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Title: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 10, 2008, 20:31:27 PM
PLEASE READ THIS AND TAKE ACTION.

Please send an e-mail and sign the petition, too.  Please crosspost.   

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/fight-puppy-killing-soldiers

Watch the video or read this:  One U.S. soldier films, while another holds the puppy by the scruff of the neck, talking about how he is such a cute puppy.  The puppy is very young, black and white, a butterball, not making a sound.  You can hear a dog barking in the background, which I assume is a distraught mom.  The soldier then throws the puppy over the cliff.  The puppy yelps continually as he flies through the air and is silent after the thump as he hits the ground.  All of this is shown and heard on the video.  With video evidence, there is no denying this occurrence or the identify of the soldiers involved.

Video: http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/43462/9fb16ab3/us_soldaat_gooit_puppy.html
 
They still need more signatures. Without public outcry nothing much will be done. You don't have to watch the video but please just take a second to do the follwoing 2 simple things:

1.    Sign the petition:  http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/fight-puppy-killing-soldiers you don't have to take the time to comment, just fill out the "sign" info so that your vote can be counted

2.    E-mail Major General Robert E. Milstead, Jr., Director, Public Affairs at <robert.milstead@usmc.mil> and let him know that this action must not be tolerated by soldiers who represent our country, that animal cruelty laws exist, etc.  Just a short 3 sentence e-mail will do.
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: hOrZa on March 10, 2008, 20:34:04 PM
I been informed elsewere that this is fake, and I really hope it is because its very disturbing.




Edit:: Looked at the hoax site again and its so far been unable to confirm or deny its a hoax, (I hope so) but the US Marine Corp are mad as hatters over it and are investigating.
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 10, 2008, 20:41:22 PM
I was hoping so too but I've seen another video where they shot a dog that wasn't doing anything and for what??  After seeing that clip, I'm more inclined to think these sicko's would do this to a puppy  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: blackcat on March 10, 2008, 20:41:51 PM
sent the military a stroppy email  >:(
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: hOrZa on March 10, 2008, 20:42:44 PM
sent the military a stroppy email  >:(


Which Military? there US you know
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: blackcat on March 10, 2008, 20:43:15 PM
derrrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 10, 2008, 20:45:10 PM
Here's the other video I was referring to if anyone wants to view it  >:(  >:(  >:(

http://my.break.com/content/view.aspx?ContentID=465018

Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: hOrZa on March 10, 2008, 20:46:17 PM
What I meant was do you think the US Military cares....
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 10, 2008, 20:47:53 PM
Edit:: Looked at the hoax site again and its so far been unable to confirm or deny its a hoax, (I hope so) but the US Marine Corp are mad as hatters over it and are investigating.

On the same site, being smart  :censored: , someone has made another clip saying something like "Superman saves the puppy", and it's been animated with Superman in it  >:(  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: blackcat on March 10, 2008, 20:48:02 PM
true, but public opinion can be swayed and that can get results. I worded it very carefully and with due respect for his rank (having been a serving soldier at one stage of my career) and have included the link which shows clearly the identity of the offending soldiers.
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 10, 2008, 20:49:34 PM
and have included the link which shows clearly the identity of the offending soldiers.

I've got all the info on this soldier if you need it  ;)
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: blackcat on March 10, 2008, 20:50:24 PM
ooooo Dawn, very good indeed!!!  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 10, 2008, 20:51:36 PM
I aim to please, I'll pm it to you now  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: blackcat on March 10, 2008, 20:52:04 PM
ta ;D
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: blackcat on March 10, 2008, 20:57:51 PM
done >:(
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 10, 2008, 21:01:34 PM
I think they will be getting inundated with emails from disgusted peeps so some good has to come out of it  ;)
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Peti
Post by: Den on March 10, 2008, 21:13:34 PM
I've not been able to work out if its real or not.

The Marine's website got a TON of nasty messages last week - so much that it ended up "You must be signed in the access this"
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Petition
Post by: Christine (Blip) on March 10, 2008, 21:14:13 PM
Could we make clear in the title that this, genuine or hoax, refers to US Marines please?

 :thanks:
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 10, 2008, 23:21:16 PM
In trying to get info, I've found a few more sickening things but with the Peruvian Army.........I really wish I hadn't looked  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Mark on March 11, 2008, 08:34:31 AM
I don't think they are hoaxes Dawn - the are just trying to squirm out of it. Sick  :censored: - I just wish they could be thrown of a cliff as punishment  >:(
Title: Re: They call themselves Marines, scum is more appropriate! Please sign the Peti
Post by: Mark on March 11, 2008, 08:37:46 AM
with due respect for his rank

Respect and rank are 2 of the things this sicko should be stripped of  >:(
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Mark on March 11, 2008, 08:39:30 AM
Does anyone have any contacts for dog charities to forward the petition to? - These "people" need to pay for their actions.

This is a joke. The perpetrator's sister is complaining that he is getting death threats which makes a puppies life more important than a human's  >:( stupid b  :censored: h
http://heraldnet.com/article/20080305/NEWS01/303268761/-1/news01


Marine Corps press release
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/0/7F00CEF1D09E9EBA852574020061B983?opendocument

It was on CNN News
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/podcasts/nancygrace/site/2008/03/10/ng.cross.exam.03.10.cnn
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on March 11, 2008, 09:41:33 AM
 >:( >:( disgusting .... I hope it's a hoax but there is a part of me that thinks it probably isn't!
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 11, 2008, 11:20:13 AM
Does anyone have any contacts for dog charities to forward the petition to? - These "people" need to pay for their actions.


I don't think they'll get away with it somehow, the AR's and other groups have done a good job of ciruculating it and by people's responses, they will have to act.

This is a joke. The perpetrator's sister is complaining that he is getting death threats which makes a puppies life more important than a human's  >:( stupid b  :censored: h
http://heraldnet.com/article/20080305/NEWS01/303268761/-1/news01

My heart bleeds for them, if that was a member of my family, I'd have no sympathy and I hope they get what's coming to them  >:(  >:(

It was on CNN News
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/podcasts/nancygrace/site/2008/03/10/ng.cross.exam.03.10.cnn

I think this has been removed.
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 11, 2008, 11:22:38 AM
I'm just wondering whether something could be done about how they train the Peruvian Army, they are serious sicko's but not sure how  :tired:
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: hOrZa on March 11, 2008, 11:22:46 AM
I in no way condone this but when the military takes a person then turns them in soldiers compassion is something that is left out, no room for compassion in killers


Mark your marines link is either broken, down or swamped as can't get it
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 11, 2008, 11:30:44 AM
I in no way condone this but when the military takes a person then turns them in soldiers compassion is something that is left out, no room for compassion in killers

You only have to look on links on the internet to see how prisioners of war are treated  >:(  >:(  I'm not blinkered as to what goes on in the world, but I found some pretty upsetting stuff last night and it makes you wonder, do you really want these guys protecting our countries  >:(
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Mark on March 11, 2008, 11:53:11 AM

It was on CNN News
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/podcasts/nancygrace/site/2008/03/10/ng.cross.exam.03.10.cnn

I think this has been removed.
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I just tried it and it worked  :Crazy:
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Mark on March 11, 2008, 11:54:07 AM

Mark your marines link is either broken, down or swamped as can't get it

I can't remember where I found it - maybe they have taken it down - this is all over the media now.
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Mark on March 11, 2008, 11:55:34 AM
I in no way condone this but when the military takes a person then turns them in soldiers compassion is something that is left out, no room for compassion in killers


I read one site that said that they often raise puppies from birth and a test of their "manliness" is that they break the puppies necks the night before they graduate  >:(
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 11, 2008, 11:57:28 AM

It was on CNN News
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/podcasts/nancygrace/site/2008/03/10/ng.cross.exam.03.10.cnn

I think this has been removed.


I just tried it and it worked  :Crazy:

Just a black screen to me  :-:
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 11, 2008, 11:58:36 AM
I read one site that said that they often raise puppies from birth and a test of their "manliness" is that they break the puppies necks the night before they graduate  >:(

I saw that as well Mark, I think they wait until they are about 3 months old.  One of them had posted it on his blog as well  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn F on March 11, 2008, 11:59:05 AM
doesn't really tie in the the marines at crufts with the two they got back from Afganistan or Iraq does it - poor little pup
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 11, 2008, 12:01:46 PM
doesn't really tie in the the marines at crufts with the two they got back from Afganistan or Iraq does it - poor little pup

It only take one sick  :censored: to give them all a bad name.  I read the story on the ones at Crufts as I had an email about them, there are some caring guys out there, they just need to get rid of the bad apples.
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Mark on March 11, 2008, 12:02:33 PM

It was on CNN News
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/podcasts/nancygrace/site/2008/03/10/ng.cross.exam.03.10.cnn

I think this has been removed.


I just tried it and it worked  :Crazy:

Just a black screen to me  :-:

I think you have to wait for it to load - it does work.
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn F on March 11, 2008, 12:03:11 PM
that's the saddest thing, I think the they are having a tougher time than any of us know and don't even get paid properly  but one idiot makes them all look bad
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: hOrZa on March 11, 2008, 12:05:11 PM
that's the saddest thing, I think the they are having a tougher time than any of us know and don't even get paid properly  but one idiot makes them all look bad

And often suffer PTST after they return to be just turned out by the military to fend for themselves
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Mark on March 11, 2008, 12:06:48 PM
doesn't really tie in the the marines at crufts with the two they got back from Afganistan or Iraq does it - poor little pup

It only take one sick  :censored: to give them all a bad name.  I read the story on the ones at Crufts as I had an email about them, there are some caring guys out there, they just need to get rid of the bad apples.

There was also the story about the marine who rescued a dog caught in razor wire in Iraq who spent $10,000 on treatment and adopted afterwards. I Do think we have to be careful about tarring everyone with the same brush. I am very concerned about the initiation things though. They say that senior officers are aware of it but would deny it.
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 11, 2008, 12:09:39 PM
I think you have to wait for it to load - it does work.

It worked, I must be an impatient princess  :innocent:
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: hOrZa on March 11, 2008, 12:10:46 PM
not to disturb anyone but have you seen the video for survival training where they have to kill the chicken?
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 11, 2008, 12:15:37 PM
not to disturb anyone but have you seen the video for survival training where they have to kill the chicken?

I've not seen that one.  Why do they have to kill anything though when it comes to their training.  I know it will probably rule out the man from the boys but there must be other alternatives.  The Peruvian army string up live dogs and slash at them, I really think the guys that are capable of doing this are very warped in their mind and I expect they would also be trigger happy  >:(  >:(  My son is after joining the army and I would hope if he was told he had to do some of the initiation things that have been mentioned on here, that he would refuse.
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: hOrZa on March 11, 2008, 12:52:09 PM
not to disturb anyone but have you seen the video for survival training where they have to kill the chicken?

I've not seen that one.  Why do they have to kill anything though when it comes to their training.  I know it will probably rule out the man from the boys but there must be other alternatives.  The Peruvian army string up live dogs and slash at them, I really think the guys that are capable of doing this are very warped in their mind and I expect they would also be trigger happy  >:(  >:(  My son is after joining the army and I would hope if he was told he had to do some of the initiation things that have been mentioned on here, that he would refuse.

its all part of the conditioning, obey without question, essentially brain washing and unfortunately it works but they would make poor soldiers otherwise
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Yvonne on March 11, 2008, 12:58:55 PM
I have signed it - almost 10,000 signatures when I looked

Does anybody know the fate of this poor puppy??
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Mark on March 11, 2008, 13:12:06 PM
I hope for its sake it died instantly as it landed  :(
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: hOrZa on March 11, 2008, 13:13:00 PM
I hope for its sake it died instantly as it landed  :(

Me too RIP
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: blackcat on March 11, 2008, 21:45:07 PM
BAD NEWS!! the email address that has been posted is not a live email address - my post has been returned to me by mailer daemon... so stick to the petition if you want a response.... >:(
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: claws n purrs on March 12, 2008, 20:57:49 PM
It may only be a few 'bad apples' that engage in atrocious behaviour like this, but that means nothing to the animals (and humans) murdered by these  :censored:

What kind of society are they trying to build when they think it's acceptable to commit such acts of appalling cruelty?  >:(

:sigh:

Dee

Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Christine (Blip) on March 12, 2008, 21:14:52 PM
I need to say, I think, that the young man who is my secular "Godson" has just passed out as a Marine in the UK.  I assert that you can be absolutely certain that he and his comrades would have no truck whatsoever with atrocities like this.  Nor, of course, are they asked to commit them.

This is not to open an argument about warfare, please.  I wish that all our fellow human beings were willing to live at peace together.  With our species, though, it ain't going to happen.

 :hug:
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: blackcat on June 12, 2008, 17:37:25 PM
Great news!!!  :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: Read in the Evening Standard that these two worthless apologies for human beings are being drummed out of their corps - dishonourable discharge step right up :wow:
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Mark on June 12, 2008, 17:46:13 PM
Great news  ;D

As I cynically thought they would let the story die  :(
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on June 12, 2008, 17:57:30 PM
Maybe someone will get hold of them by the scruff of the neck and throw them over a cliff .....  :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on June 12, 2008, 18:37:18 PM
Maybe someone will get hold of them by the scruff of the heck and throw them over a cliff .....  :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

I believe what goes round comes round and this scum will get pay back ten fold  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: They call themselves US Marines, scum is more appropriate! Petition to sign
Post by: Dawn F on June 13, 2008, 10:43:46 AM
excellent news, like Mark I thought it would all go away