice before the display is required by Council to consider such an application). Authorisation is also required from the Civil Aviation Authority and the Chief Inspector of Explosives. (Multiple fines of R 1 500 are applicable).
At such a display (should permission be granted) a pyrotechnist and SA Police Services explosives expert must be present at all times. (R 1 500 fines).
No person may deal in fireworks (sell or make available) unless they hold a fireworks licence in terms of the Explosives Act as well as the written authority of the Chief Fire Officer.(R 1 500 fine).
The reign of terror which afflicts Johannesburg's large pet population when people indiscriminately (and often criminally) ignite noisy fireworks at all times of the day and night gets worse every year.
Firm enforcement of the by-laws will assist in reducing the noise and panic levels and allow people (and their pets) to plan for "noisy" periods thus producing a quieter, safer environment for all concerned.
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That's really interesting Ruth.
Do they enforce it fairly rigorously? I think that's the potential problem with a ban here - the Police are hard pushed to react to crime at the best of times, although if it were enforceable through other means (community teams, wardens etc) then it might be a winner.
I know the fire brigade are pretty good where we live now - they respond to any unauthorised bonfires very quickly, but I'm still not convinced a fireworks ban could be effectively policed, or that it wouldn't turn into a police-baiting exercise either.
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According to my family out there, yes, very much so. The police in Johannesburg are stretched to the limit with murders and the like so this might not seem a priority, but you'd be surprised at how they address this. It can work, even if its at a local level.
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What's the police-on-the-street level like there Ruth? Are they more prominent, and do they carry arms? (sorry for my ignorance here, just not sure what sort of framework they operate within)
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Yes, the police framework out in SA is different to the UK, they are armed. They treat each situation as the same - only draw arms if threatened (obviously like in any country there is always a more aggressive kind within any law keeping force so I speak generally). Sadly the "fining" seems to work in the UK as well. In Enfield they will fine you £80 if you litter. Fantastic, and they enforce it, so Enfield is a relatively clean area of London. The threat of prison sentences doesn't scare people that much in this country (or in many I suppose), but high fines do.
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Hmmm. Food for thought. I'd certainly have respect for a police officer who was armed, than one who wasn't. And by respect I think I mean that I'd be more scared they'd be trigger happy!
Difficulty with fines is that so often they aren't paid, and not enforced, although not widely publicised.
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Setting aside what I personally think or don't think about the substantive issue, one member has called another member an idiot then gone on to make personal insults and that is unacceptable. You may express your views on any matter under discussion as strongly as you wish, Butch R.I.P, whether you have made one post or 10,000, but ad hominem attacks are ugly.
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I have signed it. I hate seeing pets petrified - It broke my heart seeing photos of Den's Molly :'(. Ideally I would like to see a complete ban - why should people and pets be subjected to other peoples noise? - It seems fireworks are made to be loud rather than colourful these days. I like the SA model. If people must let them off, they should be in set places, times and days only.
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the only reason I haven't signed is that I feel its just a further erosion of our civil liberties, and the sadist out there will find other things to use and that is a separate problem that needs addressed
Mark I'm with you on the loud thing fireworks just ain't the same anymore
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The problem with fireworks these days, as Mark and Horza have just said, is that they are way louder, way bigger, and way more powerful than they used to me.
They are certainly far removed from the little boxes we used to buy for the back garden when I was growing up, these are very powerful explosives, which is a worry.
The other problem is that anyone seems to be able to buy these huge fireworks now, so where I think they used to be for displays only, joe public can now buy pretty much anything on the internet, which is a worry.
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I am very impressed by that statement from SA Ruth and would love to see something like that here. And also see it enforced :shify: :shify:
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I feel its just a further erosion of our civil liberties
Surely if "The people" vote for it, it isn't?
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I feel its just a further erosion of our civil liberties
Surely if "The people" vote for it, it isn't?
do you think the govement would let us vote on the matter?
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No but if there was a well organised petition with a lot of signatures, they could be lobbied. This one doesn't look too hopeful with 250 signatures :(
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I would just like to say ... Butch RIP has apologised for her "attack" on hOrZa.
Butch RIP has decided not to be an active member on the forum however I think we all understand that following the loss of a furbabe feelings and emotions do run high and I think this was one of those times.
Hopefully if and/or when Butch RIP visits us again this matter will be forgotten and no grudges held.
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No grudge here, if your skin is thin the internet is no place to hang out :)
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Thanks hOrZa :)
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I have signed it and think personally that they should only be used for proper organised displays if at all . Also if they have to have them , well away from animals of all descriptions and only on the 5th Nov- not 2 weeks before and 2 weeks after !
I live in a quiet area, but someone had them going off on the 31st Oct , tonight , bonfire at the school on the 6th and a village one on the 8 th ??Why ? I was told bonfire night was the 5th Nov - not before , not after .
At least that way , animals can be kept inside anbd for one night only ( fr those that have their cats out later )
I just get mine in when its dusk , even though they have a cat proof garden and dont go out of it - i still check every 20mins they are still there - unless they grow springs on their legs they cannot get out, also back door is always open till they are in for the night .
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I hate the :censored: things and for the past 2 nights have had to watch 2 out of my 4 normally confident lively Bengals turn into shaking wrecks to the extent that Harry actually peed himself. The other 4 are luckily not bothered at all but the 2 that are more than make up for it - it breaks my heart to see them like this.
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we have been very lucky where we live we've had about a minutes worth all week, when we lived in London it went on for about a month dwali, eid and then guy fawkes then people started doing them for new year and weddings, goes on and on
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Fireworks going off here now and hopefully not for long - my 2 are fast asleep :)
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Signed.
The state of Maryland (where I'm from) has a ban on fireworks so you can only buy sparklers and small noise makers. So to me having your own fireworks from the corner shop is unheard of.
Too many stories about kids losing fingers and animals being hurt for me to even want to use them, however one day when I have the time I'm going to take a course in pyrotechnology and learn how to blow things up correctly ;)
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signed
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I've gladly signed this, one of our cats who sadly has now passed on, was injured by an airgun when she was young, ever after that whenever there was a bang she would be terrified and scuttle under the bed. Where we live the fireworks start in September and go through to January so those months were misery for her. Organised displays are fine (except for the outdoor animals they scare) but some people have spolied it for the rest of the general public and I really think there should be strict controls.
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Damn, it wouldn't let me sign again.
Mary
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I don't think I will if you don't like my opinion then you know where you can go, I do have a child and yes I do worry about such things, but not to the extent of banning things, we have fireworks for years now and it only mindless yobs that cause problems so all the decent people have to do without I don't think so.
I have been here for a long time and you just turn up making your mouth go, its you that needs to go elsewhere
I knew the 'I have been on here for years' thing would crop up. Just because you have made 3 billion posts does not give you any more right than I to post or say things or challenge a reply. I actually have better things to do with my time (like caring for my cat and cleaning the toilet) instead of sitting at some screen typing messages to people I will never meet. I just thought it would be nice to chat to other like minded people - what a joke that turned out to be. It is for that reason I have come to the conclusion that a forum is waste of time and I shouldn't have wasted mine joining one because I will just get treated like some primary school child. No, I haven't been posting for years but I object to being treated like some sixteen year old on their first day at work. You will be sending me for the 'long stand' at this rate, or how about a bucket of tartan paint? There are a few other people on here that agree with me and think fireworks should be banned, so why quote me? Oh yes, because I am a NEWBIE. I bet you wouldn't dare go against a 'five gold stars' member would you? How dare a newbie 'make her mouth go'? Shock horror for me posting a reply you didn't like. Pick on somebody else! And yes, I do know where I can go. A million miles away from petty this forum and its narrow minded people with their 'I have been here longer than you' attitude. Did they give you a prefects badge? Do you polish it? Happy posting - again and again and again and again because you don't seem to have much else to do.
I don't know why you are so aggressive? We all have our opinions and state them. I, too, am a Newbie. I loathe what fireworks do, living in a place where we get them non-stop, pretty much from October to March, with odd 'Occasions' thoughout the year. At the sametime, I love fireworks in properly organised displays. People are warned weeks in advance to keep pets in, I agree that it affects the wildlife, but if it is only for a couple of weeks a year?
BTW, are you in the market for some 'sky hooks?' :rofl:
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Judecat it's more than a few weeks a year. From November they go on through the New Year. It's all very well saying to keep pets in but the noise travels through air and walls so any pet can be terrified in their own homes. My own dog had to be medicated last year unfortunately even that had little effect. She won't eat, she's terrified of going in the garden so therefore won't relieve herself after dark. The following day any slight bang from outsides sets her off into a trembling, hyperventilating wreck. There is no way to get away from it short of having an outright ban on these hideous explosives. I'm fed up of seeing my dog getting worse each year for the sake of other people. I'm terrified that one day something really bad is going to happen to her because of the awful state she ends up in.
Organized events would no doubt lead to bigger louder and longer bangs. Since I'm near to somewhere that would have these I'm firmly against organised displays too. Anything to to give my poor baby a better life ( and she's not even 4 years old :( ).
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In the interest of debate, could you not move to somewhere quieter?
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Well I'm already on the outskirts of town .. Miles of countryside one side, industrial estate with no houses anotherside and acres of park on another there just happens to be other houses here too LOL. 99% of the time it's perfectly peaceful, without fireworks it would be 99.9% peaceful so nope not gonna move.
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so nope not gonna move.
but you expect everybody to give up fireworks? :poke: :)
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so nope not gonna move.
but you expect everybody to give up fireworks? :poke: :)
Indeed I do ... I'm very protective of my baby and any other poor critter who is affected ... :P to fireworks.
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isn't the needs of the many worth protecting too?
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Rob! Whats wrong dear....Are you frustrated? :evillaugh: :smack:
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lol no :evillaugh: but I do understand where people are coming from, and I'm lucky my cats are not bothered one iota about fireworks, 2 didn't even bother coming of the window sills :) but I do get annoyed as we get pushed more and more to a PC controlled nanny state. [and breathe]
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lol no :evillaugh: but I do understand where people are coming from, and I'm lucky my cats are not bothered one iota about fireworks, 2 didn't even bother coming of the window sills :) but I do get annoyed as we get pushed more and more to a PC controlled nanny state. [and breathe]
I understand where you are coming from too! But trying to get peeps to understand what is really going on is an uphill struggle! Far too many sheeple! :tired:
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well I don't agree with many things that get banned but fireworks do so much damage mentally and physically yet serve no real purpose. If it's fancy lights in the sky people want there are other options.
Even the USA, the biggest lover of all things destructive have very restricted sales of them.
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so you ban fireworks because you feel it serves no use and/or are pointless, but then someone else comes along and bans pets/fairground rides/bird watching/???? because they provide no use and/or are pointless, its a slippery slope :(
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Ahh, but Horza pets, fairground rides and bird watching don't result in quivering wrecks. OK well some people might turn into Quivering wrecks, but there's always therapy for those folks!!!!
Firework induced quivering wrecks aka wildlife and peoples pets are something that won't get cured in most cases. :P for you trying to be smart, I'm not budging until my poor, poor, poor, innocent, youthful poopy doesn't have to endure nightly terrors. The worst part is one loud bang can take hours for her to settle.
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You two remind me of a film I watched some time ago, well the two were as stubborn as each other......Gone with the Wind!!! :naughty:
Are you sure you arnt an old married couple? :innocent:
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found this for you
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/craro-isle-scotland.htm
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found this for you
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/craro-isle-scotland.htm
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Aww, Horza how sweet of you! Could you not have gone quite a bit further south and a lot further west and ended up here http://www.privateislandsonline.com/haapitiisland.htm instead of cold, wet Scotland :rofl: :rofl:
You two remind me of a film I watched some time ago, well the two were as stubborn as each other......Gone with the Wind!!! :naughty:
Are you sure you arnt an old married couple? :innocent:
Well now that you mention it ............. :evillaugh:
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I was trying to save you some money if money is not a problem try this
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/muchao-da-poava-portugal.htm
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You two are mental.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
So when should I buy the hat? :shify:
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I was trying to save you some money if money is not a problem try this
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/muchao-da-poava-portugal.htm
Tis a little bit on the cheap side, a bit too economy but it might just have to do. Although my linky does have less concrete.
After consulting Molly, she's decided she would love you to have this one (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Alcatraz_dawn_2005-01-07.jpg) completely free of course ....
:evillaugh:
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great when can I pick it up :evillaugh:
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I don't know why you are so aggressive? We all have our opinions and state them. I, too, am a Newbie. I loathe what fireworks do, living in a place where we get them non-stop, pretty much from October to March, with odd 'Occasions' thoughout the year. At the sametime, I love fireworks in properly organised displays. People are warned weeks in advance to keep pets in, I agree that it affects the wildlife, but if it is only for a couple of weeks a year?
Wow is this thread still active? I forgot about purrs. Looking back I really did make a nasty post there. Apologies Horza. I was in a bad place then. Have medication now though lol. It would seem my psychiatrist thinks I am bi-polar. Every psychiatrist thinks their patients are bi-polar these days, of course that does not excuse what I said. Don't worry, if I hurt your feelings I will have to suffer the karmic repercussions of my actions when this current life is over. I am not a nasty person, honest, but I do tend to lose control of my temper (as I explained to you Jude in the message about the poor innocent fan I killed). Anyways, I got another cat (Star the wallpaper eater) not just for me but also for company for my little girl, Tabitha, and I although still miss my little ginger trumpet face a lot, I am OK about it I guess. I follow spiritualism now and realise that Butch died for a reason. I am hoping he has been promoted to human being on his next life if such a thing is possible, he deserves it because he was an amazing, intuitive little cat. Having said that, maybe a cats life is better! And as for the fireworks thing, I am truly not bothered if they ban them or not. If they did, people would still manage to get hold of them and it might make things even more dangerous when people buy them from 'the black market' because let's face it, people buy and die from illegal drugs all the time.Just because something is techincally banned, it won't stop people doing/using whatever it is. I do wish people wouldn't light bangers at 2:00am though when folk are trying to get to sleep, especially miserable grumpy old battleaxes like me.
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That's such a warm, grown up post :hug:
I'm a ban the buggas kinda gal meself :evillaugh: except for organised displays as I love fireworks but really wouldn't dream of setting them off locally.
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welcome back :welcome: and no apology is needed we both went a bit daft :)
lovely picture too
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welcome back :welcome: and no apology is needed we both went a bit daft :)
lovely picture too
Thanks Horza. I guess we all have our moments! The pic is of my two babies, Star and Tabitha cuddled up on 'their' sofa lol. They are not so far off being a year old now, but I won't be letting them out. Star is hellbent on going out (and he has had his op too but he still yowls at the front door) but Tabitha isn't bothered. He has escaped a few times and always goes and lies in the mud. I just couldn't bear losing another cat to the road but at the same time, I feel guilty because Star especially has a yearning for the great outdoors and I have always let my cats have their freedom, but end up losing them because of it. We took Star to the cemetery on a lead a while ago and he was like a kid at Christmas! He is too fat for the harness now so we will have to get a bigger one! Here is a pic of the little monkey.
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If I put mine in harnesses they collapse to the floor :rofl: mine don't sleep together neither very close together but rarely touching
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Lovely pics there Butch! :Luv2:
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Again, lovely piccies.
Next doors black Lab has a nasty scar on his shoulder and a white patch of hair on his tail, he was so scared of the loud bangs the year before last that he hid behind the telly against the radiator pipes. The Vet said that his pain shut down because he was concentrating so hard on the noises that he didn't feel himself burning.
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Poor baby :'( That is awful and another example of how ignorant & selfish people think their pleasure comes before all else. >:(
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Only just seen this, but signed, definately!!!
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Only just seen this myself, and most definitely signed.
I am not a member of the "ban everything brigade" - far from it; but banning fireworks
from being in possession of the general public is definietly a good thing.
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Signed today. I think fireworks should be for use in organised displays on 5th November only. I also think bangers should be banned completely.
Hope the cynics will see sense.
Henrietta
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Signed.
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It's a bit disappointing that we can't get more to sign.
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Signed, added to my facebook & frwd to all in my UK address book. Hope it helps.
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That's brilliant thank you. I wonder if any famous / celebrity types would sign it for us - might help?
Any ideas?
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Tee hee, here's my chance to say all those UK celebs that people have recommended I contact to sign our ban declawing petition might sign the firework one, go to it girl! I'll put the link to this petition onthe three anti-declawing groups I'm admin of, the UK members will surely sign.
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Excellent!
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Take it away ladies! :wow: :hug: