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Cat General => General Cat Chat => Topic started by: CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls on May 30, 2009, 13:46:19 PM
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She has given birth to a kitten but its dead..i woke up with her under my legs and looked, i dont know how long its been there, there is no movement from it and its still inn the sac. she has been licking it but nothing :scared:
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Ok so had a call back...she's coming here ;D
Apparently she was lost and has been handed to this lady, which dont sound likely for the area but :shy:
She says she's a really nice cat, is ok with her dog and child just she cant afford to keep her :shy:
So Im going to pick her up at 6 tonight, and hope for the best from my lot. Im going to phone CP later to have her put on the list just incase :)
Wish us luck
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Well done CC thats one little puss that wont be walking the streets tonight, does sound a bit odd tho ,why was the cat handed in to her??
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I dont really know BL, she just said the cat had been found in an area over 10 miles away, maybe a friend passed her onto this woman :-:
I suppose I will find out more when I go round.
The area she is being kept at atm is not good for animals so Im glad she's coming here :)
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Aww well done CC, hope it all goes well.
Strange that the lady knows her age though!
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Yes I just thought that too Pav, unless she is making an estemate :-: And she says that the cat gets on with her dog :shify: Maybe the cats been passed on from a friend and she now realises she cant keep her. I dont know better off out anyways :shy:
Im just praying and hoping that she is not pregnant, but then again she will be in good hands if she is :)
Im not expecting to get much info on this cat as the woman said she has had her for only 2 weeks, not long enough to know if the little one has been spayed :scared:
My cat proofing is going up tomorrow tho so all should be ok if not, if she manages to escape I can blame Roz :rofl: sorry Roz :evillaugh:
Im getting worried now as to the amount of info Im going to get, as in not much at all :scared:
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Well done CC :hug: - are you going to see if she is chipped? - unlikely I know but maybe worth a try.
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Mark to tell the truth I think she was the girls cat by the things that have came with her....she has a nice collar on, not one you would buy for a stray and also a little house which would of at least been £20. Also some frontline and something from the vets kinda like a pre-biotic.
Something else...she is pregnant :tired: The girl said she was skinny when she came but now she seems to be getting fatter. I have just felt her nipples and by the looks of her she is going to have kittens :scared:
Im so glad to be out of that house, it smelt like they had not opened a window for years :sick:
Just looked and yes...I think Im going to be having kittens too, never been through this before :scared:
She's a lovely little calico, just like Lyla but short haired. She is having a good mouch about and doesnt seem phased at all :-: She has had a hiss at my others but they didnt hiss back so thats a good thing.
Just thought oh no kittens, I know I said I wanted one but this is taking the :censored: :naughty:
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Yes I have heard about strays before :evillaugh:
One woman said she had a stray with a bad eye and she wanted it back after the vet had sorted it :evillaugh:
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My kids have named her Rosie already :shy:
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Well CC you wanted a kitten and now your getting your wish :evillaugh: seriously tho well done for taking this little one and im sure with your help she will blossom and be safe :hug:
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what's that saying about being careful what you wish for :rofl:
but a great compromise - one adult unwanted cat and kittens too - well done you
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She is having a good hiss at Oliver MMP, he just looks a bit scared. I hope my cats dont fight with her :scared:
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If your keeping her it would be best for her to be in one room as a nursery, this can be her own space so she can be relaxed when kittens are ready to come and they can be safe, no moving into dodgy spaces!
A vet check asap also wise, an ultrasound will give an idea how long to go.
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Poor little Rosie but well done to you. :hug:
Mary
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Yes I just thought that too Pav, unless she is making an estimate :-:
Yes, its just when they do the 1/2 thing for a stray it makes you think :-: Estimate is between 1-2, but the most important is that Rosie
is safe now thanks to you. :) :hug:
You can always send Lyla to live with us if you want to keep the kittens ;) ;D
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Well done and :welcome: :R: :O: :S: :I: :E:
Yes I remember in a previous thread you mentioned that you had "kitten fever"
It is a great place in your wardrobe - put in a big box with a nice blanket and have the door partially closed a great place for kittening and bringing up kitties.
Bet you are excited now.
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Excellent name!
Gordon Bennett CC. Waddya gonna do with kitties then? My fave babe ever was a little calico :Luv: Wound me round her paw for over 20 years. Watch out ;)
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I already have a little calico but she is more Harrys than mine :evillaugh:
Hum yeah I know I said I wanted A kitten but this :shocked:
Im glad really as the part of town she was in she could of ended up dead if taken by someone else :( and the house was rank too :sick:
I will take her to vets on Monday when I take Harry. I dont think she is going to pop anytime soon but you can see she is going to sometime.
She's a sweet little thing, doesnt mind the kids just the cats but Im sure that can be sorted out :)
Well thats it really, Im just glad she's safe now.
I think the kittens will be going to a rescue once old enough, I hope so anyway :naughty:
I know my mum has always wanted a calico :evillaugh:
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I know my mum has always wanted a calico :evillaugh:
:scared: :faint:
At this rate I will be kicking the boys out of their rooms for the extra space! :evillaugh:
As you know I have my own new lodger! :sneaky:
Good on you though CC, have to say your brave cos the thought of the birth etc I think is very scary! :scared:
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Well she was not advertised as pregnant, I only got told that once at the house. I couldnt leave her there it was a :censored: hole :shy:
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[quote author=Bazsmum
the thought of the birth etc I think is very scary! :scared:
My sentiments exactly, im playing the waiting game with this little one ive taken in and its so scary,i just hope im here when she has the kittens :scared:
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Well Rosie is doing good this morning, she's having something to eat and being a bit growly. My cats are being ok with her- they are trying to check her out but she's just growling :evillaugh: They haven't tried to attack her so thats a really good thing, I well pleased with my lot :Luv2:
The cat proofing is going up today, so I will see if it keeps my lot in and then maybe Rosie can have a wander in the garden later on.
She's come at the best time really as I cant stand not to have the back door open, not in this heat :faint:
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Poor baby. Well done for taking her on. Looks like your wish for kittens is going to come all too true :Crazy:
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She has just met the rabbit... hissing and growling her head off. It doesn't matter tho cos the rabbit dont understand :evillaugh:
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Brilliant Mark!! :rofl:
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DITTO :pic: :print: :box:
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HAHA :evillaugh:
Yes I will have to get some batteries tomorrow, still havent got any of Oliver on yet so will do tomorrow. :)
She's a really strange shape, I keep looking at her thinking maybe she is just strange but then I see the nipples :scared:
Mark she looks like a skinny Alice :) She has real big ears too :Luv2: She's just a doll ;D
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Never mind batteries, how about a rocket??? :naughty: :rofl:
Glad she is okay and your lot are fine with her....hope the cat proofing is easy for OH to install, for some reason Laurel and Hardy come to mind when I think of it being erected! :evillaugh:
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hope the cat proofing is easy for OH to install, for some reason Laurel and Hardy come to mind when I think of it being erected! :evillaugh:
LOL! :rofl:
Well done CC, wonder when she will have the kittens? :)
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Cat proofing is up....just need someone to try it out :sneaky:
I dont know Gillian, Im going to take her to vets with me tomorrow so hopefully I will know more then :)
I dont really want to ask this but feel I have to, its confusing me.....her vagina is swollen :-: what could this be, is this normal for a pregnant cat?
Im glad I got her really, now her and her kittens will be safe and grow up in a cat mad home :) Of course I mean till the kittens are 12 weeks old :naughty: oh God :rofl:
I really hope I can part with them, I couldn't with my rabbits :shify:
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Just to point out Rosie will always have a home here :) My cats are being very good with her, Im proud of them :Luv2:
I always said I wanted more cats once the garden is sorted :rofl:
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Ahhh well done CC on giving Rosie a home. Good luck with the "kittening" .... BTW ... where's the pics??
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No batteries for the camera, Sam - we'v already harassed CC for them! ;)
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No batteries for the camera, Sam - we'v already harassed CC for them! ;)
Oh I thought it was the USB was missing! :evillaugh:
http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php/topic,24955.0.html :naughty:
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No pics as of yet, later tonight I think :)
Just want to say she is doing really good, been out sunning in the back garden, explored all of the house ect Its like she has always been here, she is not fussed at all :shocked:
Still lots of hissing at my others but they are scared of her so been really good and leaving her alone, that can be cured with time Im sure :)
Going to vets today to see how far on she is, her nipples are big and the pregnancy is noticeable :scared: She has made herself at home on the top bunk of the kids bed, eating and using the litter tray good :)
I really dont know how she has been mated as she seems to hate/ be scared of other cats :Crazy:
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She has also been renamed.....Saffron, Saffi for short :) You just know the kittens are going to get herbie names :evillaugh:
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Cant wait to see the pics, and even better we are getting some purrs kittens xx
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She has also been renamed.....Saffron, Saffi for short :) You just know the kittens are going to get herbie names :evillaugh:
Lovely name! :Luv: What about spicey names? :evillaugh: :hug:
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What like Ginger, Curry, Pepper and Salty :shify: :shify:
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Change the title cc, as peeps will still be calling her Rosie! ;)
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She has also been renamed.....Saffron, Saffi for short :) You just know the kittens are going to get herbie names :evillaugh:
Hehe - my brain didn't process that properly and immediately thought of the little VW Beetle car! How's she doing? And where are the pictures? ;)
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What like Ginger, Curry, Pepper and Salty :shify: :shify:
:rofl: :rofl: bit downmarket though, Gill :P
what about Fenugreek, Cardamom, Tumeric and Tamarind
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I know, I know useless without pics...I have been ill :tired: but will get some tonight, even if I have to use my phone :shify:
Going to vets today as Harry is in, Ive been trying to take him to the vets since last Wed but he's not been coming back home in time :tired:
So will update once I get back ;D
PS Saffi is fine, Ive just caught her all rolled up in my duvet like a sausage roll :evillaugh:
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Ok updated title :)
For the kitten names I was thinking like Basil, herbie etc..... but once they come out they prob wont look like those names :evillaugh: I always choose human names for my cats anyways :)
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I know, I know useless without pics...I have been ill :tired: but will get some tonight, even if I have to use my phone :shify:
I take all my pics on my mobile phone, go on you know we would love to see them x
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Saffron???
My Saffron wanders around but she can't have crossed the Channel, no way!!!
It's the best of names!!!
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She just suits Saffron, so that be her name ;)
OK back from vets...vet recons she's only about 9 months and that this is her first litter and that Im going to be a furry grandmother in about 2 weeks :shocked: :scared:
She is in good health overall but I have to get her wormed :)
Harry yoweled all the way there and all the way back, now he is sulking :evillaugh: :innocent:
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We like "herb" names in our house too. All the tabbies or tabby tortis that have lived here have had a herb name. Parsley, Sage and Rosellas furbabe Noni. ;)
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We like "herb" names in our house too. All the tabbies or tabby tortis that have lived here have had a herb name. Parsley, Sage and Rosellas furbabe Noni. ;)
Right, It had to be me but "Noni" ? :-: :shy:
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Noni is indeed a herb:
http://www.crazyfortea.com/noniherb.html (http://www.crazyfortea.com/noniherb.html)
;)
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She just suits Saffron, so that be her name ;)
OK back from vets...vet recons she's only about 9 months and that this is her first litter and that Im going to be a furry grandmother in about 2 weeks :shocked: :scared:
So your vet reckons 9 MONTHS :evillaugh: i THOUGHT YOU HAD A LITTLE PUSSY CAT :doh:
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Noni is indeed a herb:
http://www.crazyfortea.com/noniherb.html (http://www.crazyfortea.com/noniherb.html)
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See you learn something new on this site all the time! :wow: I thought it was a song "Hey Noni, Noni" :evillaugh:
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Bonnie...I think that last post got a bit mixed up, it has me somewhat confused :-:
Yes vet thinks Saffi is only 9 months old, and Im going to be inundated with Tortie madness soon enough :Crazy:
Right I have pics on my phone...just got to figure out what to do with them :evillaugh:
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Right I have pics on my phone...just got to figure out what to do with them :evillaugh:
You put em on here silly! :naughty: :rofl:
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Right I have pics on my phone...just got to figure out what to do with them :evillaugh:
Email them to yourself from your phone to your PC, or use infrared or bluetooth or a USB. xxxx
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Bonnie...I think that last post got a bit mixed up, it has me somewhat confused :-:
Yes vet thinks Saffi is only 9 months old, and Im going to be inundated with Tortie madness soon enough :Crazy:
Right I have pics on my phone...just got to figure out what to do with them :evillaugh:
Bonnie had the same thought as me, when I first read your post about the vet visit I thought you were telling us she's 9 months PREGNANT! :shocked: :evillaugh:
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Oh :rofl:
pics will be later on as my kids wont give me any space :evillaugh:
Right...I need someone to talk me through the labour...step by step, from the start :-[
She has been doing funny things like hiding under my duvet...and I know my aunts cat had her kittens under the duvet :scared:
I just want to be prepaired and know what to do :)
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Ok Saffron is under my duvet, and scratching about. I dare not look :scared:
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Can you smell anything yet. It is hard to visualise as we don't know what she looks like :shify: :innocent:
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Ok Saffron is under my duvet, and scratching about. I dare not look :scared:
So this is why I go for adult cats..... :sick:
Id be fussing around and going here.....nooo not there its too hard to clean.......noooo not my bed....... wont this nice clean disposable cardboard box do etc etc :rofl: :rofl:
I hope everything goes well
love
Tab
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what do kittens smell like??? :evillaugh:
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Anything yet ?? x
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I thought she was due in approx 2 weeks? :shocked: Do they prepare for labour ie like Braxston Hicks etc? :-:
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CC a female with scratch about with a nesting instinct for last couple of weeks of pregnancy, I`m afraid I would move her to a box before birthing rather than after.
Smell there isnt anything obvious or unpleasant.
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Well she done that then moved into her house, so nothing so far, phew ;D Thanks for that Teresa I know nothing about cat birth, something to remember :) I think Im just going to pad her house out and also get a big box and put that beside it, hopefully she will know what its for.
Im not getting what you mean about the smell, what will I smell when she is in labour? Also when the waters break, what happens then? :-:
I think she will be fine wherever she chooses to have them, everything is already covered in cat :evillaugh:
Pics I know, Ive been having a hard week so thats at the bottom of my list, but will do I promise :)
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I think T said there is nothing really noticeable about the smell cc! ;)
Dont know how the cat will be but you must remember when the time does arrive take deep breaths lol! :Luv: :hug:
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CC think you are an overly anxious expectant mum bless you :hug:
Cats dont have waters that break like humans,occasionally a cat will pass a small fluid filled sac before the first kitten is born but not always.
First signs of labour is often a missed meal, there may be extra trips to the litter tray and when labour is under way you see the contractions in the form of ripples along her body.
Honestly the only thing you may smell is your own body sweat through stress :hug:
Usually there is very little mess,and most cats produce without problem,it is a good idea to have vets details to hand incase of emergency and maybe read up a little.
Not sure of statistics but I would say about 1 in every hundred pregnant ones i`ve dealt with have problems. So Good Luck and try not to worry :hug:
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I know, I know! Its like Im going into labour myself :scared: Ive never experienced an animal birth not even a human one, only my own and Im sure I wasnt even in the room then :rofl:
She is still eating, well, she even has her breakfast before Ollie and he used to get his first cos he's the sick one :innocent:
I have the vets number in my phone which Im glad of cos I will surely be on to them even if the kittens are well :evillaugh:
Im sure she will be fine, just me panicing ;)
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forgot to bump
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i edited first post instead of bumping
She has given birth to a kitten but its dead..i woke up with her under my legs and looked, i dont know how long its been there, there is no movement from it and its still inn the sac. she has been licking it but nothing
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I s the kitten still warm
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Ok, is the kitten definitely dead? If it has just been born you can get your finger in its mouth to clear out mucus then rub it vigorously while holding it upside down, this helps get yucky stuff out of their lungs and get them breathing (never done it myself but seen it on TV many times).
I'd also ring the vet as if there are more kittens she may be in distress and need help.
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Sadly that sometimes happens CC. If the kitten is still warm then it will be worth giving it a vigorous rub with a rough towel to see if you can get it to start breathing, but otherwise I am afraid there is nothing you can do. Make sure you keep a count of the kittens so you can be sure she expels all the afterbirth ... :hug:
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Sorry to hear this CC, is she still showing signs of being in labour? Do you have her in a room by herself, as she needs that.
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If its still warm clear its airways and then very gently rub round the heart area and very very gently blow into its mouth but only little tiny puffs as its only tiny compared to our breathe, also hold behind its neck and head for support and gently shake downwards to clear all passageways
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CC take a deep breath and keep yourself calm, you really need to get Saffron into a box to deliver, leave the dead baby with her until she either pushes it away or disposes of it ( do not be upset if mum eats it this is natures way). If by any remote chance kitten is still warm try to remove sac and gently rub kitten in a small towel with head pointing downwards for a couple of minutes just incase he can be revived. Its not uncommon for first one to be stillborn so dont panic. As long as mum is not unduly distressed you can leave ringing the vet until they open but if she has been contracting heavily and produced nothing ring vet now.
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no ITS DEAD, it doesnt look fully formed and the vet said 2 weeks, whats going on :-:
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Just to say hope all's well CC :hug:
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CC they never look fully formed in the sac, give mum cat some space, make yourself a cuppa and check on her in 10 minutes, hard to be calm when so much is at stake but you can do it, give vet a ring as soon as they open. :hug:
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She could have gone into labour early, or sometimes they can go into labour and just have one, and then stop completely until the time they should give birth.
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SHES COVERED IT OVER WITH A TOWEL :(
she is crying for me to be near her and follows me when i leave her, i think she is still trying to push...but its too early :scared:
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i broek the sac but its still the same, it doesnt look like its eyes or ears are formed, the arms and legs were tho :(
i feel sick, nearly passing out here. my oh is taking my son to school so i can stay with her
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Sorry no advice just :hug: :hug: to you CC and deep breaths and stay calm for kitties, you'll be fine xx
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Try to stay calm CC, just talk to her and gently stroke her to reassure her as she is probaly scared to :scared:i know when Cassie had hers she wanted me to stay with her
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OK then settle her in the box and sit stroking her and reassuring her, watch for the ripples down her flanks they will tell you if she is still having contractions, you know vets often get things wrong; as for body discretly removed him and place somewhere safe in case its a vet jobby because vet will know if baby is prem. Make sure you have towel, kitchen roll handy and round ended scissors just in case, you can do this CC :hug:
Kittens eyes are shut tight so look non existent, kittens ears flat on head at first, i think mum is likely full term and vet error
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another one dead :( they dont look ready to be born
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CC it can take mum a few minutes to clean them off and get them breathing, dont presume dead just yet, give mum chance to do her bit
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CC have you got a good sized cat carrier ? if so put clean bedding in it and confine mum and leave her to it; this may sound cruel to you but it really is best that mum is left to get on with things, this way she will also be bagged up ready to take to vet.
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When Cassie had her kittens i thought a couple of them were dead ,mum was busy cleaning one while another was being born so i gently helped with the sac and cleaned round the nose and mouth with a towel, took a few minutes but they started to breathe shortly afterwards then mum took over
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they look deformed, as in no bones in their arms, the latest one had one leg bigger than the other.
She has covered both over now and not bothering with them :(
she is sat here grooming herself, so i dont know whats going on if shes finished or what.
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They do look premiture, their bodies all like jelly with no bones :-:
this is awful and not what I expected :'(
I have moved her house next to the comp so i can be in 2 places at once.
She is wanting attention im not sure if shes finished
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CC i dont know what to say :( im so sorry your first litter is turning into a nightmare :hug:
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Vets will be open now, suggest you phone them and tell them you are bringing her straight down, also take all bodies with you.
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what will the vets do? i dont want to move her incase she has more :scared:
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Please ring the vet for advice. So sorry you are experiencing this.
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CC I`ve had many a kitten born in a carrier in the car and its never hurt mum or babies. Under the circumstances Saffron needs to be checked by a professional without delay. :hug:
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phoned vets, they told me to phone the bigger branch but its closed. i will give it till 9 then phone back
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http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2842568230065827514hTavDl
sorry for the grewsome pic but this is what the kittens looked like, premiture
The pic is horrid so if easily upset please dont look.
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yep they look premature to me. You need to get her to the vet at the earliest possible opportunity. So sorry you have to go through this ... :hug:
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cc I'm so sorry this has happened - I hope the vet finds its all over and there aren't any more left :hug:
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just getting ready to go to vets.
she has settled down but her belly still looks big
why would this of happened? :(
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Like with human pregnancy, I'm sure there are a million and one things that can go wrong, poor little mite. Good luck at the vets, hopefully it is all over :hug:
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it could be anything cc, she might not have been fed properly from before you got her - she might have an infection of some kind (that causes prematurity in humans) - its nothing you've done if she wasn't with you who knows what could be happening, my Star was left in labour for two days before finally being given over to the rspca for a c section - at least you are doing your best for her
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Im sure I seen another sac poking out about half an hour ago. just waiting for my mum to come over and mind the baby.
Ive just broke down, its alwul :'(
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i hope if there are any left they will wait till due!!! no more now please!
what will the vets do as they are premature, will they leave her or take them out?
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You have done all you can, just take care of yourself.
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Do you have a voucher for the spay? The vet may want to spay today.
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why would i have a voucher for the spay?
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P M sent I will pay £60 or perhaps a bit more as the little ones spay may cost more than a normal spay.
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Ela....This is why you are our very own Joan of Arc....THANK YOU! :Luv: :hug:
CC wont be long till gdad picks me up hun....I know its hard at the moment, I seen the pics what an awful experience for you to have to go through! :( :hug:
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So sorry that you first experience should end up like this, I hope all goes well at the vets. :hug:
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and it will be my last Angie, its awful to go through, must be very confusing for her :(
when I woke this morning i could see something black, thought it was her tail she was licking, turned out to be a kitten still in the sac :(
the second was born at about 8, i seen the legs coming out, she was crying, but it was dead.
obviously there was no chance for them as they are premature :'(
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Ela....This is why you are our very own Joan of Arc....
I am sure others would have done the same had they seen the plight.
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:hug: I'm so sorry CC, it's nothing to do with you these things will happen and I'm sure you will have done your very best xx
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CC sorry to hear about Saffron. What a terrible experience for both of you.
Any further news??
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P M sent I will pay £60 or perhaps a bit more as the little ones spay may cost more than a normal spay.
I'm guess D&C? - poor baby :( - Still at least she won't have to go through it again. Is there a risk of problems if she is producing milk but it isn't being used?
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she seems to have stoped now, and shes had something to eat.
when i was there last week the vets said her milk isnt ready yet, and now this :(
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I am guessing full spey with abortion of the remaining kits - they are unlikely to be alive or viable. If she commences lactation (unlikely) there are injections that will help to ease the drying-up process. It is not likely she will produce milk simply because these kits are clearly too early and so her body and hormones will not be prepared for the whole milk production thing. I am sure CC will update us when she gets back from the vets ...
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Anymore news CC, are you OK ?, PM me if you want to talk and I will give you my number x
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P M sent I will pay £60 or perhaps a bit more as the little ones spay may cost more than a normal spay.
Ela, you are such a sweetie x
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I know ;D
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Only just caught up with this - Im so sorry :'(
DO take care of yourself - you are going to be in shock ...
Youve done everything you possibly could :hug: :hug: :hug:
Take the rst of today very, very easy
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What a horrible experience for you :hug: I hope you are both ok.
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:hug: Stay strong CC. :hug:
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So sorry about this CC, how sad. Hope Saffron is ok - and you too :hug:
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I don't know how I missed this, just wanted to say how sorry I am that it turned out this way :hug: From the sounds of it there really is nothing you could have done and at least Saffron is being well looked after :hug:
RIP little ones, too good for this world xx
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So sorry to hear about Saffron and her poor kitties.
What a Godsend you took her on though CC; I hate to imagine what would have happened if she'd been abandoned or went to someone who didn't care.
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she seems to have stoped now, and shes had something to eat.
when i was there last week the vets said her milk isnt ready yet, and now this :(
well done CC, you did great dealing with this poor kitties and you :hug:
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hope you are ok cc
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Hope you and Saffron are okay CC - what an awful experience for both of you but it is a good thing that she has got you there to take care of her xxx
RIP little ones - the Angels wanted you for themselves xxx
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CC any news ?, we are all thinking of you, I keep checking the site for updates, love to you and Saffron xxxxx :hug:
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I wish I hadnt come back to this thread :(
They are all gone now, there were 3 :( we went over to other vets from the vets, and he gave her an injection to dispell the remaining kitten, about 5 mins later on the way home she gave birth to it- dead :'(
I just cant believe whats gone on, trying to think of why this has happened, such a shame :'(
Saffron seems to be doing better now, not as bad with my others :-: She has walked past Harry...this is not a normal occurance :-: Even been sunning out the back.
Im just glad she is ok really, I suppose it could of been alot worse :(
The image is going to haunt me forever :(
Suppose I will go and edit my signature :'(
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oh hunnie I am so sorry you have had such an awful time - I'm pleased that Saffron is ok and has you caring for her, take care of yourself :hug:
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I am so sorry, when will vet spay please? Please find out how much and send me by PM your name, address, Saffrons approx age and I will send you a full cost voucher.
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Oh CC, :hug: :hug:, I am glad you are OK and Saffron is OK, I am so sorry about the kittens, it must of been really awful for you to have to go through that, just try and relax with Saffron for the rest of the day and look after yourself xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I dont know Ela, I didnt ask, was not on my mind at the time!
I think Im having a break down :( I just cant believe it
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CC what a terrible day :hug: :hug: :hug: Just wish I could be there for you hun ...
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Aww CC :hug: There really was nothing you could have done, I know it's going to be hard but try and concentrate on Saffron and the rest of your gang. They need you too :hug:
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I think Im having a break down :( I just cant believe it
CC, you couldnt have done anymore :hug:
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I am so sorry, when will vet spay please? Please find out how much and send me by PM your name, address, Saffrons approx age and I will send you a full cost voucher.
Sweet of you Ela x
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Is there anyone about you can be with?
Sounds like you need something more than a virtual :hug: at the moment.
We are all here for you - talk away if it helps .....
Im so sorry you had to cope with this on your own. :'(
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Just let me know when you feel able. If Possible before 19th as I am going away then until 5 July.
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Oh CC, I've been reading this thread all morning but couldn't bring myself to post (sorry) I really hope your okay :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Oh CC I'm so so sorry you've had such an awful day. Here's a big :hug: for you and and another :hug: for Saffron.
RIP little kittens ... sadly it just wasn't meant to be. xxxx
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I'm so sorry, CC. I've been offline and have only just read this. I can't imagine how awful that was; hope Saffron is still alright. :hug: :hug:
RIP little ones.
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Hope you and Saffron are ok
:RIP: babies
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So sorry CC. Love and Purrs to you and Saffron x
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So sorry CC, a horrible experience for you :hug:
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Really sorry you had to experience this CC. :hug: Hope you're getting some cuddles, sounds like you need them.
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I'm so sorry CC. It must have been awful for you :hug: I'm glad Saffron is OK.
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I am so sorry to read about this cc, poor Saffron and you :hug: :hug: :hug:
Sounds like Saffron has got over it already, cats are amazing but I am sure its gonna take you some time to get over it all :hug:
RIP Saffrons Kittens
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So Sorry CC, don't know what to say :( :(
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CC so sorry for yours and Saffrons loss :hug: :(
She is at least safe with you and has someone who loves her for her not for being a baby machine
The Clan send their purrs to you :hug:
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:hug: :hug: CC.
RIP little ones. x
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Give dear Saffron some extra cuddles from us.
Sorry it turned out this way.
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Well what an awful mare day that was....Im glad its over to be honest! :(
Glad Saffi has gotten over the experience very quickly, she looks such a young cat and that thin I thought she had oriental in her! :shocked:
By the looks of her I really dont think she has been looked after very well through her pregnancy....Bless the little star...she is safe now cc, God knows what would of happened to her if you did'nt rescue her! I doubt very much they would of had her to the vets and with the shape of her she probably would'nt of made it! :scared:
Think on the positive side cc, she is alive and well and in your care.... :Luv: :hug: :hug:
RIP Little ones....your places on Rainbow Bridge have been prepared x
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I am sorry to hear your experience was such a bad one CC, but maybe you could use Saffy's story to highlight the importance of not letting your cat have just one litter? That way, at least something good will come of the heartache. I am surprised the vet gave her an injection and let her go home though, we had a similar situation and they did a spay. I would get her booked in to be spayed asap though, just in case she is at risk of an infection. RIP little ones
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CC, I'm so sorry. This thread has had me in tears :'( I'm just so glad that Saffron is with you rather than with the people she had before. Goodness what would have happened to her then. Take care CC xxx
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Im so sorry CC. What a dreadful day for you both. Im glad Saffron is ok and is now getting the love and help she deserves
RIP babies play well at the bridge
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love
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So sorry CC. :hug: :hug: :'(
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I am sorry to hear your experience was such a bad one CC, but maybe you could use Saffy's story to highlight the importance of not letting your cat have just one litter? That way, at least something good will come of the heartache. I am surprised the vet gave her an injection and let her go home though, we had a similar situation and they did a spay. I would get her booked in to be spayed asap though, just in case she is at risk of an infection. RIP little ones
Thats a really good thought Des, Im 44 and can honestly say that is one of my worst visions in my life! I would seriously suggest to anyone not to let there babes go through the possibility of something like this....very sad and scary all round! :scared: :'(
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I really am so sorry to hear this cc.
Take care.
:RIP: little ones.
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Saffi's not well, she's drooling, shivering, and got the 3rd eyelid :( going to vets in a bit
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Saffi's not well, she's drooling, shivering, and got the 3rd eyelid :( going to vets in a bit
Oh CC, this is not a good time for you, I am so hoping all will be OK, please keep us up to date, I will keep checking here as often as I can :hug: :hug: :hug:
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poor baby, hope you are both ok
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:hug: to you both, hoping all is ok xx
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Sorry CC, I've only just caught up with this thread :hug: :hug:
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She probably needs some anti-bs cc, I thought they would of gave her a shot yesterday while she was there! :shocked:
Positive vibes being sent your direction~~~~~~ :Luv: :hug: :hug:
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Do hope vet is able to help Saffi back to good health very quickly. What an awful experience CC. Hope you are coping :hug:
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Poor Saffie. as if that poor little soul hasnt been through enough - sending her love and healing vibes and wishes for a speedy recovery xxx
Big :hug: for you CC, you must be emotionally drained :hug:
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Fingers crossed shes ok? :hug:
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och jeez :(
for you both :hug: :hug: :hug:
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:hug: any news yet CC?
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i'm so sorry about the babies :'( RIP little ones
hope Saffron is ok :hug:
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CC, how did Saffys vet visit go? And, equally importantly, are you OK? :care:
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oh i missed this whole thing, just wanted to say i'm so sorry. well done cc - you and saffron did really well. hope all is ok now? :hug:
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Dont be worrying peeps, I spoke to cc when she was just out of the vets and Saffi has been given some jabs to help her out!
Im sure she will post when she is feeling less exhausted! :Luv: :hug:
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That's good news :) hope she is much better soon.
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Dont be worrying peeps, I spoke to cc when she was just out of the vets and Saffi has been given some jabs to help her out!
Im sure she will post when she is feeling less exhausted! :Luv: :hug:
If you get to see/hear from her before we do, give her a big :hug: from us all X
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Dont be worrying peeps, I spoke to cc when she was just out of the vets and Saffi has been given some jabs to help her out!
Im sure she will post when she is feeling less exhausted! :Luv: :hug:
If you get to see/hear from her before we do, give her a big :hug: from us all X
Will do! :Luv: :hug:
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Quick message CC - hope all's well and you're OK. :hug:
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Quick message CC - hope all's well and you're OK. :hug:
What she said, and more of these :hug: :hug: :hug: :)
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Thanks everyone :hug:
Saffi is doing fine, I even think she is coming a little more out of her shell, the agressive cat shell that is, my lot are sick of getting wacked by her :tired: One good thing, she sniffed Ollies tail while he was not looking the other night :evillaugh:
Oh her and Lyla are like the Tortie arch nemesis...they hate each other :tired:
She has been scratching her neck where she got the jabs...its now red and sore, why would she be doing this? :-:
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Hi cc, glad you are back and OK lots of :hug: for you.
Is the place on her neck where she is scratching where she had the adntibiotoics or was it her yearly jabs ?, I just know that my Mum's cat is allergic to the yearly jabs, not allergic as in they make her ill but she does scratch the site where they are done and it is nomally bald for a few months !, I think some cats have more sensitive skin than others, one of mine cant have frontline because it makes her itch ironically !
Have a nice relaxing weekend xxxxx
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Hiya CC, glad to hear things are settling down for Saffron :)
mm, the scratching does sound like a reaction to the jab if it's exactly where she's scratting, and if it's red and sore I'd probablly let the vet take a look :hug:
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she has something hanging out of her vagina, is crying and licking it. what the hell? it dont look like a kitten
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maybe a prolapse, definitely one for the vet again. poor Saffy
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I would get her to the vet as soon as possible, especially as she seem to be in distress
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yes am going to just waiting for my oh to get home!
I cant believe this, what could it be?
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its a :censored: kitten and she has given birth to it, and now shes going wild :scared:
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can i do anything at the vets? they sugested NOT to have an xray as the vet said he could only feel one left in there, surely this is his fault?
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Oh no. How upsetting for Saffy. (And you!) Is it stillborn? I'm presuming so, sadly - she doesn't seem to have much luck with this pregnancy. Keep us updated; I'm honestly not sure what a vet could do.
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i just dont understand what the hell is going on :Crazy:
emergancy spay i would think.
and my oh is not answering his phone ive phoned him about 20 times :censored: :censored: :censored:
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I would definitely have a moan at the vets if they advised you not to have the xray last time, at least if they had done that you all would have known how many babies were left.
I'm so sorry you are both going through this, but as many people have already said, Saffie is so lucky that you took her in CC otherwise it doesn't bear thinking about what would have happened to her. :Luv2:
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Have you spoke to the vets since this happened? you would like to think they would waive their fee if they are going to see her today. Im sorry I cant offer any advice but I hope this gets sorted soon thinking, of you and Saffey :hug:
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OMG! cc This is terrible, did you manage to get hold of Pete yet? :hug:
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Hoping things are soon sorted for poor Saffon and you CC :hug:
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Fingers crossed you can get help for her quickly, poor little mite, :(
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think CC is probably at the vets. :hug: :hug: Sending moral support hugs.
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Back from vets, the kitten was mummyfied (sp) and there is another one in there which is coming out now :(
I was at the vets with her on wed or thurs (cant remember) surely they should of noticed this then >:(
They have given her a hormone to get rid of the dead one and an anti b jab.
poor Saffi :(
This has tramatised me somewhat and Im sure I will never be wanting kittens again :'(
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So very sorry - hope it is all over this time :hug: :hug:
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How devastating for mum cat and yourself....Im sure that experience will of put you off (poor thing!) :(
I feel the vets have a lot to answer for cc, this is the 3rd time this week you have been to the vets with her and for this to go unnoticed is unbelievable! :scared:
Can I echo again...Thank heavens it was you that got her and not some greedy back street breeder! :Luv: :hug: :hug:
Give her a head rub from all of us....and yourself a massive hug! :ahh: :care: :grouphug:
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I dont know much about this sort of thing but I so want to kick the vets b :censored: >:(
Im so, so sorry for you and little Saffron. :'(
I know its not much, but Im thinking of you and sending these :hug: :hug: :hug:
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I hope the vets didn't see fit to charge you ridiculous amounts. I know that's not your main concern right at this moment, but I feel they dealt with this situation extremely shoddily.
Sending you and Saffy huge hugs.
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Sorry CC - the vet shouldn't charge you at all. The way I see it, you could have lost Saffy as well :(
:ahh: for Saffy and :hug: for you
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Oh CC, you and Saffron are really going through it at the moment :hug: :hug:
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Best wishes for saffy, i hope for you both this is the last of it :hug: can they not just fit her in for a spay to sort this for good?
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I hope Saffy is now feeling a little better, i have no faith in vets at the best of times and only use as a last resort, i hope this time she is sorted, it must be so distressing for you and for Saffy :( sending lots of healing vibes for her and :hug: :hug: :hug: for you :hug:
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I am shocked at your vets way of dealing with this, we had a similar situation last year, except Blossom's first kitten was alive followed by 2 dead, and they just did an emergency spay, they didn't see the point in delaying it, as she needed to be spayed anyway. I would be demanding a spay urgently, but would also be tempted to change vets.
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This is truely awful and thiose vets need reporting.
I hope Saffy is OK and also you :hug: :hug:
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and they just did an emergency spay, they didn't see the point in delaying it, as she needed to be spayed anyway
That is exactly what I expected on the day and why I sent CC my phone number so the vet could ring me for a voucher. I am just amazed that it did not happen.
I would be demanding a spay urgently
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I would agree 100%
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:hug: :hug: so sorry for you both. :hug: :hug:
I'm sure there will be some happy times ahead for you. :Luv2:
Mary
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I'm having great difficulty understanding why your vet does not just do an immediate c-section and neuter followed up by intensive ABs - what are they doing??? Are there any alternate vets you could consider CC? They just seem to be mucking about and dragging out what should be a fairly straightforward situation if they had handled it competently the first time around. I would be demanding to see a senior partner personally and wanting an explanation in full (and return of any expenditure that exceeded the cost of the sensible initial procedure. Poor you CC and Poor Saffron - hope you both feel much better soon :hug: :hug:
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I am amazed they didn't check to se if there was anything left behind. I was under the impression they would D&C
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Saffron is ok, for now :scared: She got rid of the last one and ate it :sick:
but yeah hopefully she will be back to normal soon and that was the end!
Im going to phone vets Monday and see what they can do, Im sure they can hurry it with what shes been through.
The vets I went too was another branch of my vets, the ones that told me Ollie should get pts :P but my normal vets are really good. Its not often I have to go to the other branch, its for emergencies
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Poor Saffron.
I hope you are both ok. :hug:
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I hope that this situation can soon be resolved so that Saffron can get back to full health,it must have been terrible for you both and i can imagine how you must be feeling so sending lots of healing vibes for Saffron and loads of hugs for you :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Thanks all :hug:
Yeah I hope this is the end now, I cant cope with any more :( I think because its reminding me of my miscarriages, whats the point in being given life only for it to be taken away- for no apparent reason :'(
I couldn't even pick the other one up on Saturday, I was mortified by the whole experiance- couldn't believe what I was seeing :Crazy:
Saffron seems to be doing ok, her tummy has also gone down somewhat. She's also going outside to sun herself :)
Thanks for your help everyone, its really helping me to try to get through this :Luv:
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Arnie, Gucci and Dandy also send healing purrs and facerubs for you both
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Hope things start to pick up this week CC :hug:
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Hope things start to pick up this week CC :hug:
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god what an awful thing to happen - I'm so sorry cc
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Been offline most of the weekend and just seen this, sorry CC what an awful thing for you to go through, hope you and Saffy are OK :hug:
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Oh CC what an awful thing to go though, :hug: :hug: for you and Saffron
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:thanks: everyone :hug:
Im having a dilemma here- Im thinking of re-homing Saffron :( She is just not getting along with my cats, at all! She keeps whacking poor Ollie and I have to remember he is sick too :shy:
Macey and Lyla just despise her and vice versa, they are going at it like hammer and tongs everytime they see each other :( She's not so bad with the boys but they are terrified of her :scared:
I just get the feeling they are all stressed and its not fair to put them through that, big Oliver has started spraying again :tired: so he's obviously scared :(
I really dont know what to do? I feel awful on Saffi cos she has been through so much and she is a wonderfull cat- loves humans in every way but I feel she would be better on her own- she obviously doesn't like other cats :(
Any suggestions? :(
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This is breaking my heart :'(
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Maybe give it a week or two and see what happens, the other probably will get used to her in time, but remember she has been to the vets quite a few times so they havent really had a chance to get used to her smell so to speak, mine all get on fine but if one of them has to go to the vets when they get home again all the others bash the living daylights out of them because they smell of vets.
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Daisy she has been her over 2 weeks and the fighting is still going on :( Lyla is the only one that will stand up for herself, so then Saffi is scared of her. Lyla spent sat night out in the back garden- she wouldnt come into the house, and I dont want them to feel pushed out :shy: Saffi has also left a big gash on Ted's nose from wacking him. They cant even walk past her without getting a whack! I feel like they are all walking on eggshells, and thats not how I want it to be. I have always said I wouldn't do anything to make them unhappy but Im doing just that- with all of them :-[
I will be really sad for Saffi to go but I feel she would be better on her own. She loves humans- the first day I got her she was all over me, but just hates cats and there are too many cats here to live an easy stress free life for her, and the rest of my babes and thats where my first thought have to lie :shy:
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Hi CC, I know that the last few weeks have been terribly trying for you, Saffron and the other cats. Given what she has been going through, and the number of times she has been to the vets, she will be terribly stressed and also will smell very peculiar to your other animals. Is there any way you can re-quarantine her from the others until her health improves and she is feeling better about herself. Once that happens she may just settle down and be more accommodating with your other animals.
I say this who spent the night before last with 40kg of dog trying to hide under my pillow because Smidgen had cabin fever in the caravan and was taking it out on everyone around him ...
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CC, did you do the gradual intros? Have you tried feliway diffusers? I know you've probably thought of all this, but when Asteroid first came here we hardly saw Sage. Not because Asteroid was aggressive but because she's so full on and Sage is a nervous cat. The feliway definitely helped.
I'm so sorry you're going through this.
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CC poor Saffi`s hormones are all over the place at present, she is also as yet unneutered. Perhaps if you could keep her seperate until she recovers from her spay and then try gradual introductions. It has been a very distressing time for you and I feel you should give yourself time to heal before making any decisions about Saffi`s long term future :hug:
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I agree with Teresa comments 100%
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I have had intros that have taken over 6 weeks, Lou Lou Flump always hates any other cats that come into the house, we get 'proper' cat fighting and wailing. Even now if she is having an off day she will bash the kittens over the head as they walk past her and the kittens have been here a year now (ok so they are not technically kittens anymore but I so 'want' them to still be kittens :Luv2:)
Like Teresa says you have had a bad time and Saffy is probably still really touchy from what has happened to her.
Hope you can cope honey :hug: :hug:
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Yeah Im going to see what she's like after her spay, its the least I can do :shy:
She has just ran Harry out of the garden, he was that scared he's jumped the fence and over the cat proofing in 2 seconds. If she dont settle down she's going to have to go :(
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What you could do is place her on CP's list of cats waiting to come in and then if it does not work out at least you or rather Saffron should be way up the list. If it works out I am sure CP would be more than happy to take her off the list again.
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What you could do is place her on CP's list of cats waiting to come in and then if it does not work out at least you or rather Saffron should be way up the list. If it works out I am sure CP would be more than happy to take her off the list again.
Thats a great idea! ;D
I reckon its defo her hormones and vet smells that are putting a spanner in the works at the mo! Here's hoping it will all settle down soon! :Luv: :hug:
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I think it's her hormones too. When's the spay CC? (Hopefully your usual vets have already booked her in!)
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She chased Harry out of the garden this morning and he aint been back since, so she is making my cats feel like there not allowed to be here, to be honest I have never seen Harry so scared- he is petrified of her.
Ted has a gash on his nose off her, my poor little Ollie has had a few whacks- for just being in the kitchen. And now big Oliver is spraying again- cos he is petrified too
Lyla and Macey are standing their ground and fighting with her, which is not nice to see. Saffi will whack and chase any of them if they get too close to her (if she feels they are, they could be a few meters away ) So now if any of them see her coming they are off in a shot, I dont want them to be scared in their own home- I said thats something I would never put them through.
At the end of the day an unhappy home is not a good home, even tho they still get everything they need I just cant put them through this stress
My cats are very easy going, which showed as they lived as a 6 without no problems. They even welcomed big Oliver cos he is chilled out and not trying to fight with them.
Maybe if Saffi was chilled out they could accept her, but her anger is way too much for any of us to take. She wants my attention and mine only! This is why I think she would be better off as an only cat :shy:
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I would try and confine her to one room cc, then I would get her spayed as the chances are she will come into season again pretty quickly! :scared:
Even if this does not work out, atleast if she is done then the awful happenings of late cannot be repeated! :Luv: :hug:
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My theroy on this could be that she is grumpy and lashing out at the other cats because she thinks she has kittens, I dont really know how to word it but I would think that her hormones are telling her to protect her kittens, it is just what nature does and she cant control it happening to her, when Gracie Dirty Face had her kittens she lashed out at all the other cats really badly, maybe Saffy is just suffering the symtoms even though she hasnt got the kittens ??, I am not an expert by any means but it sort of makes sense xxxx
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If she is kept in one room she goes mental pulling at carpets and everything. Its not the fact of the carpet cos its already wrecked- but the fact that she is stressed out. She likes to have a wander about and go out the back.
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CC, you can't make any decisions until she has been spayed - it is amazing how different they can be once htey dont have all their hormones racing, and more so with what she went through last week. I would still keep her in one room for short periods, as they do generally calm down after a while and it gives your cats some time out. Also, 2 weeks isn't long enough for a cat to adapt, and not when they have had the experience she has had.
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Yes Desley I know but from the start I have said if she dont get on well here, I would get her on a rehoming list, its nothing I haven't said before :shy:
To be honest I dont know where or what would be happening to her right now if I didnt get her. I took her out of the bad situation and thats all that mattered to me. I tried to make her feel at home but things arnt working out :( Her and Lyla were at it this morning, and now Lyla has the upper hand- she will attack at every opportunity- I dont want this going on.
And another reason which I didnt want to mention- she has also attacked my baby (Saffron has) baby was having a screaming fit and Saffi was jumping up at her face biting her, which made the situation worse :(
I just think it would be better for us all if she was found a new home, dont get me wrong I will miss the little one and am sad things have turned out this way :(
Im going to phone CP later on. :shy:
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I think we all come to a point where one more is too many - sounds like this one might be it cc but like you say she could be anywhere now and at least you are going to do the right thing for her, don't feel bad
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I agree 2 weeks isnt long to settle in and with all thats happened to the poor girl, but sometimes you know when certain temperaments arent going to work out well within a group, if thats what CC feels then she knows it better then we do, with us not seeing how the cats interact etc
Sorry it hasnt worked out well for you and saffron :hug:
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I can't offer any advise sweetie as Max is my first cat and I've never had to try and integrate any others into the household.
All I will say is that nobody knows the personalities of your current cats like you, and if you can't see things working out with Saffy, then you may well be right. I think we all have a gut feel about things, and sometimes you have to go with that :hug:
I know she may well calm down once she's been spayed, and if you could give her a change until then, that would be great. But if that's not going to work, then you have to make the decision :hug:
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CC I think its obvious from your posts how much you care about Saffron and sometimes we all know that it doesn't work out, but don't beat yourself up about it, you tried and you got Saffron though a tough time in her life. Only you can make the decision and you're make the right one for you all :hug: :hug:
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Yes cc, If CP could take her that would be fab as they will also get her spayed pronto!
I think as far as Saffi is concerned you have been there when she needed someone most, a lot has been shared in such a short space of time and for that I know she is thankful! ;)
You are the one living in the current situation, you are the one to make the final decision for which I for one respect! :Luv: :hug:
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Have you booked her into be spayed yet CC?
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Am taking her for a health check this week, although my vets are very busy- it took 4 weeks wait to get Lyla done :Crazy:
I think she may be better off going to the CP soon rather than later- Im going to phone them today :( I have been saying this for the last few days but its a hard thing to do :(
She chased Harry out of the garden yesterday about 9am, although when he kept coming back he wouldnt come in- just kept going away again. Then finaily about 11pm he came home hungry and exhausted- curled up on the sofa and went to sleep. I dont want him to be doing this :(
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give them a call cc, then you and your lot can get back to normal and she will be on her way to a new home (soon I hope) you've done more than enough for her to feel proud of yourself
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:thanks: Dawn, dont stop the heartache tho :'(
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god no I know that but honestly if you hadn't have taken her she may well be dead from blood posioning or something - sometimes they just don't fit into the crowd, but look at Debs and Mojo - he found a great home really quickly and is really happy
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Have just phoned and am waiting to hear back :(
I just feel Im letting her down with all she has been through- she would be great here if it wern't for my others :shy:
She's a lovely cat too, so Im sure she wont be long in getting homed, I hope :'(
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Dont feel bad cc, you have already done your part for her! :grouphug:
Good Luck for CP taking her in, I agree she wont be waiting long as she is a very pretty girl! :Luv: :hug:
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Just had to a call back, and they are trying to discourage me :shocked:
I explained the situation- saying she cant be kept in one room as she likes to wander, and that she dont really get on with other cats- to be told thats no good as there are other cats there (obviously :doh: ) and their PENS are quite small >:(
So no help there really >:( They have put her on the rehoming list but only because I said I would keep her here in the mean time :Crazy: They are going to avertise her today in a local paper and let me know if anything comes of it!
I mean what am I supposed to do? put her on a free ad and let the cycle start again! :censored:
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Although I would not necessarily agree with all you have been told, I will say that we would have asked any caller to keep the little one contained in a room which is usually larger than a pen anyway until we can bring a little one in. I expect your local branch is like us and asked to bring in numerous cats a day which is impossible. (calls to bring in 30 in one day I think is about the most. We have to deal with the emergencies first that is little ones who will be PTS unless we take in almost immediately and cats who have no one to care for them at all. Sadly far too many cats and not enough caring homes.
I know often when people ring me they must think I am sat here waiting for their call to offer me their cat and get quite nasty when I say I will place the little one one our list of cats waiting to come in, but if they would care to send me a photo and details I will in the meantime place the details on out gallery.
What is very important is that Saffron is spayed as soon as possible. If she comes into season again that is increasing her chances to get mammary cancer later in life even more.
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No Ela they were not even going to place her on the list untill I said I would keep her here untill a home is found, not that a space had come up. They really wernt that bothered >:(
I already know she needs spaying, Im having a few problems so that may be later rather than sooner, but soon enough!
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I explained the situation- saying she cant be kept in one room as she likes to wander, and that she dont really get on with other cats
I've been trying to stay away from this thread.
However, you have to realise that the best option is to put her in a room on her own and go in and spend some time with her.
So, she likes to wander - it does not really matter what she likes to do, we can all only do our best to our cats and foster cats. What best for Saffron is that she is spayed and her hormones allowed to settle down for a couple of weeks.
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Id suggest you call other rescues CC, cant see how they can advertise an unspayed cat for rehoming...
www.catchat.org (http://www.catchat.org) not sure what area your in so cant point the map there for you... must be some where else other than this one branch
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CC, you know your circumstances best, and only you know what your household is like at the moment. I can't imagine what you've had to deal with in this situation especially as you shared with us your own personal grief during this. Yes, it's well known that neutering/spaying can temper aggression, however, only you know what kind of bandwidth you have to cope with getting her spayed and helping her recover and keep her separated from others whilst handling your own household and children.
I appreciate the continued suggestions of spaying Saffron may be frustrating CC right now, especially as she have repeatedly stated she is aware that it needs doing. So I hope others take the above into account and allow CC to deal with that aspect of Saffron's care as best she can within her circumstances. She's doing her best.
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She's doing her best.
I think we all agree on that. :grouphug: CC, I know it's horrible having to confine a cat that likes to roam but it's the best thing on offer at the moment. It's a pain because you want Saffron to be 100% content now she's away from the horrible place she was before - but just think about how much her life HAS improved due to someone caring about her.
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Yes like none of my cats are neutered and although Ive been a member of purrs for over two years, Im still in the dark about cat knowledge :tired:
I like to allow my animals to do as they please- I call it letting them have a life!
I know what Saffie needs so there is no point in going over the facts- I already know >:(
There are other reasons which are making my decision- reasons which I wish not to post.
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There's nothing wrong with letting animals have independence - I'm all for that. Is it more or less stressful to keep Saffy confined? (To you, her and the other cats I mean. It's a genuine question and you already know I think you'll do what's right for all the cats.)
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Most of the day she will sit/ sleep on the top bunk in my kids room. She likes the door open tho and if she see's it closing she will jump down, she went crazy on sat when I tried to keep her in there to have the last kitten :(
Tonight she was sitting at the top of the stairs looking down :Luv2: She was sitting very close to Ted tonight, almost so they could sniff noses :shocked: but then attacked him when they were upstairs after :tired:
Lyla is a big problem too- she now knows Saffie is scared of her so will keep up the chase :tired: The only one she has had any interaction with at the moment is Ted tonight. She hates the rest I dont know if its because she's actually scared of them and thats why she attacks first?
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Possibly. The fight or flight mechanism is strong in cats and she's only a youngster. Everything that's happened to her must be very confusing. :hug:
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Cp are going to take Saffron and Oliver tomorrow :'(
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fantastic news cc - its the start of a new life for her and only because you took her on - well done you!
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Cp are going to take Saffron and Oliver tomorrow :'(
Oh honey poor you :hug: I am quite new here so dont know the full stories of everyone, I know all about Saffy, but what has happened with Oliver ? :Luv2:
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Daisy, Oliver is a former stray who sprays when he feels threatened with regards to his territory. He's a nice old bean, but would probably be less stressed in a home with fewer cats. I think CC has been great giving these cats the care they needed and helping them the way she has.
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The cp lady on the phone said it would take about 1-2 weeks for Saffie to find a home, but she said it takes longer for the oldies :( am I doing the right things here- regarding Oliver? he's 11 and quite settled here but I cant stand his spraying, my house stinks :sick:
I know Im doing right for Saffie- I just have to tell my heart that :'(
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Just topping up the hugs....this cant of been an easy decision to make but I know its for the best! :hug: :hug: :hug:
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CC, to me a cat that sprays is a cat that feels like it needs to define it's territory really obviously. In my honest opinion, I think Oliver needs to share his home with less cats. Although it might take him longer, someone will fall in love with him. I honestly think you're doing the right thing. :hug:
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Oh bless you, you have really had a tough time lately, hope things get a little easier for you :hug:
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Your doing the best thing by both of them CC its not fair to keep cats where they arent happy, and spraying is a good indication of that. Be proud of yourself for helping them in their hour of need, without you their futures wouldnt be as rosy :hug:
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They cant take Oliver, he's unhomeable due to his spraying, nobody wants a cat that sprays in their house- this is what I was told from the cp lady >:( Even tho I explained I think hes spraying as he needs to be in an only cat home :-:
I feel I have been talked down to by this lady like Im just another off loader, that hurts :(
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I thought they said they'd take both Oliver and Saffy? What's going on - have they changed their mind about him?
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i am sorry to hear they have changed their mind with Oliver, and you are probably right with his spraying, i have had similar fosters and once they have been rehomed they have been fine. IT might be worth talking to your vet about something to help his spraying if CP wont help.
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Or asking an alternate smaller rescue if they could put Oliver on their sites? I know you'll want to care for him as long as possible. :hug: :hug:
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CC if they are that thick to not understand spraying problems then your better off finding him a space somewhere else with people who know how to work around problems :hug:
If this branch are the only ones in your area do you have any idea who you spoke to in the first place?
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Yes it was the manager who I spoke to first of all- a foster phoned me yesterday and it was her that said to bring Oliver too- then had a phone call back from manager saying that about Oliver :(
I slept with Saffron last night and we had a lovely cuddle :Luv2:
I have to take her over by 1 today :(
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Cc, Saffy will never forget the kindness you did her. Seriously, don't think you've failed her in any way by letting her go to the CP. She'll have a new home in no time where there's less cats to bully!
As for Oliver, PM me your location and I'll ask other rescue workers I know if they can think of anywhere that fosters in that area who'd be willing to take Oliver on. :hug:
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:hug: :hug: to you again CC x x x
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She's still here- I phoned the foster yesterday saying I couldnt take her untill today could they phone me back if thats ok- and had no phone call :shocked:
And I dont want to take her now- she had a nose sniff with Ted and it was all very cool and calm 8)
Then theres the problem of Oliver, his spraying is getting worse, which means he's more stressed :( He did stop doing this but has started again now Saffie is here :(
Do you think I should try to rehome him through here? I know his spraying would stop if he lived with less cats, he's a very sociable cat and likes others- just too many here for him to take, and he cant live with Saffies agression.
He's 11 but you would think he was a kittne the way he plays lazer ;D Maybe even if he was found a home with an older cat that would be good for him, he gets on very well with my little Ollie :Luv2:
Just thought no matter how much Ive fallen in love with Saffie or even the little steps she is taking- nose sniffing with Ted, Harry is petrified of her and spends most of his time not at home now. So she still has to go :(
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CC, put the details for both of them on here. It won't hurt, and you'd more than likely feel happier knowing a Purrs cat
slave person has taken them on if anyone can. :hug:
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Have done Jack :)
Yes although I cant keep them here I would like to be able to keep up with them. Any new owners will not be disappointed!!!
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CC, if you are going to advertise them yourself, you need to ring the vet tomorrow and book her in for spaying so she is done before anyone shows an interest in her. I have always noticed a difference in females within a few days of being spayed, so you never know, she might then be fine with the other cats once her hormones have stopped raging round.
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Saffron has gone to the CP today :(
Im not to happy the way things worked out >:( I took her over- asked the foster to hold Saffie- in the box, while I went to the car to get her things- bed, food ect. On my return to the house the foster had taken Saffie inside and was coming out with an empty box, She didn't even give me time to say goodbye to her :( Im very annoyed over that >:( Then I was telling the foster what had been happening with Saffie- why she has a sore on her neck etc- all the while I was kept on the doorstep with the foster looking at me like would you leave already :shocked:
She didn't even ask which food she likes or why was the reason I took her there- I didn't get a chance to say she was calming down with the others so maybe in time she would be ok with other cats :Crazy:
So all in all Im very upset at the way this was handled- me stood outside on the doorstep- I expected to go in and tell her a bit about Saffron. And am missing the little girl already :'(
The foster even tried to refuse the bag of food for her- saying you have your own cats dont you, to which I said yes but I bought this for Saffron :Crazy:
And she kept calling her "the cat" Saffron has a blooming name, stupid woman!!!!
Im actually furious over this >:(
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I think that is very tactless of her and I would contact your branch or even head office to complain. Some people are clueless when it comes to dealing with other people. It sounds like she treated you like you were someone who was dumping their cat >:( - I would definitely speak to the branch again. Although people volunteer, they should still behave in a sensitive manner. Don't let it get to you CC :hug:
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She might have just thought it was better for everyone CC, you would be amazed at how many people can drop cats off they have had for a while with nothing and not want to say goodbye. Of course you will miss her, but she will soon be in a new home
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hope you are feeling a bit better cc
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CC, sadly I think it becomes harder for the fosterers to genuinely understand that the person handing a cat over might not want to. The more jaded they become the more hard faced towards "the public." (Sorry to any fosterers, just what I've observed with people I know.)
Despite calling Saffron "the cat" I'm sure she'll get the best care and a good home. I agree with Mark, though - I would call and complain about the womans attitude towards you. Hope you're OK. :care:
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CC :hug: :hug:
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CC, sadly I think it becomes harder for the fosterers to genuinely understand that the person handing a cat over might not want to. The more jaded they become the more hard faced towards "the public." (Sorry to any fosterers, just what I've observed with people I know.)
Despite calling Saffron "the cat" I'm sure she'll get the best care and a good home. I agree with Mark, though - I would call and complain about the womans attitude towards you. Hope you're OK. :care:
I think I can understand how they must feel! Just goes to show that some cases really are genuine! ;) :hug:
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Oh, dear!! Thats really not very good, is it :hug: :hug: :hug:
Years ago I used to foster and often people would turn up with their cats toys, favourite food, blankets etc. I always used to make notes .... I wanted each new "guest" to be as happy as possible and felt sorry for the people having to make the decision to re-home thir cat. I think so often there is an unknow "human" side to why a cat is re-homed. And a cuppa and a chat to ease the "goodbye" process doesnt take much ....
That said, we did sometimes meet the complete :censored:.s , too >:( I still thought it worth being polite to them, though (even if I said horrible things about them in private later :sneaky:)
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CC, sadly I think it becomes harder for the fosterers to genuinely understand that the person handing a cat over might not want to. The more jaded they become the more hard faced towards "the public." (Sorry to any fosterers, just what I've observed with people I know.)
And with that outlook they may not want strangers comming into the house :shy:
It doesnt help how your feeling but maybe in a few days it will make more sense :hug: