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Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: Peardrop on December 05, 2011, 18:14:53 PM
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He just seems to be not interested in things any more. He is only picking at his food and is just lying on a chair by the radiator. I took him to the vet last Friday as he had the sniffs so she gave him an antibiotic/ steroid injection but the last few days he just seems to be on another planet.
Is it the end of his life coming or something else?
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what did your vet say, is there anything actually wrong or you just have a bad feeling?
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He didn't say anything but he wants me to bring Ping back this week. His chest was clear and he listened to his heart. I just feel that he has lost his get up and go.
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sending some :hug: for you and Ping x
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Can't offer any advice ... but just hope Ping is feeling the cold and feeling a bit under the weather with his sniffle. Sending lots of good wishes to you both :hug: :hug: :hug:
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:hug: Hope Ping is feeling better soon.
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Anti biotics can make them feel a bit down for first couple of days and hope he picks up :hug: :hug:
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Thank you all, only other cat (animal) lovers can appreciated how it feels when one of out furry family members is poorly.
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Sorry to hear Ping is a wee bit off colour, remember with Old age, Furbabies do have off days too :sick:
as long as vet gave Ping a clean bill of health and has no concerns, Ping should come round to normal..
And If you do have any concern's :scared: always Remember to ask the vet the question's you want answer's too ;)
Sending ton's of healing vibes Ping's way and hoping the Anti biotics kick in soon :hug: :hug: :hug:
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I'm not on here much since my 2 cats passed, but I did nurse 2 oldies very intensively.
How is Ping? I would be a bit concerned that he's not eating if he was given a steroid, as those tend to make them eat. Perhaps the vet could run some blood tests? They are very useful especially with oldies. Try not to worry - there's an awful lot that you can do for oldies, even if they aren't that well.
Hope he's soon feeling better
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I am sorry to hear that Ping is not himself My Oscar is on antibiotics for an abcess at the moment and is not his usual self (aged 7)
My last 2 cats lived to be very old and I uncerstand how you can worry Do go back to the vet if you feel something is not right They are there to help so keep asking until yopu get an answer. :Luv: Hope he improves soon
Luv Peggy and Oscar
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How is Ping doing today?
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He seems to have 'changed' since he had his booster injection on the 14th of November. They said at the time that he was very good for his age.
Perhaps I am being over sensitive but he just doesn't seem to be the same any more. I took him to the vet last week because he had the sneezes that seems to have gone since the vet game him antibiotics.
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Poor Ping, I hope that he starts to seem a bit brighter soon probably he's got a bit down after having a cold. Sending some postive cheery cuddles over :hug:
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This is going to sound daft, but my oldie (Pursley, 15) has "down " phases where she can barely move off the bed and eats next to nothing for days. The latest one followed her annual booster, which I expected, but the vet checked her thoroughly then and she was fine if a little arthritic in the back end, but the episode prior to that was unexplained - similar to Ping.
I was heating through chicken soup - the Covent Garden stuff, and thought she might like a drop. She did. She had a good few spoons full before starting a face wash, which was something else she had been neglecting.
Now I know that onion powder and garlic is bad for cats, and of course there will be a trace of these in the soup, but she was eating so little of her own food it was becoming a case of getting anything inside her before she made herself ill, and she immediately seemed happier.
The power of cooked chicken is well documented in this household and now chicken soup has been added to the list of miracle cure-alls because this seemed to bring her round like nothing else could. May be worth a try if you have a can of soup in the cupboard, or whizz a bit of cooked chicken into a puree for him?
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Perhaps there will be something in the bloods tomorrow.
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Perhaps there will be something in the bloods tomorrow.
Fingers crossed. :(
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Well his blood results are OK but his heart rate is low compared to what it should be. :(
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what does the vet suggest?
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what does the vet suggest?
Nothing really she said that if it gets worse and affects his breathing they will treat it. I think it is a case of he is getting old. So he has to take things easy and no climbing stairs. :'(
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sending him lots of cuddles :hug: :hug: :hug:
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well at least there is nothing serious, I suppose we all slow down a bit in the end :hug:
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sending him lots of cuddles :hug: :hug: :hug:
:hug: Thank you.
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well at least there is nothing serious, I suppose we all slow down a bit in the end :hug:
I get very anxious over my two cats and take tablets to help me feel better. Since Ping has been off colour I have had to increase them. I am a very laid back extrovert with a great sense of humour but when it comes to my cats welfare................ :Crazy:
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you are in good company here, I think we all worry about our pets more than ourselves :hug: :hug:
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you are in good company here, I think we all worry about our pets more than ourselves :hug: :hug:
When my dog died of bone cancer I didn't go out for a month. :'(
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aww how terrible, that must have been hard, such a horrible disease
we are all with you
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aww how terrible, that must have been hard, such a horrible disease
we are all with you
I wonder sometimes if us softies should have pets?
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its a cliche but the pain is the price we pay for the love, I know I'd rather not miss out on the good times to avoid the bad :hug:
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:hug: :hug: :hug:
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what does the vet suggest?
Nothing really she said that if it gets worse and affects his breathing they will treat it. I think it is a case of he is getting old. So he has to take things easy and no climbing stairs. :'(
Oh dear ... sounds like Ping will have to be carried upstairs to bed now then! ;). Glad nothing nasty turned up in the bloods ... and fingers crossed Ping is just suffering from a bit of SAD syndrome. :hug:
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I am glad the vet didn't find anything really nasty I nursed my last 2 cats until they were really old but the love they gave me in return was all the repayment I could ever want Ofcourse we worry that is the price of love
Carry him around, give him lots of cuddles and he will pick up when the weather improves
Take care
Peggy :hug:
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His heart rate was 110 yesterday.
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What should it be?
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What should it be?
I did read somewhere that a cats heart rate should be 120-160 beats per minute.
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If he is resting I am sure thats not too bad,
I think you should stop worrying, hard I know, and except he has moved to a new phase in his life and adjust accordingly to love him for many more years :hug: :hug:
Now where are his pictures ;D ;D
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Here is Prince Ping.
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he is :Luv2:
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Ping is gorgeous :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2: I do that both he and you are feeling better soon :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Aw, Prince Ping's a beauty! :Luv2:
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Ping is certainly a Prince and so handsome :Luv2: :Luv2:
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awwwwww :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
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What a gorgeous handsome boy!!!!!!! Gove him lots of love and cuddles from me I think Oscar would consider him a rival in the beauty stakes !
:Luv: from Peggy
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And he is a mummy's boy.
The thing is when he had his booster on the 14th of November the vet said how well he was for his age and now here we are 30 days later and he has gone down hill could it have been the booster?
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i think this something only a vet can answer tbh
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they can't make them a bit low but it normally only lasts a day or so
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OMG what a stunning boy :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2: I hope he picks up soon :hug:
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He is stunning !!!! :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: I know how you feel , i'm the same , nothing bothers me but when any of my cats are poorly , i go to pieces :-[ :shy: hugs to you and your handsome boy xxx
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He hasn't eaten much today. I had to give him a worm tablet yesterday (doctors orders) he would only take half.
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There's a palatable wormer on the market called Panacur. Order it on-line from VetUK or similar providers, much cheaper than asking the vet to do it for you and the powder doesn't seem to have any taste at all (I pop a sachet in a plate of tuna, and it always goes down well.)
You may need to dose him for three days, but it's easier than tabletting. :hug:
Fingers crossed this is just a slow phase for him. Did the vet offer a vitamin booster or anything like that to pick him up?
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A few years ago one of my cats had a really bad reaction to the leukemia part of the booster. I thought she was going to die for a couple of days afterward she was so ill. The vet was insistent that it was nothing to do with the jab. I know it was, she was perfectly well before going and then at deaths door within a couple of hours of getting home. I've never had the leukemia part of the booster for any of my cats since. If you search online there are lots of cats that have had bad reactions. So it might be something worth looking into or mentioning to the vet.
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Another point on this is that after about 10 years old they do not need a leukemia jab as they will have immunity to it.
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I know this is going a bit of topic but I've just been reading online about reactions to boosters and found out that in the USA they think it's a bad idea to inject into the scruff they inject into the leg, they also only give boosters every three years. Think I'll be asking my vet about this on my next visit.
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I know this is going a bit of topic but I've just been reading online about reactions to boosters and found out that in the USA they think it's a bad idea to inject into the scruff they inject into the leg, they also only give boosters every three years. Think I'll be asking my vet about this on my next visit.
I have never given any of mine the FeLV vaccination.
USA inject into the leg as the leg is easier to remove if a cancer develops from the incision of the injection (there is a name for this type of cancer).
I also agree with 3 yearly vac's - my vet also agree's with this too but until the license is changed in the UK they have to remain yearly :(
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It may all be connected to the boosters. Our Munchkin is always out of sorts for a while after his boosters as was our previous boy (especially when he was very old). Our Munchkin is also prone to a small lump developing on the injection site- the first time it happened I was in a right old panic that he had developed the form of cancer related to vaccinations but it proved to be just a reaction. I don't worry about it now and it generally vanishes in the course of a few weeks. I do wonder whether we overdo the booster thing but as the Munchkin does go to the local cattery occasionally I have to keep him on annual boosters.
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Michelle do you get the booster every year then or every 3 years for you cats? I'm just wondering if I asked my vet to do the boosters every three years would it be illegal for him to do that? I know that it wouldn't be acceptable for a cattery but my cats are unlikely to go to a cattery.
It just seems really crazy to put our cats through this stress and risk every year not to mention cost when they could be having it every three years. Do you have any idea if the license is likely to change here in the near future?
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We talked to our vet about this. He agrees older cats only need boosters done every three years but because current recommendations are every year your insurance wont pay out if the cat develops any illness that could be related to not having had the vaccine yearly >:(
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I'll have to have a word to my vet about this too.
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Michelle do you get the booster every year then or every 3 years for you cats? I'm just wondering if I asked my vet to do the boosters every three years would it be illegal for him to do that? I know that it wouldn't be acceptable for a cattery but my cats are unlikely to go to a cattery.
It just seems really crazy to put our cats through this stress and risk every year not to mention cost when they could be having it every three years. Do you have any idea if the license is likely to change here in the near future?
I stretch mine to about 15/16 months inbetween.
You could pretty much have them done when you want them I would have thought but you wouldn't be covered for catteries.
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I had a vet that refused to give them more than 6 weeks late and said I would have to start all over again.
He said that was the manufactorers recommendation!
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My vet will allow just three months grace after the 12 months is up. After that he says we need to start with the preliminary followed two weeks later by the secondary. My friend in California gets her cats vaccinated three yearly - this is now the norm in the USA, but she also has to combine a rabies jab, so maybe it's a matter of priorities?
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It does annoy me when vets are more concerned with sticking with the manufacturer's advise than current guidelines. The WSAVA guidelines headed up by Professor Michael Day (based at Bristol University) state that vaccines should be given every three years and also not in the scruff but in the flank. Link to guidelines below:
http://www.wsava.org/PDF/Misc/VaccinationGuidelines2010.pdf (http://www.wsava.org/PDF/Misc/VaccinationGuidelines2010.pdf)
Also, if anyone is interested, one of the co-authors Ronald Schulz from the University of Wisconsin-Madison can be seen talking about vaccines and immunology here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Xd5ghnlJ4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Xd5ghnlJ4&feature=related)
Cattery wise - the FAB guidelines say that as long as a cat has had their initial course, plus first booster, it doesn't matter how many years have lapsed, they only need a booster to be boarded.
http://www.fabcats.org/catteries/infosheets/vaccination_catteries.pdf (http://www.fabcats.org/catteries/infosheets/vaccination_catteries.pdf)
My vet is happy to give vaccines every three years if the owner asks and notes on the records that the owner consents to override manufacturer's guidelines. He is also happy not to give vaccines in the scruff. They also vaccinate on the basis of a full risk assessment based on the individual cat's lifestyle. That's what all vets should legally be doing. This is one of my soap box topics as I have a VAS cat (vaccine associated fibrosarcoma). I am lucky he is still with me. His tumour was caused as a result of his 2005 FeLV vaccine. He underwent chemotherapy, surgery and further chemotherapy but had a recurrence in July 2009 and another in January 2011. His anatomy is completely abnormal and I'm constantly paranoid about what is scar tissue and what may be another recurrence.
(http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww282/Suzy-sooz/Puddy%20Cats/Guinness2dayspostopc.jpg)
With regard to your siamese boy, all reactions to vaccines and any other medications come to that should be reported to the VMD. It can be reported by vets, owners or both and the link is below. Best wishes for you boy xx.
http://www.vmd.defra.gov.uk/adversereactionreporting/ (http://www.vmd.defra.gov.uk/adversereactionreporting/)
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Thank you Wiggins for all the info ;D ;D
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Yes thanks Wiggins. I wish I'd known about the defra website when my cat had a reaction to the booster. I know the vet wouldn't have reported it, as at the time he was insistent it was nothing to do with the jab. Although a couple of years later talking to another vet at the same practice she admitted that she didn't give her own cat the Felv booster because it can cause bad reactions in some cats.
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Ping is being really picky over his food, I am giving him all sorts of things and he only eats bits of them :'(
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Is Ping a fish eater? If he is it might be worth trying him with some cods roe (John West do little tins about £1.50'ish).
It might be the thing to get him eating again .... something nice and stinky ;)
As cats get older they their sense of smell goes and if he has a bit of a cold this will also affect his sense of smell .... by giving him something stinky it will prompt him to eat. :hug:
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I have found sardines are good for picky eaters Probably best in olive oil though I had a cat years ago who preferred them in tomato
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Ping was put on a drip at the vets yesterday as he was dehydrated, because of his heart failure they aspirated 200mls of fluid from around his lungs which was affecting his breathing. The vet said that this would fill up again due to his heart. It was decided that he should go to Rainbow Bridge.................I am devastated.
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Oh Peardrop I am devasted to hear this and just so very sad. You must be feeling so bad and we are all here for you :hug: :hug: :hug:
RIP Ping, you are so handsome, play hard on the Bridge
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I am so very sorry Peardrop :hug: :hug: :hug:
RIP Ping
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Oh, this is awful, I'm so sorry.
RIP, Ping. Safe and sound at the Bridge by now. :hug: :hug: :hug:
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So very sorry to hear this sad news. :hug:to you,
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sorry to hear about poor Ping :hug: x
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I'm So Sorry
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Play Hard at the Bridge Ping, Hamish, Misty and Olivia will keep you right
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Aw, that's so sad Peardrop, but he was a good age and no doubt had a wonderful life with you.
We all know what you're going through, I hope that helps a little.
RIP handsome boy.
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:hug: :hug: oh i'm sorry to hear your news :'( :'(
Goodnight, God Bless Ping xxx :'(
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I am so so sorry to hear the sad news :hug: :hug:
RIP Ping
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I am so sorry to hear about Ping :hug: :hug: :hug:
Smartie will probably see you up there , he has only been there 18 days himself .
RIP Ping
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Thank you all, it is so hard I keep thinking about everything he use to do (he was a house cat and even use to sleep under my duvet in the winter). I am having him privately cremated and his ashes returned to me to keep.
Why do we put ourselves through this pain?
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Because we love them so much and they return our love unconditionally :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Because we love them so much and they return our love unconditionally :hug: :hug: :hug:
But the pain is so terrible.
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It is, but the pain passes eventually, while the love stays with us.
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I'm so sorry :hug: :hug:
RIP Ping xx
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Why do we put ourselves through this pain?
Because the joy brought by sharing our lives with these little personalities outweighs the pain by far. It's just difficult to remember that when the pain is so raw. :care:
Rest Easy, Ping. Loved always.
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Thank you all, it is so hard I keep thinking about everything he use to do (he was a house cat and even use to sleep under my duvet in the winter). I am having him privately cremated and his ashes returned to me to keep.
Why do we put ourselves through this pain?
I think it is lovely to have his ashes home :hug: :hug: it brings alot of unexpected comfort x
I did with my Tazi and got a lovely memorial statue (www.catpottery.co.uk <--- i'm not on commission with these people, really I'm not! but, oh my! the finished product more than fulfilled my expectations!) :Luv2:
As for the pain - I too never felt pain or loss like it :'( but the memories and happy times make me honoured to have had my boy and you should feel a proud mammy that you gave Ping his hearts desire, a wonderful happy home xx big hugs to you at this sad time :hug: xx
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Oh Peardrop I'm so so sorry to hear the sad news about Ping please accept my sincere condolences. There are no words that any of us that can say at the mment that will take away the heartache but in time I'm sure you will be able to think about your handsome boy and remeber him with a smile. 17½ is a fab age for a siamese and that is testament to the love and care he received from you.
Even though your boy is no longer with you there will always be a Ping shaped paw print on your heart.
RIP Ping ... play hard at bridge little man.
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I'm so sorry to hear about Ping :hug:
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Thank you all for your kind words. I think once the holiday period is over it will really hit me (we didn't have Christmas dinner until Boxing Day and it was very low key). My son sent off for two big photo canvases of Ping which arrived Thursday :(
I am scared they will loose his ashes.
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I am so sorry to hear this, I'm sure you have a lifetime of wonderful memories which will eventually make this sadness fade into the background :hug: :hug:
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Thank you all only animal lovers can understand what I am going through.
Coco my other Siamese is running around all the time calling for Ping this is a big shock for her as well as she has never been a only cat.
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So very sorry to hear this :'( RIP little one and hugs to you Peardrop xxxxxxxx
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RIP Ping
Aww Peardrop, it's so hard. My Smudge only went to the Bridge on the 15th of December. Us cat lovers know what you are going through. Just grieve as and when you need, don't bottle it up. I've only registered tonight on this site and am already feeling the support. Hugs, you were a fabulous Mammy to Ping. My cat was 16 and a half, they've had a long and happy life, we've done our very best for them XX
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Coco is still calling for Ping :( she is also sleeping a lot more than she use to.
Still waiting for Pings ashes. :'(
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:'( aww bless Coco, it so hard & confusing for them isnt it? :(
I have just got a new cat for Nuggie who found himself an only cat and he didnt cope very well at all.
You may find you feel a little more at peace once you have Pings ashes :'( :hug:
It helps me (I couldnt scatter them or anything) It gave me a feeling of Tazi being "home" again xx
Big Hugs to you at such a hard time x
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It kind of feels better when they are home again, but it also brings it all back again :'(
Time is the only Healer :hug:
My Hamish, Misty and Olivia are in their own Cat Caskets, sitting on the living room windowsill looking out
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Ahhh poor CoCo .... you need to keep a close eye on her (as if I need to tell you that) but as she's a siamese she may well pine for her partner. Siameses are such sensative souls :(
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Sorry to read about Ping. :hug:
Siamese do pine more than other cats, and I know its a bit soon, but have you thought of adopting?
It might help you both, I know it helped me and my cat (now RIP) when it happened to us some years ago.
Tigger walked around the house for weeks calling for Sooty, and a new younger cat helped take her mind off it.
I felt guilty at the time, but I couldn't stand to see Tigger so upset.
Look at it like this - you are not being disloyal to Ping, you are helping another cat, which in turn will help you and CoCo
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Ping is home again. I was so afraid they would loose his ashes. They are in a lovely terracotta pot with his name on the front all tastefully done. We have put them in a safe place (I hope) and put two Royal Crown Derby cat ornaments next to him, in front I have put his special magnetic collar I bought for him to help his joints.
I cried when I fetched him from the vet and when I got home. Each night I hold the pot hug it kiss the lid and say goodnight I do the same in the morning when I get up. He is still mummies boy even now.
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Oh Pearddop.
I cried for you when I read your post, having Pings ashes home will hurt now, it brings the pain back, but will help you in time.
I probably shouldn't mention it on a cats rescue site, but do you know the Blue Cross have a very good pet bereavement counselling service?
I used them when my Charlie went, and they were brilliant.
Sending supportive thoughts, :hug: :hug: :hug: