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Title: woman drowns 8 cats. ... please sign the added petition
Post by: Angiew on October 04, 2010, 12:59:35 PM
No upsetting photo but couldn't find warning triangle.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1316841/Housewife-drowned-cats-baby-bath-afford-phone-RSPCA.html
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Cooper & Peanut on October 04, 2010, 13:04:45 PM
 :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

*speechless*
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Teresa Pawcats on October 04, 2010, 13:07:19 PM
I just dont believe this, something is missing. Baby bath adult cats never without drugging first.
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on October 04, 2010, 13:11:56 PM
I don't believe it either.  :tired: Most cats won't go into a cat basket without a struggle, let alone let themselves be drowned in a baby bath... they've had ripped her to shreds first.  :innocent:
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: jezebel on October 04, 2010, 13:18:03 PM
 :sick:

What a lovely example to set her son.
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on October 04, 2010, 13:21:15 PM
I just dont believe this, something is missing. Baby bath adult cats never without drugging first.


Thats exactly what I thought when I read it in the paper yesterday
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Mark on October 04, 2010, 15:15:36 PM
I hope this piece of scum gets ripped limb from limb -  >:(

Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Dawn F on October 04, 2010, 15:36:32 PM
this was on cat chat a few days ago from a sky news link, she did say she got bitten  :'(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Lottie (Team Svartalfheim's) on October 04, 2010, 16:03:35 PM
That is horrific  >:( >:( >:( Those poor poor cats  :( :'( :( :'(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Mark on October 04, 2010, 16:47:09 PM
I would be first in the queue to hold this monster's head under water  >:(

Part of our animal welfare lecture this morning was that we were given true-life animal cruelty cases and asked to discuss them in pairs re the punishment given etc. The consensus was that the punishment is always paltry compared to the crime. Our lecturer agreed with this - she just wanted to see what our opinion was. She said regardless of laws being there to protect animals, they are still seen as utilitarian - there for humans benefit. Although the law in theory is there to protect the animals, they are still not given the protection they appear to  :(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on October 04, 2010, 17:18:35 PM
Whether she drowned them in baby bath, a pubble or a teaspoon of water ... the fact remains she KILLED them and apparently is showing no remorse!  Evil   :censored: B**CH


RIP little souls .... safe with the angels now.
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Mark on October 04, 2010, 17:28:43 PM
So she can afford Evian bottled water but not a phone call?  >:(

I'm sure she will get a slap on the wrist for it  :tired:

Those poor babies must have been so frightened and suffered so much  :'( - I hope she dies in agony  >:(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Dawn F on October 04, 2010, 17:29:59 PM
its the premediated nature of it that makes me so sick, I really hope she will be made an example of but of course I doubt it
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Cooper & Peanut on October 04, 2010, 17:44:47 PM

Those poor babies must have been so frightened and suffered so much  :'( - I hope she dies in agony  >:(

I can't even bear to think about what they went through...  :'( :'(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: bunglycat on October 04, 2010, 17:59:16 PM
People who do these things , honestly make me so angry i could explode  :censored: :censored:
She should be hung ,drawn and quartered and left to die in a rotting cess pit.
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Fire Fox on October 04, 2010, 18:33:35 PM
Couldn't afford to ring the RSPCA, but she managed to feed 11 cats? Benefits are not that little, in any case her son is of school age so she could get a job, or walk to the nearest rescue and ask in person for help.  >:(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on October 04, 2010, 18:40:02 PM
And I bet she's got internet access!
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Guest on October 04, 2010, 19:05:27 PM
Speechless.
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Post by: JackSpratt on October 04, 2010, 20:02:13 PM
There are no words..... :(
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Post by: AliCat on October 04, 2010, 22:37:44 PM
That's just horrific.
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: LesleyW on October 05, 2010, 09:24:28 AM
What this woman has done is horrific but I am also shocked that it took the RSPCA three weeks to call at the house after the Housing Officer had been, assuming that the Housing Officer contacted them after he had visited.  This should surely have been treated as a case of neglect and therefore been a priority.


I would also add that if she had contacted our local RSPCA Centre of her own volition for the cats to be taken in, she would have been turned away as they are full (or have cat flu, whichever story you hear from them when they answer the telephone).
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: mervyn7451 on October 05, 2010, 19:22:22 PM
I think she should be made to wear that dress that Lady Gaga wore made from meat & dropped off in the middle of the Serengete...

I just hope she doesn't have kids...maybe sterilisation  just in case she wants to have any! Kinder in the long run!
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Mark on October 05, 2010, 19:30:38 PM
I have just been thinking about this excuse for a woman. She will get free counsel and they will end up trying to make her into some kind of victim, saying she had financial worries, was depresssed etc etc. She should be slowly flayed to give her time to reflect and understand the suffering she caused.  >:(

Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: jezebel on October 06, 2010, 09:04:04 AM
I just hope she doesn't have kids...maybe sterilisation  just in case she wants to have any! Kinder in the long run!

She has a seven-year old  but sterilisation is still a good idea in case she has any more.
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Ellen2010 on October 07, 2010, 01:35:55 AM
What this woman has done is horrific but I am also shocked that it took the RSPCA three weeks to call at the house after the Housing Officer had been, assuming that the Housing Officer contacted them after he had visited.  This should surely have been treated as a case of neglect and therefore been a priority.


I would also add that if she had contacted our local RSPCA Centre of her own volition for the cats to be taken in, she would have been turned away as they are full (or have cat flu, whichever story you hear from them when they answer the telephone).

I have known the RSPCA take 8 weeks when I reported someone for having a puppy attached to the door chain via a lead in the kitchen and sleeping in its own urine and faeces, so 3 weeks is good for them :'(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Shiroi-Neko on October 07, 2010, 18:13:50 PM
What a horrible Evil  :censored:, just can't understand what gives some people heartless minds!
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Mark on October 28, 2010, 08:54:05 AM
Sentencing is tomorrow - I really hope she gets what is coming to her. I'm sure she will escape jail due to having children  :tired: http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/8427796._I_drowned_eight_cats__admits_mum_who_now_faces_jail/

I can't find any more up-to-date news other than what was reported at the beginning of the month - compared to the cat-in-bin, this is horrendous, but it didn't have the media/facebook hysteria attached to it.

Any purrs reporters in the Oxford area that can attend the hearing?

I wish it was the good old days and a judge put a black cloth on their head before sentencing her to hang  >:(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on October 28, 2010, 11:15:43 AM
What an evil, evil  :censored: Presumably she felt something for the cats to have them living with her (says they were 1-3 years in the article) in the first place so how she could do that to her own pets is beyond belief. Just a disgusting excuse for a human being  >:(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Fire Fox on October 28, 2010, 15:51:49 PM
... I'm sure she will escape jail due to having children  ... I can't find any more up-to-date news other than what was reported at the beginning of the month - compared to the cat-in-bin, this is horrendous, but it didn't have the media/facebook hysteria attached to it.

f she does escape a prison sentence perhaps that will make the general public realise legislation for animals is woefully inadequate.  :(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Mark on October 30, 2010, 10:11:41 AM
She It only got 12 weeks  >:( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-11653149

Also banned from keeping animals for life - although how do they police that?

I sincerely hope there are some cat lovers who will top up the paltry sentence  >:(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: jezebel on October 30, 2010, 16:35:52 PM
At least she got a jail sentence, I wasn't expecting that.

And you're right Mark, how on earth to they police that?
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Mark on October 30, 2010, 19:29:56 PM
I can only find one other update  :Crazy: http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/headlines/8484893.Woman_jailed_for_drowning_cats/ Local news.

I'm amazed how little interest there is.


Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: mervyn7451 on October 30, 2010, 20:31:37 PM
She It only got 12 weeks  >:( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-11653149

Also banned from keeping animals for life - although how do they police that?

I sincerely hope there are some cat lovers who will top up the paltry sentence  >:(

Mark,
Look on the bright side..it's now got a criminal record so if it applies for a job,it'll have to declare that.Doubt she'll get an interview for a job with that on her record...
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Mark on October 30, 2010, 20:42:37 PM
She It only got 12 weeks  >:( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-11653149

Also banned from keeping animals for life - although how do they police that?

I sincerely hope there are some cat lovers who will top up the paltry sentence  >:(

Mark,
Look on the bright side..it's now got a criminal record so if it applies for a job,it'll have to declare that.Doubt she'll get an interview for a job with that on her record...

I doubt it has ever worked in its life.
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: beckamsimmons on November 01, 2010, 16:27:58 PM
Cases like this are utterly depressing. Violence never solved anything but it would be pretty hard to hold back if I ever came across this scumbag. It SICKENS me to the pit of my stomach the cruelty that goes on.  :( :( :'( :'( :-:
It makes me more and more determined to get a nice big garden and house one day so I can foster or look after lots of cats, as there's so many in need.

B :Luv2:
xx
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: jeremys_mummy on November 01, 2010, 20:59:06 PM
Unspeakable poor kittys RIP little ones.

away from the one who was supposed to be your mummy :(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Ellen2010 on November 02, 2010, 16:01:13 PM
She It only got 12 weeks  >:( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-11653149

Also banned from keeping animals for life - although how do they police that?

I sincerely hope there are some cat lovers who will top up the paltry sentence  >:(

They are reliant on people (neighbours,etc) reporting the person so if it moves to another town then it is impossible to do so unless it got out to people living near her.
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Angiew on November 02, 2010, 16:17:30 PM
i have always said that the rspca should publish a list of banned people so that rescues at least can check - this info. is all in the public domain just needs a central point to administer and it makes sense the rspca should be the ones....
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Mark on November 02, 2010, 21:12:14 PM
i have always said that the rspca should publish a list of banned people

Just as well it isn't my decision as I would have them branded on their forehead!  >:(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Steff - Petsearch Bedford HQ on November 02, 2010, 21:13:59 PM
That sounds a grand idea Angie. Would be similar to known shoplifter photolists that the police give to shops in town centres.

Could it be put to the RSPCA maybe with a petition? Would they take any notice??
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Yvonne on December 31, 2010, 11:38:32 AM
Don't know whether this petition has been posted previously

http://www.petition.co.uk/jail-julie-carter-cat-killer
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats.
Post by: Tiggerman on December 31, 2010, 15:30:50 PM
I havent seen this petition before - just signed it.
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Post by: bunglycat on December 31, 2010, 15:32:09 PM
Signed it.
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats. ... please sign the added petition
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on December 31, 2010, 16:01:24 PM
signed
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats. ... please sign the added petition
Post by: Pudding on December 31, 2010, 23:10:38 PM
If you look further down this thread its the same story that was originally posted at the beginning of October.
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats. ... please sign the added petition
Post by: Mark on December 31, 2010, 23:49:34 PM
I signed it but there are only 28 signatures. Anyway, she was jailed for 3 months - not long enough! - I hope some of the inmates were cat lovers - I also hope she lives in fear when she comes out, although it will be nothing like the suffering she inflicted on these poor cats - evil scum  >:(
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats. ... please sign the added petition
Post by: Fire Fox on January 01, 2011, 00:11:40 AM
It is distressing to hear such vitriole coming from  people whom I know are wonderful and caring.  :'( This woman has been convicted, campaign to change the law if that is not sufficient. Torturing this person will not bring those cats back and cannot prevent their suffering.  :'(
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Post by: JackSpratt on January 01, 2011, 17:23:41 PM
 :hug: Firefox. You're right, the law was at fault on this one; clearly a three month sentence isn't all that long, but I have to say this - noone in their right mind would think that what was done was an alternative to calling a rescue. I still think she should've been sentenced to longer, though. It send out entirely the wrong message to people who are "not nice."
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats. ... please sign the added petition
Post by: Mark on January 01, 2011, 20:52:58 PM
It is distressing to hear such vitriole coming from  people whom I know are wonderful and caring.  :'( This woman has been convicted, campaign to change the law if that is not sufficient. Torturing this person will not bring those cats back and cannot prevent their suffering.  :'(

Sorry FF but I think she should be paying for this for the rest of her miserable life. I know it won't happen but they could have given her 1000 or more hours community service working (supervised) shovelling animal mess.
Title: Re: woman drowns 8 cats. ... please sign the added petition
Post by: Fire Fox on January 02, 2011, 22:52:02 PM
It is distressing to hear such vitriole coming from  people whom I know are wonderful and caring.  :'( This woman has been convicted, campaign to change the law if that is not sufficient. Torturing this person will not bring those cats back and cannot prevent their suffering.  :'(

Sorry FF but I think she should be paying for this for the rest of her miserable life. I know it won't happen but they could have given her 1000 or more hours community service working (supervised) shovelling animal mess.

Please don't apologise, Mark, your feelings and opinions are absolutely valid.  :hug:

I'm not saying I disagree with you completely, I feel physically unwell when I read about this sort of thing. I am in favour of community service - the greatest leveller there is - but not for corporal punishment or the death penalty which reduces us to that same level of cruelty. IMO this should not be about one case as we don't know anything about her mental state, we need to look at the legislation which fails defenceless animals again and again.  :'( 

As Jackspratt says "noone in their right mind would think that what was done was an alternative to calling a rescue" nor would anyone in their right mind admit it to the authorities right off the bat. We need to be looking at the level of (social) education we are providing these days, why people see animals as possessions, why they think it acceptable to smoke through pregnancy .... Punishment is not a deterrent and I honestly don't believe it would make anyone here on Purrs feel better about the horrors that have taken place.  :'(